Michael was always working on an album or two or three. He never stopped. It's just that he wasn't releasing any because, as we know, he was a perfectionist so there could be a lot of works he did over the years that we still haven't heard.

Timmy84 said:

and wanted every project to be like an event and for it to grow

Harlepolis said:

I forgot to add that They Don't Care About Us was originally written and recorded in '89 during the Dangerous sessions

They Don't Care About Us and Earth Song were originally from the Dangerous sessions, Come Together was from 1985 (but remixed), Little Susie was written in 1979.....

Damn, I really have done my research!

SoulAlive said:

I keep hearing that the mix we have is from a later date, possibly from 1980 or 1981...or even '82

bboy87 said:

Wasn't come Together featured in Moonwalker? SAME mix.

Harlepolis said:

I forgot to add that They Don't Care About Us was originally written and recorded in '89 during the Dangerous sessions

They Don't Care About Us and Earth Song were originally from the Dangerous sessions, Come Together was from 1985 (but remixed), Little Susie was written in 1979.....

Damn, I really have done my research!

bboy87 said:

I heard that Sunset Driver was actually an outtake from the Destiny album.

bboy87 said:

And Blood On the dance floor? I think Its an outtake from DANGEROUS.

ViintageJunkiie said:

It didn't sound like it was recorded in the '70s. It sounded around 1980, '81, '82-ish I always thought it was a Thriller outtake.

bboy87 said:

Wasn't come Together featured in Moonwalker? SAME mix.

bboy87 said:

And Blood On the dance floor? I think Its an outtake from DANGEROUS.

seeingvoices12 said:

Recorded in 1991 but then redone. Is It Scary and Ghosts are from 1992 or 1993

bboy87 said:

Really Interesting!

It only proves that Mj never stops recording music, I'm interested in the songs he recorded 2006- early 2009 , we don't have any Information during that period.

Timmy84 said:

I used to think it was a Thriller outtake, but I think it could possibly be Destiny/OTW/Triumph era.

ViintageJunkiie said:

I think it definitely sounds like a late 70s recording,probably for 'Destiny' or 'Off The Wall'.

ViintageJunkiie said:

I think it definitely sounds like a late 70s recording,probably for 'Destiny' or 'Off The Wall'.

SoulAlive said:

I doubt it, comparing their sounds, it sounds early 1980s-ish.

SoulAlive said:

I'm really starting to think that particular mix is from 1980-82

The Ultimate Collection's booklet does state it was from 1982...but then again, that booklet has LOADS of typos

Timmy84 said:

Nah,it definitely sounds like it's from the late 70s Sounds alot like the OTW material.


bboy,can you investigate this song for us?? When exactly was it recorded?

Harlepolis said:

AND Cheater was recorded at his house

I've wondered why Monkey Business got shelved. It was supposed to be the lead single for Dangerous but as the album progressed, Black Or White replaced it. Looking back, I can see it being released, but not on Dangerous. It's like every song fits, even Heal The World, which I've hated since I first heard it when I was 5

not to mention, he would work on a song, put it away, and then take it out and work on it again, as was the case for

Little Susie (written in '79 while he was writing Heartbreak Hotel and Lovely One, but not released until '95)

Earth Song (written in '88 for Dangerous)

Dirty Diana (written in '83 for possibly Victory)

Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' was for Off The Wall, Liberian Girl was for Victory, Streetwalker was for either Bad or a Broadway play he was writing

and then I found out that This Is It and Love Never Felt So Good was planned for a MJ/Paul Anka collaboration album AND he had done an album of classical inspired songs after he did Off The Wall.....

Timmy84 said:

Nah,it definitely sounds like it's from the late 70s Sounds alot like the OTW material.


bboy,can you investigate this song for us?? When exactly was it recorded?

OK,I was wrong

SoulAlive said:

I've been doing that

I think I'm gonna REALLY investigate it when my friends decide if they want to do another revision of For The Record. I'm finding out a lot of info


-Unreleased songs like Groove Of Midnight, Men In Black, and other songs are out there being traded by collectors (If I had $5000, I'd be able to get them )
-The Triumph Tour concert at The Forum AND one of the Victory Tour shows were meant for a release (The Victory Tour was going to be released on laserdisc)
-Come Together was from 1985
-all this Budweiser Superfest info
-the James Whitney sessions
-Motown has TWO live recordings in the vaults just waiting for a release
-ROGER TROUTMAN ON SMOOTH CRIMINAL
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bboy87 said:

"Monkey business" sounds very dated to me LOL. Probably canned it like when he supposedly canned Bubbles' cartoon tv show. Bubbles was getting more attention then he was and Mike was sick of it

As for "come together", its telling Quincy did not produce that track, probably meaning it was recorded around 1985/86 before Quincy got properly on board for "bad" (he challenged MJ to write the whole album himself whilst on vacation. Jackson reportedly wrote 66 songs, Quincy not realising MJ took the challenge seriously ). Mike worked on tracks with John Barnes whilst Quincy was away ("alright now" being one I imagine). And so he probably worked with Bill Bottrell on "come together" around that time aswell, particually with the catalogue he had just aquired.

I read Michael blocked an official VHS release of the "victory" tour at the time, against all his other brothers wishes, who had one of the shows recorded professionally. Then later on in the tour, Mike got a tour date profssionally filmed like the brothers had done earlier, suggesting to them to release the VHS LOL. Surprise surpise. this time all the brothers were against it. Karma's a bitch.

So, we know at least 2 were properly filmed, meaning there is still hope for an eventual release of one of those shows LOL. Like when the Jacksons showed clips of it on their reality tv show. They exist

thesexofit said:

The Jacksons should release both on DVD as soon as possible.