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Reply #30 posted 02/25/10 2:49pm

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maria1999 said:

Who is Kara in the world of entertainment?
That's a question,not a comment.
I hadn't heard of her before AI, is she a singer, producer. what?
I love Patti Labelle, but there are certain qualities that make for a singer.
I just think that a lot of potentially good performers get overlooked in order to make room for the "blooper crew." I understand that this is one of the major reasons that AI is tuned in to, but it's gotta really old listening to the various non-singers.


As many have said this show isnt doing anything for growing an artist its just throwing out a new soundbyte artist for the day, yes some are talented but alot of the talented ones still dont grow as artists, or are they put into a situation to grow. Patti forgets that this show THINKS its 2 things, one, creating great megastars, which it has done upon releases (selling wise, Carrie Underwood,Kelly Clarkson to name 2) this show also thinks its puttiing out the best artists, which it is not, because in the end the public is voting, and lets not forget that they picked Taylor Hicks over Katharine Mcphee, reason, they didnt like her "smugness and shyness" well this isnt a manners contest, thats why the judges that are not qualified MOST are the public.

As for Kara she is a producer songwriter and does sing and was in a few bands, so she qualifies for the artist building, where as Simon is nothing but popularity, as for Ellen and Paula, just for ratings and show, no qualifications either way, Randy, well, more like a mix of Kara and Simon, but he is more of a musician and this show rarely has one

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Reply #31 posted 02/25/10 3:03pm

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"The comments that were made, they could make you like wanna kill yourself," the 65-year-old singer said.


but isn't that how it goes in the industry? and probably even way worse with no cameras around?

anyway she says they're not qualified but then goes on to add that she was asked to judge but declined? than what's your problem Patti? lol

i don't know it seems to me that she's either misquoted or bitter about something lol
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Reply #32 posted 02/25/10 3:04pm

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maria1999 said:

Who is Kara in the world of entertainment?
That's a question,not a comment.

You might want to AT LEAST do some research before spewing uneducated remarks, for your the one whose looking retarded. Kara's got some impressive accomplishments under her belt. She knows music on a deeper basis than any of the judges.
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Reply #33 posted 02/25/10 3:08pm

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maria1999 said:

Who is Kara in the world of entertainment?
That's a question,not a comment.

You might want to AT LEAST do some research before spewing uneducated remarks, for your the one whose looking retarded. Kara's got some impressive accomplishments under her belt. She knows music on a deeper basis than any of the judges.

I actually i believe it was a question to me in response, not a remark of "who is she" as if she is no one, i think it was even said in the post it was a question not a comment

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Reply #34 posted 02/25/10 3:10pm

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lastdecember said:

JesusFreak said:


You might want to AT LEAST do some research before spewing uneducated remarks, for your the one whose looking retarded. Kara's got some impressive accomplishments under her belt. She knows music on a deeper basis than any of the judges.

I actually i believe it was a question to me in response, not a remark of "who is she" as if she is no one, i think it was even said in the post it was a question not a comment



I thought so, too.
In fact, I've never watched AI, and have no idea who she is even now. shrug

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Reply #35 posted 02/25/10 5:37pm

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lastdecember said:


I actually i believe it was a question to me in response, not a remark of "who is she" as if she is no one, i think it was even said in the post it was a question not a comment



I thought so, too.
In fact, I've never watched AI, and have no idea who she is even now. shrug



she is a songwriter/producer has worked with chistina aguilera, kelly clarkson etc
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Reply #36 posted 02/25/10 5:40pm

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chocolate1 said:




I thought so, too.
In fact, I've never watched AI, and have no idea who she is even now. shrug



she is a songwriter/producer has worked with chistina aguilera, kelly clarkson etc



Thanks! biggrin

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Reply #37 posted 02/25/10 11:38pm

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she is a songwriter/producer has worked with chistina aguilera, kelly clarkson etc



Thanks! biggrin



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Reply #38 posted 02/25/10 11:49pm

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You're stuck in in the 80's so I guess it does lol


No I'm stuck in the Motortown Revue, try again. wink


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Reply #39 posted 02/26/10 12:14am

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Kara - well, she can write decent songs, but is she really a good judge of talent?


Kara's a pretty good singer. What most people don't know is that before the labels give the final go on her songs for their artists, the demos of her compositions are always done with her vocals. 10 years ago before she became "Idol" famous, I used to get to hear tons of her stuff when it was in this in between phase of being written for the artist. I was always struck by whether it was Faith Hill, Jon Secada, Celine Dion, whoever...she always sounded pretty kick ass singing her own stuff, and that as a producer she was the one in the studio instructing the singers how the songs were to be sung. She's got skillz, alright. All the stuff she writes for Celine actually sounds better with her singing it:

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Reply #40 posted 02/27/10 10:38am

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American Idol sucks. smile


None of them are qualified technically, i mean we love Randy Jackson but what the hell does he really know, Simon is nothing more than a talent scout, music is not what he does, and Paula judging music and singing, lets be real, its like Andrea Boccelli playing hide and seek for god sakes, the only one that really had "music creating,writing,playing" knowledge was Kara



eek What the hell does Randy Jackson know???...WOW he's extremely qualified to be a judge. He's been a major session bass player and producer for decades, Grammy nominated. He's played with and produced for long list of artist from Jazz to Country. Very respected in the industry. You should look up his resume. His background is extensive.
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Reply #41 posted 02/27/10 12:36pm

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maria1999 said:

Who is Kara in the world of entertainment?
That's a question,not a comment.
I hadn't heard of her before AI, is she a singer, producer. what?
I love Patti Labelle, but there are certain qualities that make for a singer.
I just think that a lot of potentially good performers get overlooked in order to make room for the "blooper crew." I understand that this is one of the major reasons that AI is tuned in to, but it's gotta really old listening to the various non-singers.

She's a famous song-writer. She has written hit songs for many artists.
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Reply #42 posted 02/27/10 1:01pm

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lastdecember said:



None of them are qualified technically, i mean we love Randy Jackson but what the hell does he really know, Simon is nothing more than a talent scout, music is not what he does, and Paula judging music and singing, lets be real, its like Andrea Boccelli playing hide and seek for god sakes, the only one that really had "music creating,writing,playing" knowledge was Kara



eek What the hell does Randy Jackson know???...WOW he's extremely qualified to be a judge. He's been a major session bass player and producer for decades, Grammy nominated. He's played with and produced for long list of artist from Jazz to Country. Very respected in the industry. You should look up his resume. His background is extensive.



I know his resume well and if you look at what i was saying throughout my posts im saying that what they are judging is simple, who can take over as a soundbyte artist, and Randy is a musician a seesion player and all those things, when the hell does being a musician even come up in AI, can someone bring me footage where "the contestant's musicianship" was part of this equation to getting a winner? In that respect Randy is almost on the wrong show as is Kara. Since at no time are playing and writing brought up.

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Reply #43 posted 02/27/10 6:20pm

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This new season of Idol sucks! Paula's gone and I don't like any of the contestants. And Ellen as a judge for a singing contest??? They have got to be kidding!
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Reply #44 posted 02/27/10 7:52pm

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Ellen is not qualified. I've watched her lame attempts at being an "Idol Judge" and she's awful. She doesn't even know how to critique the contestants.

That's true. Ellen said herself, to one of the contestants yesterday, that she doesn't know how to judge them "technically." I kinda figured that before she even started. lol Since she is a comedian who doesn't work in music, she might just be there for comic relief, lol.

Maybe Patti can take Simon's place when he leaves. That would be great.

yeahthat I would be forever glued if they had her on. She's a hoot when she gets started on something. I never will forget that one gospel show waaay back in the 90s where she kicked off her shoe. It was that good of a song and she got super happy performing it. lol
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Reply #45 posted 02/28/10 12:43pm

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By MESFIN FEKADU, Associated Press Writer
NEW YORK – Patti LaBelle thinks some people shouldn't be on "American Idol" — and she's not talking about the contestants.

"Some of the judges, I don't think they're qualified to even judge," she said in an interview Wednesday.

The veteran R&B diva wouldn't say which judge she thought was lacking on the hit Fox show, which has Simon Cowell, Randy Jackson, Kara DioGuardi and Ellen DeGeneres picking America's top singers. Tuesday's "Idol" episode saw 12 female semifinalists competing.

LaBelle said she was asked to be a judge on the series before Paula Abdul; a rep for the show had no comment on whether she was. LaBelle feels like the judges' comments to the contestants are too mean.

"The comments that were made, they could make you like wanna kill yourself," the 65-year-old singer said.

LaBelle's advice to singing hopefuls: "If you believe in yourself, just go for it. What do you have to lose? And when people tell you 'You can't,' you have to say, 'I can.'"

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She damn sure is right in saying that! It's singers out here that don't need a contract to save their mama's life! lol They sound like shit but they still believed in themselves and somebody saw their drive and signed their asses anyway. She can NOT sing but she has somewhat of a career.
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