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Reply #450 posted 03/03/10 12:00pm

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Timmy84 said:




LOL
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Reply #451 posted 03/03/10 12:03pm

Timmy84

I had to Murph. lol

EVERY TIME Janet Jackson is doing something, it goes from this:

"Oh she's beautiful for her age"
"Yes but surgery's her best friend"
"Bitch shut up she ain't had much"
"She still looks like Penny"
"She looks like Joe"
"She looks like Michael"
"She looks nothing like 'em"
"She ain't as talented as Michael"
"Yes she is"
"No she's not"
"Your mama"
"Your daddy"
Funny GIFs
Attacks back back forth and forth
Me posting a funny GIF

The same cycle with Janet Jackson in the ORG

And again fans are falling for THE BAIT!
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Reply #452 posted 03/03/10 12:11pm

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trueiopian said:

seeingvoices12 said:


Janet is Nowhere near Michael Jackson’s voice, Not even similar, God, there is a huge difference, Huge difference, with my respect to Janet, she is a mediocre vocalist at best , Nothing more , Nothing less.

Are you freaking serious about the statement that " Janet is More talented than MJ" ....

Only fanatical obsessed fan would say this, No one with a rational mind would say this…Only the crazed fans.


Denial.

Proof that their vocals were similar.


That is Janet's vocals slowed down and there are various other songs where their voices are really similar. So anyone saying she's a weak or mediocre vocalist is just saying the same about MJ. Since both are very reminiscent. He wasn't a powerhouse vocalist or anything.

Janet is more talented than MJ. She can do everything that he could + more.

Such as yourself. I don't even know why you're in here sigh


FAIL

Be sure that NO one takes your post seriously regarding that issue, The " janet is more talented that MJ" Joke, The majority of people will look at it as a Joke, No one will believe this , so keep dreaming.
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Reply #453 posted 03/03/10 12:30pm

sleepyq

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but Dangerous sounds nothing like RN

No, try again. I never said it was a copy, I said it was an ATTEMPT.

What was the theme of RN1814? Peace, love, unity, save the children, feed the people, yada yada. How many songs of MJ's dealth with these themes?

Off the Wall- ZERO
Thriller- ZERO
Bad- ONE (MITM- not written by MJ!)
Dangerous- FIVE (Jam, WYWTOM, B&W, HTW, KTF)

Why so hellbent on talkin about love, peace and unity, all of a sudden? He suddenly felt like making a preachy album? Or maybe because of a certain other album that came out 2 years prior?

RN1814-
1. Rhythm Nation- united to make the world a better place
2. State of the World- ppl r suffering, raise awareness
3. The Knowledge- importance of education
4. Livin in A World- compassion (save the children)

He repeated the THEME of JJ's RN1814. I never said it was a copy. Someone else said that. But he was clearly inspired by the creativity of the album (and perhaps the success), and aimed to create something similar. It also shows with the live performance of Jam aka Rhythm Nation part II. lol
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Reply #454 posted 03/03/10 12:36pm

Timmy84



ALL OF YOU! lol
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Reply #455 posted 03/03/10 12:38pm

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seeingvoices12 said:

trueiopian said:



Denial.

Proof that their vocals were similar.


That is Janet's vocals slowed down and there are various other songs where their voices are really similar. So anyone saying she's a weak or mediocre vocalist is just saying the same about MJ. Since both are very reminiscent. He wasn't a powerhouse vocalist or anything.

Janet is more talented than MJ. She can do everything that he could + more.

Such as yourself. I don't even know why you're in here sigh


FAIL

Be sure that NO one takes your post seriously regarding that issue, The " janet is more talented that MJ" Joke, The majority of people will look at it as a Joke, No one will believe this , so keep dreaming.


Sorry, but you must be dreaming if you think Janet and Michael sound absolutely nothing alike. I can't tell you how many times I've been listening to a certain Janet song and just sit in awe at the similarities of their vocals. It's not just in "Can't Be Good," but in most of her ballads, in particular. I'm not trying to take this to a one-is-better-than-the-other-type disagreement, but come on!
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Reply #456 posted 03/03/10 12:40pm

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Timmy84 said:



ALL OF YOU! lol


LOL! When I start up my next Janet thread, y'all mothas better be civil or else... wink
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Reply #457 posted 03/03/10 12:50pm

Timmy84

SEANMAN said:

Timmy84 said:



ALL OF YOU! lol


LOL! When I start up my next Janet thread, y'all mothas better be civil or else... wink


Child I have a better idea, tell 'em to stay on fucking topic. lol
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Reply #458 posted 03/03/10 12:54pm

seeingvoices12

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SEANMAN said:

seeingvoices12 said:



FAIL

Be sure that NO one takes your post seriously regarding that issue, The " janet is more talented that MJ" Joke, The majority of people will look at it as a Joke, No one will believe this , so keep dreaming.


Sorry, but you must be dreaming if you think Janet and Michael sound absolutely nothing alike. I can't tell you how many times I've been listening to a certain Janet song and just sit in awe at the similarities of their vocals. It's not just in "Can't Be Good," but in most of her ballads, in particular. I'm not trying to take this to a one-is-better-than-the-other-type disagreement, but come on!


LOL.. people are not deaf, One of the most Important things that distinguished MJ from other acts was his Identifiable, rare voice, In fact , MJ is one of the most important vocalists, I highly doubt that people took Janet seriously as a vocalist, she was more talented on other fields like dancing, some of you seriously need to stop inflating the girl’s talents.

I don’t see the similarity, maybe in some certain areas during a certain song, but actual singing? Hell NO, MJ has a rare identifiable voice
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Reply #459 posted 03/03/10 12:56pm

seeingvoices12

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Timmy84 said:



ALL OF YOU! lol



Be Quiet, Im enjoying this lol .
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Reply #460 posted 03/03/10 12:57pm

murph

Timmy84 said:

I had to Murph. lol

EVERY TIME Janet Jackson is doing something, it goes from this:

"Oh she's beautiful for her age"
"Yes but surgery's her best friend"
"Bitch shut up she ain't had much"
"She still looks like Penny"
"She looks like Joe"
"She looks like Michael"
"She looks nothing like 'em"
"She ain't as talented as Michael"
"Yes she is"
"No she's not"
"Your mama"
"Your daddy"
Funny GIFs
Attacks back back forth and forth
Me posting a funny GIF

The same cycle with Janet Jackson in the ORG

And again fans are falling for THE BAIT!



There it is....lol
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Reply #461 posted 03/03/10 1:17pm

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seeingvoices12 said:

SEANMAN said:



Sorry, but you must be dreaming if you think Janet and Michael sound absolutely nothing alike. I can't tell you how many times I've been listening to a certain Janet song and just sit in awe at the similarities of their vocals. It's not just in "Can't Be Good," but in most of her ballads, in particular. I'm not trying to take this to a one-is-better-than-the-other-type disagreement, but come on!


LOL.. people are not deaf, One of the most Important things that distinguished MJ from other acts was his Identifiable, rare voice, In fact , MJ is one of the most important vocalists, I highly doubt that people took Janet seriously as a vocalist, she was more talented on other fields like dancing, some of you seriously need to stop inflating the girl’s talents.

I don’t see the similarity, maybe in some certain areas during a certain song, but actual singing? Hell NO, MJ has a rare identifiable voice


No, what I am referring to is similarity, not identical. No, she doesn't sound IDENTICAL to him, but their voices are very similar. Reading your posts, it seems as though you think she sounds absolutely nothing like him. By the way, no one is inflating her talent, least not me. I simply call it as it is, as I did in an earlier post when someone foolishly said she can't "play a note," and that she doesn't write-I provided proof to the contrary. As much as some of you like to think people give Janet too much credit, there are others hellbent on dissing her abilities and capabilities to no end.

And, for the last time, could we PLEASE GET BACK TO THE TOPIC OF THIS MOTHAHOPPIN' THREAD???
[Edited 3/3/10 13:19pm]
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Reply #462 posted 03/03/10 2:20pm

trueiopian

seeingvoices12 said:

trueiopian said:



Denial.

Proof that their vocals were similar.


That is Janet's vocals slowed down and there are various other songs where their voices are really similar. So anyone saying she's a weak or mediocre vocalist is just saying the same about MJ. Since both are very reminiscent. He wasn't a powerhouse vocalist or anything.

Janet is more talented than MJ. She can do everything that he could + more.

Such as yourself. I don't even know why you're in here sigh


FAIL

Be sure that NO one takes your post seriously regarding that issue, The " janet is more talented that MJ" Joke, The majority of people will look at it as a Joke, No one will believe this , so keep dreaming.


Aw. sad

I know you want Janet and MJ to have no association whatsoever but it's impossible. You either have hearing issues or is just uptight. I think it's the latter. They DO sound alike. Deal with it.

and no, I'm not dreaming. Just stating facts.
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Reply #463 posted 03/03/10 2:22pm

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midiscover said:

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janet ain't as talented as MJ was by a mile. Her voice is weak and she was practically taught to dance by Paula Abdul. I've seen Janet dance before Paula Abdul got hold of her and I wasn't impressed!! Having said that I do believe some of her albums were better produced than MJ latter stuff. MJ fell down when he tried to be all things to all people, his sound waa all over the place on those latter albums. Janet never tried to do that, her music was more focus and her songs were actually better in some cases. The JANET album, imo has albums like BAD, DANGEROUS and HISTORY beat.

Having said that I do believe without her producers and her family name she wouldn't achieve the success she reached. Apparently Jimmy Jam & Lewis only wanted to work with her initially because she was a Jackson!


Yea, she is. Her voice isn't nor did Paula teach her how to dance. I'm sure Janet wouldn't care if you were impressed or not.Without her family Janet would be more successful. Janet has 7 other siblings who share her last name and aren't successful at all. So the last name argument is invalid. Without her producers she's fine. Jimmy and Terry wanted to work with her after she spoke to them through John McClain and Jesse Johnson. Get your facts straight! Janet worked with Jesse Johnson from the Time on Dream Street. IMO, MJ was all image and hype. Not better than Janet in any shape or form.


And her first 2 albums weren't all that, until she got with Jimmy Jam & Lewis, who claimed they wanted to work with her because she was a Jackson. So her name obviously meant something to someone. The fact is MJ raw talent was there from his childhood, you do remember a group called the Jackson 5 don't you even if you weren't born around the time? Everyone saw that raw talent, unless they choose not to. Now if you say Janet is a better actor than MJ and some of her albums were better produced and she had better songs then I say you have a point. But when it comes to raw talent MJ had her beat. Quite frankly I think even Jermaine Jackson has more raw talent than Janet.

The thing is you would never know how successful Janet would be without her last name because her brothers were there first, even when she played Penny her brothers were already famous. What's to say their influence never got her the role of Penny? So you can only assume that she would have been more successful than she is if she weren't a Jackson, quite frankly I doubt she would have had half the chances she got if it weren't for her last name.
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Reply #464 posted 03/03/10 2:22pm

Timmy84

I'm secretly putting a hit out on all the Jackson fans for liking to argue about BULLSHIT.

I'm a Jackson fan and I'm insulted. lol
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Reply #465 posted 03/03/10 2:23pm

Timmy84

WASN'T THE TOPIC ABOUT JANET ATTENDING A FASHION SHOW WEEKS AGO!?!?!

Just saying.
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Reply #466 posted 03/03/10 2:40pm

midiscover

whatsgoingon said:


And her first 2 albums weren't all that, until she got with Jimmy Jam & Lewis, who claimed they wanted to work with her because she was a Jackson. So her name obviously meant something to someone. The fact is MJ raw talent was there from his childhood, you do remember a group called the Jackson 5 don't you even if you weren't born around the time? Everyone saw that raw talent, unless they choose not to. Now if you say Janet is a better actor than MJ and some of her albums were better produced and she had better songs then I say you have a point. But when it comes to raw talent MJ had her beat. Quite frankly I think even Jermaine Jackson has more raw talent than Janet.

The thing is you would never know how successful Janet would be without her last name because her brothers were there first, even when she played Penny her brothers were already famous. What's to say their influence never got her the role of Penny? So you can only assume that she would have been more successful than she is if she weren't a Jackson, quite frankly I doubt she would have had half the chances she got if she weren't a Jackson.
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Lawd!! You MJ floons bring the Lolz.

Jimmy & Terry wanted to work with Janet because A&R John McClain told them she's a fan of their work with the Time and they wanted to work with her too because they wanted to help her. It has nothing to do with being a Jackson. Last time I checked all 7 of those mothafuckas were flopping harder than Precious. MJ isn't raw talent. Deal. Claymaine was a good singer and bassist but his talent ain't shit in comparison to Janet. You should stop underplaying her talent.

The thing is you're not making any sense right now. WTF does this mean - "The thing is you would never know how successful Janet would be without her last name because her brothers were there first, even when she played Penny her brothers were already famous." Who cares if they were already famous? Janet became more famous! Deal. No one cares for her other brothers except for MJ.

Penny > The other ones.

How did her brothers influence a director of a sitcom to put her on the show. Now you're really showing your craziness. Last time I checked she did a little part of the script and did the whole crying scene and she got the job.

Done.
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Reply #467 posted 03/03/10 2:44pm

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Timmy84 said:

WASN'T THE TOPIC ABOUT JANET ATTENDING A FASHION SHOW WEEKS AGO!?!?!

Just saying.


Come on Timmy lol , its fun, its a heated debate yes but its fun, and not that serious, The board without these kind of debates is worthless and not entertaining. lol
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Reply #468 posted 03/03/10 2:47pm

trueiopian

Timmy84 said:

WASN'T THE TOPIC ABOUT JANET ATTENDING A FASHION SHOW WEEKS AGO!?!?!

Just saying.


faint
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Reply #469 posted 03/03/10 2:48pm

Timmy84

seeingvoices12 said:

Timmy84 said:

WASN'T THE TOPIC ABOUT JANET ATTENDING A FASHION SHOW WEEKS AGO!?!?!

Just saying.


Come on Timmy lol , its fun, its a heated debate yes but its fun, and not that serious, The board without these kind of debates is worthless and not entertaining. lol


You just wanna argue. falloff
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Reply #470 posted 03/03/10 2:49pm

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Timmy84 said:

seeingvoices12 said:



Come on Timmy lol , its fun, its a heated debate yes but its fun, and not that serious, The board without these kind of debates is worthless and not entertaining. lol


You just wanna argue. falloff

maybe we should handle business like we used to do wink
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Reply #471 posted 03/03/10 2:53pm

trueiopian

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It has nothing to do with being a Jackson. Last time I checked all 7 of those mothafuckas were flopping harder than Precious.


I hate you!
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Reply #472 posted 03/03/10 2:54pm

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How did this go to comparing Dangerous to RN? Can we really say Dangerous was a "copy" of RN? I mean, wasn't the majority of Dangerous records recorded in 1989, the same year RN was released? Wasn't Black or White recorded during the Bad session?
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Reply #473 posted 03/03/10 2:55pm

midiscover

ViintageJunkiie said:

How did this go to comparing Dangerous to RN? Can we really say Dangerous was a "copy" of RN? I mean, wasn't the majority of Dangerous records recorded in 1989, the same year RN was released? Wasn't Black or White recorded during the Bad session?



RN1814 was recorded right after Control. The similarities between RN1814 and Dangerous is quite obvious.
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Reply #474 posted 03/03/10 2:58pm

midiscover

trueiopian said:

midiscover said:

It has nothing to do with being a Jackson. Last time I checked all 7 of those mothafuckas were flopping harder than Precious.


I hate you!




lol
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Reply #475 posted 03/03/10 2:58pm

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whatsgoingon said:


And her first 2 albums weren't all that, until she got with Jimmy Jam & Lewis, who claimed they wanted to work with her because she was a Jackson. So her name obviously meant something to someone. The fact is MJ raw talent was there from his childhood, you do remember a group called the Jackson 5 don't you even if you weren't born around the time? Everyone saw that raw talent, unless they choose not to. Now if you say Janet is a better actor than MJ and some of her albums were better produced and she had better songs then I say you have a point. But when it comes to raw talent MJ had her beat. Quite frankly I think even Jermaine Jackson has more raw talent than Janet.

The thing is you would never know how successful Janet would be without her last name because her brothers were there first, even when she played Penny her brothers were already famous. What's to say their influence never got her the role of Penny? So you can only assume that she would have been more successful than she is if she weren't a Jackson, quite frankly I doubt she would have had half the chances she got if she weren't a Jackson.
[Edited 3/3/10 14:31pm]


Lawd!! You MJ floons bring the Lolz.

Jimmy & Terry wanted to work with Janet because A&R John McClain told them she's a fan of their work with the Time and they wanted to work with her too because they wanted to help her. It has nothing to do with being a Jackson. Last time I checked all 7 of those mothafuckas were flopping harder than Precious. MJ isn't raw talent. Deal. Claymaine was a good singer and bassist but his talent ain't shit in comparison to Janet. You should stop underplaying her talent.

The thing is you're not making any sense right now. WTF does this mean - "The thing is you would never know how successful Janet would be without her last name because her brothers were there first, even when she played Penny her brothers were already famous." Who cares if they were already famous? Janet became more famous! Deal. No one cares for her other brothers except for MJ.

Penny > The other ones.

How did her brothers influence a director of a sitcom to put her on the show. Now you're really showing your craziness. Last time I checked she did a little part of the script and did the whole crying scene and she got the job.

Done.


Well you know so little about the showbiz industry. Yea she became more famous than the other brothers, apart from MJ, but the fact is they were still there first. What's to say if she wasn't just another pretty black girl with that voice Jimmy Jam and Lewis would still want to work with her? Your the one who can't deal with the probablity people were initially only interested in Janet because of her last name, including Jimmy Jam and Lewis. You need to deal with that....the media were still calling her "Michael Jackson's little sister" even after Control and Rhythmn Nation had blown up.

The fact is MJ was raw talent, it was there for everyone on the chitlin circuit to see when he was only 5. It was there for the whole nation to see when he was 11 years old and he got his first number 1 and by the time he was 24, he had become legendary. Agreed some of his latter stuff were so great, but raw talent is raw talent even when the songs aren't great.
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Reply #476 posted 03/03/10 2:58pm

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seeingvoices12 said:



Come on Timmy lol , its fun, its a heated debate yes but its fun, and not that serious, The board without these kind of debates is worthless and not entertaining. lol


You just wanna argue. falloff

falloff

Not really, when someone quotes my post then I have to respond and say something which will lead to endless debate.

I have always loved a great healthy respectful debate lol That's why these forums created.


I enjoyed reading some of the posts, especially the Murphy ones, they are really informative, we learn things everyday.
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Reply #477 posted 03/03/10 2:59pm

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How did this go to comparing Dangerous to RN? Can we really say Dangerous was a "copy" of RN? I mean, wasn't the majority of Dangerous records recorded in 1989, the same year RN was released? Wasn't Black or White recorded during the Bad session?

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Reply #478 posted 03/03/10 3:00pm

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midiscover said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

How did this go to comparing Dangerous to RN? Can we really say Dangerous was a "copy" of RN? I mean, wasn't the majority of Dangerous records recorded in 1989, the same year RN was released? Wasn't Black or White recorded during the Bad session?



RN1814 was recorded right after Control. The similarities between RN1814 and Dangerous is quite obvious.


While Janet was singing about prejudice, ignorance, bigotry and illiteracy, MJ was actually out there donating to the charities to actually make a change. They both handled the awareness differently
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midiscover said:




RN1814 was recorded right after Control. The similarities between RN1814 and Dangerous is quite obvious.


While Janet was singing about prejudice, ignorance, bigotry and illiteracy, MJ was actually out there donating to the charities to actually make a change. They both handled the awareness differently

Them Jacksons love them some charity

like that charity pussy Janet's gave to Dupri all those years lol
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