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"She's Got Papers On Me" by Richard "Dimples" Fields

This was a nice slow jam back in the summer of 1981. My favorite part is at the end when Betty Wright is going off on his ass....

You want me out, you gonna have to BUY me out.

Anybody into this one?

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Reply #1 posted 09/02/10 8:06am

uPtoWnNY

Yep, I have this on 7" 45.

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Reply #2 posted 09/02/10 8:09am

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Yeah my Mom's use to play the shyt out of this.... I didn't know it was Betty at the end.. I thought it was Barbara Mason

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Reply #3 posted 09/02/10 8:21am

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"There's Nothing That The Proper Attitude Won't Render Funkable!"

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Reply #4 posted 09/02/10 8:35am

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Aside from "Papers" and a couple of minor singles , Fields never achieved the type of success I thought he deserved. He died ten years ago from a massive stroke.

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Reply #5 posted 09/02/10 8:49am

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Identity said:

Aside from "Papers" and a couple of minor singles , Fields never achieved the type of success I thought he deserved. He died ten years ago from a massive stroke.

I feel the same way. His songs always had a little story to tell, and he could make you feel them. But I remember he was all over KJLH radio in Los Angeles in the very early 80's.

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Reply #6 posted 09/02/10 9:14am

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"Well Well Well Well, What Have We Here . . ." music

this track takes me back smile

Life has a way of making you live it. . . .
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Reply #7 posted 09/02/10 10:22am

Timmy84

That track was hilarious. Betty Wright's rap had me in stitches too. falloff

Barbara Mason had a "comeback" at Betty with "She's Got the Papers, But I Got the Man" but that was almost like a "ho" anthem.

Then her "man" TURNED on her and said "I rather fuck Billy than you" in "Another Man". falloff She tried to turn it around saying "the man we thought he was, was not what he was at all" but that's why neither of them checked on him. Hahaha

If I'm not mistaken, somebody did an answer song to "Another Man" too. evillol

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Reply #8 posted 09/02/10 1:31pm

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uPtoWnNY said:

Yep, I have this on 7" 45.

I have the 45 too but the damn thing started fading out and ending during Betty Wright talking her shit. A friend of mine made me a CD copy of the album version though.

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Reply #9 posted 09/02/10 1:44pm

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Timmy84 said:

That track was hilarious. Betty Wright's rap had me in stitches too. falloff

Barbara Mason had a "comeback" at Betty with "She's Got the Papers, But I Got the Man" but that was almost like a "ho" anthem.

Then her "man" TURNED on her and said "I rather fuck Billy than you" in "Another Man". falloff She tried to turn it around saying "the man we thought he was, was not what he was at all" but that's why neither of them checked on him. Hahaha

If I'm not mistaken, somebody did an answer song to "Another Man" too. evillol

After you left Prelude, you signed with WMOT (We Men Of Talent) Records, home of groups like Fat Larry's Band, Philly Cream, Captain Sky, Heaven & Earth, Count Coolout, Frankie "Double Dutch" Smith and many others. There you released an album called "A Piece Of My Life", produced by Butch Ingram in 1980. How did you meet him?

-I met him through Alan Rubens, the CEO of WMOT. Butch and myself did a good album, but it didn't too that well because the company didn't promote it. That was the problem, not that the product wasn't good. He and I produced that album together. I did get one R&B hit from that album called "She's Got The Papers (But I Got The Man)" in 1981. There were some other songs on that album that maybe did a little something. I remember that one of the songs, "On And Off", was quite popular in London. But basically it was not a big album and I did not get a lot of recognition until 1984 when we did "Another Man".


Barbara Mason (1978)"She's Got The Papers (But I Got The Man)" was one song in a whole series of songs that were connected to each other like sequels and it was the tale of adultery, told by those involved; The wife, the cheating man and the other woman, each gave their versions of how they looked at the affair, and who the man really belonged to. You did "She's Got The Papers (But I Got The Man), "Richard "Dimples" Fields had "She's Got Papers On Me" and the same year, 1981, New Orleans-vocalist Jean "Mr. Big Stuff" Knight and her singing partner Premium also cut one, called "You've Got The Papers (But I Got The Man)". How on earth did this start?

-We called those "situation songs" and it was a continuation of Shirley Brown's "Woman To Woman". But Richard "Dimples" Fields started it. At the end of his record, Betty Wright comes in and answers him. His record was "She's Got Papers On Me" and I wrote the answer to him which was "She's Got The Papers (But I Got The Man)". Then I did my own sequels, and I incorporated it into "Another Man". One day we're gonna put out like a whole story. We really had a thing going there. If we all could have performed together it would probably have been a sell out (laughs). In fact, Betty Wright, myself, Richard and Shirley Brown, were asked to do it at the time.

Barbara Mason Interview (Part 4)

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Reply #10 posted 09/02/10 2:26pm

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My drunk Uncle Teddy used to sing this at the top of his lungs when he and my aunt were going through divorce. Let's just say Thanksgiving was REAL colorful one year.

"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
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Reply #11 posted 09/02/10 2:27pm

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feeling ill ill feeling ill ill feeling ill sick ill feeling ill ill feeling ill ill

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Reply #12 posted 09/02/10 2:28pm

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scriptgirl said:

My drunk Uncle Teddy used to sing this at the top of his lungs when he and my aunt were going through divorce. Let's just say Thanksgiving was REAL colorful one year.

lol

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But my drunk uncle Teddy was a riot. He was the same man that my older cousins said took one look at Debarge during Motown 25 and said, "I didn't know Motown was hiring Puerto Ricans" and then he passed out from having consumed 3 bottles of Wild Turkey in one hour.

"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
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Reply #14 posted 09/02/10 5:10pm

Timmy84

Shango said:

Timmy84 said:

That track was hilarious. Betty Wright's rap had me in stitches too. falloff

Barbara Mason had a "comeback" at Betty with "She's Got the Papers, But I Got the Man" but that was almost like a "ho" anthem.

Then her "man" TURNED on her and said "I rather fuck Billy than you" in "Another Man". falloff She tried to turn it around saying "the man we thought he was, was not what he was at all" but that's why neither of them checked on him. Hahaha

If I'm not mistaken, somebody did an answer song to "Another Man" too. evillol

After you left Prelude, you signed with WMOT (We Men Of Talent) Records, home of groups like Fat Larry's Band, Philly Cream, Captain Sky, Heaven & Earth, Count Coolout, Frankie "Double Dutch" Smith and many others. There you released an album called "A Piece Of My Life", produced by Butch Ingram in 1980. How did you meet him?

-I met him through Alan Rubens, the CEO of WMOT. Butch and myself did a good album, but it didn't too that well because the company didn't promote it. That was the problem, not that the product wasn't good. He and I produced that album together. I did get one R&B hit from that album called "She's Got The Papers (But I Got The Man)" in 1981. There were some other songs on that album that maybe did a little something. I remember that one of the songs, "On And Off", was quite popular in London. But basically it was not a big album and I did not get a lot of recognition until 1984 when we did "Another Man".


Barbara Mason (1978)"She's Got The Papers (But I Got The Man)" was one song in a whole series of songs that were connected to each other like sequels and it was the tale of adultery, told by those involved; The wife, the cheating man and the other woman, each gave their versions of how they looked at the affair, and who the man really belonged to. You did "She's Got The Papers (But I Got The Man), "Richard "Dimples" Fields had "She's Got Papers On Me" and the same year, 1981, New Orleans-vocalist Jean "Mr. Big Stuff" Knight and her singing partner Premium also cut one, called "You've Got The Papers (But I Got The Man)". How on earth did this start?

-We called those "situation songs" and it was a continuation of Shirley Brown's "Woman To Woman". But Richard "Dimples" Fields started it. At the end of his record, Betty Wright comes in and answers him. His record was "She's Got Papers On Me" and I wrote the answer to him which was "She's Got The Papers (But I Got The Man)". Then I did my own sequels, and I incorporated it into "Another Man". One day we're gonna put out like a whole story. We really had a thing going there. If we all could have performed together it would probably have been a sell out (laughs). In fact, Betty Wright, myself, Richard and Shirley Brown, were asked to do it at the time.

Barbara Mason Interview (Part 4)

Interesting stuff, thanks for sharing, Shango. biggrin

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scriptgirl said:


But my drunk uncle Teddy was a riot. He was the same man that my older cousins said took one look at Debarge during Motown 25 and said, "I didn't know Motown was hiring Puerto Ricans" and then he passed out from having consumed 3 bottles of Wild Turkey in one hour.

Uncle Teddy sounds like he was/is a colorful character. God Bless the Uncle Teddy's of the world, lol.

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Reply #16 posted 09/02/10 5:12pm

Timmy84

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But my drunk uncle Teddy was a riot. He was the same man that my older cousins said took one look at Debarge during Motown 25 and said, "I didn't know Motown was hiring Puerto Ricans" and then he passed out from having consumed 3 bottles of Wild Turkey in one hour.

lol lol lol

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Uncle Teddy was the ODB/DMX/ReddFoxx/Richard Pryor of our family. My aunt Consuela was constantly having the vapors and clutching the pearls when he was around. Family holidays were a blast. But old boy was scandalous. Rumor has it that when he was 17, Uncle Teddy tried to pick up the 100 year old aunt of his best friend at a funeral. He said he did it cause he was a young man and she had a lot to teach.

"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
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Reply #18 posted 09/02/10 6:13pm

Timmy84

scriptgirl said:

Uncle Teddy was the ODB/DMX/ReddFoxx/Richard Pryor of our family. My aunt Consuela was constantly having the vapors and clutching the pearls when he was around. Family holidays were a blast. But old boy was scandalous. Rumor has it that when he was 17, Uncle Teddy tried to pick up the 100 year old aunt of his best friend at a funeral. He said he did it cause he was a young man and she had a lot to teach.

OH MY LORD! lol

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And then there was the time he cussed out a troop of girl scouts trying to sell him cookies-they had run out of Thin Mints and all they had were Samoas. Uncle Teddy told them to take their "skinny asses off his porch because everyone knew that Thin Mints went better with Jack"-as in Jack Daniels. I have tons more stories, trust me.

"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
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Reply #20 posted 09/03/10 12:28am

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music smooth song

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Reply #21 posted 09/03/10 3:22am

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vainandy said:

This was a nice slow jam back in the summer of 1981. My favorite part is at the end when Betty Wright is going off on his ass....

You want me out, you gonna have to BUY me out.

Anybody into this one?

Hell yes. It was my anthem during my last divorce evillol

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Reply #22 posted 09/03/10 3:24am

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scriptgirl said:

My drunk Uncle Teddy used to sing this at the top of his lungs when he and my aunt were going through divorce. Let's just say Thanksgiving was REAL colorful one year.

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Reply #23 posted 09/03/10 8:54am

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hi, Aunt Ottie!

"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
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Reply #24 posted 09/03/10 1:46pm

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scriptgirl said:

And then there was the time he cussed out a troop of girl scouts trying to sell him cookies-they had run out of Thin Mints and all they had were Samoas. Uncle Teddy told them to take their "skinny asses off his porch because everyone knew that Thin Mints went better with Jack"-as in Jack Daniels. I have tons more stories, trust me.

falloff

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Reply #25 posted 09/03/10 9:33pm

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And then there was the time he cussed out a troop of girl scouts trying to sell him cookies-they had run out of Thin Mints and all they had were Samoas. Uncle Teddy told them to take their "skinny asses off his porch because everyone knew that Thin Mints went better with Jack"-as in Jack Daniels. I have tons more stories, trust me.

lol You got me dying!

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Reply #26 posted 09/03/10 10:40pm

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Like I said, I got tons more stories.

"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
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Reply #27 posted 09/03/10 11:01pm

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This was cool. I liked If It Ain't One Thing, It's Another better.

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This funk is a serious joint
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Reply #28 posted 09/04/10 12:05am

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This was cool. I liked If It Ain't One Thing, It's Another better.

Me too. There was always something so sad in his voice also, maybe it was the lyrics he sang.

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Reply #29 posted 09/04/10 10:45am

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Timmy84 said:


Interesting stuff, thanks for sharing, Shango. biggrin

thumbs up!

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