I know people were like why did raz take back what he said the first time they might have threatened him I’m sorry yes raz has a album coming out but that doesn't mean anything for a guy to get publicity by just randomly say I was raped I don't believe that. Raz is probably crazy but we just on the outside we don't know what really went down something happen for there still to be bad blood between everyone. When I was younger I thought nothing of those pictures of immature in their underwear looking back something was not right.

babybugz said:

I know people were like why did raz take back what he said the first time they might have threatened him I’m sorry yes raz has a album coming out but that doesn't mean anything for a guy to get publicity by just randomly say I was raped I don't believe that. Raz is probably crazy but we just on the outside we don't know what really went down something happen for there still to be bad blood between everyone. When I was younger I thought nothing of those pictures of immature in their underwear looking back something was not right.

Well I always believed something was up with Chris and all of them. Not surprised it's the way it is.

babybugz said:

I know people were like why did raz take back what he said the first time they might have threatened him I’m sorry yes raz has a album coming out but that doesn't mean anything for a guy to get publicity by just randomly say I was raped I don't believe that. Raz is probably crazy but we just on the outside we don't know what really went down something happen for there still to be bad blood between everyone. When I was younger I thought nothing of those pictures of immature in their underwear looking back something was not right.

Oh and we can't forget these pictures either....

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silverchild said:

babybugz said:

I know people were like why did raz take back what he said the first time they might have threatened him I’m sorry yes raz has a album coming out but that doesn't mean anything for a guy to get publicity by just randomly say I was raped I don't believe that. Raz is probably crazy but we just on the outside we don't know what really went down something happen for there still to be bad blood between everyone. When I was younger I thought nothing of those pictures of immature in their underwear looking back something was not right.

Oh and we can't forget these pictures either....

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I remember seeing old videos of Immature when they were no older than 11-13 and always showing their chest and being half naked...that really bothers me, why no one had a problem with that back then is beyond me.

silverchild said:

babybugz said:

I know people were like why did raz take back what he said the first time they might have threatened him I’m sorry yes raz has a album coming out but that doesn't mean anything for a guy to get publicity by just randomly say I was raped I don't believe that. Raz is probably crazy but we just on the outside we don't know what really went down something happen for there still to be bad blood between everyone. When I was younger I thought nothing of those pictures of immature in their underwear looking back something was not right.

Oh and we can't forget these pictures either....

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babybugz said:

I know people were like why did raz take back what he said the first time they might have threatened him I’m sorry yes raz has a album coming out but that doesn't mean anything for a guy to get publicity by just randomly say I was raped I don't believe that. Raz is probably crazy but we just on the outside we don't know what really went down something happen for there still to be bad blood between everyone. When I was younger I thought nothing of those pictures of immature in their underwear looking back something was not right.

I agree...soo many people here are expecting the rational but when someone has had their life taken away from them (if the allegations are true) then you just can't.

NastradumasKid said:

silverchild said:

Oh and we can't forget these pictures either....

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I remember seeing old videos of Immature when they were no older than 11-13 and always showing their chest and being half naked...that really bothers me, why no one had a problem with that back then is beyond me.

Must watch! Don Glover is so good in this.

Jboogiee said:

Vibe magazine article on Chris Stokes. http://community.livejour...14287.html

Whole article is interesting and the pics Now that I've gotten more info I think Raz and the rest of them were molested-wow why have no charges been brought against Chris Stokes? and someone really needs to get Raz some professional help.

The B2K thing is a fucking tragedy.

nursev said:

Jboogiee said:

Vibe magazine article on Chris Stokes. http://community.livejour...14287.html

Whole article is interesting and the pics Now that I've gotten more info I think Raz and the rest of them were molested-wow why have no charges been brought against Chris Stokes? and someone really needs to get Raz some professional help.

Every member of B2K has stated that they no longer associate with Demario due to him bringing on all these claims. He needs all the attention he can get right now. Not to mention he's a deadbeat father that doesn't even visit his own son. Him and his brother Ricky sent his baby momma NO MORE THAN $50 only to have Ricky call her and cuss her out for not thanking them for that chump change. He needs to get his life together now.

ViintageJunkiie said:

nursev said:

Whole article is interesting and the pics Now that I've gotten more info I think Raz and the rest of them were molested-wow why have no charges been brought against Chris Stokes? and someone really needs to get Raz some professional help.

Every member of B2K has stated that they no longer associate with Demario due to him bringing on all these claims. He needs all the attention he can get right now. Not to mention he's a deadbeat father that doesn't even visit his own son. Him and his brother Ricky sent his baby momma NO MORE THAN $50 only to have Ricky call her and cuss her out for not thanking them for that chump change. He needs to get his life together now.

Something about both Raz and Ricky disturbs me. Just as much as Chris Stokes disturbs me.

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Timmy84 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

Every member of B2K has stated that they no longer associate with Demario due to him bringing on all these claims. He needs all the attention he can get right now. Not to mention he's a deadbeat father that doesn't even visit his own son. Him and his brother Ricky sent his baby momma NO MORE THAN $50 only to have Ricky call her and cuss her out for not thanking them for that chump change. He needs to get his life together now.

Something about both Raz and Ricky disturbs me. Just as much as Chris Stokes disturbs me.

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Ricky used to irk me so bad back in the day. I got over it, but then once MJ died, he would swear up and down that he was at the Encino compound with the family. He even said "yeah im in the car with Jermaine and Randy. On the way to MJ's tribute at the Staples Center" that negro wasn't even there! I'm like "dude how u in the car with the family and you tweeting from a computer?" he said "oh, i have a wireless card on my laptop"

NEGRO PLEASE!

Timmy84 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

Every member of B2K has stated that they no longer associate with Demario due to him bringing on all these claims. He needs all the attention he can get right now. Not to mention he's a deadbeat father that doesn't even visit his own son. Him and his brother Ricky sent his baby momma NO MORE THAN $50 only to have Ricky call her and cuss her out for not thanking them for that chump change. He needs to get his life together now.

Something about both Raz and Ricky disturbs me. Just as much as Chris Stokes disturbs me.

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I concur Timmy!

ViintageJunkiie said:

Timmy84 said:

Something about both Raz and Ricky disturbs me. Just as much as Chris Stokes disturbs me.

[Edited 10/16/10 1:49am]

Ricky used to irk me so bad back in the day. I got over it, but then once MJ died, he would swear up and down that he was at the Encino compound with the family. He even said "yeah im in the car with Jermaine and Randy. On the way to MJ's tribute at the Staples Center" that negro wasn't even there! I'm like "dude how u in the car with the family and you tweeting from a computer?" he said "oh, i have a wireless card on my laptop"

NEGRO PLEASE!

Ew he said that? What a fucking bitch.

he wouldn't even let them eat chicken so they wouldn't grow taller

this is abuse!

wait, didn't 3LW break up because one girl threw chicken at the other girl? even girl groups get chicken....

Imma pray for Raz tho....might even fry him up a wing or 2

Timmy84 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

Ricky used to irk me so bad back in the day. I got over it, but then once MJ died, he would swear up and down that he was at the Encino compound with the family. He even said "yeah im in the car with Jermaine and Randy. On the way to MJ's tribute at the Staples Center" that negro wasn't even there! I'm like "dude how u in the car with the family and you tweeting from a computer?" he said "oh, i have a wireless card on my laptop"

NEGRO PLEASE!

Ew he said that? What a fucking bitch.

tell me about it!

All I see is pain here. Ottie, I agree with you, sis. There is much to heal from there -- that's really clear.

Not to mention, after Demario made these allegations about being molested and being broke a couple of years ago, Chris Stokes gave him some money so he would stop complaining. Next, Demario retracts his allegations and is seen having dinner with Chris and Jerome

All this boy wants is money. Once his money runs dry, he turns around and pulls another stunt

ViintageJunkiie said:

Not to mention, after Demario made these allegations about being molested and being broke a couple of years ago, Chris Stokes gave him some money so he would stop complaining. Next, Demario retracts his allegations and is seen having dinner with Chris and Jerome

All this boy wants is money. Once his money runs dry, he turns around and pulls another stunt

Yeah. And no one is even mentioning the fact that Raz, Ricky and Chris are actually real-life cousins.

Timmy84 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

Not to mention, after Demario made these allegations about being molested and being broke a couple of years ago, Chris Stokes gave him some money so he would stop complaining. Next, Demario retracts his allegations and is seen having dinner with Chris and Jerome

All this boy wants is money. Once his money runs dry, he turns around and pulls another stunt

Yeah. And no one is even mentioning the fact that Raz, Ricky and Chris are actually real-life cousins.

Exactly .. I'm over the whole situation .. He saddens me

Timmy84 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

Not to mention, after Demario made these allegations about being molested and being broke a couple of years ago, Chris Stokes gave him some money so he would stop complaining. Next, Demario retracts his allegations and is seen having dinner with Chris and Jerome

All this boy wants is money. Once his money runs dry, he turns around and pulls another stunt

Yeah. And no one is even mentioning the fact that Raz, Ricky and Chris are actually real-life cousins.

You've never had family members molest others? I've seen it and it doesn't seem odd that they would try to heal the wounds. Nor do I find it odd that one would try to solve his problems by buying himself out of his problems. And finally, I am surprised some of you all are shocked by Raz' action. If the boy was molested, I don't see his behavior as being odd. I see it as someone desperately trying to survive. Is he being rationale? Well, would you if you had your life ruined as a child. Oprah had a show with child molesters and one of them shared, " the day I molested the lil girl was the day I killed her." Not literally but that is how hard something like this can be on a young mind.

Some of you all should be ashamed for your lack of empathy.

sosgemini said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah. And no one is even mentioning the fact that Raz, Ricky and Chris are actually real-life cousins.

You've never had family members molest others? I've seen it and it doesn't seem odd that they would try to heal the wounds. Nor do I find it odd that one would try to solve his problems by buying himself out of his problems. And finally, I am surprised some of you all are shocked by Raz' action. If the boy was molested, I don't see his behavior as being odd. I see it as someone desperately trying to survive. Is he being rationale? Well, would you if you had your life ruined as a child. Oprah had a show with child molesters and one of them shared, " the day I molested the lil girl was the day I killed her." Not literally but that is how hard something like this can be on a young mind.

Some of you all should be ashamed for your lack of empathy.

No. And I'm not saying it didn't happen either.

You know, let's just cut this back and forth bullshit... let's put it like this.

OK, listen, I see things 50/50 in this shit.

Now no doubt people will agree that Chris Stokes is a dirty, rotten, nasty motherfucker and people will all agree everyone he got involved were fucked up in one way or another.

On the other hand, Raz and Ricky were already from a fucked-up home. And I guess I see things differently than some who either automatically give you sympathy for a molestation story and those who will ridicule him for doing this for stunts.

And it's like this, if I was fucked up by someone I trusted, I guess I'm a risk taker because I'd put it all on the line. Fuck my career. So because I say you touched my privates, you think money and death threats on me and my family gonna stop me? Last thing I would do is go out to see dude that molested me, hug me and all that shit. Talking about he scared. Shit all that do get molested are scared. Those who get abused they do run back to the same motherfucker family or not.

Thing is I see both sides to the story and I'm not team nobody. I'm team common sense. I would just cut down to the bottom line on this. We can be a victim for a long time but as long as you don't continue to support it people will make their own decisions on the matter.

No doubt Ricky and Raz are fucked up but so is Chris Stokes. They're all fucked up.

So how come when someone agrees with someone, we have no compassion.

Never that n***a, I have compassion, I just have disdain for someone who was allegedly molested try to make nice and recant everything. Now he's acting the way he is without getting some personal help. I mean, are HIS people really looking out for him?

I mean, really? In fact Chris should get some help for his nasty ass. Pedophile denial is a motherfucker. It'll come back to haunt him one way or another like Lou Pearlman. Believe that.

And on that note, I'm through with this post.

Now I'm not here for arguments, just trying to make SOME SENSE in this fucking mess.

We ain't live their lives so of course we don't know their situations, that ain't a lie, so we can agree on that.

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ViintageJunkiie said:

Timmy84 said:

Something about both Raz and Ricky disturbs me. Just as much as Chris Stokes disturbs me.

[Edited 10/16/10 1:49am]

Ricky used to irk me so bad back in the day. I got over it, but then once MJ died, he would swear up and down that he was at the Encino compound with the family. He even said "yeah im in the car with Jermaine and Randy. On the way to MJ's tribute at the Staples Center" that negro wasn't even there! I'm like "dude how u in the car with the family and you tweeting from a computer?" he said "oh, i have a wireless card on my laptop"

NEGRO PLEASE!

Lawd Ricky is a liar...I can go on for days about this dude but I'm just not..honestly Raz, Ricky and their father is a mess.

^^^I'd like to take back that ashamed statement. If you haven't first hand dealt with survivors of molestation, I can see how his actions could be seen as off....but, there are many out there like him and it's sad to see.

sosgemini said:

^^^I'd like to take back that ashamed statement. If you haven't first hand dealt with survivors of molestation, I can see how his actions could be seen as off....but, there are many out there like him and it's sad to see.

Look, man I understand, but shit... from what I read, someone was willing to back him on what he said. But he recanted to save his goddamn career. That's fucking sad. Like I said Chris is a nasty motherfucker.

Timmy84 said:

sosgemini said:

^^^I'd like to take back that ashamed statement. If you haven't first hand dealt with survivors of molestation, I can see how his actions could be seen as off....but, there are many out there like him and it's sad to see.

Look, man I understand, but shit... from what I read, someone was willing to back him on what he said. But he recanted to save his goddamn career. That's fucking sad. Like I said Chris is a nasty motherfucker.

We all gotta eat. Plus, don't you think he wants all this to go away? Someone promises a boat load of money to make your troubles go away? Ten days later, you realize you've failed cause money doesn't solve sh*t.

I just don't think these problems are as simply solved as many are expecting them. What these people are going through in public is complicated. You got money, incest, child abuse, fame, drugs and the media. Lilo, Courtney Love, Ana Nicole...wash, spin.

sosgemini said:

Timmy84 said:

Look, man I understand, but shit... from what I read, someone was willing to back him on what he said. But he recanted to save his goddamn career. That's fucking sad. Like I said Chris is a nasty motherfucker.

We all gotta eat. Plus, don't you think he wants all this to go away? Someone promises a boat load of money to make your troubles go away? Ten days later, you realize you've failed cause money doesn't solve sh*t.

I just don't think these problems are as simply solved as many are expecting them. What these people are going through in public is complicated. You got money, incest, child abuse, fame, drugs and the media. Lilo, Courtney Love, Ana Nicole...wash, spin.

I wouldn't think it's a fast process anyway. Look at the Catholic church shit. That took like 20 years.

babybugz said:

Just Sad. And i'm not surprise if raz went back to chris and them and was buddy buddy again they all related this is not surprising. If you haven't experience something like that you can't say much I know no one is in line to see a reunion but not gonna lie I would see that again *DEAD*

Fizz and Boog hate Raz and Omarion, it ain't happening.