NastradumasKid said:

LOL! I know. I just want his opinion! LOL!

Timmy84 said:

Didn't create jack, amazing artist none the same. Maybe I should said that over over at Unpopular Opinions. I penciled in Ike' for ya.


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Timmy84 said:

Timmy84 you are very knowledgeable about music, for someone who JUST TURNED 26

Soooo, I am going to hijack this thread for a second and wish you a big HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY

I'd have started you a thread on GD but you NEVER go there so you'd NEVER see it.

TD3 said:

Thanks.

Timmy84 said:

" for my Mother"

daytonohioplayer said:

Oh okay. He could e-mail him...

donnyenglish said:

Dayton had a great Funk scene, beginning even earlier with groups like the Dayton Sidewinders. But the groups you mentioned above are second and third generation Funk artists ... they had nothing to do with the birth of Funk.

It's impossible to pinpoint the birth place of Funk. I think we can all agree that if there is one artist associated with the birth of Funk, that is James Brown.

Brown didn't record at only one place, and even though much of his early Funk records were cut at King in Cincinnati, they weren't written there. Most of Brown's music was developed while he was on the road, and by the time he recorded Cold Sweat, he had long left the Chitlin' Circuit and toured all over the U.S. But what I'd consider an important factor is that the musicians who Brown employed were mainly from the South, which would link Funk to the South.

But then again, one of the most important early Funk groups is Dyke and The Blazers, and they were from Phoenix, Arizona ... I also noticed that none of y'all mentioned New Orleans, which was a major hub in the early Funk days with labels like Soul International, Gator Records, etc and the productions of Willie Tee and Eddie Bo, The Meters etc.

Florida had a great Funk scene with labels like Drive, Alston and, later, Brownstone (the label collaboration by James Brown and Henry Stone). Kansas City had Forte records, Washington D.C. had Mantis and a ton of early Funk records came out of Virginia and the Carolinas.

The point is, Funk has no specific birth place. Between 1966 and 1970, when most Funk was recorded (contrary to the popular belief that Funk's heydey was the 1970s), hundreds, if not thousands of bands recorded Funk 45s all over the United States. and their sound was mainly inspired by James Brown. Their music was released on 45s only, through small independent labels (among the most important small Funk labels were Josie, Revue, Saadia, Shout, Brown Dog, Anla, Soul-Po-Tion, SSS International, True Soul, Virgo, Linco, Kris, Hep'Me, etc) Most of these labels lacked proper national distribution, and the songs released remained local hits. Funk was a deep underground phemomen, it was progressive, revolutionary and hip, and only few early Funk artists broke through into the mainstream (like James Brown and aforementioned Dyke & The Blazers), but never again there were as many Funk artists releasing records as in the years 1966 - 1970.

Groups like the ones DonnyEnglish mentioned above came much later, when Funk had been already embraced by the mainstream, when it had lost its edge and raw and untamed energy, when Funk became of interest to major labels and when it was, eventually, watered down.

Uh Pari, I mentioned the Meters like a few pages ago!

I think I mentioned Allen Toussaint but if not hey he's in there.

Timmy84 said:

Then I stand corrected.