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midiscover said: chrisslope9 said: You can call me all the names you like but the fact is Janet minus Jimmy and Terry = Latoya ....sorry. Praise your savior - Janbudda For she shall forgive you for using her name in vain. 
So I guess those pics were taken before a liposuction visit. Now post some after pics  [Edited 2/27/10 22:14pm] |
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Cinnie said: chrisslope9 said: You can call me all the names you like but the fact is Janet minus Jimmy and Terry = Latoya ....sorry. = the Discipline album you mean  
She wish! | |
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chrisslope9 said: So I guess those pics were taken before a liposuction visit. Now post some after pics
[Edited 2/27/10 22:14pm] Thanks quoting I wanted Janbudda on page 11 as well  | |
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trueiopian said: Cinnie said: = the Discipline album you mean
She wish! Eh... Janet didn't work with J & L on the Discipline album  | |
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Yasss. Let's talk about sales!
MJ (before June 25, 2009) Janet US Sales Control- 7.5 mil Bad- 9 mil Rhythm Nation 1814- 9.3 mil Dangerous- 7.3 mil janet- 8.5 mil HIStory (2CD)- 3.7 mil Design of a Decade- 4.5 mil Blood on the Dancefloor- 1.1 mil The Velvet Rope- 4.2 Grestest Hits HIStory Vol. 1- 1.1 mil All For You- 3.7 mil Invincible- 2.2 mil Number Ones- 1.9 mil Damita Jo- 1.2 mil The Essential (2CD)- 500k 20 YO- 1 mil Thriller 25- 900k Discipline- 500k Number Ones (2CD)- 130k UK Sales Control- 650k Bad- 4.7 mil Rhythm Nation- 420k Dangerous- 2.3 mil janet.- 820k HIStory (2CD)- 1.8 mil Design of A Decade- 750k Blood on the Dancefloor- 300k The Velvet Rope- 420k Greatest Hits HIStory Vol. 1- 200k All For You- 230k Invincible- 370k Number Ones- 1.6 mil Damita Jo- 60k The Essential (2CD)- 350k 20 YO- 15k Thriller 25- 370k Discipline- 15k King of Pop (2/3 CD)- 250k Number Ones (2CD)- 75k Worldwide Sales Control- 10 mil Bad- 31 mil Rhythm Nation- 13 mil Dangerous- 29 mil janet.- 16 mil HIStory (2CD)- 18 mil Design of A Decade- 10 mil Blood on the Dancefloor- 4.5 mil The Velvet Rope- 9 mil Greatest Hits HIStory Vol. 1- 2 mil All For You- 7.3 mil Invincible- 7 mil Number Ones- 6 mil Damita Jo- 2.5 mil The Essential (2CD)- 2.5 mil 20 YO- 1.4 mil Thriller 25- 2.4 mil Discipline- 800k King of Pop (2/3 CD)- 600k Number Ones (2CD)- 300k She's not under his shadow at all! Perhaphs in the UK, but even her worldwide sales are nothing to sneeze at. Success and fame are completely different things. How much did Paris Hilton's album sell? Yeah, i just used that as an excuse to talk about sales. | |
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chrisslope9 said: trueiopian said: No, it's not. You probably haven't even listened to all of Jaent's work. She's an all around talent. Unlike her confused sister. You sound like one of those idiots that said she wouldn't make after Dream Street or the ones that bitched and moaned that she's over when she's still gracing your computer screen. You can call me all the names you like but the fact is Janet minus Jimmy and Terry = Latoya ....sorry.  MICHAEL JACKSON
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bboy87 said: midiscover said: You could've just said that they aren't talented Plus that article Latoya did was her giving people the tea on her brothers. Not about her.I actually think they're all talented, just not as much as you know who
Jackie, Randy, and Marlon are all great writers, and Marlon is one hell of a dancer Tito is that dude on the guitar, and Jermaine.....good singer, songwriter, bass player, and he can do some damage with a jar of Blue Magic Hair Conditioner
Rebbie, is a good singer, but she's always seemed like the one who didn't want to be a big star, she just enjoyed it and that was that. LaToya.....I don't know
Janet is a great singer, songwriter, actress, and dancer as we all know and Michael.....The most talented of all Fixed. MICHAEL JACKSON
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chrisslope9 said: trueiopian said: What a stupid thing to say and an insult to Janet. Janet worked hard to get to where she is without Jimmy and Terry. Yes, they made a great team but it's not only Jimmy and Terry's doing. They can thank Janet. It's just the truth. an opinion. | |
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mancabdriver said: chrisslope9 said: It's just the truth. an opinion. Of course, Latoya is nowhere near Janet, In fact , Latoya is just talentless. MICHAEL JACKSON
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chrisslope9 said: trueiopian said: What a stupid thing to say and an insult to Janet. Janet worked hard to get to where she is without Jimmy and Terry. Yes, they made a great team but it's not only Jimmy and Terry's doing. They can thank Janet. It's just the truth. ^^You're an idiot^^ "Get up off that grey line" | |
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sleepyq said: Worldwide Sales Control- 10 mil <---- 14 million units Rhythm Nation- 13 mil <----- 16 million units janet.- 16 mil <----- 20+ million units Design of A Decade- 10 mil The Velvet Rope- 9 mil <--- 10 million units All For You- 7.3 mil Damita Jo- 2.5 mil 20 YO- 1.4 mil Discipline- 800k Number Ones (2CD)- 300k Corrected. | |
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midiscover said: trueiopian said:
She wish! Eh... Janet didn't work with J & L on the Discipline album Oh! I thought he was saying it was a Latoya-esque album 
and OMFG! at the JanBudda pic  Did you make that? | |
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trueiopian said: midiscover said: Eh... Janet didn't work with J & L on the Discipline album Oh! I thought he was saying it was a Latoya-esque album
and OMFG! at the JanBudda pic Did you make that?I want it to be a profile pic. It is amazing. | |
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trueiopian said: midiscover said: Eh... Janet didn't work with J & L on the Discipline album Oh! I thought he was saying it was a Latoya-esque album
and OMFG! at the JanBudda pic Did you make that?Hell na! No, I got it from a fan site Isn't it amazing?  | |
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midiscover said: trueiopian said: Oh! I thought he was saying it was a Latoya-esque album
and OMFG! at the JanBudda pic Did you make that?Hell na! No, I got it from a fan site Isn't it amazing?  yous a gatdang fool!!!!!  LOVE HARD. | |
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trueiopian said: sleepyq said: Worldwide Sales Control- 10 mil <---- 14 million units Rhythm Nation- 13 mil <----- 16 million units janet.- 16 mil <----- 20+ million units Design of A Decade- 10 mil The Velvet Rope- 9 mil <--- 10 million units All For You- 7.3 mil Damita Jo- 2.5 mil 20 YO- 1.4 mil Discipline- 800k Number Ones (2CD)- 300k Corrected. Ummm, no. Are u relying on wikipedia figures? These are her sales/shipments. Where did Control sell 14 million? Everyone knows that Kanet did not become a worldwide mame until the janet. album. Control and RN hardly made a dent overseas. PLEASE do not try to boost her accomplioshments by posting fake sales. She has had a wonderful, successful career. You don't need to make up fake numbers to support that. | |
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truopian is right.
Control did sell 14 million units worldwide. Her record label stated this before. janet. sold more than 20 million worldwide. Rhythm Nation stands at about 16 million worldwide. and of course, The Velvet Rope at 10 million worldwide. | |
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midiscover said: truopian is right.
Control did sell 14 million units worldwide. Her record label stated this before. janet. sold more than 20 million worldwide. Rhythm Nation stands at about 16 million worldwide. and of course, The Velvet Rope at 10 million worldwide. O, r u talkin about the press release for the Number Ones album? I know what ur talkin about, but Madonna had the same thing, as did Michael, and her own fans were saying that the sales were bloated. Madonna's label announced over 200 million albums, which is technically impossible, even according to Madonna fans. So I take that with a grain of salt. All the forums with chart experts offer the numbers I posted here. None of them have claimed the janet. album is all the way at 20 mil, and that's y i posted that. Even MJ's sales r lower than the bloated #s I see all over the place. Its said a lot that Janet did not break into overseas markets until the janet. album. Hence, the low sales for Control and RN. Those 2 albums had little success over seas, failing to even chart in many contries. That's y I'm wary of 14 mil for CNTRL. Where did an extra 7 mil come from? ... maybe the label included single sales...  [Edited 2/28/10 15:35pm] | |
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sleepyq said: O, r u talkin about the press release for the Number Ones album? I know what ur talkin about, but Madonna had the same thing, as did Michael, and her own fans were saying that the sales were bloated. Madonna's label announced over 200 million albums, which is technically impossible, even according to Madonna fans. So I take that with a grain of salt. All the forums with chart experts offer the numbers I posted here. None of them have claimed the janet. album is all the way at 20 mil, and that's y i posted that. Even MJ's sales r lower than the bloated #s I see all over the place. Its said a lot that Janet did not break into overseas markets until the janet. album. Hence, the low sales for Control and RN. Those 2 albums had little success over seas, failing to even chart in many contries. That's y I'm wary of 14 mil for CNTRL. Where did an extra 7 mil come from? No, I'm not talking about her press release even If I was it's affiliated with Janet's official site. The janet. has sold 20 million albums worldwide. If you've seen Janet's access granted there's a record label head that said that album sold 14 million worldwide. These are correct figures. I've heard two different things on Rhythm Nation that it sold more than 14 million or 16 million. But I'm not sure. There was also some fan game thing on her site and it stated that Control has sold 14 million albums worldwide as the correct answer. No one's trying to fabricate Janet's success. If anything it's always being down played by many. | |
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sleepyq said: ... maybe the label included single sales...
[Edited 2/28/10 15:35pm] No, single sales are only included in her record sales, not album sales. | |
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midiscover said: sleepyq said: O, r u talkin about the press release for the Number Ones album? I know what ur talkin about, but Madonna had the same thing, as did Michael, and her own fans were saying that the sales were bloated. Madonna's label announced over 200 million albums, which is technically impossible, even according to Madonna fans. So I take that with a grain of salt. All the forums with chart experts offer the numbers I posted here. None of them have claimed the janet. album is all the way at 20 mil, and that's y i posted that. Even MJ's sales r lower than the bloated #s I see all over the place. Its said a lot that Janet did not break into overseas markets until the janet. album. Hence, the low sales for Control and RN. Those 2 albums had little success over seas, failing to even chart in many contries. That's y I'm wary of 14 mil for CNTRL. Where did an extra 7 mil come from? No, I'm not talking about her press release even If I was it's affiliated with Janet's official site. The janet. has sold 20 million albums worldwide. If you've seen Janet's access granted there's a record label head that said that album sold 14 million worldwide. These are correct figures. I've heard two different things on Rhythm Nation that it sold more than 14 million or 16 million. But I'm not sure. There was also some fan game thing on her site and it stated that Control has sold 14 million albums worldwide as the correct answer. No one's trying to fabricate Janet's success. If anything it's always being down played by many. I love talkin about #s, but i do like accuracy. I used to try to introduce those big #s, but a lot of chart experts were calling me a fanatic and explaining why i was wrong, and they gave me these smaller #s and broke down where it sold what. So i'll try to see the breakdown for 14 mil for Control, because I really can't figure out how Control sold 6.5 million outside of the US. I'll get back to u on that... | |
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sleepyq said: I love talkin about #s, but i do like accuracy. I used to try to introduce those big #s, but a lot of chart experts were calling me a fanatic and explaining why i was wrong, and they gave me these smaller #s and broke down where it sold what. So i'll try to see the breakdown for 14 mil for Control, because I really can't figure out how Control sold 6.5 million outside of the US. I'll get back to u on that... My #'s are accurate. Big numbers? Lol. I have no reason to lie to boost Janet up. She's already considered one of the best selling artists in the world. The 7th most successful artist of Billboard’s Hot 100 All-Time Artists, 3rd female, 2nd African-American, and 1st African-American female. This is all fact, not opinion. Her label's statement > others. | |
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See, here... I changed up some of the #s that didn't make sense, but tis similar to what i posted. Heres the breakdown:
Control (1986) USA : 7.500.000 Canada : 300.000 Nouvelle-Zélande : 10.000 Japon : 200.000 Afrique Du Sud : 250.000 Europe : 1.360.000 - UK : 650.000 - Allemagne : 125.000 - France : 25.000 - Italie : 100.000 - Pays-Bas : 140.000 (#5 (63)) - Suède : 15.000 (#47 (0)(2)) - Suisse : 20.000 (#28 (0)(5)) Estimations mondiales : 10.400.000 Rhythm Nation 1814 (1989) USA : 8.800.000 Canada : 400.000 Australie : 140.000 Nouvelle-Zélande : 10.000 Japon : 500.000 Afrique Du Sud : 250.000 Europe : 1.010.000 - UK : 425.000 - Allemagne : 125.000 - France : 25.000 - Italie : 100.000 - Pays-Bas : 60.000 (#19 (39)) - Suède : 30.000 (#24 (0)(14)) - Suisse : 30.000 (#23 (0)(1)) Estimations mondiales : 12.200.000 Janet (1993) USA : 8.300.000 Canada : 400.000 Australie : 140.000 Nouvelle-Zélande : 15.000 Japon : 650.000 Afrique Du Sud : 300.000 Europe : 2.470.000 - UK : 825.000 - Allemagne : 575.000 - France : 225.000 - Espagne : 40.000 - Italie : 100.000 - Pays-Bas : 140.000 (#5 (50)) - Suède : 70.000 (#5 ( 8) (27)) - Autriche : #7 (1)(25) - Suisse : 40.000 (#10 (3)(29)) Estimations mondiales : 13.500.000 Design Of A Decade 1986/1996 (1995) USA : 4.700.000 Canada : 300.000 Australie : 280.000 Nouvelle-Zélande : 30.000 Japon : 500.000 Afrique Du Sud : 150.000 Europe : 2.080.000 - UK : 725.000 - Allemagne : 350.000 - France : 350.000 - Italie : 75.000 - Pays-Bas : 70.000 (#11 (24)) - Suède : 30.000 (#14 (0)(12)) - Autriche : 15.000 (#15 (0)(11)) - Suisse : 55.000 (#6 (2)(19)) - Finlande : 15.000 (#18 ( 8) ) Estimations mondiales : 9.200.000 The Velvet Rope (1997) USA : 4.200.000 Canada : 350.000 Australie : 140.000 Nouvelle-Zélande : 15.000 Japon : 300.000 Afrique Du Sud : 100.000 Europe : 2.350.000 - UK : 400.000 - Allemagne : 400.000 - France : 550.000 - Espagne : 125.000 - Italie : 175.000 - Pays-Bas : 125.000 (#3 (48)) - Suède : 70.000 (#4 (3)(31)) - Autriche : 25.000 (#9 (2)(22)) - Suisse : 65.000 (#5 (13)(34)) - Finlande : 20.000 (#19 (19)) Estimations mondiales : 8.800.000 All For You (2001) USA : 3.500.000 Canada : 350.000 Australie : 35.000 Nouvelle-Zélande : 7.500 Japon : 750.000 Corée Du Sud : 40.000 Afrique Du Sud : 200.000 Europe : 1.030.000 - UK : 225.000 - Allemagne : 225.000 - France : 175.000 - Espagne : 60.000 - Italie : 60.000 - Pays-Bas : 50.000 (#4 (12)) - Suède : 25.000 (#4 (2)(7)) - Autriche : 10.000 (#8 (1)(6)) - Suisse : 30.000 (#2 (4)(18)) - Finlande : 10.000 (#14 (5)) Estimations mondiales : 7.100.000 Damita Jo (2004) USA : 1.300.000 Canada : 100.000 Brésil : 10.000 Japon : 175.000 Corée Du Sud : 15.000 Europe : 250.000 - UK : 70.000 - Allemagne : 35.000 - France : 20.000 - Espagne : 10.000 - Pays-Bas : 10.000 (#23 (7)) - Suède : #43 (0)(1) - Autriche : #49 (0)(1) - Suisse : #34 (0)(4) Estimations mondiales : 2.400.000 20 Y.O. (2006) Estimations mondiales : 1.200.000 http://fanofmusic.free.fr...netJackson 10,000,000 7,286,000 Control USA = 5 million, SoundScan = 496,000 / UK = 650,000 / Germany = 125,000 / France = 25,000 / Italy = 100,000 / Holland = 140,000 / New Zealand = 15,000 / Japan = 200,000 / South Africa = 200,000 / Canada = 300,000 / Sweden = 15,000 / Switzerland = 20,000 300,000 100,000 Control - The Remixes UK = 100,000 12,250,000 9,472,000 Rhythm Nation 1814 USA = 6 million, SoundScan = 1.377 million / UK = 425,000 / Germany = 125,000 / France = 25,000 / Italy = 100,000 / Holland = 60,000 / Canada = 400,000 / Sweden = 30,000 / Australia = 140,000 / New Zealand = 15,000 / Switzerland = 25,000 / Japan = 500,000 / South Africa = 250,000 13,250,000 11,367,400 janet. USA SoundScan = 7.01 million, BMG = 860,000 / UK = 800,000 / Canada = 400,000 / Spain = 40,000 / Italy = 100,000 / Holland = 140,000 / Sweden = 70,000 / Australia = 140,000 / France = 242,400) / Germany = 575,000) / New Zealand = 15,000 / Switzerland = 25,000 / Japan = 650,000 / South Africa = 300,000 400,000 123,900 Janet.Remixed UK = 100,000 / Japan = 23,900 9,000,000 6,842,000 Design Of A Decade 1986/1996 USA SoundScan = 2.422 million, BMG = 1.48 million / UK 725,000 / Canada = 300,000 / Australia = 280,000 / Germany = 350,000) / New Zealand = 30,000, Switzerland = 50,000) / Japan = 500,000 / South Africa = 150,000 / France = 350,000 / Italy = 75,000 / Holland = 70,000 / Sweden = 30,000 / Austria = 15,000 / Finland = 15,000 8,500,000 6,334,000 The Velvet Rope USA SoundScan = 3.229 million, BMG = 420,000 / UK 400,000 / Canada = 350,000 / Australia = 140,000 / France = 500,000) / New Zealand = 15,000 / Switzerland = 50,000 / Japan = 300,000 / Germany = 400,000) / South Africa = 100,000 / Italy = 175,000 / Holland = 125,000 / Austria = 15,000 / Spain = 125,000 / Sweden = 70,000 / Finland = 20,000 7,000,000 5,544,350 All For You USA SoundScan 3.107 million, BMG = 100,000, CD/DVD SoundScan = 140,350 / UK = 225,000) , Australia = 35,000 / Canada = 300,000 / France = 177,000) / Germany = 225,000) / New Zealand = 10,000 / Switzerland = 20,000 / Japan = 750,000 / South Africa = 200,000 / South Korea = 40,000 / Spain = 60,000 / Italy = 60,000 / Holland = 50,000 / Sweden = 25,000 / Austria = 10,000 / Finland = 10,000 2,450,000 1,437,000 Damita Jo USA SoundScan = 1.002 million / UK = 60,000 / Canada = 100,000 / Japan = 175,000 / Brazil = 10,000 / South Korea = 15,000 / Germany = 35,000 / France = 20,000 / Spain = 10,000 / Holland = 10,000 1,430,000 751,000 20 Y.O. USA SoundScan = 655,000 / Japan = 96,000 795,000 536,540 Discipline USA SoundScan = 446,000 / Japan = 65,200 / Canada = 15,000 /UK = 10,000 http://www.mjjcharts.com/...Albums.htm ALBUM SALES (US sales in brackets): Janet Jackson - 1million (600,000) Dream Street - 0.5million (350,000) Control - 10million (7.5million US) Rhythm Nation - 12.5million (9million US) Janet - 14million (8.5million US) Design of a Decade - 9million (4.5million US) The Velvet Rope - 8.5million (4.2million) All For You - 6.5million (3.25million US) Damita Joe - 2million (1.3million US) 20 Y.O. - 1.2million (500,000 US) Discipline - 0.75million (450,000 US) TOTAL: 65.95million (40.45million US) http://www.vanityedge.com...play-Chart They all calculated seperately and came up w/ similar #s... but i'll go look for more info to see how the #s could be so much bigger than i thought. | |
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midiscover said: sleepyq said: I love talkin about #s, but i do like accuracy. I used to try to introduce those big #s, but a lot of chart experts were calling me a fanatic and explaining why i was wrong, and they gave me these smaller #s and broke down where it sold what. So i'll try to see the breakdown for 14 mil for Control, because I really can't figure out how Control sold 6.5 million outside of the US. I'll get back to u on that... My #'s are accurate. Big numbers? Lol. I have no reason to lie to boost Janet up. She's already considered one of the best selling artists in the world. The 7th most successful artist of Billboard’s Hot 100 All-Time Artists, 3rd female, 2nd African-American, and 1st African-American female. This is all fact, not opinion. Her label's statement > others. Michael's label has backed up the 104 mil claim for Thriller! Is that a fact too?
I agree that Janet is huge on her own. But Mimi, who has sold more than Janet, has fans bloating up her sales. Madonna- is the biggest selling female artist of all time, and her fans who bloat her sales. So u have to excuse me... | |
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Why are you down playing Janet's #'s
janet. 13 million?
Control 10 million?
Stop. | |
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sleepyq said: midiscover said: My #'s are accurate. Big numbers? Lol. I have no reason to lie to boost Janet up. She's already considered one of the best selling artists in the world. The 7th most successful artist of Billboard’s Hot 100 All-Time Artists, 3rd female, 2nd African-American, and 1st African-American female. This is all fact, not opinion. Her label's statement > others. Michael's label has backed up the 104 mil claim for Thriller! Is that a fact too?
I agree that Janet is huge on her own. But Mimi, who has sold more than Janet, has fans bloating up her sales. Madonna- is the biggest selling female artist of all time, and her fans who bloat her sales. So u have to excuse me... Madonna isn't the biggest selling artist of all time  that's Celine Dion.
Idc for others. I'm stating Janet's #'s based off what I read. | |
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midiscover said: Why are you down playing Janet's #'s
janet. 13 million?
Control 10 million?
Stop. I'm nottttt. But if i post 20 mil for the janet. album at a charts forum, i'll get laughed at! 20 mil for janet. will be looked as a joke! | |
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sleepyq said: midiscover said: Why are you down playing Janet's #'s
janet. 13 million?
Control 10 million?
Stop. I'm nottttt. But if i post 20 mil for the janet. album at a charts forum, i'll get laughed at! 20 mil for janet. will be looked as a joke! I'm dieing over here. You got your info from a UK site!?! Lawd.
They don't curr about my Janet. | |
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midiscover said: sleepyq said: Michael's label has backed up the 104 mil claim for Thriller! Is that a fact too?
I agree that Janet is huge on her own. But Mimi, who has sold more than Janet, has fans bloating up her sales. Madonna- is the biggest selling female artist of all time, and her fans who bloat her sales. So u have to excuse me... Madonna isn't the biggest selling artist of all time that's Celine Dion.
Idc for others. I'm stating Janet's #'s based off what I read.
Celine Dion ouselling Madonna? Madonna is undisputedly the biggest female artist of all time and is currently the biggest solo artist in the world. UNDISPUTED!
Anyway, I'll get back to u on the janet #s lata. I'll consult the "experts." | |
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