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Reply #180 posted 04/22/10 6:14am

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Very similar to the death of Freddie Mercury in that, the day before his death a "statement" came out about him suffering from AIDS and admitting to the speculation of everyone, however YEARS later it was found that Freddie Never made any such statement nor wanted it known about his illness through a written admission like the one given.

I didn't know that. Sad when a person's confidence is betrayed in their death. I think even once a person is gone, what they didn't want revealed shouldn't be revealed, let people speculate all they want. A secret should be eternal.
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Reply #181 posted 04/22/10 9:56am

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DJ Premier Releases Statement On The Death of Guru

April 2l, 2010


In a statement issued Wednesday (April 21) on a DJ Premier fan blog that his manager had earlier told MTV News is legitimate, the Gang Starr DJ chose not to address the comments in the letter and instead remember his longtime collaborator:



"IT WAS A SAD DAY FOR ME TO GET CONFIRMATION ON THE DEATH OF A MAN WHO I WILL CONTINUE TO CALL MY BROTHER, KEITH ELAM, BETTER KNOWN AS GURU OF THE LEGENDARY GANG STARR.

FROM 1988-2004, WE EXPERIENCED SO MUCH SUCCESS TOGETHER THAT WE WERE ABLE TO EXPAND OUR BUSINESSES INDEPENDENTLY AND GIVE EACH OTHER WHAT GURU CALLED “CREATIVE SPACE”, BEFORE PLANNING TO REUNITE FOR OUR 7TH LP WHEN THE TIME WAS RIGHT. TRAGICALLY, WE WILL NEVER REACH THAT DAY.

I’VE BEEN ASKED TO COMMENT ON A LETTER SPEAKING ILL OF ME WHICH WAS SUPPOSEDLY WRITTEN BY GURU IN HIS DYING DAYS. ALL I WILL SAY ABOUT IT IS THAT OUR TIME TOGETHER WAS BEAUTIFUL, WE BUILT A HIP HOP LEGACY TOGETHER, AND NO ONE CAN RE-WRITE HISTORY OR TAKE AWAY MY LOVE FOR HIM. ONE THING I WOULD NEVER DO IS PLAY AROUND WITH THE TRUTH ABOUT HIS LIFE.

I WILL CELEBRATE GURU’S LIFE… I WILL HONOR HIS MEMORY… I WILL GRIEVE WITH THE ELAM FAMILY OVER HIS UNTIMELY DEATH… I WILL REMEMBER THE GANG STARR FOUNDATION AND ALL OF THE ORIGINAL MEMBERS OF GANG STARR WHO CAME BEFORE ME – WE ALL KNOW EACH OTHER… MOSTLY, I WILL CHERISH EVERYTHING WE CREATED TOGETHER AS GANG STARR, FOREVER. I’M GONNA MISS HEARING HIS SIGNATURE MONOTONE VOICE WHEN HE WALKS IN THE ROOM, BUT THE SONGS WILL ALWAYS BRING IT BACK TO ME….HIS RHYME FLOWS WERE INSANE, AND I WILL NEVER REMOVE HIM FROM MY HEART AND SOUL…….REST IN PEACE TO THE MAN WHO FELT “SATISFACTION FROM THE STREET CROWD REACTION” … I LOVE YOU GOO……".DJ PREMIER


http://www.mtv.com/news/a...tarr.jhtml
[Edited 4/21/10 20:03pm]


bawl clapping thumbs up! Primo showed true class with this statement.

since i don't smoke or drink, imma crack open a pepsi in memory sun rose tombstone

"The D.J's name is Premier, & I'm The Guru" music dancing jig
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Reply #182 posted 04/22/10 9:58am

NastradumasKid

RipTheJacker said:

Identity said:





DJ Premier Releases Statement On The Death of Guru

April 2l, 2010


In a statement issued Wednesday (April 21) on a DJ Premier fan blog that his manager had earlier told MTV News is legitimate, the Gang Starr DJ chose not to address the comments in the letter and instead remember his longtime collaborator:



"IT WAS A SAD DAY FOR ME TO GET CONFIRMATION ON THE DEATH OF A MAN WHO I WILL CONTINUE TO CALL MY BROTHER, KEITH ELAM, BETTER KNOWN AS GURU OF THE LEGENDARY GANG STARR.

FROM 1988-2004, WE EXPERIENCED SO MUCH SUCCESS TOGETHER THAT WE WERE ABLE TO EXPAND OUR BUSINESSES INDEPENDENTLY AND GIVE EACH OTHER WHAT GURU CALLED “CREATIVE SPACE”, BEFORE PLANNING TO REUNITE FOR OUR 7TH LP WHEN THE TIME WAS RIGHT. TRAGICALLY, WE WILL NEVER REACH THAT DAY.

I’VE BEEN ASKED TO COMMENT ON A LETTER SPEAKING ILL OF ME WHICH WAS SUPPOSEDLY WRITTEN BY GURU IN HIS DYING DAYS. ALL I WILL SAY ABOUT IT IS THAT OUR TIME TOGETHER WAS BEAUTIFUL, WE BUILT A HIP HOP LEGACY TOGETHER, AND NO ONE CAN RE-WRITE HISTORY OR TAKE AWAY MY LOVE FOR HIM. ONE THING I WOULD NEVER DO IS PLAY AROUND WITH THE TRUTH ABOUT HIS LIFE.

I WILL CELEBRATE GURU’S LIFE… I WILL HONOR HIS MEMORY… I WILL GRIEVE WITH THE ELAM FAMILY OVER HIS UNTIMELY DEATH… I WILL REMEMBER THE GANG STARR FOUNDATION AND ALL OF THE ORIGINAL MEMBERS OF GANG STARR WHO CAME BEFORE ME – WE ALL KNOW EACH OTHER… MOSTLY, I WILL CHERISH EVERYTHING WE CREATED TOGETHER AS GANG STARR, FOREVER. I’M GONNA MISS HEARING HIS SIGNATURE MONOTONE VOICE WHEN HE WALKS IN THE ROOM, BUT THE SONGS WILL ALWAYS BRING IT BACK TO ME….HIS RHYME FLOWS WERE INSANE, AND I WILL NEVER REMOVE HIM FROM MY HEART AND SOUL…….REST IN PEACE TO THE MAN WHO FELT “SATISFACTION FROM THE STREET CROWD REACTION” … I LOVE YOU GOO……".DJ PREMIER


http://www.mtv.com/news/a...tarr.jhtml
[Edited 4/21/10 20:03pm]


bawl clapping thumbs up! Primo showed true class with this statement.

since i don't smoke or drink, imma crack open a pepsi in memory sun rose tombstone

"The D.J's name is Premier, & I'm The Guru" music dancing jig



I seriously want to know what else is gonna happen...
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Reply #183 posted 04/22/10 10:16am

RipTheJacker

NastradumasKid said:

RipTheJacker said:



bawl clapping thumbs up! Primo showed true class with this statement.

since i don't smoke or drink, imma crack open a pepsi in memory sun rose tombstone

"The D.J's name is Premier, & I'm The Guru" music dancing jig



I seriously want to know what else is gonna happen...


there's no telling....probably as time goes on we might see more music come out
from the Gangstarr sessions..outtakes and such. from "No More Mr. Nice Guy" (and possibly BEFORE), to "The Ownerz", it wouldn't suprise me. cool
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Reply #184 posted 04/22/10 10:24am

NastradumasKid

RipTheJacker said:

NastradumasKid said:




I seriously want to know what else is gonna happen...


there's no telling....probably as time goes on we might see more music come out
from the Gangstarr sessions..outtakes and such. from "No More Mr. Nice Guy" (and possibly BEFORE), to "The Ownerz", it wouldn't suprise me. cool



Okay, but I really meant in terms of this Solar dude and that letter...
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Reply #185 posted 04/22/10 10:56am

RipTheJacker

NastradumasKid said:

RipTheJacker said:



there's no telling....probably as time goes on we might see more music come out
from the Gangstarr sessions..outtakes and such. from "No More Mr. Nice Guy" (and possibly BEFORE), to "The Ownerz", it wouldn't suprise me. cool



Okay, but I really meant in terms of this Solar dude and that letter...


oh that's what you meant.my bad
your guess is as good as mine on that one. the truth will come out in due time.
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Reply #186 posted 04/22/10 11:02am

NastradumasKid

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NastradumasKid said:




Okay, but I really meant in terms of this Solar dude and that letter...


oh that's what you meant.my bad
your guess is as good as mine on that one. the truth will come out in due time.


lol That's okay, well, I'm just gonna keep hoping...
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Reply #187 posted 04/22/10 11:17am

Cinnie

I didn't see this anywhere on the thread yet.

Video: MTV News’ Sway Interviews Solar

Sway sat down with Solar and asked him about the nature of his relationship with Guru, and if he ever physically abused him.

After the jump, Sway questions the legitimacy of the letter. He brings up the family’s statement and they discuss the charity organization as well as Guru’s relationship with his family. Then he’s asked about Guru’s last days and finally, how they found out he was sick and why his family wasn’t informed.
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Reply #188 posted 04/22/10 11:19am

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I didn't see this anywhere on the thread yet.

Video: MTV News’ Sway Interviews Solar

Sway sat down with Solar and asked him about the nature of his relationship with Guru, and if he ever physically abused him.

After the jump, Sway questions the legitimacy of the letter. He brings up the family’s statement and they discuss the charity organization as well as Guru’s relationship with his family. Then he’s asked about Guru’s last days and finally, how they found out he was sick and why his family wasn’t informed.


It sounds almost if as they were lovers. spit Oh God...I'll leave it alone.
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Reply #189 posted 04/22/10 11:29am

Cinnie

NastradumasKid said:

Cinnie said:

I didn't see this anywhere on the thread yet.

Video: MTV News’ Sway Interviews Solar

Sway sat down with Solar and asked him about the nature of his relationship with Guru, and if he ever physically abused him.

After the jump, Sway questions the legitimacy of the letter. He brings up the family’s statement and they discuss the charity organization as well as Guru’s relationship with his family. Then he’s asked about Guru’s last days and finally, how they found out he was sick and why his family wasn’t informed.


It sounds almost if as they were lovers. spit Oh God...I'll leave it alone.


That's exactly what Sway is asking and I'm glad SOMEONE did. You should watch it. It brought me the most clarification to all the questions this week.
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Reply #190 posted 04/22/10 11:33am

NastradumasKid

Cinnie said:

NastradumasKid said:



It sounds almost if as they were lovers. spit Oh God...I'll leave it alone.


That's exactly what Sway is asking and I'm glad SOMEONE did. You should watch it. It brought me the most clarification to all the questions this week.



spit
I tried to, but it won't load. pout I wonder...do they post MTV stuff on Youtube? But tell me what happened!
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Reply #191 posted 04/22/10 11:40am

Cinnie

NastradumasKid said:

Cinnie said:



That's exactly what Sway is asking and I'm glad SOMEONE did. You should watch it. It brought me the most clarification to all the questions this week.



spit
I tried to, but it won't load. pout I wonder...do they post MTV stuff on Youtube? But tell me what happened!


This is on vodpod.com which i don't know is a safe site?
It's only the first of like 4 videos that are on that mtv site, but it is the one you wanna see prolly.

http://vodpod.com/watch/3...iews-solar
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Reply #192 posted 04/22/10 11:48am

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NastradumasKid said:

Cinnie said:

I didn't see this anywhere on the thread yet.

Video: MTV News’ Sway Interviews Solar

Sway sat down with Solar and asked him about the nature of his relationship with Guru, and if he ever physically abused him.

After the jump, Sway questions the legitimacy of the letter. He brings up the family’s statement and they discuss the charity organization as well as Guru’s relationship with his family. Then he’s asked about Guru’s last days and finally, how they found out he was sick and why his family wasn’t informed.


It sounds almost if as they were lovers. spit Oh God...I'll leave it alone.



Almost but not quite. Solar has a WIFE. He and that stank bitch misrepresented themselves as Guru's brother and sister in order to get the Health Proxy that barred his REAL family from the seeing him. Unless he'd convinced Guru to give him his Power of Attorney, which I don't think he had or they wouldn't have had to misrepresent who they were, their stupid asses are going to end up in jail. Since Solar right about now is the most HATED person in the Hip Hop community, solitary confinement might not be such a bad place to hide out.



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Reply #193 posted 04/22/10 11:50am

NastradumasKid

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

NastradumasKid said:



It sounds almost if as they were lovers. spit Oh God...I'll leave it alone.



Almost but not quite. Solar has a WIFE. He and that stank bitch misrepresented themselves as Guru's brother and sister in order to get the Health Proxy that barred his REAL family from the seeing him. Unless he'd convinced Guru to give him his Power of Attorney, which I don't think he had or they wouldn't have had to misrepresent who they were, their stupid asses are going to end up in jail. Since Solar right about now is the most HATED person in the Hip Hop community, solitary confinement might not be such a bad place to hide out.





Yeah, I already watch those two videos the other day in fact I posted those videos on here lol I guess yall didn;t pay attention. falloff but even if he had a wife, that sometimes doesn't mean anything but yeah they're dumb as hell.
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Reply #194 posted 04/22/10 11:52am

RipTheJacker

Cinnie said:

NastradumasKid said:



It sounds almost if as they were lovers. spit Oh God...I'll leave it alone.


That's exactly what Sway is asking and I'm glad SOMEONE did. You should watch it. It brought me the most clarification to all the questions this week.



i don't trust what this solar cat is sayin' shake nope
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Reply #195 posted 04/22/10 12:14pm

NastradumasKid

RipTheJacker said:

Cinnie said:



That's exactly what Sway is asking and I'm glad SOMEONE did. You should watch it. It brought me the most clarification to all the questions this week.



i don't trust what this solar cat is sayin' shake nope



I had to stop watching it for a second, man Sway had me laughing about the relationship, thing. spit
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Reply #196 posted 04/22/10 12:20pm

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NastradumasKid said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:



Almost but not quite. Solar has a WIFE. He and that stank bitch misrepresented themselves as Guru's brother and sister in order to get the Health Proxy that barred his REAL family from the seeing him. Unless he'd convinced Guru to give him his Power of Attorney, which I don't think he had or they wouldn't have had to misrepresent who they were, their stupid asses are going to end up in jail. Since Solar right about now is the most HATED person in the Hip Hop community, solitary confinement might not be such a bad place to hide out.



Yeah, I already watch those two videos the other day in fact I posted those videos on here lol I guess yall didn;t pay attention. falloff but even if he had a wife, that sometimes doesn't mean anything but yeah they're dumb as hell.
[Edited 4/22/10 11:52am]



Ahh, so you did. Yep, I missed them. lol

I don't think they were lovers. Solar is just a lying, conniving ass snake who probably put that partner shit in there the way that he did on purpose so that people would think they were lovers and Guru's family was just trippin' out on him because of it. In the MTV videos, he says there were no problems between Guru and his family with the exception being his sister Trish. So why they hell wouldn't he allow anyone else to see Guru?

When Justin (Guru's nephew) finally got to see him, Solar tried to convince him that he was so heavily sedated that it made him just look like he was still in a coma. hmm

There's something wrong about that man and it just fucked his plans up that damn near not a soul believed that bullshitting ass letter!
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Reply #197 posted 04/22/10 12:26pm

NastradumasKid

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NastradumasKid said:



Yeah, I already watch those two videos the other day in fact I posted those videos on here lol I guess yall didn;t pay attention. falloff but even if he had a wife, that sometimes doesn't mean anything but yeah they're dumb as hell.
[Edited 4/22/10 11:52am]



Ahh, so you did. Yep, I missed them. lol

I don't think they were lovers. Solar is just a lying, conniving ass snake who probably put that partner shit in there the way that he did on purpose so that people would think they were lovers and Guru's family was just trippin' out on him because of it. In the MTV videos, he says there were no problems between Guru and his family with the exception being his sister Trish. So why they hell wouldn't he allow anyone else to see Guru?

When Justin (Guru's nephew) finally got to see him, Solar tried to convince him that he was so heavily sedated that it made him just look like he was still in a coma. hmm

There's something wrong about that man and it just fucked his plans up that damn near not a soul believed that bullshitting ass letter!



Me too, this shit just sounds too weird, I think SOlar is trying to plan some shit...I think needs to be in prison. lol lol
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Reply #198 posted 04/22/10 12:29pm

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spit Ya'll killing me with all the speculation about someone and a situation you know nothing about. LOTS of people are estranged from friends and family and do not hesitate to say so when death is knocking to make it clear that they are still mad at them. And it is also quite common for family members to come out of the woodwork after a famous/wealthy person dies acting as if everything was cool knowing full well they weren't close for years. There is nothing new or unique about any of this but I'll let ya'll carry on. rolleyes
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Reply #199 posted 04/22/10 12:32pm

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spit Ya'll killing me with all the speculation about someone and a situation you know nothing about. LOTS of people are estranged from friends and family and do not hesitate to say so when death is knocking to make it clear that they are still mad at them. And it is also quite common for family members to come out of the woodwork after a famous/wealthy person dies acting as if everything was cool knowing full well they weren't close for years. There is nothing new or unique about any of this but I'll let ya'll carry on. rolleyes



True, but the nephew made this video weeks ago...it's not like dude was coming out all of the sudden... shrug
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Reply #200 posted 04/22/10 12:41pm

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NastradumasKid said:

SCNDLS said:

spit Ya'll killing me with all the speculation about someone and a situation you know nothing about. LOTS of people are estranged from friends and family and do not hesitate to say so when death is knocking to make it clear that they are still mad at them. And it is also quite common for family members to come out of the woodwork after a famous/wealthy person dies acting as if everything was cool knowing full well they weren't close for years. There is nothing new or unique about any of this but I'll let ya'll carry on. rolleyes



True, but the nephew made this video weeks ago...it's not like dude was coming out all of the sudden... shrug

Death was still imminent when he released that video. My point is, this estrangement wasn't new and his family wasn't present because KEITH didn't want them there. I met Keith in the summer of '92 and communicated with him and saw him regularly for over 10 years. I know he wasn't anybody's puppet and, right or wrong, he made his own decisions for his own reasons. If he was the least bit lucid in the last few months of his hospitalization, I believe things went down the way HE wanted them to. And that's not an opinion based on online gossip and chatter.
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Reply #201 posted 04/22/10 1:25pm

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SCNDLS said:

spit Ya'll killing me with all the speculation about someone and a situation you know nothing about. LOTS of people are estranged from friends and family and do not hesitate to say so when death is knocking to make it clear that they are still mad at them. And it is also quite common for family members to come out of the woodwork after a famous/wealthy person dies acting as if everything was cool knowing full well they weren't close for years. There is nothing new or unique about any of this but I'll let ya'll carry on. rolleyes



All that may be true, just as LOTS of people prey on the sick, cut them off from their families so that they are dependent upon them, manipulate situations to their own advantage, make sure there are no reconciliations between estranged family and friends, and get themselves made sole beneficiaries of any fortune, insurance and foundations. There is nothing new nor unique about that either.

No, I didn't know Guru personally as you say you did so I don't know about him other than what I learned of him through his music but I do know when something just doesn't seem right to me and something just doesn't seem right to me about Solar and since this is a discussion board, we're discussing it.

If that offends you, perhaps you should leave this particular thread alone because you may be too emotionally involved to handle it.
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Reply #202 posted 04/22/10 1:31pm

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SCNDLS said:

spit Ya'll killing me with all the speculation about someone and a situation you know nothing about. LOTS of people are estranged from friends and family and do not hesitate to say so when death is knocking to make it clear that they are still mad at them. And it is also quite common for family members to come out of the woodwork after a famous/wealthy person dies acting as if everything was cool knowing full well they weren't close for years. There is nothing new or unique about any of this but I'll let ya'll carry on. rolleyes



All that may be true, just as LOTS of people prey on the sick, cut them off from their families so that they are dependent upon them, manipulate situations to their own advantage, make sure there are no reconciliations between estranged family and friends, and get themselves made sole beneficiaries of any fortune, insurance and foundations. There is nothing new nor unique about that either.

No, I didn't know Guru personally as you say you did so I don't know about him other than what I learned of him through his music but I do know when something just doesn't seem right to me and something just doesn't seem right to me about Solar and since this is a discussion board, we're discussing it.

If that offends you, perhaps you should leave this particular thread alone because you may be too emotionally involved to handle it.

rolleyes Who said I was offended? And my emotions are quite fine. Just laughing at the extraness of your commentary and your penchant for overly dramatic ASSumptions. Same ol', same ol. yawn
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Reply #203 posted 04/22/10 1:51pm

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SCNDLS said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:




All that may be true, just as LOTS of people prey on the sick, cut them off from their families so that they are dependent upon them, manipulate situations to their own advantage, make sure there are no reconciliations between estranged family and friends, and get themselves made sole beneficiaries of any fortune, insurance and foundations. There is nothing new nor unique about that either.

No, I didn't know Guru personally as you say you did so I don't know about him other than what I learned of him through his music but I do know when something just doesn't seem right to me and something just doesn't seem right to me about Solar and since this is a discussion board, we're discussing it.

If that offends you, perhaps you should leave this particular thread alone because you may be too emotionally involved to handle it.

rolleyes Who said I was offended? And my emotions are quite fine. Just laughing at the extraness of your commentary and your penchant for overly dramatic ASSumptions. Same ol', same ol. yawn
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Your attitude is saying it for you. I was actually trying to be considerate of you because my "penchant for overly dramatic ASSumptions" had me thinking that you may have actually cared for and/or had feelings for the man since you "KNOW for a FACT" that he wasn't gay and all that...my bad! rolleyes
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Reply #204 posted 04/22/10 5:50pm

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simmer down, y'all, simmer down.

let somebody have some respect for the dude since it appears he won't be resting in peace for a good while....

have some of what Snoop's having *puff, puff, pass*
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Reply #205 posted 04/23/10 8:58am

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According to DJ Scratch's Twitter page. Guru was cremated yesterday.



http://twitter.com/djscratch

There's been no further word yet on, when or if there will be a public memorial. I'm sure his family has enough to deal with at this very trying time than to be concerned with that.

My hope is that others in the Hip Hop community who say they loved Guru will take it upon themselves and put together something that truly honors his legacy.
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Reply #206 posted 04/23/10 11:35am

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Reply #207 posted 04/23/10 11:52am

Cinnie

By the way, this thread made me realize there ARE real fans of hip hop on the org! whew
I felt better about making a thread about my album. lurking
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Reply #208 posted 04/23/10 12:23pm

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NastradumasKid said:

RipTheJacker said:



there's no telling....probably as time goes on we might see more music come out
from the Gangstarr sessions..outtakes and such. from "No More Mr. Nice Guy" (and possibly BEFORE), to "The Ownerz", it wouldn't suprise me. cool



Okay, but I really meant in terms of this Solar dude and that letter...



I predict either a lawsuit or an ass whuppin'.
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Reply #209 posted 04/23/10 12:24pm

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Whose idea was it to cremate him? neutral
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