http://www.cmt.com/news/h...aphs.jhtml

Yeah and how many of them are as big as Prince. Prince can't be a country star anyway, hes not corny enough.

it's not always true, taylor swift gave me a hand job backstage once. she then tweeted about it to piss off the jonas brother dude that had just dumped her. she then wrote a song about it called teardrops on my guitar. the record company forced her to change the word come to tear for the final version though

This has two aspects:

The first I will leave unstated. In nearly 30 years, I have have never been chased away from Prince by how he treats his fans. Indeed, if Prince was the type of person who was so driven to meet unrealistic expections of fans equivalent to 23 hours non-stop autographing without even being able to take a pee break then I would not like Prince as much. The problem with this type of Country music is that it is too constrained by ridgid rules and expectations by its traditional fan bases.

The second is that you have misinterpreted the article in your eagerness to apply it to Prince. It is just one person's whinge about the current generation of country musicians for not being dictated to by fans. It criticises Country artists:
- Who refused to give fans autographs,
- That don't realise that fans are the reason they are allowed to go onstage and sing,
- That feel they don't owe their career to their fans,
- Who act like spoiled kids,
- Who let themsleves become so isolated in their own little world that they are not fully aware of what's happening outside their tour bus and the backstage catering area, and
- that mistreat people who pay their hard-earned money for their concerts, CDs and merchandising.

In other words - Country artists get the same complaints as every other artist does in fan mags and internet forums.

And once again I have to say:

If my grandmother had wheels she'd be a rollerskate...

that can be said for all types of genres

all you ever do here is bitch on him in every fucking thread you start

why the fuck are you even here still if you think he's such an asshole ?
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I can't stand country music.

sidestep:

"The One You Wanna See " sounds like a country pop tune hit

Chapman-like obsessed

Its just unbelievable, isn't it? Bart, do you really have nothing better to do? You're so sad!

You guys should have seem him back in the days of PPML and the early Org incarnations - such an enthusiastic little puppy, ready to give anyone any fact or figure regarding Prince and in a very positive way. How times change - like fruit that's rotted and gone sour

Huggiebear said:

That is a very uninformed statement.

ernestsewell said:

True. I hate country music, but out of the top 10 biggest selling albums of the 1990's, at least three of them were by Garth Brooks, selling more than 15 million every time.

Mindflux said:

Thats why he is obsessed. He had an already unhealthy affintiy for the man to where he perosnalized Princes actions. So in essence he was a huge Prince Stan who is pissed off just like that chick who shot or stabbed Selena.

UGH if he would end up playing country all my cd's are up 4 sale

Those backwards, hillbilly country singers have not always been as friendly as they seem now. It's about selling records and business. tehy don't give a damn anymore than anybody else does.

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Wow...I like some country music singers like Johnny Cash and Winonna Judd, etc. but have you ever heard the phrase "comparing apples to oranges?" P being a country music singer is a supposition that is ludicrous from the git-go! What does one have to do with the other?!

Bart is like org royalty around here, bitches. Respect.

I sort of agree with this.
Garth Brooks once signed every single autograph requested of him from his fans at a show... the process took hours and hours and hours. But he wanted all of them to feel special---he didn't care at all that it decreased the value of his signature


And like Prince, Kenney Chesney is also secretly gay and in the closet. But unlike Prince, most of his fans are straight and conservative--and they still look past all of that because of the way he treats them.

thank you harle.. right click.

TD3 said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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A vast majority of country stars don't write their own songs. They get the songs from teams of song writers that work out of Nashville therefore the artist have to go out of their way to accomodate their fans in order to make a living since they are never going to receive royalties.

In addtion, country fans are just more loyal most only listen to country music and for some reason have attached moral values and the American way to this style of music. The hardcore country fan is not going to stary to any other music.

Ohh larwd.....

laurarichardson said:

Stupid, stupid, stupid. That is just the dumbest thing I've heard you say in .....well probably a week or so. Country songs aren't stored at some proverbial sperm bank for a country artist to birth when they feel the need.

Brad Paisley, one of the biggest musicians in country music who plays six different types of guitars - had a major hand in writing every song on his latest album: http://en.wikipedia.org/w...rday_Night

Toby Keith, who I can't stand but acknowledge success he's had, wrote, or cowrote every song on his latest album: http://en.wikipedia.org/w...rican_Ride

Hell, even Carrie Underwood is at least putting her two cents in on lyrics on a good handful of her songs, and being a part of the process as much as she can: http://en.wikipedia.org/w...d_album%29

Now, here comes the part, dear Laura, where you are gearing up to type that Paisley and Keith are exceptions to the rule, and that they are only a couple in the large community who write their own songs. Or, you're going to argue that the songs that Underwood or Chesney cowrites aren't hits, and it's those songs from that famous factory of tunes owned and operated by some magical group of music gnomes in Nashville are the ones that end up being the singles.

Also, for the sake of you not looking like a buffoon in the future, educate yourself on "royalties". An artist, as well as band members, all stand to make different monies from an album. Producers get a royalty, if the contract is written that way (and I would bet most times it is). The songwriter gets a major royalty of course. The Pretenders used to bitch about Rush Limbaugh using one of their songs as a bumper in and out of commercials....until the royalty checks started coming in. Rick James shut up about it too. So did Coolio. The band, as players - if they played on a song, gets a royalty for performance. It's all very complicated, which is why a lot of artists get ripped off in the industry, for lack of good planning ,and knowledge on these things. And I certainly don't know the ins and outs of all of it.

But let's say, based on that ridiculous argument you put out, that Brad Paisley didn't write ANY of his songs. He's due to get NO royalties from his album, that, let's say, sells 5 million copies. Seems a bit pointless to even be in the business at that point, doesn't it? He gets no money for playing, singing, or anything else on the album. Just doesn't. "Oh, that's why he tours all the time." Okay fine, we know artists make the bulk of money from touring, opposed to album sales.

So Paisley goes out of his way to accommodate fans, yet to what end? He's not charging $10 a pop for an autograph or a picture on a cell phone. So why do it? Why be nice to fans, if you're not going to get anything from it? Just so they'll buy a concert ticket next tour? Seems a bit dumb, doesn't it?

Now, let's say the truth: Paisley cowrote all the songs on his album. He gets that portion of the songwriting royalty. He'll also get a performance royalty because he's the main performer. Cha-ching. If he produces the music, that's an even bigger cut. CHA-ching! Now THAT makes it worth while to be good to your fans. You work on a product, give it your best, sell it to your audience, and follow up by just being a nice person; not promising nonsense for $77, or $100, or even $25 on some abandoned website.

ernestsewell said:

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Are you on crack!!! I did not say country songs were stored anywhere and I did not say all country artist use songwriters but a vast majority of them do.

You can easily look this up and check out the loads of interviews with country artist and songwriters on CMT.

You can't take a dozen or so artist out of the hundreds in the genre and claim I don't know what I am speaking of.

Being arrogant is one thing but just being plain uninformed is a different story. Get help for your issues.

The vast majority of country artist don't write their own songs therefore they are not making as much money as the would if they did so they have to hustle a little bit more than other artist in other genre thus you have "fanfare" and more fan events.

Your post is long and boring and does not address the whole point of country artist being fan friendly because they kind of have not choice.
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laurarichardson said:

Stop smoking crack.