I want to get into but ehhhh ijust dont have the time.
oh yeah the title is extremely tasteless but ehhhhh....ernest. | |
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ehuffnsd said: because when you talk about gay men and mention positive it's safe to bet you are talking about one thing UTTERLY TASTELESS and i've asked for this thread to be or removed.
That's because you're projecting your situation onto a thread about a DVD. That is not my problem, it's yours. I'm not hating on you. It's unfortunate that you have HIV, but you have to step out of that gay/HIV head set and just go with it. I'm gay, and don't have HIV. "Positive" doesn't equal "negative" or HIV or AIDS or STD or gay or whatever. George Michael is positively one of the best voices in the industry. Period. THAT was my point. | |
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ernestsewell said: bboy87 said: you kinda scared me for a moment
I'm sneaky like that. you did it on purpose, you've even copped to it. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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ehuffnsd said: ernestsewell said: I'm sneaky like that. you did it on purpose, you've even copped to it. And you've, unfortunately, copped to being overly sensitive about a WORD. It's not like I dropped the N bomb or something. Get over yourselves, and let's talk about the DVD. | |
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ernestsewell said: ehuffnsd said: you did it on purpose, you've even copped to it. And you've, unfortunately, copped to being overly sensitive about a WORD. It's not like I dropped the N bomb or something. Get over yourselves, and let's talk about the DVD. no you used someone's possible health as a way to increase traffic to your thread. It's disgusting and hurtful and helps further the stigma of HIV/AIDS and gay people in general. sorry but you don't get off for doing that. and if you wanna discuss the DVD there was a thread all ready http://prince.org/msg/8/324177 [Edited 12/13/09 14:05pm] You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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ehuffnsd said: ernestsewell said: And you've, unfortunately, copped to being overly sensitive about a WORD. It's not like I dropped the N bomb or something. Get over yourselves, and let's talk about the DVD. no you used someone's possible health as a way to increase traffic to your thread. It's disgusting and hurtful and helps further the stigma of HIV/AIDS and gay people in general. sorry but you don't get off for doing that. You aren't here to put me on trial either, so that whole "you don't get off" argument is invalid to me. I don't recognize it in my life. You act as though you're the only one with HIV or the only one effected by it. We ALL know someone with HIV, so let the soapbox go. And most times, they aren't uptight about it. What if I put "George Michael Is Cold" in the title? Would everyone with a case of the sniffles get in an uproar about it? Or how about "George Michael Is A Pig", would those who have H1N1 get all butt hurt about it? What about "George Michael Is Hot", would Floridians start yelling "I'm hot too! It's 94 down here with 80% humidity! How dare Ernest say "HOT" on his thread, KNOWING he'll get a rise out of people?!?!?! It's disgusting!" | |
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ernestsewell said: ehuffnsd said: no you used someone's possible health as a way to increase traffic to your thread. It's disgusting and hurtful and helps further the stigma of HIV/AIDS and gay people in general. sorry but you don't get off for doing that. You aren't here to put me on trial either, so that whole "you don't get off" argument is invalid to me. I don't recognize it in my life. You act as though you're the only one with HIV or the only one effected by it. We ALL know someone with HIV, so let the soapbox go. And most times, they aren't uptight about it. What if I put "George Michael Is Cold" in the title? Would everyone with a case of the sniffles get in an uproar about it? Or how about "George Michael Is A Pig", would those who have H1N1 get all butt hurt about it? What about "George Michael Is Hot", would Floridians start yelling "I'm hot too! It's 94 down here with 80% humidity! How dare Ernest say "HOT" on his thread, KNOWING he'll get a rise out of people?!?!?! It's disgusting!" Other people who posted on this thread thought it was tacky and disrespectful. It has nothing to do with the HIV status of the posters. | |
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ernestsewell said: ehuffnsd said: no you used someone's possible health as a way to increase traffic to your thread. It's disgusting and hurtful and helps further the stigma of HIV/AIDS and gay people in general. sorry but you don't get off for doing that. You aren't here to put me on trial either, so that whole "you don't get off" argument is invalid to me. I don't recognize it in my life. You act as though you're the only one with HIV or the only one effected by it. We ALL know someone with HIV, so let the soapbox go. And most times, they aren't uptight about it. What if I put "George Michael Is Cold" in the title? Would everyone with a case of the sniffles get in an uproar about it? Or how about "George Michael Is A Pig", would those who have H1N1 get all butt hurt about it? What about "George Michael Is Hot", would Floridians start yelling "I'm hot too! It's 94 down here with 80% humidity! How dare Ernest say "HOT" on his thread, KNOWING he'll get a rise out of people?!?!?! It's disgusting!" you knew exactly what people would think, you admitted that. that is why i'm calling you out. it was you purposely used peoples biases and sterotypes to bait and draw attention to your thread. had it been an honest mistake you wouldn't have me doing this right now. and like i said hopefully this will be moot once whoever is on mod duty responds to me report. [Edited 12/13/09 14:23pm] You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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ernestsewell said: ehuffnsd said: no you used someone's possible health as a way to increase traffic to your thread. It's disgusting and hurtful and helps further the stigma of HIV/AIDS and gay people in general. sorry but you don't get off for doing that. You aren't here to put me on trial either, so that whole "you don't get off" argument is invalid to me. I don't recognize it in my life. You act as though you're the only one with HIV or the only one effected by it. We ALL know someone with HIV, so let the soapbox go. And most times, they aren't uptight about it. What if I put "George Michael Is Cold" in the title? Would everyone with a case of the sniffles get in an uproar about it? Or how about "George Michael Is A Pig", would those who have H1N1 get all butt hurt about it? What about "George Michael Is Hot", would Floridians start yelling "I'm hot too! It's 94 down here with 80% humidity! How dare Ernest say "HOT" on his thread, KNOWING he'll get a rise out of people?!?!?! It's disgusting!" | |
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Vendetta1 said: ernestsewell said: You aren't here to put me on trial either, so that whole "you don't get off" argument is invalid to me. I don't recognize it in my life. You act as though you're the only one with HIV or the only one effected by it. We ALL know someone with HIV, so let the soapbox go. And most times, they aren't uptight about it. What if I put "George Michael Is Cold" in the title? Would everyone with a case of the sniffles get in an uproar about it? Or how about "George Michael Is A Pig", would those who have H1N1 get all butt hurt about it? What about "George Michael Is Hot", would Floridians start yelling "I'm hot too! It's 94 down here with 80% humidity! How dare Ernest say "HOT" on his thread, KNOWING he'll get a rise out of people?!?!?! It's disgusting!" it's easier to call me overly sensitive and dismiss me because i am positive. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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ehuffnsd said: Vendetta1 said: Multiple people on this thread have said the same thing about it being tasteless. You seem to be ignoring them and focusing in on Eric.
it's easier to call me overly sensitive and dismiss me because i am positive. | |
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Vendetta1 said: Multiple people on this thread have said the same thing about it being tasteless. You seem to be ignoring them and focusing in on Eric.
This is a must have DVD for any George Michael fan! I only wish that the whole concert were included. I still with the FAITH tour had been released, but there is a lot of audio out there in the usual places. I have some of it. I really wish the Unplugged DVD would come out. What a great show that one was too. | |
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ehuffnsd said: Vendetta1 said: Multiple people on this thread have said the same thing about it being tasteless. You seem to be ignoring them and focusing in on Eric.
it's easier to call me overly sensitive and dismiss me because i am positive. Yeah, that's it. I hate all HIV+ people, even those I talk to every day. You got me. | |
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ernestsewell said: Vendetta1 said: Multiple people on this thread have said the same thing about it being tasteless. You seem to be ignoring them and focusing in on Eric.
This is a must have DVD for any George Michael fan! I only wish that the whole concert were included. I still with the FAITH tour had been released, but there is a lot of audio out there in the usual places. I have some of it. I really wish the Unplugged DVD would come out. What a great show that one was too. | |
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ernestsewell said: ehuffnsd said: it's easier to call me overly sensitive and dismiss me because i am positive. Yeah, that's it. I hate all HIV+ people, even those I talk to every day. You got me. i'm not saying you do. i'm saying it was tasteless and feeds into a society of ignorance, shame, guilt and hate. words have power you should be careful how you use them. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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Vendetta1 said: ehuffnsd said: it's easier to call me overly sensitive and dismiss me because i am positive. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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ehuffnsd said: ernestsewell said: Yeah, that's it. I hate all HIV+ people, even those I talk to every day. You got me. i'm not saying you do. i'm saying it was tasteless and feeds into a society of ignorance, shame, guilt and hate. words have power you should be careful how you use them. My point stands how people can take it to a NEGATIVE place by saying the word POSITIVE. That speaks more to people's headsets than it does the facts about this thread, which is about the BluRay DVD. | |
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the title can just be changed..... "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: the title can just be changed..... It could but then it wouldn't have gotten the attention Ernest wanted from it. Hell, he even mentioned it on a post to this thread. | |
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bboy87 said: the title can just be changed.....
Yeah it can. | |
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