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Reply #30 posted 01/23/03 1:08am

NuPwrSoul

Mhm mhm mhm disbelief
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Reply #31 posted 01/23/03 3:40am

nas3110

Essence said:

Supernova said:

CalhounSq said:

I wanna hear him sing Feelin' On Yo Booty while he's gargling somebody's piss in jail... neutral

eekeek


Right? What a reactionary lot we have on this thread. Isn't the idea behind prison that the jailed become reformed, so able to exist in the world without being controlled by the system?

That was the theory. The reality is somewhat different. No one gets reformed in prison.




If R is found guilty then it's time for him to finally confront the issues (no more pay offs or avoiding the subject) that got him where he is and explain and cure his illness for underage girls.


Pedophiles are mentally ill. There IS no cure. Not even castration.


Prison retribution/pain/torture etc etc just creates whole new set of problems. Besides if anyone messes with him in jail it would be suicide because he'll always hold massive sway.



How so? R Kelly ain't no badass gang banger, he's a millionaire singer who likes to fuck underage girls. The first targets for rape and serious assault in prison are pedophiles and rapists. The fact that R Kelly is famous will probably make him an even bigger draw for the booty bandits. Sid Vicious got raped at Rikers, as did Tupac (allegedly).
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Reply #32 posted 01/23/03 3:47am

nas3110

mistermaxxx said:

Ithink R.Kelly needs some help&I also think He has too deal with His Urges in a manner that can get him some treatment.if you are a Parent you'd wanna beat the Hell out of Him.3 Meals,a Cot,Making Music on lockdown isn't gonna make up for things of this magnitude IMHO.Money can't bring back the lost innocence.I think Race plays a part in this that He is being held accountable for things that White Entertainers have done but aren't gotten after.I don't condone His Behavior at all but there is a double-standard&His Black Ass should know better.the sad part parents took His Money&stayed Quiet&if the Po-Po weren't trying too flip His case so much sadly stuff would have stayed quiet.no winners in this situation.


I don't think race comes into it. Name a few white entertainers who have recently been in high profile busts for having sex with minors, and who have gotten away with it?
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Reply #33 posted 01/23/03 4:04am

DavidEye

nas3110 said:

mistermaxxx said:

Ithink R.Kelly needs some help&I also think He has too deal with His Urges in a manner that can get him some treatment.if you are a Parent you'd wanna beat the Hell out of Him.3 Meals,a Cot,Making Music on lockdown isn't gonna make up for things of this magnitude IMHO.Money can't bring back the lost innocence.I think Race plays a part in this that He is being held accountable for things that White Entertainers have done but aren't gotten after.I don't condone His Behavior at all but there is a double-standard&His Black Ass should know better.the sad part parents took His Money&stayed Quiet&if the Po-Po weren't trying too flip His case so much sadly stuff would have stayed quiet.no winners in this situation.


I don't think race comes into it. Name a few white entertainers who have recently been in high profile busts for having sex with minors, and who have gotten away with it?



Rob Lowe smile
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Reply #34 posted 01/23/03 4:44am

abierman

as sad it is for the children he allegedly had sex with, try seeing the positive side of all this: if he is guilty, we'll probably be saved from his God-awful R&B-diarrhea,...so we will all benefit!
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Reply #35 posted 01/23/03 5:59am

nas3110

DavidEye said:

nas3110 said:

mistermaxxx said:

Ithink R.Kelly needs some help&I also think He has too deal with His Urges in a manner that can get him some treatment.if you are a Parent you'd wanna beat the Hell out of Him.3 Meals,a Cot,Making Music on lockdown isn't gonna make up for things of this magnitude IMHO.Money can't bring back the lost innocence.I think Race plays a part in this that He is being held accountable for things that White Entertainers have done but aren't gotten after.I don't condone His Behavior at all but there is a double-standard&His Black Ass should know better.the sad part parents took His Money&stayed Quiet&if the Po-Po weren't trying too flip His case so much sadly stuff would have stayed quiet.no winners in this situation.


I don't think race comes into it. Name a few white entertainers who have recently been in high profile busts for having sex with minors, and who have gotten away with it?



Rob Lowe smile



I do retort, slightly.
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Reply #36 posted 01/23/03 6:31am

Essence

CalhounSq said:

Essence said:

Supernova said:

CalhounSq said:

I wanna hear him sing Feelin' On Yo Booty while he's gargling somebody's piss in jail... neutral

eekeek


Right? What a reactionary lot we have on this thread. Isn't the idea behind prison that the jailed become reformed, so able to exist in the world without being controlled by the system?

If R is found guilty then it's time for him to finally confront the issues (no more pay offs or avoiding the subject) that got him where he is and explain and cure his illness for underage girls.

Prison retribution/pain/torture etc etc just creates whole new set of problems. Besides if anyone messes with him in jail it would be suicide because he'll always hold massive sway.


I am reactionary & judgemental about anyone who has sex with children, proud of it smile He's done this repeatedly for years & feels no guilt about it - you think he can be reformed? evillol


All I'm saying is nobody is born evil and something damaged him somewhere along the way. Seems like he has gone through his life using money to buy silence and avoid confronting the problem. If he could learn to control the urges then he's no threat to society and could safely walk the streets.

Do all the evil tortures and nasty minded retributions you all listed and he's liable (As anyone else would) to emerge angrier and more messed up than ever.
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Reply #37 posted 01/23/03 6:34am

Essence

nas3110 said:

Essence said:

Supernova said:

CalhounSq said:

I wanna hear him sing Feelin' On Yo Booty while he's gargling somebody's piss in jail... neutral

eekeek


Right? What a reactionary lot we have on this thread. Isn't the idea behind prison that the jailed become reformed, so able to exist in the world without being controlled by the system?

That was the theory. The reality is somewhat different. No one gets reformed in prison.




If R is found guilty then it's time for him to finally confront the issues (no more pay offs or avoiding the subject) that got him where he is and explain and cure his illness for underage girls.


Pedophiles are mentally ill. There IS no cure. Not even castration.


Prison retribution/pain/torture etc etc just creates whole new set of problems. Besides if anyone messes with him in jail it would be suicide because he'll always hold massive sway.



How so? R Kelly ain't no badass gang banger, he's a millionaire singer who likes to fuck underage girls. The first targets for rape and serious assault in prison are pedophiles and rapists. The fact that R Kelly is famous will probably make him an even bigger draw for the booty bandits. Sid Vicious got raped at Rikers, as did Tupac (allegedly).
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The rapper getting raped in jail is usually just used as a made up diss by rivals as a slight on their masculinity come release. DMX got the same.

For real though R. Kelly has at least as many contacts as any rapper out there and he'll be safe in jail trust that. An attacker wouldn't be safe in jail or out.
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Reply #38 posted 01/23/03 6:35am

DavidEye

In a lengthy article in GQ Magazine,it was revealed that,as a child,R. Kelly himself was molested by a man that lived down the street from him.
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Reply #39 posted 01/23/03 7:24am

stymie

DavidEye said:

In a lengthy article in GQ Magazine,it was revealed that,as a child,R. Kelly himself was molested by a man that lived down the street from him.
Hopefully, he will not use this as an excuse. I personally was a victim of sexual abuse for many years as a child. Not once could I even fathom doing that to someone else's child. I live in Chicago where this person is from, and happened to be listening to one of the local urban radio stations, WGCI. They seem to be determined to play his music(innocent until proven guilty), even after the videotape surfaced. Anyhow, they continue to play his music now, even with the pictures that have surfaced(go figure). I don't listen to this station but I wanted to hear what the people were going to say about this recent arrest. Some of the stupid, stupid women that called in said that the girl knew what she was doing and that pesron should not be blamed/not take all the blame. They also said they would continue to support his music. I wonder how they would feel if it were their own daughters. Would they fault her or that person? Anywho, that person going to jail would not even be an option had it happened to my kid. He would be dead, period and I'd gladly sit in jail for it.
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Reply #40 posted 01/23/03 7:54am

abierman

Essence said:



For real though R. Kelly has at least as many contacts as any rapper out there and he'll be safe in jail trust that. An attacker wouldn't be safe in jail or out.



I heard that all his contacts are abandoning him because of these allegations, no-one wants something to do with it!
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Reply #41 posted 01/23/03 8:33am

jthad1129

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DavidEye said:

In a lengthy article in GQ Magazine,it was revealed that,as a child,R. Kelly himself was molested by a man that lived down the street from him.



so, what is this, do unto others?
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Reply #42 posted 01/23/03 9:06am

nas3110

All I'm saying is nobody is born evil and something damaged him somewhere along the way.

God, THAT "I never had no love as a child" line of defence! Puh-lease! Sick is sick is sick is sick. Pedophiles are born not made.


Seems like he has gone through his life using money to buy silence and avoid confronting the problem. If he could learn to control the urges then he's no threat to society and could safely walk the streets.


You must be a paid-up fan. How do you control something you naturally gravitate to - as in think is perfectly normal.

To be frank, some fourteen year olds look much older (ask Bill Wyman of The Rolling Stones), and were it R Kelly's first and only "offence", then a good defence team could probably get him off (so to speak) with no more than damages and maybe a year in a sex addiction clinic. BUT R Kelly has always been at it with underage girls.

Do all the evil tortures and nasty minded retributions you all listed and he's liable (As anyone else would) to emerge angrier and more messed up than ever.


True. In which case you chuck him back inside.
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Reply #43 posted 01/23/03 9:08am

nas3110

stymie said:

DavidEye said:

In a lengthy article in GQ Magazine,it was revealed that,as a child,R. Kelly himself was molested by a man that lived down the street from him.
Hopefully, he will not use this as an excuse. I personally was a victim of sexual abuse for many years as a child. Not once could I even fathom doing that to someone else's child. I live in Chicago where this person is from, and happened to be listening to one of the local urban radio stations, WGCI. They seem to be determined to play his music(innocent until proven guilty), even after the videotape surfaced. Anyhow, they continue to play his music now, even with the pictures that have surfaced(go figure). I don't listen to this station but I wanted to hear what the people were going to say about this recent arrest. Some of the stupid, stupid women that called in said that the girl knew what she was doing and that pesron should not be blamed/not take all the blame. They also said they would continue to support his music. I wonder how they would feel if it were their own daughters. Would they fault her or that person? Anywho, that person going to jail would not even be an option had it happened to my kid. He would be dead, period and I'd gladly sit in jail for it.



You're absolutely right.
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Reply #44 posted 01/23/03 9:10am

nas3110

abierman said:

Essence said:



For real though R. Kelly has at least as many contacts as any rapper out there and he'll be safe in jail trust that. An attacker wouldn't be safe in jail or out.



I heard that all his contacts are abandoning him because of these allegations, no-one wants something to do with it!


True. Jay Z refused to promote "Best of Both Worlds" after the first arrest.
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Reply #45 posted 01/23/03 11:36am

Essence

stymie said:

DavidEye said:

In a lengthy article in GQ Magazine,it was revealed that,as a child,R. Kelly himself was molested by a man that lived down the street from him.
Hopefully, he will not use this as an excuse. I personally was a victim of sexual abuse for many years as a child. Not once could I even fathom doing that to someone else's child. I live in Chicago where this person is from, and happened to be listening to one of the local urban radio stations, WGCI. They seem to be determined to play his music(innocent until proven guilty), even after the videotape surfaced. Anyhow, they continue to play his music now, even with the pictures that have surfaced(go figure). I don't listen to this station but I wanted to hear what the people were going to say about this recent arrest. Some of the stupid, stupid women that called in said that the girl knew what she was doing and that pesron should not be blamed/not take all the blame. They also said they would continue to support his music. I wonder how they would feel if it were their own daughters. Would they fault her or that person? Anywho, that person going to jail would not even be an option had it happened to my kid. He would be dead, period and I'd gladly sit in jail for it.


With respect to your situation there's no rules here, it is very common that the abused go on to abuse. It's surely revenge for many inflicting what they suffered on another. It also may even become normal, exciting or acceptable to their damaged mindsets.

As for still playing him on the radio (His latest single "Ignition" hit #1 on R&B chart) well he hasn't been sentenced for anything so surely you can't go around as a vigilante shutting down the accused without benefit of a trial?

By the way, is the photo at following link a genuine still from the offending video? To me it looks fake like a porn film with R's head imposed on: http://clubs.yahoo.com/cl...pandhiphop
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Reply #46 posted 01/23/03 11:53am

Essence

nas3110 said:

To be frank, some fourteen year olds look much older (ask Bill Wyman of The Rolling Stones), and were it R Kelly's first and only "offence", then a good defence team could probably get him off (so to speak) with no more than damages and maybe a year in a sex addiction clinic. BUT R Kelly has always been at it with underage girls.


I agree, I think it's testiment to his illness that he always seems to be dealing with underage girls rather than searching out eighteen year olds who look younger etc. Surely he could travel to states or countries where young teens are legal also if he was serious about avoiding the law. The whole video, photograph, marrying Aaliyah things seem to suggest he was always going to get caught out and maybe sub-consciously wanted the help that would bring.
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Reply #47 posted 01/23/03 12:09pm

jbchavez

R Kelly is big in Chicago. "Ignition" remix is number one on the nightly countdown shows on two of the urban stations. "Step in the Name of Love" is played on all three urban stations in town.

The Fox station in Chicago is in trouble for a memo that was circulated outlining how to treat the story.

Fox does not want to offend Kelly, so to keep the exclusive interviews coming in.
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Reply #48 posted 01/23/03 12:48pm

mistermaxxx

DavidEye said:

In a lengthy article in GQ Magazine,it was revealed that,as a child,R. Kelly himself was molested by a man that lived down the street from him.
I read that same article as well.&His Stevie Wonder Influence on his Music.
mistermaxxx
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Reply #49 posted 01/23/03 12:49pm

mistermaxxx

nas3110 said:

DavidEye said:

nas3110 said:

mistermaxxx said:

Ithink R.Kelly needs some help&I also think He has too deal with His Urges in a manner that can get him some treatment.if you are a Parent you'd wanna beat the Hell out of Him.3 Meals,a Cot,Making Music on lockdown isn't gonna make up for things of this magnitude IMHO.Money can't bring back the lost innocence.I think Race plays a part in this that He is being held accountable for things that White Entertainers have done but aren't gotten after.I don't condone His Behavior at all but there is a double-standard&His Black Ass should know better.the sad part parents took His Money&stayed Quiet&if the Po-Po weren't trying too flip His case so much sadly stuff would have stayed quiet.no winners in this situation.


I don't think race comes into it. Name a few white entertainers who have recently been in high profile busts for having sex with minors, and who have gotten away with it?



Rob Lowe smile



I do retort, slightly.
John Derek got over tapping Bo Derek before She was 17&was wanted for it but guess what Happen? Not a DAMN thing.
mistermaxxx
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Reply #50 posted 01/23/03 1:26pm

nas3110

mistermaxxx said:

nas3110 said:

DavidEye said:

nas3110 said:

mistermaxxx said:

Ithink R.Kelly needs some help&I also think He has too deal with His Urges in a manner that can get him some treatment.if you are a Parent you'd wanna beat the Hell out of Him.3 Meals,a Cot,Making Music on lockdown isn't gonna make up for things of this magnitude IMHO.Money can't bring back the lost innocence.I think Race plays a part in this that He is being held accountable for things that White Entertainers have done but aren't gotten after.I don't condone His Behavior at all but there is a double-standard&His Black Ass should know better.the sad part parents took His Money&stayed Quiet&if the Po-Po weren't trying too flip His case so much sadly stuff would have stayed quiet.no winners in this situation.


I don't think race comes into it. Name a few white entertainers who have recently been in high profile busts for having sex with minors, and who have gotten away with it?



Rob Lowe smile



I do retort, slightly.
John Derek got over tapping Bo Derek before She was 17&was wanted for it but guess what Happen? Not a DAMN thing.



The operative word, you good people, was "recently" - as in within recent memory, as in freshly recollectable, down to the last pixel, as in two or three years ago. Rob Lowe did the naughty ten years ago, and John Derek hasn't done it for a while because he's dead and Bo's now in her fifties. But, as we're on the matter of white kiddie molestors and "recently" has the building, how about going all the way back to the 1950s and Jerry Lee Lewis. Married his thirteen year old cousin. He didn't go to prison but it created a major scandal. Career shot to shit. Not only was he white, but he was white from the still segregated South.
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Reply #51 posted 01/23/03 1:29pm

nas3110

By the way, is the photo at following link a genuine still from the offending video? To me it looks fake like a porn film with R's head imposed on: http://clubs.yahoo.com/cl...op[/quote]


Looks like him.
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Reply #52 posted 01/23/03 1:45pm

mistermaxxx

nas3110 said:

mistermaxxx said:

nas3110 said:

DavidEye said:

nas3110 said:

mistermaxxx said:

Ithink R.Kelly needs some help&I also think He has too deal with His Urges in a manner that can get him some treatment.if you are a Parent you'd wanna beat the Hell out of Him.3 Meals,a Cot,Making Music on lockdown isn't gonna make up for things of this magnitude IMHO.Money can't bring back the lost innocence.I think Race plays a part in this that He is being held accountable for things that White Entertainers have done but aren't gotten after.I don't condone His Behavior at all but there is a double-standard&His Black Ass should know better.the sad part parents took His Money&stayed Quiet&if the Po-Po weren't trying too flip His case so much sadly stuff would have stayed quiet.no winners in this situation.


I don't think race comes into it. Name a few white entertainers who have recently been in high profile busts for having sex with minors, and who have gotten away with it?



Rob Lowe smile



I do retort, slightly.
John Derek got over tapping Bo Derek before She was 17&was wanted for it but guess what Happen? Not a DAMN thing.



The operative word, you good people, was "recently" - as in within recent memory, as in freshly recollectable, down to the last pixel, as in two or three years ago. Rob Lowe did the naughty ten years ago, and John Derek hasn't done it for a while because he's dead and Bo's now in her fifties. But, as we're on the matter of white kiddie molestors and "recently" has the building, how about going all the way back to the 1950s and Jerry Lee Lewis. Married his thirteen year old cousin. He didn't go to prison but it created a major scandal. Career shot to shit. Not only was he white, but he was white from the still segregated South.
[This message was edited Thu Jan 23 13:28:01 PST 2003 by nas3110]
alright since you gotta be all technical:PEE WEE HERMAN.and they have had stuff on Him for a few years&He still gets some roles here&there.you just can't deal with Double-Standards.you probably one of those People that Got Black Culture from Prince.Jerry Lee Lewis didn't have a Career ender at all.He jsut didn't have the tunes too last longer IMHO.the Murder or alleged Murder in His Crib was even more harder on His Career but that ain't stopped Him from cashing in Checks.He had a Movie made about His Life.Chuck Berry had the same Issues with Young Girls&whatnot&He had too make His own Film.don't get me cooking on Double Standards In AMERIKKKA!
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Reply #53 posted 01/23/03 2:06pm

Essence

mistermaxxx said:

nas3110 said:

mistermaxxx said:

nas3110 said:

DavidEye said:

nas3110 said:

mistermaxxx said:

Ithink R.Kelly needs some help&I also think He has too deal with His Urges in a manner that can get him some treatment.if you are a Parent you'd wanna beat the Hell out of Him.3 Meals,a Cot,Making Music on lockdown isn't gonna make up for things of this magnitude IMHO.Money can't bring back the lost innocence.I think Race plays a part in this that He is being held accountable for things that White Entertainers have done but aren't gotten after.I don't condone His Behavior at all but there is a double-standard&His Black Ass should know better.the sad part parents took His Money&stayed Quiet&if the Po-Po weren't trying too flip His case so much sadly stuff would have stayed quiet.no winners in this situation.


I don't think race comes into it. Name a few white entertainers who have recently been in high profile busts for having sex with minors, and who have gotten away with it?



Rob Lowe smile



I do retort, slightly.
John Derek got over tapping Bo Derek before She was 17&was wanted for it but guess what Happen? Not a DAMN thing.



The operative word, you good people, was "recently" - as in within recent memory, as in freshly recollectable, down to the last pixel, as in two or three years ago. Rob Lowe did the naughty ten years ago, and John Derek hasn't done it for a while because he's dead and Bo's now in her fifties. But, as we're on the matter of white kiddie molestors and "recently" has the building, how about going all the way back to the 1950s and Jerry Lee Lewis. Married his thirteen year old cousin. He didn't go to prison but it created a major scandal. Career shot to shit. Not only was he white, but he was white from the still segregated South.
[This message was edited Thu Jan 23 13:28:01 PST 2003 by nas3110]
alright since you gotta be all technical:PEE WEE HERMAN.and they have had stuff on Him for a few years&He still gets some roles here&there.you just can't deal with Double-Standards.you probably one of those People that Got Black Culture from Prince.Jerry Lee Lewis didn't have a Career ender at all.He jsut didn't have the tunes too last longer IMHO.the Murder or alleged Murder in His Crib was even more harder on His Career but that ain't stopped Him from cashing in Checks.He had a Movie made about His Life.Chuck Berry had the same Issues with Young Girls&whatnot&He had too make His own Film.don't get me cooking on Double Standards In AMERIKKKA!


If R. Kelly's "thing" was for underage girls with blonde hair and blue eyes do you think this whole "scandal" would have been blown up before now? wink
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Reply #54 posted 01/23/03 2:09pm

Essence

http://www.mtv.com/bands/...ndex.jhtml

R. Kelly gives his side of story in full, uncensored interview.
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Reply #55 posted 01/23/03 2:47pm

mistermaxxx

Essence said:

mistermaxxx said:

nas3110 said:

mistermaxxx said:

nas3110 said:

DavidEye said:

nas3110 said:

mistermaxxx said:

Ithink R.Kelly needs some help&I also think He has too deal with His Urges in a manner that can get him some treatment.if you are a Parent you'd wanna beat the Hell out of Him.3 Meals,a Cot,Making Music on lockdown isn't gonna make up for things of this magnitude IMHO.Money can't bring back the lost innocence.I think Race plays a part in this that He is being held accountable for things that White Entertainers have done but aren't gotten after.I don't condone His Behavior at all but there is a double-standard&His Black Ass should know better.the sad part parents took His Money&stayed Quiet&if the Po-Po weren't trying too flip His case so much sadly stuff would have stayed quiet.no winners in this situation.


I don't think race comes into it. Name a few white entertainers who have recently been in high profile busts for having sex with minors, and who have gotten away with it?



Rob Lowe smile



I do retort, slightly.
John Derek got over tapping Bo Derek before She was 17&was wanted for it but guess what Happen? Not a DAMN thing.



The operative word, you good people, was "recently" - as in within recent memory, as in freshly recollectable, down to the last pixel, as in two or three years ago. Rob Lowe did the naughty ten years ago, and John Derek hasn't done it for a while because he's dead and Bo's now in her fifties. But, as we're on the matter of white kiddie molestors and "recently" has the building, how about going all the way back to the 1950s and Jerry Lee Lewis. Married his thirteen year old cousin. He didn't go to prison but it created a major scandal. Career shot to shit. Not only was he white, but he was white from the still segregated South.
[This message was edited Thu Jan 23 13:28:01 PST 2003 by nas3110]
alright since you gotta be all technical:PEE WEE HERMAN.and they have had stuff on Him for a few years&He still gets some roles here&there.you just can't deal with Double-Standards.you probably one of those People that Got Black Culture from Prince.Jerry Lee Lewis didn't have a Career ender at all.He jsut didn't have the tunes too last longer IMHO.the Murder or alleged Murder in His Crib was even more harder on His Career but that ain't stopped Him from cashing in Checks.He had a Movie made about His Life.Chuck Berry had the same Issues with Young Girls&whatnot&He had too make His own Film.don't get me cooking on Double Standards In AMERIKKKA!


If R. Kelly's "thing" was for underage girls with blonde hair and blue eyes do you think this whole "scandal" would have been blown up before now? wink
if He even looked in that direction His Ass would be Burried deeper than Jimmy Hoffa&Titanic Combined.
mistermaxxx
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Reply #56 posted 01/23/03 3:56pm

nas3110

mistermaxxx said:

nas3110 said:

mistermaxxx said:

nas3110 said:

DavidEye said:

nas3110 said:

mistermaxxx said:

Ithink R.Kelly needs some help&I also think He has too deal with His Urges in a manner that can get him some treatment.if you are a Parent you'd wanna beat the Hell out of Him.3 Meals,a Cot,Making Music on lockdown isn't gonna make up for things of this magnitude IMHO.Money can't bring back the lost innocence.I think Race plays a part in this that He is being held accountable for things that White Entertainers have done but aren't gotten after.I don't condone His Behavior at all but there is a double-standard&His Black Ass should know better.the sad part parents took His Money&stayed Quiet&if the Po-Po weren't trying too flip His case so much sadly stuff would have stayed quiet.no winners in this situation.


I don't think race comes into it. Name a few white entertainers who have recently been in high profile busts for having sex with minors, and who have gotten away with it?



Rob Lowe smile



I do retort, slightly.
John Derek got over tapping Bo Derek before She was 17&was wanted for it but guess what Happen? Not a DAMN thing.



The operative word, you good people, was "recently" - as in within recent memory, as in freshly recollectable, down to the last pixel, as in two or three years ago. Rob Lowe did the naughty ten years ago, and John Derek hasn't done it for a while because he's dead and Bo's now in her fifties. But, as we're on the matter of white kiddie molestors and "recently" has the building, how about going all the way back to the 1950s and Jerry Lee Lewis. Married his thirteen year old cousin. He didn't go to prison but it created a major scandal. Career shot to shit. Not only was he white, but he was white from the still segregated South.
[This message was edited Thu Jan 23 13:28:01 PST 2003 by nas3110]
alright since you gotta be all technical:PEE WEE HERMAN.and they have had stuff on Him for a few years&He still gets some roles here&there.you just can't deal with Double-Standards.you probably one of those People that Got Black Culture from Prince.Jerry Lee Lewis didn't have a Career ender at all.He jsut didn't have the tunes too last longer IMHO.the Murder or alleged Murder in His Crib was even more harder on His Career but that ain't stopped Him from cashing in Checks.He had a Movie made about His Life.Chuck Berry had the same Issues with Young Girls&whatnot&He had too make His own Film.don't get me cooking on Double Standards In AMERIKKKA!



Cooking? You sound like you're ready to blow! Why hold something like that back? Let it out.
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Reply #57 posted 01/23/03 4:05pm

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nas3110 said:[quote]

mistermaxxx said:

nas3110 said:

mistermaxxx said:

nas3110 said:

DavidEye said:

nas3110 said:

mistermaxxx said:

Ithink R.Kelly needs some help&I also think He has too deal with His Urges in a manner that can get him some treatment.if you are a Parent you'd wanna beat the Hell out of Him.3 Meals,a Cot,Making Music on lockdown isn't gonna make up for things of this magnitude IMHO.Money can't bring back the lost innocence.I think Race plays a part in this that He is being held accountable for things that White Entertainers have done but aren't gotten after.I don't condone His Behavior at all but there is a double-standard&His Black Ass should know better.the sad part parents took His Money&stayed Quiet&if the Po-Po weren't trying too flip His case so much sadly stuff would have stayed quiet.no winners in this situation.


I don't think race comes into it. Name a few white entertainers who have recently been in high profile busts for having sex with minors, and who have gotten away with it?



Rob Lowe smile



I do retort, slightly.
John Derek got over tapping Bo Derek before She was 17&was wanted for it but guess what Happen? Not a DAMN thing.



The operative word, you good people, was "recently" - as in within recent memory, as in freshly recollectable, down to the last pixel, as in two or three years ago. Rob Lowe did the naughty ten years ago, and John Derek hasn't done it for a while because he's dead and Bo's now in her fifties. But, as we're on the matter of white kiddie molestors and "recently" has the building, how about going all the way back to the 1950s and Jerry Lee Lewis. Married his thirteen year old cousin. He didn't go to prison but it created a major scandal. Career shot to shit. Not only was he white, but he was white from the still segregated South.
[This message was edited Thu Jan 23 13:28:01 PST 2003 by nas3110]
alright since you gotta be all technical:PEE WEE HERMAN.and they have had stuff on Him for a few years&He still gets some roles here&there.you just can't deal with Double-Standards.you probably one of those People that Got Black Culture from Prince.Jerry Lee Lewis didn't have a Career ender at all.He jsut didn't have the tunes too last longer IMHO.the Murder or alleged Murder in His Crib was even more harder on His Career but that ain't stopped Him from cashing in Checks.He had a Movie made about His Life.Chuck Berry had the same Issues with Young Girls&whatnot&He had too make His own Film.don't get me cooking on Double Standards In AMERIKKKA!


.

I see exactly where you're coming from with what you're saying, but what R Kelly has quite obviously done is an evil thing, irrespective of his colour.

And I'm not (sic) "one of those People that Got Black Culture from Prince". I'm black myself.
[This message was edited Thu Jan 23 16:08:47 PST 2003 by nas3110]
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Reply #58 posted 01/23/03 4:48pm

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nas3110 said:[quote]

nas3110 said:

mistermaxxx said:

nas3110 said:

mistermaxxx said:

nas3110 said:

DavidEye said:

nas3110 said:

mistermaxxx said:

Ithink R.Kelly needs some help&I also think He has too deal with His Urges in a manner that can get him some treatment.if you are a Parent you'd wanna beat the Hell out of Him.3 Meals,a Cot,Making Music on lockdown isn't gonna make up for things of this magnitude IMHO.Money can't bring back the lost innocence.I think Race plays a part in this that He is being held accountable for things that White Entertainers have done but aren't gotten after.I don't condone His Behavior at all but there is a double-standard&His Black Ass should know better.the sad part parents took His Money&stayed Quiet&if the Po-Po weren't trying too flip His case so much sadly stuff would have stayed quiet.no winners in this situation.


I don't think race comes into it. Name a few white entertainers who have recently been in high profile busts for having sex with minors, and who have gotten away with it?



Rob Lowe smile



I do retort, slightly.
John Derek got over tapping Bo Derek before She was 17&was wanted for it but guess what Happen? Not a DAMN thing.



The operative word, you good people, was "recently" - as in within recent memory, as in freshly recollectable, down to the last pixel, as in two or three years ago. Rob Lowe did the naughty ten years ago, and John Derek hasn't done it for a while because he's dead and Bo's now in her fifties. But, as we're on the matter of white kiddie molestors and "recently" has the building, how about going all the way back to the 1950s and Jerry Lee Lewis. Married his thirteen year old cousin. He didn't go to prison but it created a major scandal. Career shot to shit. Not only was he white, but he was white from the still segregated South.
[This message was edited Thu Jan 23 13:28:01 PST 2003 by nas3110]
alright since you gotta be all technical:PEE WEE HERMAN.and they have had stuff on Him for a few years&He still gets some roles here&there.you just can't deal with Double-Standards.you probably one of those People that Got Black Culture from Prince.Jerry Lee Lewis didn't have a Career ender at all.He jsut didn't have the tunes too last longer IMHO.the Murder or alleged Murder in His Crib was even more harder on His Career but that ain't stopped Him from cashing in Checks.He had a Movie made about His Life.Chuck Berry had the same Issues with Young Girls&whatnot&He had too make His own Film.don't get me cooking on Double Standards In AMERIKKKA!


.

I see exactly where you're coming from with what you're saying, but what R Kelly has quite obviously done is an evil thing, irrespective of his colour.

And I'm not (sic) "one of those People that Got Black Culture from Prince". I'm black myself.
[This message was edited Thu Jan 23 16:08:47 PST 2003 by nas3110]
He is too be Held Accountable.He has too make some changes in Life&deal with those demons.Cool
mistermaxxx
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