Innocent as charged or guilty as hell?

You can have suspicions but innocent and guilty is for the law courts who get all the story.

If he get's the opportunity I'm sure he'll use money to settle it before things go too far anyway.

Apparently the "Chocolate Factory" album has been put back to March now. Originally December, then January, then February. When does the trial start? You'd think he'd release it before all the grizzly evidence came out...

Is it possible to settle it with money? He's been trialed in a criminal court. If there's eveidence it doesn't matter how much money he can give the "victims".

Ellie said:

Like I said "If he get's the opportunity...", I'm not sure on the case details.

He is guilty but because he is a rich,famous celebrity,he will hire some great lawyers and get a slap on the risk.

None of ya'll have the power 2 decide whether he's innocent or guilty.

That God's jop and he will judge him and us 4 our mistakes.

Case closed!

Harlepolis said:

So,are you saying they should just let him remain free,and wait for Judgement Day where God will decide if he is innocent or guilty? I think the video pretty much says it all,and there are many other young girls who were "paid off" by R.Kelly.

DavidEye said:

I don't follow the crowd and I also don't like the man at all. Yes, I've seen the video and I have mixed feelings about it.

If thats really him? Then the blame should be on him but not ALONE, I blame the ladies who had no problem when it comes to saying YES and 4 the most part I blame their families 4 that too.

Hell,,everyday there's an under age lady having sex and I don't see none of ya'll say anything about it.

PPl are just all up on his face becoz like you said he's "rich, famous and a celebrity" many ppl out there do the same shit and even more but they get away with it and I sho don't see others give a damn about the damages they caused. What make them different than R.Kelly?

Harlepolis said:

It doesn't mean that he shouldn't do time for what he did. If he wasn't "rich, famous and a celebrity", would those girls have been going up to his crib on their own?

nas3110 said:

Still the blame shouldn't be on him alone

Harlepolis said:

I do..I saw the tape at the barber shop.

rdhull said:

Me too(at my girl's house).

What I'm saying is, if you're willing to judge R.Kelly then you might as well judge every mofo who's putting his stick in them young ladies.

Lock him up and throw the key into the ocean before some parent decides it's better to blow his brains out.

Harlepolis said:

Who says I wouldn't judge them as well if I know about it..and I never siad if Arra was or wasn't guilty

rdhull said:

I wasn't talkin about you I was talking about the idea in general.

BTW I see them fellas who do that all the time and I don't see ppl doing anything to them. Thats what I ment.

Harlepolis said:

Oh...and yeah I agree

Supernova said:

I wonder why this hasn't happened to him yet
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guilty, but as Harlepois said, it is the girls' fault too. I mean, being young doesn't mean not having common sense.

I said this Before&I'll say this again:it's one of the Music Industry's Most Open Seceret's for Years.ain't nobody shocked it's just that it's coming with Video Tape.the same Poeple that dug His work before will still Buy His Stuff.ain't none of the Parent's involved gonna trip because sadd too say this will kinda die out.He is a Big Artist but not so big that it will matter in the long run.if people were so tripping on Him then He would have been done back when he was messing with Aaliyah?we still talking about this some 8 years later&while He will face some damage too His Crediblity the Cat will still come out of this not touched much overall.I don't Condone the Behavior at all but I doubt seriously He will be Broken down by this.as a matter of fact B2k's Song "Bump'Bump" or whatever that Junk is called is riding high on the charts&a top 10&it was Written&produced by the Prolific R.Kelly so He ain't fallen off any time soon."ignition" is doing well also.

Still the blame shouldn't be on him alone[/quote]

Why not? Let me see - yes, those girls probably knew exactly what they were doing, and yes, in his defence, you could argue that if they didn't like it they should have split and told their parents. But that's not the point. Sex with minors is illegal. Child porn isn't just illegal, it's a). hideous and b). perpetrated by mentally ill people who really don't deserve to live. R. Kelly deserves the maximum penalty.

If he's guilty, he has a serious problem and needs psychiatric evaluation...

These young girls do not have the cognitive ability to understand they are being exploited etc! What the fuck? How can anyone say its the girls fault as well? This is akin to giving women blame for getting raped when there is none. These young girls barely know right from wrong but a grown ass man does! Money and fame etc to take advantage of that naivete' of them to boot!Regardless of if it was Kelly or otherwise.

I saw the tape and he is guilty. I don't care it that child sucked his dick like a damn professional cocksucker. She may have understood what she was doing but He is an adult and she is underage. This is about personal responsiblity.

Lord forgive for my blunt words.

Bottomline: he's guilty and needs to be punished and get some serious help

Rhondab said:

The truth HAS to be blunt sometimes.

Rhondab said:

I couldn't agree with you more (see my previous posts). I haven't seen the tape (and frankly don't want to), but R Kelly's latest line of defence is that it was his brother on the tape, not him. His brother's denying it, of course. Now, I assume R Kelly is paying his lawyers a ton of cash to keep him out of the booty bandit house, but if that is the strength of his defence he is in serious trouble. Remember when you were a kid and got into trouble and made out you had an identical twin brother who did it? That is some lame-ass excuse he should have outgrown when he was eight.

I didn't have too see the Tape to already know what is up with R.Kelly but I doubt seriously it will stop his Career.the cat still will Sell.Aaliyah alone remember they were Married when She was 15 but ain't nobody see anything?

nas3110 said:

The whole culture had grown more and more pedophilic... Jon Benet Ramsey, B2K (what is a 10 yr old nukka doin with washboard abs?--RD shaddup! ), R Kelley, Lil Bow Wow, and the list goes on with examples of adults holla'in at lil chirren introducin them to isht that their bodies maybe (at younger and younger ages it seems) able to do but their emotional maturity can't handle that.

Why are grown ass women throwin their panties at lil boys on stage who prolly cant even bust a nut yet? WTF is THAT about? Why did I see parents line their lil girls up in hoochiemama gear to meet B2K when they did an autograph signing at the local wreckastow? WTF is THAT about?

Every message on tv, fashion, music is tellin younger and younger chirren that Barbie should be fuckin. Have you seen the collectors edition of Barbie in lingerie? WTF is THAT about?

R Kelly sho look like the man that was in that tape. And the shit that he was doin was just nasty to me, regardless of ages involved (peein on people? what da eff??!). Havin girls stick their finger up his azz? I mean please. That shit is just plain ol nastee.

He sure seems pretty guilty to me. But we got a glass house now. Folks gotta be consistent and address this larger pedophilic trend while they condemnin him otherwise he's just the scapegoat we're using to act like all else is well and good.

NuPwrSoul said:

So, what are you saying? That he should get acquitted because that's the culture we live in? Puh-lease! Guilty is guilty. Throw his ass in jail. I'm sure he's got a lot of young fans in there, waiting to do unto him as he has fourteen year olds.
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