can;t believe he was playing small standing room only venues. i saw his final farewell tour at msg a few yrs ago.

purplemookiebut said:

can;t believe he was playing small standing room only venues. i saw his final farewell tour at msg a few yrs ago.

Phil made that choice to do so. He said he was tired of doing the big tours. Plus remember he had to have surgery on, I believe, his neck because a vertebrae had been damaged so he couldn't play drums or piano for a while.

First, I have to put this here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoLB_U0YPOg

Second: He was a great drummer.

I can tolerate this more than Rod Stewart's songbooks, and Barry Manilow. This might be for the people who liked Michael MacDonald's Motown covers or when Joan Osborne toured with the Motown session musicians.

I think the good thing about what Phil put out is that they weren't all hit songs.

First, I have to put this here:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...oLB_U0YPOg

Second: He was a great drummer.

I can tolerate this more than Rod Stewart's songbooks, and Barry Manilow. This might be for the people who liked Michael MacDonald's Motown covers or when Joan Osborne toured with the Motown session musicians.

I think the good thing about what Phil put out is that they weren't all hit songs.

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Some say he´s an excellent drummer though.

Under statement of the century, listen to some of the old Genesis albums and even his early solo ones, thats some awesome drumming. In the Air Tonight makes a good introduction.

Phil is the man. Accept it.

Timmy84 said:

thesexofit said:

Ok version. I like the fact it had been re-arranged.

But this version, of an obscure and overlooked Collins song, was a really nice find:-

Black people in the US seem to respect Phil more then white people in the UK LOL.

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I think it's because most of his music is R&B-oriented or at least R&B influenced that we see right through it from his vocals to the musical arrangements.

You can't tell me "I Missed Again" wouldn't have been recorded by Marvin or Smokey or Stevie or the Spinners or Earth, Wind & Fire or anyone like that. I didn't mind his version of the Supremes hit either.

I think of his albums, Face Value and Hello I Must Be Going! are up there with some of the best IMHO.

"One more night" sounds like it could of been an Earth, wind and fire song to me. Maybe their would be more harmonies, but I could just about picture it.

His drum programming is just out of this world.

thesexofit said:

Glad he is back but a shame its a damn covers album. I hate covers albums.

I didn't mind "Can't hurry love", and he rearranged "Groovy kind of love" that you would barely recognize the original.

It's a great song whomever does it, but I dug his take of this though:-

Produced by Babyface.

I know he is a fan of Phil. In general, he always got more respect in the US then his native UK. British music press despise him.

As rotton as they are, he must be a COOL guy to be disliked by them. How come, though?

Harlepolis said:

thesexofit said:

Glad he is back but a shame its a damn covers album. I hate covers albums.

I didn't mind "Can't hurry love", and he rearranged "Groovy kind of love" that you would barely recognize the original.

It's a great song whomever does it, but I dug his take of this though:-

Produced by Babyface.

I know he is a fan of Phil. In general, he always got more respect in the US then his native UK. British music press despise him.

As rotton as they are, he must be a COOL guy to be disliked by them. How come, though?

No idea really? I think because he was everywhere from around the rarly 80's onwards. Particually that "live aid" thing where he performed in both the UK and US the same day (aswell as singing with Sting, drumming for Eric Clapton and drumming infamously for Led Zeppelin).

That and his reputation for being a nice guy which must be boring to the tabloids over here.

Iam glad the US respects him though.

thesexofit said:

Harlepolis said:

As rotton as they are, he must be a COOL guy to be disliked by them. How come, though?

No idea really? I think because he was everywhere from around the rarly 80's onwards. Particually that "live aid" thing where he performed in both the UK and US the same day (aswell as singing with Sting, drumming for Eric Clapton and drumming infamously for Led Zeppelin).

That and his reputation for being a nice guy which must be boring to the tabloids over here.

Iam glad the US respects him though.

The UK never treated their artists with the same respect we give them. Least until they get older, THEN they wanna be giving out awards to them lol

Timmy84 said:

thesexofit said:

No idea really? I think because he was everywhere from around the rarly 80's onwards. Particually that "live aid" thing where he performed in both the UK and US the same day (aswell as singing with Sting, drumming for Eric Clapton and drumming infamously for Led Zeppelin).

That and his reputation for being a nice guy which must be boring to the tabloids over here.

Iam glad the US respects him though.

The UK never treated their artists with the same respect we give them. Least until they get older, THEN they wanna be giving out awards to them lol

Except how you guys totally blanked the Bee Gee's for many years LOL. UK also never gave them much respect until the mid 90's and their "still waters" album, but at least they remained alot more popular here. US finally caught up in the mid 90's, when they (and the UK) were giving those lifetime achievment type awards to them.

But you guys did like Wang Chung, who never had any big hits in their native UK.

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thesexofit said:

Timmy84 said:

The UK never treated their artists with the same respect we give them. Least until they get older, THEN they wanna be giving out awards to them lol

Except how you guys totally blanked the Bee Gee's for many years LOL. UK also never gave them much respect until the mid 90's and their "still waters" album, but at least they remained alot more popular here. US finally caught up in the mid 90's, when they (and the UK) were giving those lifetime achievment type awards to them.

But you guys did like Wang Chung, who never had any big hits in their native UK.

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The Bee Gees were definitely dissed here in the U.S. - for stupid reasons IMHO.

Timmy84 said:

thesexofit said:

No idea really? I think because he was everywhere from around the rarly 80's onwards. Particually that "live aid" thing where he performed in both the UK and US the same day (aswell as singing with Sting, drumming for Eric Clapton and drumming infamously for Led Zeppelin).

That and his reputation for being a nice guy which must be boring to the tabloids over here.

Iam glad the US respects him though.

The UK never treated their artists with the same respect we give them. Least until they get older, THEN they wanna be giving out awards to them lol

Yeah, they put out sarcastic music magazines like Smash Hits back in the 1980's. Unfortunately, this type of journalism spread to everywhere.

MickyDolenz said:

Timmy84 said:

The UK never treated their artists with the same respect we give them. Least until they get older, THEN they wanna be giving out awards to them lol

Yeah, they put out sarcastic music magazines like Smash Hits back in the 1980's. Unfortunately, this type of journalism spread to everywhere.

I think Neil Tennant (Pet shop boys) wrote for them before he was famous?

Anyway Phil should do an album of new songs. I do have "testify" and "dance into the light" but I can't bring myself round to play them as I know they will mainly be awful LOL.

Do love "you'll be in my heart" though. Yep I said it

Heres the poignant video to "do you remember?", which was not released in the UK at the time (a live version which got nowhere was released later apparantly)....

...Yes it does sound like a number of his other songs, but I still dig it and really like cult AOR hero Stephen Bishops backing vox on the track. Shame the UK never plays the song on radio or video stations but there you go...

Timmy84 said:

thesexofit said:

Except how you guys totally blanked the Bee Gee's for many years LOL. UK also never gave them much respect until the mid 90's and their "still waters" album, but at least they remained alot more popular here. US finally caught up in the mid 90's, when they (and the UK) were giving those lifetime achievment type awards to them.

But you guys did like Wang Chung, who never had any big hits in their native UK.

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The Bee Gees were definitely dissed here in the U.S. - for stupid reasons IMHO.

Look at UK response to Elton John, this was where he had tons of trouble with the media from day one, he sued tons of newspapers and won in the UK, also, he didnt acheive a UK number one single till "Sacrifice" in 1989, 15 plus years after he top the charts in the usa, on 6 different occasions.

Kind of the opposite of the cat that didn't know that "You Can't Hurry Love" was a Supremes song, I didn't know that this song

was a Phil Collins song.

I had the Kelis album for years but it was just recently when I read the wikipedia entry that I learned it was a Phil Collins song.

For a long time I thought that "Two Hearts" was a cover of an old Motown song. Considering that Lamont Dozier co-wrote the song I don't feel too stupid.

rialb said:

For a long time I thought that "Two Hearts" was a cover of an old Motown song. Considering that Lamont Dozier co-wrote the song I don't feel too stupid.

I think that was written for a movie Phil acted in, don't remember the name of it though. There was another song from around that time called Groovy Kind Of Love, which was a cover, but not from Motown.

This is another good one that I recently found was him actually singing...from Quincy Jones' Q's Jook Joint:

Dreamer2 said:

MickyDolenz said:

I heard earlier this year that Phil was going to release an album of Motown covers, but didn't know it had been released. Both Phil & Peter Gabriel released cover albums this year.

It's the worst record since Britney Spears last record .... Phil is a limited singer with limited talent and should not cover motown records ...rubbish:-(

aww I even got excited there for a second. oh.well.