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Reply #270 posted 02/11/10 7:37pm

Moonbeam

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TotalAlisa said:

Moonbeam said:



I'm a Janet fan through and through, but I like All for You far better than any of her other albums from the 2000s.

did you buy all her albums?????


Of course! I like all of them, too, but All for You is definitely my favorite of the 00s.
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Reply #271 posted 02/13/10 11:54am

midiscover

Jermaine said on a Dallas radio station today (Feb. 12) that he will NOT be working on her album, just the song for the film.


Lawrdd!! I'm so glad she's not working with JD anymore


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Reply #272 posted 02/13/10 3:12pm

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midiscover said:

Jermaine said on a Dallas radio station today (Feb. 12) that he will NOT be working on her album, just the song for the film.


Lawrdd!! I'm so glad she's not working with JD anymore


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woot!
I hope she either scurries back to Jimmy Jam and Terry, or goes for some completely different collaborators. I have a feeling she's gonna pull an ace out of her sleave.
2012: The Queen Returns
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Reply #273 posted 02/14/10 10:13am

trueiopian

midiscover said:

Jermaine said on a Dallas radio station today (Feb. 12) that he will NOT be working on her album, just the song for the film.



omg


I. want. this




pray
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Reply #274 posted 02/14/10 10:48am

TotalAlisa

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LIKE I SAID! YOU ALL ARE SETTING YOURSELF UP for Disappointment if you think janet is going to do another Velvet Rope. I hope she makes her album a mixture between Damita Joe, AFY, 20 Y.O and Dicipline.
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Reply #275 posted 02/14/10 11:00am

midiscover

Girl, please! rolleyes ain't no one want another 40 Y.O. and Floplicine


AWWW!!
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Reply #276 posted 02/14/10 11:06am

trueiopian

TotalAlisa said:

LIKE I SAID! YOU ALL ARE SETTING YOURSELF UP for Disappointment if you think janet is going to do another Velvet Rope. I hope she makes her album a mixture between Damita Joe, AFY, 20 Y.O and Dicipline.


Who said that?

Janet and Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis have a bond that no other artists/producer duos have nor can duplicate and it's evident in her music from Control-AFY. I know they worked with her on Damita Jo and 20 Y.O. but the bond was interfered by unneeded producers and writers. When its' Janet, Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis in the credits it's ALWAYS good. I can't think of one bad song where it was just those three. I hope she doesn't make another album like 20 Y.O.and Discipline. Those 2 albums were cute and just cute. Besides a few tracks I could do without the rest. If Jimmy & Terry aren't doing a full album. I hope they do her signature ballads and do what they do best by highlighting her harmonies and bringing out the soul in her voice. I didn't hear this when she worked with others. It's like she loses her spark when she doesn't work with people she bonds with.
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Reply #277 posted 02/14/10 11:15am

VoicesCarry

trueiopian said:

TotalAlisa said:

LIKE I SAID! YOU ALL ARE SETTING YOURSELF UP for Disappointment if you think janet is going to do another Velvet Rope. I hope she makes her album a mixture between Damita Joe, AFY, 20 Y.O and Dicipline.


Who said that?

Janet and Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis have a bond that no other artists/producer duos have nor can duplicate and it's evident in her music from Control-AFY. I know they worked with her on Damita Jo and 20 Y.O. but the bond was interfered by unneeded producers and writers. When its' Janet, Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis in the credits it's ALWAYS good. I can't think of one bad song where it was just those three. I hope she doesn't make another album like 20 Y.O.and Discipline. Those 2 albums were cute and just cute. Besides a few tracks I could do without the rest. If Jimmy & Terry aren't doing a full album. I hope they do her signature ballads and do what they do best by highlighting her harmonies and bringing out the soul in her voice. I didn't hear this when she worked with others. It's like she loses her spark when she doesn't work with people she bonds with.
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There are a few things that need to happen if Janet is to really have a fruitful creative partnership with them again.

First, Jam & Lewis need to update their sound and step it up with their production, since they veered sharply towards using samples as the foundation for an entire song by the time All For You rolled around. They haven't produced a big hit, or even really anything of note since AFY (the exception may be Gwen's Harajuku Girls and Chaka's last album) - there's a reason for that.

Second, they need to learn to press the "EDIT" button and focus on creating a streamlined album for her. No bloated Damita Jo, please.

I really feel as if her best bet is to work with them, but also work with other producers who seem to know how to get something great out of her, like Rodney (Feedback was one of her best uptempos in years - and it sounded like a Janet song should) or the Avila Brothers.

I agree that Janet should not bother doing ballads with anyone else.
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Reply #278 posted 02/14/10 11:19am

TotalAlisa

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trueiopian said:

TotalAlisa said:

LIKE I SAID! YOU ALL ARE SETTING YOURSELF UP for Disappointment if you think janet is going to do another Velvet Rope. I hope she makes her album a mixture between Damita Joe, AFY, 20 Y.O and Dicipline.


Who said that?

Janet and Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis have a bond that no other artists/producer duos have nor can duplicate and it's evident in her music from Control-AFY. I know they worked with her on Damita Jo and 20 Y.O. but the bond was interfered by unneeded producers and writers. When its' Janet, Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis in the credits it's ALWAYS good. I can't think of one bad song where it was just those three. I hope she doesn't make another album like 20 Y.O.and Discipline. Those 2 albums were cute and just cute. Besides a few tracks I could do without the rest. If Jimmy & Terry aren't doing a full album. I hope they do her signature ballads and do what they do best by highlighting her harmonies and bringing out the soul in her voice. I didn't hear this when she worked with others. It's like she loses her spark when she doesn't work with people she bonds with.
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Jimmy and Terry were on the 20 YO album and you guys STILL didn't support or buy the album. So why would it make a difference now. lol
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Reply #279 posted 02/14/10 11:20am

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midiscover said:

Girl, please! rolleyes ain't no one want another 40 Y.O. and Floplicine


AWWW!!

I ENJOYED THAT ALBUM i could almost listen to every song without skipping. I didn't care for call on me. but that had grown on me.
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Reply #280 posted 02/14/10 11:42am

Cinnie

Fans demanded that Janet collaborate on NOTHING with Jermaine Dupri, so she found a loophole. neutral
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Reply #281 posted 02/14/10 11:47am

midiscover

Cinnie said:

Fans demanded that Janet collaborate on NOTHING with Jermaine Dupri, so she found a loophole. neutral


lol
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Reply #282 posted 02/14/10 11:50am

trueiopian

VoicesCarry said:



There are a few things that need to happen if Janet is to really have a fruitful creative partnership with them again.

First, Jam & Lewis need to update their sound and step it up with their production, since they veered sharply towards using samples as the foundation for an entire song by the time All For You rolled around. They haven't produced a big hit, or even really anything of note since AFY (the exception may be Gwen's Harajuku Girls and Chaka's last album) - there's a reason for that.

Second, they need to learn to press the "EDIT" button and focus on creating a streamlined album for her. No bloated Damita Jo, please.

I really feel as if her best bet is to work with them, but also work with other producers who seem to know how to get something great out of her, like Rodney (Feedback was one of her best uptempos in years - and it sounded like a Janet song should) or the Avila Brothers.

I agree that Janet should not bother doing ballads with anyone else.
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I agree.

Though sampling has always been a staple with Jimmy & Terry. Almost all of their productions have a sample. I don't have a problem with that. It's the Hip-Hop influence in their music. I don't care for Rodney but I'm confident that he can bring something new to the table working with Janet this time around. I love the demo for Not my Love. So we'll see. I would like for her to branch out and work with people you wouldn't expect too. Yea, when she works with other producers on her ballads it's a train wreak. Never Letchu Go? Greatest X? With U? They're ALWAYS making the same mistake of mixing her vocals in badly which only highlights the meekness in her voice in a very unpleasant way. Jimmy & Terry has a way of mixing her vocals in to where it highlights her amazing harmonies and when they want her to convey the raw meek vocals they mix it in well like in Better Days and Truth.
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Reply #283 posted 02/14/10 11:54am

VoicesCarry

trueiopian said:

VoicesCarry said:



There are a few things that need to happen if Janet is to really have a fruitful creative partnership with them again.

First, Jam & Lewis need to update their sound and step it up with their production, since they veered sharply towards using samples as the foundation for an entire song by the time All For You rolled around. They haven't produced a big hit, or even really anything of note since AFY (the exception may be Gwen's Harajuku Girls and Chaka's last album) - there's a reason for that.

Second, they need to learn to press the "EDIT" button and focus on creating a streamlined album for her. No bloated Damita Jo, please.

I really feel as if her best bet is to work with them, but also work with other producers who seem to know how to get something great out of her, like Rodney (Feedback was one of her best uptempos in years - and it sounded like a Janet song should) or the Avila Brothers.

I agree that Janet should not bother doing ballads with anyone else.
[Edited 2/14/10 11:16am]


I agree.

Though sampling has always been a staple with Jimmy & Terry. Almost all of their productions have a sample. I don't have a problem with that. It's the Hip-Hop influence in their music. I don't care for Rodney but I'm confident that he can bring something new to the table working with Janet this time around. I love the demo for Not my Love. So we'll see. I would like for her to branch out and work with people you wouldn't expect too. Yea, when she works with other producers on her ballads it's a train wreak. Never Letchu Go? Greatest X? With U? They're ALWAYS making the same mistake of mixing her vocals in badly which only highlights the meekness in her voice in a very unpleasant way. Jimmy & Terry has a way of mixing her vocals in to where it highlights her amazing harmonies and when they want her to convey the raw meek vocals they mix it in well like in Better Days and Truth.


Yes, her vocals non-JJ&TL ballads are always poorly mixed. It's quite amusing, actually.

Jam & Lewis used to use samples to enhance the song - as in If or You Want This. But when the sample is the song, I draw the line.
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Reply #284 posted 02/14/10 11:57am

midiscover

Janet is a soprano? smile
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Reply #285 posted 02/14/10 12:00pm

Cinnie

I hope Janet starts sampling herself. Just starts singing something new over her own old beat. We're in a post-Janet Janet era!
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Reply #286 posted 02/14/10 12:01pm

VoicesCarry

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I hope Janet starts sampling herself. Just starts singing something new over her own old beat. We're in a post-Janet Janet era!


Well we're now at the point where shit-hoppers are sampling "Again".
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Reply #287 posted 02/14/10 12:04pm

Cinnie

VoicesCarry said:

Cinnie said:

I hope Janet starts sampling herself. Just starts singing something new over her own old beat. We're in a post-Janet Janet era!


Well we're now at the point where shit-hoppers are sampling "Again".


falloff WHERE WHERE WHERE excited
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Reply #288 posted 02/14/10 12:04pm

trueiopian

VoicesCarry said:


Yes, her vocals non-JJ&TL ballads are always poorly mixed. It's quite amusing, actually.

Jam & Lewis used to use samples to enhance the song - as in If or You Want This. But when the sample is the song, I draw the line.


True.
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Reply #289 posted 02/14/10 12:06pm

trueiopian

Cinnie said:

VoicesCarry said:



Well we're now at the point where shit-hoppers are sampling "Again".


falloff WHERE WHERE WHERE excited




LAWDD!!! falloff
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Reply #290 posted 02/14/10 12:07pm

Cinnie

trueiopian said:

LAWDD!!! falloff


that about says it!!!!!
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Reply #291 posted 02/14/10 12:09pm

trueiopian

midiscover said:

Janet is a soprano? smile


Really? Where did you read that?
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Reply #292 posted 02/14/10 12:09pm

VoicesCarry

I knew Jermaine and Ne-Yo were not talented enough to come up with something as good as Rock With U without a template. Do you think this group is getting their royalty cheques? There was no sample credited.

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Reply #293 posted 02/14/10 12:12pm

Cinnie

VoicesCarry said:

I knew Jermaine and Ne-Yo were not talented enough to come up with something as good as Rock With U without a template. Do you think this group is getting their royalty cheques? There was no sample credited.



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Cinnie said:

You will see on the credits for "Rock Wit U" that Eric Stamile is credited. He did this 2007 remix:



The Janet song is still great but my point was I am not about to cite Dupri for suddenly being a great house producer lol
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Reply #294 posted 02/14/10 12:14pm

VoicesCarry

Cinnie said:

VoicesCarry said:

I knew Jermaine and Ne-Yo were not talented enough to come up with something as good as Rock With U without a template. Do you think this group is getting their royalty cheques? There was no sample credited.



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Cinnie said:

You will see on the credits for "Rock Wit U" that Eric Stamile is credited. He did this 2007 remix:



The Janet song is still great but my point was I am not about to cite Dupri for suddenly being a great house producer lol


Was that a remix of the song I posted? lol I think Mr. Stamile stole, too.
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Reply #295 posted 02/14/10 12:14pm

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Cinnie said:



Was that a remix of the song I posted? lol I think Mr. Stamile stole, too.


nod

The one u posted is from '86 lol
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Reply #296 posted 02/14/10 12:15pm

midiscover

She's so influential! touched

They lifted the whole chorus of "That's The Way Love Goes"



DEAD @ the girl trying to sound like Janet.
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Reply #297 posted 02/14/10 12:16pm

VoicesCarry

Timmy84 said:

VoicesCarry said:



Was that a remix of the song I posted? lol I think Mr. Stamile stole, too.


nod

The one u posted is from '86 lol


lol Yeah, I think it trumps Mr. Stamile.
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Reply #298 posted 02/14/10 12:17pm

midiscover

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Janet is a soprano? smile


Really? Where did you read that?


Idk.... I forgot... I'm actually asking lol
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Reply #299 posted 02/14/10 12:18pm

Cinnie

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She's so influential! touched

They lifted the whole chorus of "That's The Way Love Goes"



DEAD @ the girl trying to sound like Janet.


lol
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