TD3 said:

more often than not, the press in the US doesn't acknowledge the death of anyone of ANY color unless they are well-known. half the people on this list wouldn't qualify whether they were white or black.

Timmy84 said:

that guy was murdered...i read that he raped some gurl and she killed him.

graecophilos said:

I don't recall Milton Supman aka Soup Sales nor songwriter Vic Mizzy being all that "accomplished" but their deaths were duly noted .....being apart of popular pop culture. No issues with that at all, I remember both gentlemen fondly.

At the same time, I'm not one to hand-wring, it is what it is. If we don't think ours are getting their props, that's our responsibility to acknowledge our own..... blow our own horn. Thank goodness for the Internet.

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errant said:

Dewrede question was just fine, you don't know unless you ask.

Allow me to use the analogy of segregation: being a child that lived through it. Everything fine as long as the power that be (whites) get to control or dictated the terms of our existence. It's always been when blacks do something for themselves, without white control, input, nor "approval".... we get questions of why do you have all black this or that. Such talk is gibberish..... that we've ever lived in a color blind society, that people are acknowledge/judge by the same rules and/or criteria. They may not have been well known or important to you and yours (that's OK) but they were to me and mine.

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I didn't know that Gwen Guthrie had died!!! this list is so sad, neither did I know that the guy from H-Town had died too.

Yeah and umm this list has to be pretty old too since they have Levi Stubbs of "The Four Tops" listed as still alive when he passed a year ago.

BoOTyLiCioUs said:

absolutely untrue. the girl, who was underage, falsely accused him of trying to rape her and her boyfriend is the one who murdered him.
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missfee said:

Okay, but Levi Stubbs got soem coverage. But what do you expect? His own funeral live broadcast?

The reason it was not reported more vividly is, that people didn't care too much, and that
's not because he was black.

If tomorrow the Turtle's lead singer would die, noone would care as well.

graecophilos said:

Okay you totally misread my post. I was just stating that the list was a bit outdated. I said nothing about his lack of "funeral coverage". Please read closer next time. Thanks.

I just started reading this list and so far, the majority of men that have passed away on this list has died from HIV/Aids complications

missfee said:

i was not talking to you directly, I just yoused your post to state my opinion.

It's one bad thing about the English language: you can be directed at so many things, 6 different things in German I guess.

and I meant you, as in YOU folks.

pennylover said:

Did Luther die of AIDS too?

graecophilos said:

I have no idea but it was a rumor going around after the weight loss that he had HIV

graecophilos said:

Yoused is not a word and "you folks" is so ignorant, dude you have a lot to learn. lol

graecophilos said:

Not that I know of.

Timmy84 said:

Mr. Vandross died of a heart attack. He also was a diabetic and suffered from hypertention.

TD3 said:

Exactly. Anything even rumored to be AIDS was already debunked.

It is sad reading that site. A lot of those people were far too young when they died, and a lot were shot or died of preventable diseases. More tragic are all the men who died of AIDs. A lot though were not big big stars. But still this is typical of the Hollywood machine, when your 15 seconds of fame are up, you fall off the radar. I only saw one person who lived past 70 (Katherine Dunham). As a community, we have to wake up, drugs and diabetes along with gunshots are killing too many of us.

Timmy84 said:

put that boot in his ass, Tim! I tell ya...

Huggiebear said:

Ain't that the truth huggiebear... food for thought. We had a columnist in Chicago (Mr. Salim Muwakkil) do a report on the findings of Jonathan Tilove for The Star Ledger in Newark, N.J. about significant % black men "missing" most major metropolitan areas in the US 'bout time the hit close to middle age: Main culprits. Disease: AIDS, drug abuse, diabetes, hypertension, heart disease, obesity, and gun violence and the lack of health care.

Cinnie said:

To be fair, graecophilos isn't from the States or from Canada so, I'm not certain... he may not be aware that "you folks" or "you people" is an insult



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Cinnie said:

yeah, yoused is a word I made up because I was going mad over the word you and I find it funny that used and yoused sound alike.

Okay, you folks sounds ignorant, I didn't know that, that's due to me not being a English Native speaker. But you're advice is always welcome, Timmy84.

What I meant, I used the word you in the plural. I didn't mean it in general, I didn't mean a single person I meant several persons.

Timmy84 said:

Okay, I just was not sure, because there were rumours but I did not care much back then.

Anyway, I think Luther had the fanfare he deserved. If anything, he didn't have the success he would have deserved. He was like the best singer ever, yet in Germany to young people he is literally unknown.

graecophilos said:

Look, man, I know you're foreign and all but you have to watch how you say things especially to people in North America. When you say what you say, we all feel insulted. That's all I'm trying to say, you know?

Timmy84 said:

mmmh, well, who's foreign or not is a matter of view. There are 192 states in the world, so you're a foreigner to maximally 191 states!!

graecophilos said:

you're foreign aiight!

graecophilos said:

Duh. I was saying that too. Jeez Louise, man!

musicjunky318 said:

He was one good-looking young man.

I still can't believe Merlin Santana is gone. I remember that whole love triangle with Bud and Rudy on Bill Cosby. lol

As others have already pointed out, it is very sad that a lot of the talented black men listed died from HIV or AIDS related diseases. Rest in peace to them all. I hope they find a cure one day.

WatchThemFall said:

Yes he was

Mindbells9 said:

It was printed in 1984 or 85 either a Right On or BlackBeat magazine that he had died of leukemia