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Smittyrock70 said: WaterInYourBath said: I think author Per Nilsen referenced that date in one of his books about Prince, but I remember reading in a thread here (or at the old site Housequake), that he actually did not appear on the show that year. I've looked everywhere for that episode for a long time, but I've never found any footage of Prince on Soul Train except for his performances in 1994. No, I'm telling U he actually appeared. As a little boy (I was nine at the time - great now I'm showing my age), me, my second oldest brother (a diehard P fan who actually got me in2 his music) and my oldest brother (who liked P but was more in2 Cameo, Gap Band, and Zapp at the time) watched that episode. This was the one where P and Andre Cymone faced each other jumped and bumped heads in sort of a "hip" fashion during their performance of "WYWTMSB." At least it appeared that way 2 my second oldest brother and me. But 2 my oldest bro and several others it looked like they "kissed" 1 another. It was funny because EVERYONE was talking about that at school days later!  I'm shocked that all the old skoolers don't remember that.In addition 2 that, ole Don Cornelius (who I felt secretly thought P kissed AC as well during that performance) ran a really ran a tight ship back then and didn't play that "freak show" mess, hence the non-P-Funk appearances. U have 2 think Dirty Mind dropped just months later. That's essentially why u didn't see P throughout the '80's after that episode because he was considered 2 risque. Dick Clark felt P was "strange" as well after the infamous interview during his AB performance. |
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thatruth said: I'm not sure about that comment about Prince not embracing Black media, he really didn't have a choice but to work with Black press. It was really the opposite, the white media didn't embrace him or any Black artist back in the day unless they did disco or pop.
I remember Right On! and Soul Teen was really heavy on Prince calling him a musical prodigy, he was referred as "The Next Stevie Wonder". I also don't remember EWF being on Soul Train either, or am I wrong? "Right On" featured him much more than any other magazine in his early years. Prince even listed Cynthia Horner in his Thanks section on the inner sleeve of the "Dirty Mind" album. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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Harlepolis said: bboy87 said: guards Harlepolis from the rocks and shanks Harlepolis ain't no easy customer either  You sure ain't and I got your back. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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SoulAlive said: vainandy said: Prince never performed on "Soul Train" until the mid 1990s after both the show and his own music had fallen off. I always found it very stupid that Prince made the rounds to every white show back in the day when he was a somebody but never went on "Soul Train" until he fell off.
I think it's a shame that he waited so long.By the time he finally made an appearance on Soul Train,the show was on its last legs.Imagine if he had performed in 1981,when 'Controversy' was released.That would have him amazing! And you're correct,he was on other shows like Midnight Special,Solid Gold and American Bandstand.I can't see why he neglected Soul Train  If he had performed "Let's Work" on "Soul Train", the audience would have gone wild! Andy is a four letter word. | |
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SoulAlive said: scriptgirl said: So what did Steve write about P when he visited Paisley Park. Is Steve still alive?
Things got off to a rocky start Prince was aware of some of the stuff that Steve had written about him and he had an attitude.Steve admitted to Prince that,one of his major criticisms is that Prince has strayed too far from the '1999' album.Prince was pissed.He told Steve....
If you wanna hear '1999',then listen to the '1999' album.That album amounts to me being in the third grade,musically.That's why I stay here in Minneapolis and block out all you critics OUCH! There were a few more embarassing moments like this,but at the end of the interview,Steve said that he finally understands Prince,and actually likes him. He was telling the truth though whether Prince wanted to hear it or not. Sure enough, a lot of the new "Purple Rain" white fans left when he changed his sound after that album but I can't tell you how many countless longtime black fans I knew that were pissed with "Around The World In A Day" and even more pissed with "Parade", and it definately showed when the "Sign O The Times" movie came out and I saw about 12 people in the theater and most of them were white. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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[quote] Harlepolis said: SoulAlive said: I remember Steve Ivory (the former editor of Black Beat magazine) complaining about this.I'll never forget something that he once wrote: They (Prince and his organization) have this crazy idea that the black press doesn't "get" Prince.Fact is,maybe we "get it" too much.For example,no black journalist worth his word processor is buying that BS about Prince being racially mixed.We know that blacks come in all shades.  I was shocked at his brutal honesty,lol.
Ironically,he made these comments in a Prince cover story,when Prince invited him to Paisley Park during the D&P era.He was skeptical about going,because of Prince's earlier reluctance to do interviews in black publications. Wow!
Was that you BlaqueKnight?
I agree with that statement, wholeheartedly. One thing I noticed about the DMSR book was that it touched on how black audience supposedly viewed Prince BUT at the same time, how Prince(and members of his band) looked down on R&B R&B was the root of your craft, how do you downplay it?
This whole "Black people don't get Prince" argument was condescending & insulting. Its just another fancy way to say that black audience are idiotic and strongly one dimensional/limited when it comes to their taste. Just look at "The Black Album". I remember reading in the magazines back then that Prince was recording an album called "The Black Album" to try to get back some of his black fans. When I finally heard the album, I was surprised to hear horns and jazzy type sounds on it instead of the cold "Minneapolis Sound" he was famous for. Prince still didn't get it. True enough, the album was funk but it was still Prince still in his sound change mode which was retro. Everyone black I played it for said "Prince is still out there in La La Land". He just didn't get that the sound they wanted was the sound he had before he had crossover success and changed his sound. Yes, he always had a combination of rock and funk in his music but is was his cold modern (modern for the 1980s) Minneapolis Sound that people wanted, not a retro funk sound. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: He was telling the truth though whether Prince wanted to hear it or not. Sure enough, a lot of the new "Purple Rain" white fans left when he changed his sound after that album but I can't tell you how many countless longtime black fans I knew that were pissed with "Around The World In A Day" and even more pissed with "Parade", and it definately showed when the "Sign O The Times" movie came out and I saw about 12 people in the theater and most of them were white. From my end though, I enjoyed that period(even though I wasn't actually there ). He was in his most honest form between 80-88.
Its when he decided to jump into the mix when it comes to rappin' that made folks give him the side-eye(ESP when he made it clear in the 80s that he was anti-rap). If you can't beat 'em, join 'em, indeed | |
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Smittyrock70 said: WaterInYourBath said: I think author Per Nilsen referenced that date in one of his books about Prince, but I remember reading in a thread here (or at the old site Housequake), that he actually did not appear on the show that year. I've looked everywhere for that episode for a long time, but I've never found any footage of Prince on Soul Train except for his performances in 1994. No, I'm telling U he actually appeared. As a little boy (I was nine at the time - great now I'm showing my age), me, my second oldest brother (a diehard P fan who actually got me in2 his music) and my oldest brother (who liked P but was more in2 Cameo, Gap Band, and Zapp at the time) watched that episode. This was the one where P and Andre Cymone faced each other jumped and bumped heads in sort of a "hip" fashion during their performance of "WYWTMSB." At least it appeared that way 2 my second oldest brother and me. But 2 my oldest bro and several others it looked like they "kissed" 1 another. It was funny because EVERYONE was talking about that at school days later! I'm shocked that all the old skoolers don't remember that.I watched "Soul Train" religiously during that era and I definately would have remembered if Prince had been on there. That sounds like the "American Bandstand" episode and it was Dez that he looked like he kissed. It's not listed in the episode guide for that year either..... http://en.wikipedia.org/w...asons_1-9) Also, as SoulAlive said earlier, Sheila E. did appear on the show in 1985 and Don told her to go back and tell Prince that if he ever did his show, he was going to talk. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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Harlepolis said: vainandy said: He was telling the truth though whether Prince wanted to hear it or not. Sure enough, a lot of the new "Purple Rain" white fans left when he changed his sound after that album but I can't tell you how many countless longtime black fans I knew that were pissed with "Around The World In A Day" and even more pissed with "Parade", and it definately showed when the "Sign O The Times" movie came out and I saw about 12 people in the theater and most of them were white. From my end though, I enjoyed that period(even though I wasn't actually there ). He was in his most honest form between 80-88.
Its when he decided to jump into the mix when it comes to rappin' that made folks give him the side-eye(ESP when he made it clear in the 80s that he was anti-rap). If you can't beat 'em, join 'em, indeed I enjoy those late 1980s albums also. Actually, I love them. Would I still rather he have kept his signature sound though? Yes.
As for him starting to rap in the early 1990s, that really made him look like a fool since he had been anti-rap. And considering that rap was becoming the main thing played on black radio during that time other than slow adult contemporary music and an occassional dance song every now and then, everyone I knew said...."Look at him, he's trying hard to get his black fans back. Hell, if he hadn't changed his sound, they would have never left". Andy is a four letter word. | |
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SoulAlive said: Harlepolis said: If that Don quote is true, then maybe it was the other way around. Prince never passed up the promotion back then, performing wise, so I wouldn't think he neglected it  but maybe he did when he started to get mainstream. yeah,you're probably right.But I remember when Sheila E. appeared on Soul Train in 1985 and during the interview,Don mentioned something about Prince making an appearance.I think Sheila implied that he was "too shy" to do interviews and Don was like "Uh-uh...tell him that if he appears on this show,he's GOTTA do an interview" Damn boy, you have a memory of an elephant! You've jarred my memory and you are sooooo right. | |
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Was Sheila only on there once? Was it spring or fall '85? "Lack of home training crosses all boundaries." | |
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scriptgirl said: Was Sheila only on there once? Was it spring or fall '85? It was either the fall of 1985 or the early part of 1986. She performed "Sister Fate" and "A Love Bizarre". I don't know if she ever went on there again because I got bored with the show (R&B was becoming too crossover pop) around 1986. They aired the Sheila E. episode a few years ago on WGN back when they were showing the old episodes. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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scriptgirl said: Was Sheila only on there once? Was it spring or fall '85?
When did Soul Train start shotting for the season, because she was on the 1st episode of 85... in the fall? | |
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TD3 said: scriptgirl said: Was Sheila only on there once? Was it spring or fall '85?
When did Soul Train start shotting for the season, because she was on the 1st episode of 85... in the fall? They always shot in seasons that I recall. I remember they used to do re-runs in the late 70s. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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Harlepolis said: vainandy said: He was telling the truth though whether Prince wanted to hear it or not. Sure enough, a lot of the new "Purple Rain" white fans left when he changed his sound after that album but I can't tell you how many countless longtime black fans I knew that were pissed with "Around The World In A Day" and even more pissed with "Parade", and it definately showed when the "Sign O The Times" movie came out and I saw about 12 people in the theater and most of them were white. From my end though, I enjoyed that period(even though I wasn't actually there ). He was in his most honest form between 80-88.
Its when he decided to jump into the mix when it comes to rappin' that made folks give him the side-eye(ESP when he made it clear in the 80s that he was anti-rap). If you can't beat 'em, join 'em, indeed Definitely would agree. 80-88 period was 2 P as '72-80 was 2 Stevie IMHO. |
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thatruth said: Was Boosty ever on Soul Train?
He performed "The Pinochio Theory & Munchies For Your Love" It aired one time, never shown a rerun... Same with Ray Parker & Raydio And nope!!!...Prince never appeared in his hey day Just in the early 90's | |
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TD3 said: SoulAlive said: yeah,you're probably right.But I remember when Sheila E. appeared on Soul Train in 1985 and during the interview,Don mentioned something about Prince making an appearance.I think Sheila implied that he was "too shy" to do interviews and Don was like "Uh-uh...tell him that if he appears on this show,he's GOTTA do an interview" Damn boy, you have a memory of an elephant! You've jarred my memory and you are sooooo right. | |
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vainandy said: I watched "Soul Train" religiously during that era and I definately would have remembered if Prince had been on there. That sounds like the "American Bandstand" episode and it was Dez that he looked like he kissed. It's not listed in the episode guide for that year either..... http://en.wikipedia.org/w...asons_1-9) Yeah,if anyone wants to find out if Prince (or any other artist) ever appeared on Soul Train,just google "Soul Train episode list".Prince did not appear on Soul Train in 1980...his only appearance was in 1994. Also, as SoulAlive said earlier, Sheila E. did appear on the show in 1985 and Don told her to go back and tell Prince that if he ever did his show, he was going to talk.
So,you remember that too? | |
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Harlepolis said: errant said: at the beginning of his career he was in the black and white media, doing intervews, whatever. when he was hot, he wasn't really doing any media. when he needed exposure again, he was back to working with the media again. black and white. He did 2 of the biggest from each outlet; MTV & RollingStones. I don't remember him giving ANY interviews to Ebony or BET  or Right On! or Black Beat or Jet and back when I was little they had they had that sucka on the cover every other damned week. They rode his jock pretty hard, and lavished him with the praise one usually reserves for a Messiah, but ole boy wouldn't grant interviews or statements to the black press for nonthin'  | |
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Harlepolis said: SoulAlive said: I remember Steve Ivory (the former editor of Black Beat magazine) complaining about this.I'll never forget something that he once wrote: They (Prince and his organization) have this crazy idea that the black press doesn't "get" Prince.Fact is,maybe we "get it" too much.For example,no black journalist worth his word processor is buying that BS about Prince being racially mixed.We know that blacks come in all shades. I was shocked at his brutal honesty,lol.
Ironically,he made these comments in a Prince cover story,when Prince invited him to Paisley Park during the D&P era.He was skeptical about going,because of Prince's earlier reluctance to do interviews in black publications. Wow!
Was that you BlaqueKnight?
I agree with that statement, wholeheartedly. One thing I noticed about the DMSR book was that it touched on how black audience supposedly viewed Prince BUT at the same time, how Prince(and members of his band) looked down on R&B R&B was the root of your craft, how do you downplay it?
This whole "Black people don't get Prince" argument was condescending & insulting. Its just another fancy way to say that black audience are idiotic and strongly one dimensional/limited when it comes to their taste. But turned out, those are the same audience who embraced him when his episode with Warner Bros didn't turn out well. Even though I agree with the argument about "record labels being high collar plantations", I've always thought that he was doing this charade for the wrong reasons, I bet he wasn't "racially mixed" when he started to write Slave on his cheek seeing that it wouldn't have served his convenience. BTW, do you know where I could read the interview online? Remember that "Funk is dead" shit he said when The Time came out? "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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Ottensen said: Harlepolis said: He did 2 of the biggest from each outlet; MTV & RollingStones. I don't remember him giving ANY interviews to Ebony or BET or Right On! or Black Beat or Jet and back when I was little they had they had that sucka on the cover every other damned week. They rode his jock pretty hard, and lavished him with the praise one usually reserves for a Messiah, but ole boy wouldn't grant interviews or statements to the black press for nonthin' Yeah,that's one thing that annoyed me about Prince back then I understand that he was trying to crossover and didn't want to be pigeonholed as "just another black artist making R&B music" but dayum! He took it to the extreme.I mean,if he's gonna appear on Solid Gold in 1983,why not make an appearance on Soul Train too? | |
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vainandy said: If he had performed "Let's Work" on "Soul Train", the audience would have gone wild!
The second song should be "Priavte Joy". | |
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TD3 said: scriptgirl said: Was Sheila only on there once? Was it spring or fall '85?
When did Soul Train start shotting for the season, because she was on the 1st episode of 85... in the fall? Sheila E. appeared on Soul Train on October 12,1985....it was the second episode of the new season.The other musical guest was Five Star. | |
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bboy87 said: Harlepolis said: Wow!
Was that you BlaqueKnight?
I agree with that statement, wholeheartedly. One thing I noticed about the DMSR book was that it touched on how black audience supposedly viewed Prince BUT at the same time, how Prince(and members of his band) looked down on R&B R&B was the root of your craft, how do you downplay it?
This whole "Black people don't get Prince" argument was condescending & insulting. Its just another fancy way to say that black audience are idiotic and strongly one dimensional/limited when it comes to their taste. But turned out, those are the same audience who embraced him when his episode with Warner Bros didn't turn out well. Even though I agree with the argument about "record labels being high collar plantations", I've always thought that he was doing this charade for the wrong reasons, I bet he wasn't "racially mixed" when he started to write Slave on his cheek seeing that it wouldn't have served his convenience. BTW, do you know where I could read the interview online? Remember that "Funk is dead" shit he said when The Time came out? Aw damn  not that too, I only knew of the "Jazz is dead" reference from "All the critics" song. | |
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Smittyrock70 said: WaterInYourBath said: I think author Per Nilsen referenced that date in one of his books about Prince, but I remember reading in a thread here (or at the old site Housequake), that he actually did not appear on the show that year. I've looked everywhere for that episode for a long time, but I've never found any footage of Prince on Soul Train except for his performances in 1994. No, I'm telling U he actually appeared. As a little boy (I was nine at the time - great now I'm showing my age), me, my second oldest brother (a diehard P fan who actually got me in2 his music) and my oldest brother (who liked P but was more in2 Cameo, Gap Band, and Zapp at the time) watched that episode. This was the one where P and Andre Cymone faced each other jumped and bumped heads in sort of a "hip" fashion during their performance of "WYWTMSB." At least it appeared that way 2 my second oldest brother and me. But 2 my oldest bro and several others it looked like they "kissed" 1 another. It was funny because EVERYONE was talking about that at school days later! I'm shocked that all the old skoolers don't remember that.Nope,Prince wasn't on Soul Train during that period 
SOUL TRAIN EPISODES Season Nine 1979-1980) Starting with episode 319, the theme changed to a prototype of "Up on Soul Train" by The Waters. Season episode # Series episode # Guests Original airdate 1. 303. A Tribute to Minnie Riperton (featuring Stevie Wonder, Wintley Phipps, Lorraine Fields and Larry Vickers) September 15, 1979 2. 304. Deniece Williams / Apollo September 22, 1979 3. 305. Shalamar / Tata Vega September 29, 1979 4. 306. Bonnie Pointer / Switch October 6, 1979 5. 307. David Ruffin / Heatwave October 13, 1979 6. 308. Rick James / Teena Marie October 20, 1979 7. 309. Billy Preston / Creme D'Coca October 27, 1979 8. 310. The Bar-Kays / McFadden & Whitehead November 3, 1979 9. 311. Herb Alpert / Dynasty November 10, 1979 10. 312. Salute to Smokey Robinson / Keith & Darrell November 17, 1979 11. 313. The Whispers / Vernon Butch November 24, 1979 12. 314. Salute to Aretha Franklin December 1, 1979 13. 315. The Commodores December 8, 1979 14. 316. Johnnie Taylor / Lakeside December 15, 1979 15. 317. War February 2, 1980 16. 318. Chic / High Inergy February 9, 1980 17. 319. Lou Rawls / Narada Michael Walden March 1, 1980 18. 320. Shalamar / The Gap Band March 8, 1980 19. 321. The Whispers / Patrice Rushen March 15, 1980 20. 322. L.T.D. / Cheryl Lynn 21,Harold Melvin & the Blue Notes / Brass Construction March 29, 1980 22. 324. Sister Sledge / Randy Brown April 5, 1980 23. 325. The Spinners / Con Funk Shun April 12, 1980 24. 326. Captain & Tennille / The Ritchie Family April 19, 1980 25. 327. Stephanie Mills / Roy Ayers April 26, 1980 26. 328. Village People / Side Effect May 3, 1980 27. 329. Jermaine Jackson / Dramatics May 10, 1980 28. 330. Salute to Gladys Knight & the Pips May 17, 1980 29. 331. Ray, Goodman & Brown / Ray Parker, Jr. & Raydio May 24, 30. 332. Salute to the Temptations / Syreeta Wright May 31, 1980 31. 333. Leon Haywood / L.A. Boppers June 7, 1980 32. 334. Salute to Barry White SOUL TRAIN EPISODES Season 10 (1980-1981) 1. 335. Brothers Johnson / Rockie Robbins September 20, 1980 2. 336. L.T.D. / Seventh Wonder / Kurtis Blow September 27, 1980 3. 337. Larry Graham / Irene Cara October 4, 1980 4. 338. Rick James / The S.O.S. Band October 11, 1980 5. 339. Tyrone Davis / Teena Marie / Comedian: Tom Dressen October 18, 1980 6. 340. Teddy Pendergrass / The Jones Girls October 25, 1980 7. 341. Cameo / Edmund Sylvers November 1, 1980 8. 342. Michael Henderson / LaToya Jackson November 8, 1980 9. 343. Shalamar / Mtume November 15, 1980 10. 344. Lakeside / Geraldine Hunt November 22, 1980 11. 345. Lenny Williams / Yellow Magic Orchestra November 29, 1980 12. 346. Ray, Goodman & Brown / Gently December 6, 1980 13. 347. Al Green / The Dells January 10, 1981 14. 348. Dynasty / Tierra January 17, 1981 15. 349. The Stylistics / Spyro Gyra January 24, 1981 16. 350. The Chi-Lites / Patrice Rushen January 31, 1981 17. 351. Deniece Williams / The Gap Band March 7, 1981 18. 352. The Bar-Kays / Yarbrough & Peoples / Robert Winters March 14, 1981 19. 353. The Pointer Sisters / Con Funk Shun March 21, 1981 20. 354. The Whispers / Carrie Lucas March 28, 1981 21. 355. Rufus / Dee Dee Sharp April 4, 1981 22. 356. Billy Preston / Lakeside 23. 357. Shalamar / Teena Marie April 18, 1981 24. 358. A Taste of Honey / Jerry Knight April 25, 1981 25. 359. Sister Sledge / Atlantic Starr May 2, 1981 26. 360. The Spinners / Skyy May 9, 1981 27. 361. Sugarhill Gang / Patrice Rushen / Dance routine: Shabba Doo May 16, 1981 28. 362. Betty Wright / Funkadelic / Soul Train History Book Segment May 23, 1981 29. 363. Bill Withers / Side Effect May 30, 1981 30. 364. Jermaine Jackson / T-Connection June 6, 1981 31. 365. Rick James / Brenda Russell June 13, 1981 32. 366. Cameo / Mantra June 20,1981 | |
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thatruth said: scriptgirl said: WTF is soul teen? Any pics of that mag?
Soul Teen later became Black Beat. OMG,I remember Soul Teen! I actually bought an issue in 1979.
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scriptgirl said: Is Steve Ivory still alive?
He most certainly is When MJ died,I saw Steve on one of those cable TV shows,talking about MJ's life and career.
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SoulAlive said: Smittyrock70 said: No, I'm telling U he actually appeared. As a little boy (I was nine at the time - great now I'm showing my age), me, my second oldest brother (a diehard P fan who actually got me in2 his music) and my oldest brother (who liked P but was more in2 Cameo, Gap Band, and Zapp at the time) watched that episode. This was the one where P and Andre Cymone faced each other jumped and bumped heads in sort of a "hip" fashion during their performance of "WYWTMSB." At least it appeared that way 2 my second oldest brother and me. But 2 my oldest bro and several others it looked like they "kissed" 1 another. It was funny because EVERYONE was talking about that at school days later! I'm shocked that all the old skoolers don't remember that.Nope,Prince wasn't on Soul Train during that period
SOUL TRAIN EPISODES Season Nine 1979-1980) Starting with episode 319, the theme changed to a prototype of "Up on Soul Train" by The Waters. Season episode # Series episode # Guests Original airdate 1. 303. A Tribute to Minnie Riperton (featuring Stevie Wonder, Wintley Phipps, Lorraine Fields and Larry Vickers) September 15, 1979 2. 304. Deniece Williams / Apollo September 22, 1979 3. 305. Shalamar / Tata Vega September 29, 1979 4. 306. Bonnie Pointer / Switch October 6, 1979 5. 307. David Ruffin / Heatwave October 13, 1979 6. 308. Rick James / Teena Marie October 20, 1979 7. 309. Billy Preston / Creme D'Coca October 27, 1979 8. 310. The Bar-Kays / McFadden & Whitehead November 3, 1979 9. 311. Herb Alpert / Dynasty November 10, 1979 10. 312. Salute to Smokey Robinson / Keith & Darrell November 17, 1979 11. 313. The Whispers / Vernon Butch November 24, 1979 12. 314. Salute to Aretha Franklin December 1, 1979 13. 315. The Commodores December 8, 1979 14. 316. Johnnie Taylor / Lakeside December 15, 1979 15. 317. War February 2, 1980 16. 318. Chic / High Inergy February 9, 1980 17. 319. Lou Rawls / Narada Michael Walden March 1, 1980 18. 320. Shalamar / The Gap Band March 8, 1980 19. 321. The Whispers / Patrice Rushen March 15, 1980 20. 322. L.T.D. / Cheryl Lynn 21,Harold Melvin & the Blue Notes / Brass Construction March 29, 1980 22. 324. Sister Sledge / Randy Brown April 5, 1980 23. 325. The Spinners / Con Funk Shun April 12, 1980 24. 326. Captain & Tennille / The Ritchie Family April 19, 1980 25. 327. Stephanie Mills / Roy Ayers April 26, 1980 26. 328. Village People / Side Effect May 3, 1980 27. 329. Jermaine Jackson / Dramatics May 10, 1980 28. 330. Salute to Gladys Knight & the Pips May 17, 1980 29. 331. Ray, Goodman & Brown / Ray Parker, Jr. & Raydio May 24, 30. 332. Salute to the Temptations / Syreeta Wright May 31, 1980 31. 333. Leon Haywood / L.A. Boppers June 7, 1980 32. 334. Salute to Barry White SOUL TRAIN EPISODES Season 10 (1980-1981) 1. 335. Brothers Johnson / Rockie Robbins September 20, 1980 2. 336. L.T.D. / Seventh Wonder / Kurtis Blow September 27, 1980 3. 337. Larry Graham / Irene Cara October 4, 1980 4. 338. Rick James / The S.O.S. Band October 11, 1980 5. 339. Tyrone Davis / Teena Marie / Comedian: Tom Dressen October 18, 1980 6. 340. Teddy Pendergrass / The Jones Girls October 25, 1980 7. 341. Cameo / Edmund Sylvers November 1, 1980 8. 342. Michael Henderson / LaToya Jackson November 8, 1980 9. 343. Shalamar / Mtume November 15, 1980 10. 344. Lakeside / Geraldine Hunt November 22, 1980 11. 345. Lenny Williams / Yellow Magic Orchestra November 29, 1980 12. 346. Ray, Goodman & Brown / Gently December 6, 1980 13. 347. Al Green / The Dells January 10, 1981 14. 348. Dynasty / Tierra January 17, 1981 15. 349. The Stylistics / Spyro Gyra January 24, 1981 16. 350. The Chi-Lites / Patrice Rushen January 31, 1981 17. 351. Deniece Williams / The Gap Band March 7, 1981 18. 352. The Bar-Kays / Yarbrough & Peoples / Robert Winters March 14, 1981 19. 353. The Pointer Sisters / Con Funk Shun March 21, 1981 20. 354. The Whispers / Carrie Lucas March 28, 1981 21. 355. Rufus / Dee Dee Sharp April 4, 1981 22. 356. Billy Preston / Lakeside 23. 357. Shalamar / Teena Marie April 18, 1981 24. 358. A Taste of Honey / Jerry Knight April 25, 1981 25. 359. Sister Sledge / Atlantic Starr May 2, 1981 26. 360. The Spinners / Skyy May 9, 1981 27. 361. Sugarhill Gang / Patrice Rushen / Dance routine: Shabba Doo May 16, 1981 28. 362. Betty Wright / Funkadelic / Soul Train History Book Segment May 23, 1981 29. 363. Bill Withers / Side Effect May 30, 1981 30. 364. Jermaine Jackson / T-Connection June 6, 1981 31. 365. Rick James / Brenda Russell June 13, 1981 32. 366. Cameo / Mantra June 20,1981 I stand corrected. That was the Midnite Special appearance with the "head bump". Thanks 4 straightening that out. |
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bboy87 said: Harlepolis said: Wow!
Was that you BlaqueKnight?
I agree with that statement, wholeheartedly. One thing I noticed about the DMSR book was that it touched on how black audience supposedly viewed Prince BUT at the same time, how Prince(and members of his band) looked down on R&B R&B was the root of your craft, how do you downplay it?
This whole "Black people don't get Prince" argument was condescending & insulting. Its just another fancy way to say that black audience are idiotic and strongly one dimensional/limited when it comes to their taste. But turned out, those are the same audience who embraced him when his episode with Warner Bros didn't turn out well. Even though I agree with the argument about "record labels being high collar plantations", I've always thought that he was doing this charade for the wrong reasons, I bet he wasn't "racially mixed" when he started to write Slave on his cheek seeing that it wouldn't have served his convenience. BTW, do you know where I could read the interview online? Remember that "Funk is dead" shit he said when The Time came out? It's interesting Prince himself would say funk or jazz is dead and yet over 20 years later he's still doing funk, jazz and R&B. I don't know what he was trying to achieve back in the '80s with those comments besides trying to be an all-out rocker. Prince was never ONE thing anyways. | |
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Timmy84 said: bboy87 said: Remember that "Funk is dead" shit he said when The Time came out? It's interesting Prince himself would say funk or jazz is dead and yet over 20 years later he's still doing funk, jazz and R&B. I don't know what he was trying to achieve back in the '80s with those comments besides trying to be an all-out rocker. Prince was never ONE thing anyways. he was trying to say "out with the old, in with the new" with a little punk-ass thrown in to say "i'm the new" | |
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