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PrintableHarlepolis said: Timmy84 said: When Stephanie was still signed to Motown, Berry tried to buy movie rights then because he wanted Stephanie and Michael in it. I think when Diana convinced Sidney Lumet to let her do it despite Berry's advice for her not to do it (because Diana was battling Berry for control of her career at the time), Berry did whatever he did to destroy whatever momentum he thought he had so he didn't help to promote it. I think the soundtrack was released on MCA and not Motown. Stephanie left Motown after that. It upsets me that Stephanie got caught up between those two and took the fall. What a ROTTON scene! And extremely idiotic, it turned out to be an embarrassment for ALL the parties invloved. I bet she was glad she wasn't part of it. [Edited 5/9/10 15:49pm] I agree. It was like that big nasty feud and that blew up whatever opportunity Stephanie could've had to make the film a hit but I'm also glad Stephanie didn't get caught up in it. Winning the Grammy for "Never Knew Love Like This Before" about three years later was PAYBACK because Ms. Ross was nominated for "Upside Down".  | |
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Timmy84 said: Harlepolis said: It upsets me that Stephanie got caught up between those two and took the fall. What a ROTTON scene! And extremely idiotic, it turned out to be an embarrassment for ALL the parties invloved. I bet she was glad she wasn't part of it. [Edited 5/9/10 15:49pm] I agree. It was like that big nasty feud and that blew up whatever opportunity Stephanie could've had to make the film a hit but I'm also glad Stephanie didn't get caught up in it. Winning the Grammy for "Never Knew Love Like This Before" about three years later was PAYBACK because Ms. Ross was nominated for "Upside Down". 
If it ain't something, its the other though,,,somebody stays stealing that girl's thunder for some reason. Remember when Roberta Flack made this big commotion about her & Donny Hathaway losing the Grammy to Stephanie?  I love how Stephanie stayed graceful through out all of that mess. Lord knows nobody could blame her had she went off BIG APPLE TIME on both of Diana and Roberta. | |
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Harlepolis said: Timmy84 said: I agree. It was like that big nasty feud and that blew up whatever opportunity Stephanie could've had to make the film a hit but I'm also glad Stephanie didn't get caught up in it. Winning the Grammy for "Never Knew Love Like This Before" about three years later was PAYBACK because Ms. Ross was nominated for "Upside Down".
If it ain't something, its the other though,,,somebody stays stealing that girl's thunder for some reason. Remember when Roberta Flack made this big commotion about her & Donny Hathaway losing the Grammy to Stephanie? I love how Stephanie stayed graceful through out all of that mess. Lord knows nobody could blame her had she went off BIG APPLE TIME on both of Diana and Roberta.Ew, I think I remember reading about it. All mad about little ass Stephanie. Makes no sense.  | |
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didn't Stephanie date Michael Jackson too?
while Diana just kinda cougared him up.... | |
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BklynBabe said: didn't Stephanie date Michael Jackson too?
while Diana just kinda cougared him up.... As the story goes...yeah...lol | |
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I know these are just opinions and that the legendary comparison of assholes to opinions is likely true but...y'all are fuckin' nuts if you pick anyone's version over Stephanie Mills'. That is all.
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RipHer2Shreds said: I know these are just opinions and that the legendary comparison of assholes to opinions is likely true but...y'all are fuckin' nuts if you pick anyone's version over Stephanie Mills'. That is all.
I knew I loved your posts for a reason!  
Amen! | |
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Sidney Lumet was not Lena's ex. He is the ex of Lena's daughter, Gail and the father of Lena's granddaughter, Jenny Lumet, who wrote the screenplay for Rachel Gets Married.
That said, what is the story about Roberta bitching about losing the grammy to Stephanie? When did this happen? "Lack of home training crosses all boundaries." | |
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Timmy84 said: Diana did beg whoever was producing it to give her role.
Berry Gordy didn't want her to do it according to someone on Diana's documentary. When it flopped, Berry went to her and said "told you that shit would flop". 'The Wiz' was a fiasco.Diana should have never gotten that role,but the movie has other problems too. | |
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BklynBabe said: didn't Stephanie date Michael Jackson too?
they dated in the late 70s.
She dedicates her new single "Yesterday" to Michael | |
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Timmy84 said: When Stephanie was still signed to Motown, Berry tried to buy movie rights then because he wanted Stephanie and Michael in it. I think when Diana convinced Sidney Lumet to let her do it despite Berry's advice for her not to do it (because Diana was battling Berry for control of her career at the time), Berry did whatever he did to destroy whatever momentum he thought he had so he didn't help to promote it. I think the soundtrack was released on MCA and not Motown. Stephanie left Motown after that.
This is one time that Berry was right Diana had no business starring in that movie. | |
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Timmy84 said: RipHer2Shreds said: I know these are just opinions and that the legendary comparison of assholes to opinions is likely true but...y'all are fuckin' nuts if you pick anyone's version over Stephanie Mills'. That is all.
I knew I loved your posts for a reason!
Amen!
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This song belongs to Stephanie. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: Worthy mention.  Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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SoulAlive said:
Totally had the book that the second pic was scanned from. | |
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Stephanie got hosed. HOSED, I tell you!  Honey, stop talking and just create the music. | |
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Timmy84 said: Harlepolis said: I know Diane's deep throat is legendary but it wasn't the case. It was Berry Gordy's plan to revive the Motown legacy, plain & simple. At this point, they were estranged, right? The director was Lena Horne's ex-husband, Sidney Lumet  this is the SAME mofo who made the ever-so-brilliant Network and Dog Day Afternoon among a long, long, looooong list of great films. How in the deep black & blue hell did the man get linked to this calamity? I bet her  whenever he remembers doing it.When Stephanie was still signed to Motown, Berry tried to buy movie rights then because he wanted Stephanie and Michael in it. I think when Diana convinced Sidney Lumet to let her do it despite Berry's advice for her not to do it (because Diana was battling Berry for control of her career at the time), Berry did whatever he did to destroy whatever momentum he thought he had so he didn't help to promote it. I think the soundtrack was released on MCA and not Motown. Stephanie left Motown after that. I don't think Berry wanted Michael in the role at first, it was Diana who thought Michael should do the movie. Remember, Berry was suing him and the brothers around that time for breach of contract Damn, Stephanie was on Motown? Wow, you learn something new everyday
Lumet probably did say "the fuck did I sign on for" after the movie flopped. I still love it though "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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Harlepolis said: Timmy84 said: I agree. It was like that big nasty feud and that blew up whatever opportunity Stephanie could've had to make the film a hit but I'm also glad Stephanie didn't get caught up in it. Winning the Grammy for "Never Knew Love Like This Before" about three years later was PAYBACK because Ms. Ross was nominated for "Upside Down".
If it ain't something, its the other though,,,somebody stays stealing that girl's thunder for some reason. Remember when Roberta Flack made this big commotion about her & Donny Hathaway losing the Grammy to Stephanie? I love how Stephanie stayed graceful through out all of that mess. Lord knows nobody could blame her had she went off BIG APPLE TIME on both of Diana and Roberta.What? "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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Shephanie
Home was written for her voice, the way it should be. It was so nice that she did it twice, the original the first time and a late 80's remake the second time. | |
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Harlepolis said: Timmy84 said: I agree. It was like that big nasty feud and that blew up whatever opportunity Stephanie could've had to make the film a hit but I'm also glad Stephanie didn't get caught up in it. Winning the Grammy for "Never Knew Love Like This Before" about three years later was PAYBACK because Ms. Ross was nominated for "Upside Down".
If it ain't something, its the other though,,,somebody stays stealing that girl's thunder for some reason. Remember when Roberta Flack made this big commotion about her & Donny Hathaway losing the Grammy to Stephanie? I love how Stephanie stayed graceful through out all of that mess. Lord knows nobody could blame her had she went off BIG APPLE TIME on both of Diana and Roberta.I've never heard this before, but I'm not shocked. Roberta is not known for being...nice. She's a lot like Dionne that way. | |
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after listening to the others, i still prefer Kristin's version  | |
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Harlepolis said: That was Nippy's GREATEST televised live performance.
With that said, Stephanie sang that song all the way down from her pussy,,,,,ain't NO way in stone cold hell somebody is gonna match that. Thats like saying, Jennifer Holliday's version of "I'm Telling You" is up for discussion in comparision to the other renditions. I'll never, never, I mean never hear 'Home' again without thinking of your.....touching words. 
I agree it's Ms. Mills song. | |
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I stand by my statement that The Wiz is an underrated classic. Like Beloved, it hits a nerve and shared the black experience in a way that is uncomfortable to the masses. Interesting enough, both films were directed by white men (Jonathan Demme in the case of Beloved). IMHO, If not for Spike Lee and Kasi Lemmons, our stories would never have hit the big screen as truthfully. Come on, ya-all, think of the holiday supper, don't tell me that isn't the truest form of black family ever put to film. Judge The Wiz on it's one merits, and IMHO it's a masterpiece. Space for sale... | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: Harlepolis said:
If it ain't something, its the other though,,,somebody stays stealing that girl's thunder for some reason. Remember when Roberta Flack made this big commotion about her & Donny Hathaway losing the Grammy to Stephanie? I love how Stephanie stayed graceful through out all of that mess. Lord knows nobody could blame her had she went off BIG APPLE TIME on both of Diana and Roberta.I've never heard this before, but I'm not shocked. Roberta is not known for being...nice. She's a lot like Dionne that way.No, Ms. Flack's isn't the most engaging person, another entertainer who needs to get over themselves. | |
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Ellie said: Stephanie's live version at the Apollo in 1989/1990. Jaw droopingly great.
Quite true. We had this on some old VHS tape. I think it's on YT also. Anyway...she makes my soul leap with joy. This is Stephanie's song. Them other heffas...meh. | |
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I was shocked that time Roberta came out onstage with the Fugees. She is very "protective", shall we say of Donnie Hathaway's legacy. "Lack of home training crosses all boundaries." | |
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InsatiableCream said: after listening to the others, i still prefer Kristin's version
Hey you're a Glee fan I can understand. I'm not so I have to agree to disagree.  Even a friend I talk to online who likes Kristin but hates Glee said this version was corny. But hey you like what you like, can't hate on that. | |
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DesireeNevermind said: Ellie said: Stephanie's live version at the Apollo in 1989/1990. Jaw droopingly great.
Quite true. We had this on some old VHS tape. I think it's on YT also. Anyway...she makes my soul leap with joy. This is Stephanie's song. Them other heffas...meh. I posted it.
And I agree she sung that song to let it be known: "it's MY song!" | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: Harlepolis said:
If it ain't something, its the other though,,,somebody stays stealing that girl's thunder for some reason. Remember when Roberta Flack made this big commotion about her & Donny Hathaway losing the Grammy to Stephanie? I love how Stephanie stayed graceful through out all of that mess. Lord knows nobody could blame her had she went off BIG APPLE TIME on both of Diana and Roberta.I've never heard this before, but I'm not shocked. Roberta is not known for being...nice. She's a lot like Dionne that way.She yawned and yawned about Donny/Roberta's grammy loss to Stephanie, it was right after he passsed away, and she thought the Grammy would grand him a trophy. She basically said in more ways than one that Stephanie didn't deserve to win. You still have David Nathan's Soulful Divas, right? Its in Roberta's chapter. | |
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