midiscover said:

trueiopian said:

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I wouldn't be surprised though.

Did you see that vid of that Aussie psychologist talking about Janet's performance?

Psychologist!? No

EDIT - You beat me to it!

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mimi07 said:

midiscover said:

Psychologist!? No

t4p

Wow it's not even that serious! lmao

DEAD at showing the whole thing on a morning show. The possibility of kids watching it on that show are far higher than kids being at a JJ concert at 1 in the morning and note: it's the overweight and unattractive lady that's upset. Just sayin'

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mimi07 said:

Good post. Dude said that it was supposed to be R&B but it turned into S&M

midiscover said:

mimi07 said:

t4p

Wow it's not even that serious! lmao

DEAD at showing the whole thing on a morning show. The possibility of kids watching it on that show are far higher than kids being at a JJ concert at 1 in the morning and note: it's the overweight and unattractive lady that's upset. Just sayin'

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So hypocritical. They are broadcasting the juicy parts in the morning on TV while condemning it. Bravo idiots.

These pics were shown during one of her costume changes

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those are fierce i wanna see them in HQ. i can't wait to see janet do a cover/shoot with her short hair.

Janet's face is so cute, I don't ever recall her wearing a hairstyle that I did not like. Almost every style goes with her face.

I would like to see her do more acting. She's an underrated actress.

mimi07 said:

midiscover said:

Psychologist!? No

Okay to address big girl: She thinks it's degrading because she either 1) doesn't have sex with anyone besides her pocket rocket she got at a "lady's party", or 2) she still has sex with the lights off under the covers with her husband who couldn't care less about doing her in the first place.

Why would she bring up "sexualizing of children"?!?!?! Kids ain't got shit to do with what's going on w/ Janet on stage.

The other girl is just as stupid although she seems to endorse Janet's performance. "She wanted to make some headlines". WHY? Did I miss something? Give me an instant in the past year that any of the Jacksons have not been on TV, in the news, written about in the media, or hounded for an interner or paparazzi shot.

See my reply above about the whole "wanting attention" bullshit. She's not "resorting" to anything, no more than Madonna "resorts" to standing on a mirrored cross "for attention". How is someone "overly sexualized"??? She's not exactly pulling her lips back on stage and singing about her clitoris, is she?

These are all buzzwords to create unnecessary negativity toward a group of people who cannot deal with a little slap n' tickle. I mean, gheezus, does anyone remember Sheila E. doing this on the Purple Rain tour???? People were riled up back then and that was 1985. This is 2010, where everyone seems to either have a reality show, and/or a sex tape. Janet has neither. The most Janet had was a nude sunbathing video that some invasive person took of her. Almost all of us have laid out nude. Big honkin' deal. She wasn't exactly in the middle of Times Square doing it either. Now folks are pissy and moaning about her rubbing on a guy? What does that say about the guy who volunteered for it? You can't be in bondage to something you didnt' submit to. PUN INTENDED!

When you go to a Prince show, a Madonna show, or a Janet show, you know what you're in for. If you don't want your kids suddenly sexualized and allegedly thinking about going home and copying the performance in your basement, then DON'T FUCKING GO. Just because it's the Essence Festival doesn't mean she's going to get up there and sing a 45 minute rendition of "Man In The Mirror" or "Whoops Now".

The difference betwee folks like Janet or Madonna doing it now (that is being ballsy about something), and young whips like Miley Cyrus or Aguilera is that the latter two are doing it for attention. Why does Miley need to pretend to kiss another girl? Because Madonna did it, that's why. If Madge, Brit, and Aguilera had never lip locked, Miley wouldn't have thought twice about doing it. Who's doing it for attention? Miley is. Aguilera is. They're the ones struggling, not Janet. Not Madonna. Not the women who pioneered wearing a damn sports bra on stage in the first place. Been there done that.

Quick thing about Janet's suit: It's a body suit. She was actually more covered than she was exposed. Don't feed into the illusion. Know your shit before you bash girlfriend.

mimi07 said:

those are fierce i wanna see them in HQ. i can't wait to see janet do a cover/shoot with her short hair.

Me too! I want to see her in a high fashion editorial with barely anything on

ernestsewell said:

mimi07 said:

Okay to address big girl: She thinks it's degrading because she either 1) doesn't have sex with anyone besides her pocket rocket she got at a "lady's party", or 2) she still has sex with the lights off under the covers with her husband who couldn't care less about doing her in the first place.

Why would she bring up "sexualizing of children"?!?!?! Kids ain't got shit to do with what's going on w/ Janet on stage.

The other girl is just as stupid although she seems to endorse Janet's performance. "She wanted to make some headlines". WHY? Did I miss something? Give me an instant in the past year that any of the Jacksons have not been on TV, in the news, written about in the media, or hounded for an interner or paparazzi shot.

See my reply above about the whole "wanting attention" bullshit. She's not "resorting" to anything, no more than Madonna "resorts" to standing on a mirrored cross "for attention". How is someone "overly sexualized"??? She's not exactly pulling her lips back on stage and singing about her clitoris, is she?

These are all buzzwords to create unnecessary negativity toward a group of people who cannot deal with a little slap n' tickle. I mean, gheezus, does anyone remember Sheila E. doing this on the Purple Rain tour???? People were riled up back then and that was 1985. This is 2010, where everyone seems to either have a reality show, and/or a sex tape. Janet has neither. The most Janet had was a nude sunbathing video that some invasive person took of her. Almost all of us have laid out nude. Big honkin' deal. She wasn't exactly in the middle of Times Square doing it either. Now folks are pissy and moaning about her rubbing on a guy? What does that say about the guy who volunteered for it? You can't be in bondage to something you didnt' submit to. PUN INTENDED!

When you go to a Prince show, a Madonna show, or a Janet show, you know what you're in for. If you don't want your kids suddenly sexualized and allegedly thinking about going home and copying the performance in your basement, then DON'T FUCKING GO. Just because it's the Essence Festival doesn't mean she's going to get up there and sing a 45 minute rendition of "Man In The Mirror" or "Whoops Now".

The difference betwee folks like Janet or Madonna doing it now (that is being ballsy about something), and young whips like Miley Cyrus or Aguilera is that the latter two are doing it for attention. Why does Miley need to pretend to kiss another girl? Because Madonna did it, that's why. If Madge, Brit, and Aguilera had never lip locked, Miley wouldn't have thought twice about doing it. Who's doing it for attention? Miley is. Aguilera is. They're the ones struggling, not Janet. Not Madonna. Not the women who pioneered wearing a damn sports bra on stage in the first place. Been there done that.

Quick thing about Janet's suit: It's a body suit. She was actually more covered than she was exposed. Don't feed into the illusion. Know your shit before you bash girlfriend.

Very well said!

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midiscover said:

babygirljj66 said:

well you were obviously bothered when you said "some of you sound so fucking stupid. gtfo!" that lets me know that you were bothered. And No they werent the first to do it but they have made it a popular trend at the momment. And a couple of those outifts most certainly looked like some rhianna/beyonce/gaga crap to me. which is my point. Janet is a legend so there is no need for her to go around lookin like a clone. It's not hot! I have never ever seen janet in a leotard so why all of sudden does she feel the need to wear one(especially at 44 yrs old)? Because she is following a trend which gives me the impression that shes trying to compete with the youngins, stuff that legends don't and should not do.

LMAO! Miss 3 posts, have a seat. They did NOT make it a popular trend. I'm guessing you're most likely 15 years old. She looks nothing like them. Like I said, would you be pleased if she wore a burka instead? She wore short-shorts for "If" on her AFY tour but she's wearing leotards now because she's more confident. Some of you DO sound stupid. The performance was infront of an OLDER crowd. People that DON'T care for Lady Gaga/Rihanna/Beyonce. These people think Charlie fucking Wilson can turn it! LMAO! Janet is just doing Janet. That's all.

No I think I'll stick around for this one. And for the record I'm 23. She don't have to wear a burka...I just prefer her not to look like a clone thats all. And I would like to make note that I prefer janet to all 3 of the other artist that I named. So her all of a sudden succumming to a trend that is currently being headlined by those 3 is a bit lame to me, Being that she is the janet jackson. That's all I'm trying to say here.

midiscover said:

babygirljj66 said:

well you were obviously bothered when you said "some of you sound so fucking stupid. gtfo!" that lets me know that you were bothered. And No they werent the first to do it but they have made it a popular trend at the momment. And a couple of those outifts most certainly looked like some rhianna/beyonce/gaga crap to me. which is my point. Janet is a legend so there is no need for her to go around lookin like a clone. It's not hot! I have never ever seen janet in a leotard so why all of sudden does she feel the need to wear one(especially at 44 yrs old)? Because she is following a trend which gives me the impression that shes trying to compete with the youngins, stuff that legends don't and should not do.

LMAO! Miss 3 posts, have a seat. They did NOT make it a popular trend. I'm guessing you're most likely 15 years old. She looks nothing like them. Like I said, would you be pleased if she wore a burka instead? She wore short-shorts for "If" on her AFY tour but she's wearing leotards now because she's more confident. Some of you DO sound stupid. The performance was infront of an OLDER crowd. People that DON'T care for Lady Gaga/Rihanna/Beyonce. These people think Charlie fucking Wilson can turn it! LMAO! Janet is just doing Janet. That's all.

we will have to agree to disagree then.

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Are you really that mad? lmao

Once again Janet looks nothing like them. She influenced them NEVER the other way around. Get that through your thick head.

and don't be an idiot! Just because she's wearing a leotard and fishnet tights doesn't mean she looks like them. You might as well add Madonna, Cher and countless other female performers to mix. Besides Janet is the one that started the whole sexualized performances before those girls could even walk. They learned it all from Janet.

People were wearing that stuff Gaga and 'em were wearing for years. Janet ain't copying no one so we can get that out the way lol

Timmy84 said:

People were wearing that stuff Gaga and 'em were wearing for years. Janet ain't copying no one so we can get that out the way lol

So I guess Betty Davis and Grace Jones copied Lady GG, Rihanna and Beyonce too

Still talking about it!? Lets move on. Janet doesn't copy anyone. She has always done her own thing. So, NEXT! --->

Rare footage!! Janet's first show on the RN1814 tour

What a natural.

@effhunsd:

Sarah Dash was wearing something similar to this in 1974.

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Timmy84 said:

@effhunsd:

Sarah Dash was wearing something similar to this in 1974.

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i thought we were posting pictures of pop stars in similar outfits to J. not really saying anything

1

The words of David's son, Qoheleth, king in Jerusalem:

2

Vanity of vanities, says Qoheleth, vanity of vanities! All things are vanity!

3

What profit has man from all the labor which he toils at under the sun?

4

One generation passes and another comes, but the world forever stays.

5

The sun rises and the sun goes down; then it presses on to the place where it rises.

6

Blowing now toward the south, then toward the north, the wind turns again and again, resuming its rounds.

7

All rivers go to the sea, yet never does the sea become full. To the place where they go, the rivers keep on going.

8

All speech is labored; there is nothing man can say. The eye is not satisfied with seeing nor is the ear filled with hearing.

9

What has been, that will be; what has been done, that will be done. Nothing is new under the sun.

10

Even the thing of which we say, "See, this is new!" has already existed in the ages that preceded us.

11

There is no remembrance of the men of old; nor of those to come will there be any remembrance among those who come after them.

12

I, Qoheleth, was king over Israel in Jerusalem,

13

and I applied my mind to search and investigate in wisdom all things that are done under the sun. A thankless task God has appointed for men to be busied about.

14

I have seen all things that are done under the sun, and behold, all is vanity and a chase after wind.

15

What is crooked cannot be made straight, and what is missing cannot be supplied.

16

Though I said to myself, "Behold, I have become great and stored up wisdom beyond all who were before me in Jerusalem, and my mind has broad experience of wisdom and knowledge";

17

yet when I applied my mind to know wisdom and knowledge, madness and folly, I learned that this also is a chase after wind.

18

For in much wisdom there is much sorrow, and he who stores up knowledge stores up grief.

http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/ecclesiastes/ecclesiastes1.htm

edited to include the entire chapter

[Edited 7/11/10 14:27pm]

midiscover said:

Are you really that mad? lmao

Once again Janet looks nothing like them. She influenced them NEVER the other way around. Get that through your thick head.

No I'm not mad at all...Do I have to be mad to prove my point? you are the one who seems to get all up in arms when someone points out something they don't like about her. I mean you throw a tantrum if anybody says something negative about her like you know her. You can't seem to have a simple debate w/o cussing or telling someone to shut up,sit down,leave..etc! So you my friend are the mad one. And from the pictures I posted above it sure looks like her outfits were inspired by them seeing as she has never ever worn them before. And I don't care who THEY copy...THEY are not legends. And I'm talking about JANET JACKSON....not cher...not madonna but JANET.

Timmy84 said:

@effhunsd:

Sarah Dash was wearing something similar to this in 1974.

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Ginger Rogers

Ann Margret

I could go on and on but you get the picture.

babygirljj66 said:

midiscover said:

Are you really that mad? lmao

Once again Janet looks nothing like them. She influenced them NEVER the other way around. Get that through your thick head.

No I'm not mad at all...Do I have to be mad to prove my point? you are the one who seems to get all up in arms when someone points out something they don't like about her. I mean you throw a tantrum if anybody says something negative about her like you know her. You can't seem to have a simple debate w/o cussing or telling someone to shut up,sit down,leave..etc! So you my friend are the mad one. And from the pictures I posted above it sure looks like her outfits were inspired by them seeing as she has never ever worn them before. And I don't care who THEY copy...THEY are not legends. And I'm talking about JANET JACKSON....not cher...not madonna but JANET.

Reel? is that you, sweetie? You know you didn't have to go and make a new account to get your point across. and yes, you ARE mad. You took the time to post all the pics for what, idk but I you're that pressed to prove..... nothing. lmao! IDGAF if you don't like her! You can say she's the ugliest person in the world and I wouldn't give a fuck. You can say she's a hoe and I wouldn't give a fuck! LMAO! but if you say some stupid shit like she copied so and so when its clear as day that she didn't then I will call you out. IDGAF if you're upset with my responses or if you feel that I'm "throwing a tantrum" when I'm really just laughing at the fact that you made a new account and continue to post pics of other artists to prove, once again...nothing.

and there was no debate to begin with lmao you were gripping about Janet trying to follow trends because 44 and wearing a leotard lmao and actually think what you're saying holds any truth.

You "my friend" are PRESSED.

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trueiopian said:

ehuffnsd said:

Timmy84 said:

@effhunsd:

Sarah Dash was wearing something similar to this in 1974.

[Edited 7/11/10 14:05pm]

i thought we were posting pictures of pop stars in similar outfits to J. not really saying anything

1

The words of David's son, Qoheleth, king in Jerusalem:

2

Vanity of vanities, says Qoheleth, vanity of vanities! All things are vanity!

3

What profit has man from all the labor which he toils at under the sun?

4

One generation passes and another comes, but the world forever stays.

5

The sun rises and the sun goes down; then it presses on to the place where it rises.

6

Blowing now toward the south, then toward the north, the wind turns again and again, resuming its rounds.

7

All rivers go to the sea, yet never does the sea become full. To the place where they go, the rivers keep on going.

8

All speech is labored; there is nothing man can say. The eye is not satisfied with seeing nor is the ear filled with hearing.

9

What has been, that will be; what has been done, that will be done. Nothing is new under the sun.

10

Even the thing of which we say, "See, this is new!" has already existed in the ages that preceded us.

11

There is no remembrance of the men of old; nor of those to come will there be any remembrance among those who come after them.

12

I, Qoheleth, was king over Israel in Jerusalem,

13

and I applied my mind to search and investigate in wisdom all things that are done under the sun. A thankless task God has appointed for men to be busied about.

14

I have seen all things that are done under the sun, and behold, all is vanity and a chase after wind.

15

What is crooked cannot be made straight, and what is missing cannot be supplied.

16

Though I said to myself, "Behold, I have become great and stored up wisdom beyond all who were before me in Jerusalem, and my mind has broad experience of wisdom and knowledge";

17

yet when I applied my mind to know wisdom and knowledge, madness and folly, I learned that this also is a chase after wind.

18

For in much wisdom there is much sorrow, and he who stores up knowledge stores up grief.

http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/ecclesiastes/ecclesiastes1.htm

edited to include the entire chapter

[Edited 7/11/10 14:27pm]

Qoheleth means Solomon in what language?