Swa said:

^^ They look good but I think the japanese HotToys ones were the bomb - especially the Bille Jean one.

the Thriller one I have looks just like him.

Swa said:

Guys - enough of the personal attacks on here - it's getting way old.

Some people express a point of view - if you disagree that's cool. Give your opinion but don't go making personal attacks on people. And this goes both ways.

It's not worth it in the end.

Enlighten with facts, discuss and debate your own point of view (but be open that other's may not agree and be willing to have your mind changed) and lets get to enjoying the discussion around the art and the music.

The rest is old and done.

Swa

Seriously I have no patience for people like that anymore.

Why doesnt this forum have an ignore list like other forums so unwanted posters comments don't show up?

MyLuv229 said:

cdcgold said:

Common sense should have told you there is no way to bleach your skin that white.

now please shut the fuck up. You are like a broken record.

[Edited 7/13/10 20:45pm]

Careful.. Reel might dismiss you completey by saying you worship Michael as a God and that the autopsy report might be "photoshopped"

With all due respect, MJ can buy a doctor who give him all those crazy prescriptions pills but the whole jackson clan can't buy a autopsy report? come one people get real. This autopsy report is fixed for the press.

mookie said:

http://www.marketwatch.co..._news_stmp

Playmates Toys Announces Details and Plans to Unveil Highly Sought After Michael Jackson Collectibles at San Diego Comic Con

After much anticipation, Playmates Toys is planning to unveil its highly sought after Michael Jackson Collectibles for the first time as part of the Diamond Comics display at San Diego Comic Con, July 21st - 25th. Playmates Toys earlier this year signed a deal with Bravado, the world's leading global music merchandising company, to create collectibles based on the most successful entertainer of all time, Michael Jackson.

"We are delighted to expand our successful line of Michael Jackson collectible memorabilia by working with the innovative team at Playmates Toys," stated Tom Bennett, Chief Executive Officer of Bravado. "This new line truly celebrates Michael's unmistakable style and irreplaceable talent. Bringing in Playmates as a licensee only further cements Michael's retail visibility and helps commemorate and preserve the legacy that is Michael Jackson."

Michael's incomparable style comes to life as Playmates rolls out the unique new 10" scale collectible which captures his likeness and the incredible fashions which have become legendary. The first 10" style will be Billie Jean which captures the bold and flashy outfit worn in the short film. The second 10" collectible is Thriller featuring the iconic red with black trim outfit from the most famous short film of all time. These two styles will launch in Fall 2010 followed by additional styles shortly after. The Michael Jackson Billie Jean and Thriller collectibles will be on display at the Diamond Comics booth #2401 at San Diego Comic Con for the duration of the show.

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These are great,where can I buy them? I wanna get these as Christmas gifts for my niece and nephew.

aarontj said:

MyLuv229 said:

Careful.. Reel might dismiss you completey by saying you worship Michael as a God and that the autopsy report might be "photoshopped"

With all due respect, MJ can buy a doctor who give him all those crazy prescriptions pills but the whole jackson clan can't buy a autopsy report? come one people get real. This autopsy report is fixed for the press.

This wasn't the family's report, but even if it was, you'd think they'd go out of their way to have such a detailed report leaving all the other "undesireable" details intact?

and there were already like 3 fake reports floating around and the press jumped on those faster than the official one

[Edited 7/15/10 1:31am]

aarontj said:

MyLuv229 said:

Careful.. Reel might dismiss you completey by saying you worship Michael as a God and that the autopsy report might be "photoshopped"

With all due respect, MJ can buy a doctor who give him all those crazy prescriptions pills but the whole jackson clan can't buy a autopsy report? come one people get real. This autopsy report is fixed for the press.

I wonder how many geniuses can make that shit up in people's autopsies...

Ugh... guys please post music, this ongoing discussion keeps on interrupting shit.

aarontj said:

MyLuv229 said:

Careful.. Reel might dismiss you completey by saying you worship Michael as a God and that the autopsy report might be "photoshopped"

With all due respect, MJ can buy a doctor who give him all those crazy prescriptions pills but the whole jackson clan can't buy a autopsy report? come one people get real. This autopsy report is fixed for the press.

The autopsy also showed MJ's body had no trace of neither long term nor short term drug addiction. Why would the family buy an autopsy report which claims exactly the contrary of what they are saying all over the media? The family is calling MJ a junkie 24/7, so why would they buy an autopsy which claims exactly the contrary of what they are trying to pass?

The junkie argument fits the Jackson's agenda and pockets...so why would they buy an autopsy which states the contrary of what they are/have claiming/ed everywhere?

Ignore aarontj: he/she is the same person who said, with all certainty, that LMP had written a book talking about how the marriage to MJ was a sham and how he was such a pedophile. This user is also the same who claimed MJ bought Chandler's silence when the agreement between them showed exactly the opposite. This is the same guy/girl who said that the only reason Thriller sold millions and millions was because MJ's fans bought dozens of copies each.

MJ didn't "buy" any doctor. He hired one in order to put him to sleep everynight, since he was an insomniac.

Ohh and BTW, Aarontj, wasn't the autopsy shown here photoshopped? Didn't dead MJ bribe the coroner? Didn't the family, who claims exactly the contrary of what is in the autopsy, put a gun in the coronores' head while he wrote it? Don't you think these "worshippers" are ignoring the amazingly credible autopsy report from The Sun while looking at the descredited Cornoner's report? I mean...FLOONS! You are the only one who has a brain here! Please, Aaontj, enlighten all these worshippers with you amazing factual and credible arguments! PLEASE!

[Edited 7/15/10 4:40am]

WildStyle said:

aarontj said:

With all due respect, MJ can buy a doctor who give him all those crazy prescriptions pills but the whole jackson clan can't buy a autopsy report? come one people get real. This autopsy report is fixed for the press.

And they say MJ fans are crazy

You know what, I can´t sometimes even argue with some people cause their way of thinking is so beyond me that I don´t know what kind of logical argument to use, if this type of "logic" is perfectly OK for them, like for instance:

Claiming MJ hated his race and wanted to be white and blamed it on vitiligo. It´s like saying bald people with cancer after chemiotherapy are skinheads and racists and they deny it and blame the desease for that.

Claiming he bleached his skin and wanted to look like Diana Ross - a black woman.

Claiming he wanted to be white cause he hated being black because of his father as if his mother that he adored and loved with his kids above anything else was not black.

Claiming he never slept with any woman and was asexual and at the same time accuse him of being sexual predator molesting boys.

Believing that he had all the Playboy´s and Penthouses´s to show to his alleged victims even though an article called “The Second Female G-Spot” was found in his laptop, but hey...Mike was crazy and stupid. I bet he thought that men and boys had them, too, otherwise why would he be interested in reading that since he´s not into sex with women.

Calling MJ liar for lying about plastic surgery and therefore totally not "credible" person while citing other people who have made contradictory statements about Michael in the past, but they are not liars because the time they finally start speaking about him negatively is when they finally "opened up and dared to say how they truly felt about him."

Totally forgetting and ignoring Mike´s version about Blanket´s mother where he said the he knew her and that she was his girlfriend who didn´t want to become famous for having a child with him and presenting the other version of the surrogate mother as an undisputed fact cause there´s just no way Mike could ever had sex with any woman not even with his wives (cause the first one he must have married only to clean up his imagine and the other one was not pretty enough for him to have sex with. Yeah, only pretty people have sex, didn´t you know that?).

To me it seems that to some people the crazier and out of this world some story is the more probably it must be the truth just because Mike was one of the crazies and out of this world people and how can we be so sure of that? Just look at him? It´s like saying that all the other normal looking and handsome man are "normal and nice" people. Yeah, right. Just like Mel Gibson.

OK not everything I wrote was written particularly on this thread, but these are some of the arguments are come across very frequently in my life.

[Edited 7/15/10 5:08am]

Someone needs to start a petition and tell the folks at Sony/Epic Records to release a DVD of the Triumph Tour ASAP!!! This is stunning...

Timmy84 said:

Nice, Timmy!

silverchild said:

Someone needs to start a petition and tell the folks at Sony/Epic Records to release a DVD of the Triumph Tour ASAP!!! This is stunning...

Mike was superhot back then.

dag said:

WildStyle said:

And they say MJ fans are crazy

You know what, I can´t sometimes even argue with some people cause their way of thinking is so beyond me that I don´t know what kind of logical argument to use, if this type of "logic" is perfectly OK for them, like for instance:

Claiming MJ hated his race and wanted to be white and blamed it on vitiligo. It´s like saying bald people with cancer after chemiotherapy are skinheads and racists and they deny it and blame the desease for that.

Claiming he bleached his skin and wanted to look like Diana Ross - a black woman.

Claiming he wanted to be white cause he hated being black because of his father as if his mother that he adored and loved with his kids above anything else was not black.

Claiming he never slept with any woman and was asexual and at the same time accuse him of being sexual predator molesting boys.

Believing that he had all the Playboy´s and Penthouses´s to show to his alleged victims even though an article called “The Second Female G-Spot” was found in his laptop, but hey...Mike was crazy and stupid. I bet he thought that men and boys had them, too, otherwise why would he be interested in reading that since he´s not into sex with women.

Calling MJ liar for lying about plastic surgery and therefore totally not "credible" person while citing other people who have made contradictory statements about Michael in the past, but they are not liars because the time they finally start speaking about him negatively is when they finally "opened up and dared to say how they truly felt about him."

Totally forgetting and ignoring Mike´s version about Blanket´s mother where he said the he knew her and that she was his girlfriend who didn´t want to become famous for having a child with him and presenting the other version of the surrogate mother as an undisputed fact cause there´s just no way Mike could ever had sex with any woman not even with his wives (cause the first one he must have married only to clean up his imagine and the other one was not pretty enough for him to have sex with. Yeah, only pretty people have sex, didn´t you know that?).

To me it seems that to some people the crazier and out of this world some story is the more probably it must be the truth just because Mike was one of the crazies and out of this world people and how can we be so sure of that? Just look at him? It´s like saying that all the other normal looking and handsome man are "normal and nice" people. Yeah, right. Just like Mel Gibson.

OK not everything I wrote was written particularly on this thread, but these are some of the arguments are come across very frequently in my life.

[Edited 7/15/10 5:08am]

Exactly. I've dealt with this for years. MJ haters seem to contradict themselves all in the same breath. I don't even get involved anymore, it's a waste of time. No matter how many facts and evidence you hit them with they're gonna believe what they want to believe.

silverchild said:

Someone needs to start a petition and tell the folks at Sony/Epic Records to release a DVD of the Triumph Tour ASAP!!! This is stunning...

Exactly. The 30th anniversary of the "Jacksons Live" album is coming out soon, they should re-release the CD (with tracks taking off the original album, I think they did more songs that were edited out) and then release a DVD of one of the shows they recorded fully.

Great picture.

SoulAlive said:

mookie said:

http://www.marketwatch.co..._news_stmp

Playmates Toys Announces Details and Plans to Unveil Highly Sought After Michael Jackson Collectibles at San Diego Comic Con

After much anticipation, Playmates Toys is planning to unveil its highly sought after Michael Jackson Collectibles for the first time as part of the Diamond Comics display at San Diego Comic Con, July 21st - 25th. Playmates Toys earlier this year signed a deal with Bravado, the world's leading global music merchandising company, to create collectibles based on the most successful entertainer of all time, Michael Jackson.

"We are delighted to expand our successful line of Michael Jackson collectible memorabilia by working with the innovative team at Playmates Toys," stated Tom Bennett, Chief Executive Officer of Bravado. "This new line truly celebrates Michael's unmistakable style and irreplaceable talent. Bringing in Playmates as a licensee only further cements Michael's retail visibility and helps commemorate and preserve the legacy that is Michael Jackson."

Michael's incomparable style comes to life as Playmates rolls out the unique new 10" scale collectible which captures his likeness and the incredible fashions which have become legendary. The first 10" style will be Billie Jean which captures the bold and flashy outfit worn in the short film. The second 10" collectible is Thriller featuring the iconic red with black trim outfit from the most famous short film of all time. These two styles will launch in Fall 2010 followed by additional styles shortly after. The Michael Jackson Billie Jean and Thriller collectibles will be on display at the Diamond Comics booth #2401 at San Diego Comic Con for the duration of the show.

[img:$uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v382/kuzeh/22305-Thriller-Ad__scaled_600.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v382/kuzeh/22301-Billie-Jean-Ad__scaled_600.jpg[/img:$uid]

These are great,where can I buy them? I wanna get these as Christmas gifts for my niece and nephew.

bboy87 said:

Swa said:

^^ They look good but I think the japanese HotToys ones were the bomb - especially the Bille Jean one.

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t59/SpawnFan1/DSC04046.jpg

The Hot Toys versions were better in my opinion. The Dirty Diana/Bad one that just came out looks real cool

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Timmy84 said:

silverchild said:

Someone needs to start a petition and tell the folks at Sony/Epic Records to release a DVD of the Triumph Tour ASAP!!! This is stunning...

Exactly. The 30th anniversary of the "Jacksons Live" album is coming out soon, they should re-release the CD (with tracks taking off the original album, I think they did more songs that were edited out) and then release a DVD of one of the shows they recorded fully.

Oh my god Timmy! Thanks for the info, I'm so excited...

silverchild said:

Timmy84 said:

Exactly. The 30th anniversary of the "Jacksons Live" album is coming out soon, they should re-release the CD (with tracks taking off the original album, I think they did more songs that were edited out) and then release a DVD of one of the shows they recorded fully.

Oh my god Timmy! Thanks for the info, I'm so excited...

Mmhmm 2011.

I like to see someone do something for that album.

Semi-off topic but "Heartbreak Hotel" ("This Place Hotel") is easy becoming one of my top five Michael songs of all time. I call it an MJ track because none of the other Jacksons sang background on it and besides only featured Tito and Randy lol.

It's a Michael Jackson solo track disguised as a Jacksons song lol

Timmy84 said:

silverchild said:

Oh my god Timmy! Thanks for the info, I'm so excited...

Mmhmm 2011.

I like to see someone do something for that album.

Semi-off topic but "Heartbreak Hotel" ("This Place Hotel") is easy becoming one of my top five Michael songs of all time. I call it an MJ track because none of the other Jacksons sang background on it and besides only featured Tito and Randy lol.

It's a Michael Jackson solo track disguised as a Jacksons song lol

Right. I've been jamming the Triumph, Live and Destiny albums lately and it's This Place Hotel (Heartbreak Hotel) that has me jumping from wall to wall. I always believed that this was a solo track because even though there were only his brothers providing percussion work and some screaming involvement from LaToya, Michael is the center of all of the attention throughout the song. It doesn't even sound too much like a Jacksons track anyway...But anyways, I'm glad that Live will be getting the deluxe treatment sometime next year because I'm tired of my old beat up CD.

[Edited 7/15/10 13:27pm]

Timmy84 said:

silverchild said:

Someone needs to start a petition and tell the folks at Sony/Epic Records to release a DVD of the Triumph Tour ASAP!!! This is stunning...

Exactly. The 30th anniversary of the "Jacksons Live" album is coming out soon, they should re-release the CD (with tracks taking off the original album, I think they did more songs that were edited out) and then release a DVD of one of the shows they recorded fully.

They re-released all the Jacksons albums in Japan in mini LP cases (paper sleeve)

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thanks to Korgnex for this info

• The Jacksons - 2009 digital master
• Goin' Places - 2009 digital master
• Destiny - 2008 digital master
  identical with the "Expanded Edition", also known as "Legacy Edition" or "30th Anniversary Edition"
  bonus tracks:
  • "Blame It On The Boogie [John Luongo Disco Mix]" - 7:01 min
  • "Shake Your Body (Down To The Ground) [John Luongo Disco Mix]" - 8:38 min
• Triumph - 2008 digital master
  identical with the "Expanded Edition", also known as "Legacy Edition"
  bonus tracks:
  • "Heartbreak Hotel [Single Edit]" - 4:53 min
  • "Walk Right Now [John Luongo Disco Mix]" - 7:38 min
  • "Walk Right Now [John Luongo Instrumental Mix]" - 6:58 min
• The Jacksons Live - 2009 digital master
  the cardboard Mini-LP edition has 2 CDs to resemble the original Vinyl release
  bonus track:
  "Workin' Day And Night (2008 Live Edit)" - 4:34 min
  this edit was issued on the Japanese THRILLER 25 Singles Collection
• Victory - 2009 digital master
• 2300 Jackson Street - 2010 digital master
• (BRAND-NEW and ONLY available as Jewel Case CD)

silverchild said:

Timmy84 said:

Mmhmm 2011.

I like to see someone do something for that album.

Semi-off topic but "Heartbreak Hotel" ("This Place Hotel") is easy becoming one of my top five Michael songs of all time. I call it an MJ track because none of the other Jacksons sang background on it and besides only featured Tito and Randy lol.

It's a Michael Jackson solo track disguised as a Jacksons song lol

Right. I've been jamming the Triumph, Live and Destiny albums lately and it's This Place Hotel (Heartbreak Hotel) that has me jumping from wall to wall. I always believed that this was a solo track because even though there were only his brothers providing percussion work and some screaming involvement from LaToya, Michael is the center of all of the attention throughout the song. It doesn't even sound too much like a Jacksons track anyway...But anyways, I'm glad that Live will be getting the deluxe treatment sometime next year because I'm tired of my old beat up CD.

[Edited 7/15/10 13:27pm]

Yeah it really wasn't. In fact Michael provided the background vocals to the bridge and chorus (and could be heard grunting at the end of the bridges) while the Waters were the ones going "oooh-oooh-OOOH-OOOH-oooh-oooh".

motownlover said:

can someone clear this up , is there any truth in sony rejecting 4 songs from mike in 2007 ? and are those related to the cascio recordings? and if he did record an entire 12 song album , why not release it as a whole if its coherent ?

Yeah, they rejected the songs because according to them they were NOT commercial enough.

I don't know if those songs are from the cascio recordings......

Maybe they were classic MJ sound like " stranger in moscow" , " who is it" and of course according to sony, those kind of songs of that sound Do Not sell.......

>>>>>>>

[Edited 7/15/10 15:54pm]

silverchild said:

Someone needs to start a petition and tell the folks at Sony/Epic Records to release a DVD of the Triumph Tour ASAP!!! This is stunning...

True!

I finally got my copy of Live At The Forum today with some extra treats:

I know its gonna be seen as negative, but admit it folks, in 2001, during the aniversay concerts (which was mostly a shambles) and that awkward Nsync MTV awards during "pop", he was definately on some sort of painkillers. He looked drowsy as hell! He looked better during his New York press signing (which i thought was cool), but you look at him and those performances and he was off! Considering how drugged up he was he probably did pretty well, but he was still off somewhat.

Iam not blaming him, but I just wish he didn't have to do those performances. I guess thats what you have to do when your promoting. Perform in any weather, no matter how you feel, but it was still odd to see him like that. I know his diehard fans know he was off a little. And that MTV Nsync bit was really terrible. Fair enough you have one bad performance, but he looked weak and tired at the aniversary concerts aswell.

thesexofit said:

I know its gonna be seen as negative, but admit it folks, in 2001, during the aniversay concerts (which was mostly a shambles) and that awkward Nsync MTV awards during "pop", he was definately on some sort of painkillers. He looked drowsy as hell! He looked better during his New York press signing (which i thought was cool), but you look at him and those performances and he was off! Considering how drugged up he was he probably did pretty well, but he was still off somewhat.

Iam not blaming him, but I just wish he didn't have to do those performances. I guess thats what you have to do when your promoting. Perform in any weather, no matter how you feel, but it was still odd to see him like that. I know his diehard fans know he was off a little. And that MTV Nsync bit was really terrible. Fair enough you have one bad performance, but he looked weak and tired at the aniversary concerts aswell.

Yeah the 2001 shows definitely weren't the best shows he did. I always thought it had to do with the work he done on his face earlier that year (he looked good in 1999 and part of 2000) but yeah he did look drowsy and just flat out "I really don't give a fuck about these shows"

I'm still pissed off that the autograph signing was ON MY BIRTHDAY and I was a thousand miles away. He could've at least did one in California!

I also feel he was out of shape (he had packed on some weight)

I heard the show at the Apollo that he did a couple of months later was alot better and from what we've seen in This Is It, he did MUCH better in those rehearsals than the 2001 shows

bboy87 said:

thesexofit said:

I know its gonna be seen as negative, but admit it folks, in 2001, during the aniversay concerts (which was mostly a shambles) and that awkward Nsync MTV awards during "pop", he was definately on some sort of painkillers. He looked drowsy as hell! He looked better during his New York press signing (which i thought was cool), but you look at him and those performances and he was off! Considering how drugged up he was he probably did pretty well, but he was still off somewhat.

Iam not blaming him, but I just wish he didn't have to do those performances. I guess thats what you have to do when your promoting. Perform in any weather, no matter how you feel, but it was still odd to see him like that. I know his diehard fans know he was off a little. And that MTV Nsync bit was really terrible. Fair enough you have one bad performance, but he looked weak and tired at the aniversary concerts aswell.

Yeah the 2001 shows definitely weren't the best shows he did. I always thought it had to do with the work he done on his face earlier that year (he looked good in 1999 and part of 2000) but yeah he did look drowsy and just flat out "I really don't give a fuck about these shows"

I'm still pissed off that the autograph signing was ON MY BIRTHDAY and I was a thousand miles away. He could've at least did one in California!

I also feel he was out of shape (he had packed on some weight)

I heard the show at the Apollo that he did a couple of months later was alot better and from what we've seen in This Is It, he did MUCH better in those rehearsals than the 2001 shows

LOL, I would of loved to go to the signing. I liked his haircut in that era LOL. I got a tiny clip from somewhere on some documentary and he says to the camera "I love you MTV. Love Michael Jackson". It was just before either the MTV Awards or his aniversay concerts, and the way he said it LOL. He sounded so bored and drowsy LOL. A shame, but kinda funny aswell.

I still laugh at Randy shouting "you down with O.P.P!" during "ABC" and the scowling look michael gave him. A tour with his brothers back then could of been a laugh LOL. Marlon danced better then Michael on that performance. How many times can you say that about Marlon LOL. He rocked that night

Bytheway, you know the aniversary concerts were 2 nights, anyone seen both performances by himself and his brothers?