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Reply #690 posted 11/05/09 11:27pm

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to be honest this was a Michael Jackson tour not a Jackson 5/Jacksons tour so it doesnt exactly surprise me that the majority of the songs chosen were from his solo albums. Sure he could have put in a couple of songs from the Motown solo albums but this tour was aimed at the casual fan not just the hardcore and his early songs just arent played that much on the radio (except a few jackson ones) here in the UK.

So he played the songs the masses wanted to hear, after all its normally better to please the majority not the minority of the audience. There are always going to be fans out there that wouldnt be happy unless he played a whole setlist of obscure album songs/b-sides, but the majority would have walked away happy with what they got.

Also we dont know the whole setlist from 'This is it' we already know it is missing Dirty Diana, Stranger in Moscow, Heal the World, We're the World and You are not alone (also possible dont stop till you get enough and who is it). so how do you know there wasnt a plan for another meledy within the concert?
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Reply #691 posted 11/06/09 1:40am

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I do wish he had done Who Is It live. Every fan wanted that song performed live, it must've ended up being one of the top choices on that little online poll they did on michaeljacksonlive.com. MJ must've known what a fan favourite that song is.
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Reply #692 posted 11/06/09 7:00am

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MattyJam said:

I do wish he had done Who Is It live. Every fan wanted that song performed live, it must've ended up being one of the top choices on that little online poll they did on michaeljacksonlive.com. MJ must've known what a fan favourite that song is.


I agree. He knew. As sad as it is that Michael is gone, I'm so glad his concerts sold out, and he got to see that. I'm so glad he died knowing the people still embraced him, verses him having to think his fans had turned their backs on him.

As for "Who Is It" - it is the first MJ song I ever heard, the song that made me a fan, so you can guess how I felt about it. All I can say is, enjoy that clip of him singing it on Oprah and beat-boxing it. (I also have a remix, you might have, which features some ad libs not heard in the studio version of the song, with him singing, "She don't want it. She don't want it." music) If you want it, feel free to org-note me. I know it is a long way from hearing it live, but I feel your pain.
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Reply #693 posted 11/06/09 7:31am

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Vanilli said:[quote]

MattyJam said:

(I also have a remix, you might have, which features some ad libs not heard in the studio version of the song, with him singing, "She don't want it. She don't want it." music.


That is actually in the studio version, it's just drowned out. If anyone has the Dangerous DVD, you can take out one of the 5.1 audio channels and many of them sound like acapellas or stripped mixes. The Who Is It vocal channel has the "extra" ad-libs.

I took out all of the 5.1 audio acapella channels and uploaded them to an MJ site a while back.

On Gone Too Soon, you can hear MJ clear his throat before singing. Rock With You has some of the synth work... it's very cool to listen to.
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Reply #694 posted 11/06/09 7:41am

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Vanilli said:

MattyJam said:

I do wish he had done Who Is It live. Every fan wanted that song performed live, it must've ended up being one of the top choices on that little online poll they did on michaeljacksonlive.com. MJ must've known what a fan favourite that song is.


I agree. He knew. As sad as it is that Michael is gone, I'm so glad his concerts sold out, and he got to see that. I'm so glad he died knowing the people still embraced him, verses him having to think his fans had turned their backs on him.

As for "Who Is It" - it is the first MJ song I ever heard, the song that made me a fan, so you can guess how I felt about it. All I can say is, enjoy that clip of him singing it on Oprah and beat-boxing it. (I also have a remix, you might have, which features some ad libs not heard in the studio version of the song, with him singing, "She don't want it. She don't want it." music) If you want it, feel free to org-note me. I know it is a long way from hearing it live, but I feel your pain.


I just wish he had got to walk on stage opening night because the fans would have destroyed that O2 they had no idea what was coming. As was proved at the news conference when they said 'Michael fans were just like beyonce fans' all we said at the time was you have no idea whats coming do you, and the reponse we got was 'all fans say they are the best/craziest'. I got an apology afterwards lol

I can only imagine how much crazier it would have been for the real thing. Especially considering it was a seated event and people were already saying everyone was just gonna rush the stage when he came on (seriously whos smart idea to do seated Michael concerts? outside of Japan, you would think they would remember Mexico Dangerous tour where the fans apparently just ran over the seats)

I would have liked him to have walked on that stage and seen all those people going crazy and for him to know that he was still loved. Sure he knew the fans loved him, we had the arguement with him about who loved who the most numerous times but it would have been so nice to just let him have that moment. sad

but in all honestly i would swap all the concerts and future music etc for him to come back, i couldnt care less now if he had done nothing
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Reply #695 posted 11/06/09 7:44am

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Superstition said:[quote]

Vanilli said:

MattyJam said:

(I also have a remix, you might have, which features some ad libs not heard in the studio version of the song, with him singing, "She don't want it. She don't want it." music.


That is actually in the studio version, it's just drowned out. If anyone has the Dangerous DVD, you can take out one of the 5.1 audio channels and many of them sound like acapellas or stripped mixes. The Who Is It vocal channel has the "extra" ad-libs.

I took out all of the 5.1 audio acapella channels and uploaded them to an MJ site a while back.

On Gone Too Soon, you can hear MJ clear his throat before singing. Rock With You has some of the synth work... it's very cool to listen to.
[Edited 11/6/09 7:32am]


So wait, just put in my DVD, adjust the audio preferences and I'm grooving to acapellas, more or less eek
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Reply #696 posted 11/06/09 8:00am

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b3xy said:

but in all honestly i would swap all the concerts and future music etc for him to come back, i couldnt care less now if he had done nothing


This last part of your post gave me chills,
because it is exactly how I feel.

Truer words have never been spoken.
I feel your pain. bheart
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Reply #697 posted 11/06/09 8:32am

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Superstition said:

I don't see what the choreography has to do with being gay or straight. People, as usual, are reaching here.

The band, the background singers and dancers to me all looked like a typical selection of people any famous act, gay or straight, may have.


Amen... stereotypical types here.
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Reply #698 posted 11/06/09 8:43am

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Vanilli said:

Superstition said:



That is actually in the studio version, it's just drowned out. If anyone has the Dangerous DVD, you can take out one of the 5.1 audio channels and many of them sound like acapellas or stripped mixes. The Who Is It vocal channel has the "extra" ad-libs.

I took out all of the 5.1 audio acapella channels and uploaded them to an MJ site a while back.

On Gone Too Soon, you can hear MJ clear his throat before singing. Rock With You has some of the synth work... it's very cool to listen to.
[Edited 11/6/09 7:32am]


So wait, just put in my DVD, adjust the audio preferences and I'm grooving to acapellas, more or less eek


Pretty much. This is an example of the "center" channel of Gone Too Soon...

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Reply #699 posted 11/06/09 7:10pm

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Don't know if it was mentioned, but, not surprisingly, the showing's been extended through Thanksgiving.
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Reply #700 posted 11/06/09 7:23pm

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My birthday is November 30th.
I'm hoping I can see it on my birthday for like the 5th time! biggrin
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Reply #701 posted 11/06/09 9:00pm

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Vanilli said:

My birthday is November 30th.
I'm hoping I can see it on my birthday for like the 5th time! biggrin

Dude, how many of my friends' birthdays are in November! lol

Mine is tomorrow...and I expect somebody to make me a thread in GD, dammit! mad lol
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Reply #702 posted 11/06/09 9:18pm

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Superstition said:[quote]

Vanilli said:

MattyJam said:

(I also have a remix, you might have, which features some ad libs not heard in the studio version of the song, with him singing, "She don't want it. She don't want it." music.


That is actually in the studio version, it's just drowned out. If anyone has the Dangerous DVD, you can take out one of the 5.1 audio channels and many of them sound like acapellas or stripped mixes. The Who Is It vocal channel has the "extra" ad-libs.

I took out all of the 5.1 audio acapella channels and uploaded them to an MJ site a while back.

On Gone Too Soon, you can hear MJ clear his throat before singing. Rock With You has some of the synth work... it's very cool to listen to.
[Edited 11/6/09 7:32am]


omg i wanna hear all of this love
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Reply #703 posted 11/06/09 10:26pm

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"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #704 posted 11/06/09 11:29pm

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MyMyMy said:



In all honesty, for the casual fan, that would be akin to him saying, "Now here are some songs from my upcoming album." That's not what they are going to the concert for. They want to sing along to every single song. So, it has to be the big hits.

If it's some $10 concert, then maybe he could sing all the lesser known songs.
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If that were the case he shouldn't have sang "Heartbreak Hotel" during the Bad tour, afterall compare with BEAT IT, that wasn't a big hit. Stop being so narrow minded. Probably a 19 year old, casual fan wouldn't know anything pre-Thriller or pre-Bad, but I can ensure you many older, casual fans i.e in their late 30s/40s knew MJ existed way before Thriller and they probably know more about his music in general than the 25 year old "hard-core" fan, whose fandom always seem to start with Dangerous.
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Well i'm 32 and believe it or not there's some early 30 somethings that know a thing or two it's being born not at the middle of the 70's but not at the very begining of the 80's that connects you with the older and your supposed generation of music...or hell you could just actually have good tatse in music. lol i've noticed alot of early 20 somethings to mid 20 yr. old being 'hardcore fans' and yes Dangerous is the album they love. mind you I'm not saying all people in the 20 something age range is like that just seen that group on fan boards.
on another note I was downtown today sitting outside snacking and listening to Off The wall the song and this lil boy mustve been maybe 13 gave me the most purest smile ever!
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Reply #705 posted 11/07/09 3:14am

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Saw it for the second time. Loved it even more. I love you so much, Mike.
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Reply #706 posted 11/07/09 4:29am

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AUSSIE ORGERS - TII has been extended for TWO MORE WEEKS excited
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Reply #707 posted 11/07/09 5:52am

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Michael Jackson’s recent triumph at the movies spills over to the US album charts with the “This Is It” CD topping the Billboard album chart this week.

The companion soundtrack to the worldwide number one movie is Jackson’s sixth number one album on the Billboard 200.

The gloved one's previous number one albums were “Thriller,” “Bad,” “Dangerous,” “HIStory,” and “Invincible.”

Jackson continues to be a money maker even after death, with past efforts like “Number Ones” and the aforementioned “Thriller” recently hitting the charts anew following his death last June 25. His greatest hit set “Number Ones” is the best-selling album of 2009.

Though the new Jackson album has only one new song and tracks that were already included in previous releases, “This Is It” still managed to move 373,000 copies for the week ending Nov. 1.

“This Is It,” a demo recording which dates back 1991, is a song Jackson co-wrote with Neil Sedaka and is heard in the closing credits of Jackson’s movie about the preparations and rehearsals for his planned residency at the O2 Arena in London.

The track-listing in the CD follows the order of how the songs appeared in the movie.

“This Is It” (the movie) earned $104 million during its first weekend of worldwide release.

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Reply #708 posted 11/07/09 2:19pm

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Such good news, thanks for posting. Long live the King!
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Reply #709 posted 11/07/09 4:28pm

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dreamfactory313 said:

Michael Jackson’s recent triumph at the movies spills over to the US album charts with the “This Is It” CD topping the Billboard album chart this week.

The companion soundtrack to the worldwide number one movie is Jackson’s sixth number one album on the Billboard 200.

The gloved one's previous number one albums were “Thriller,” “Bad,” “Dangerous,” “HIStory,” and “Invincible.”

Jackson continues to be a money maker even after death, with past efforts like “Number Ones” and the aforementioned “Thriller” recently hitting the charts anew following his death last June 25. His greatest hit set “Number Ones” is the best-selling album of 2009.

Though the new Jackson album has only one new song and tracks that were already included in previous releases, “This Is It” still managed to move 373,000 copies for the week ending Nov. 1.

“This Is It,” a demo recording which dates back 1991, is a song Jackson co-wrote with Neil Sedaka (PAUL ANKA) and is heard in the closing credits of Jackson’s movie about the preparations and rehearsals for his planned residency at the O2 Arena in London.

The track-listing in the CD follows the order of how the songs appeared in the movie.

“This Is It” (the movie) earned $104 million during its first weekend of worldwide release.

http://www.mb.com.ph/arti...-continues
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Reply #710 posted 11/07/09 4:54pm

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I started to read a few comments, but decided not to. My experience with this movie was foot swinging, wanted to get out of my chair feeling and dance... many times. I enjoyed the heads swaying to the music, all the way down the rows. I always sit in the upper last seats. My 17 year old nephew (who plays guitar) said it was awesome, and he is a hard film critic. lol thumbs up! for sure.

I would go see it again and I will definitely buy the DVD, times 10. smile
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Reply #711 posted 11/07/09 5:29pm

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One thing that has been surprising to me is the turn out in terms of demographics. In one session I went to there were people in their 70s, families, couples in their 20s, teens and even one cute 5 year old girl dancing in front of her seat.

It took me back to the BAD tour and HiStory (the only tours that reached Australia) and it was the same thing - people of all ages connected with the music.

With the movie though I think it bringing out more than just hardcore fans (sure they took up the first few opening nights) but it is a movie with a wider appeal.

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Swa said:

One thing that has been surprising to me is the turn out in terms of demographics. In one session I went to there were people in their 70s, families, couples in their 20s, teens and even one cute 5 year old girl dancing in front of her seat.

It took me back to the BAD tour and HiStory (the only tours that reached Australia) and it was the same thing - people of all ages connected with the music.

With the movie though I think it bringing out more than just hardcore fans (sure they took up the first few opening nights) but it is a movie with a wider appeal.

Swa


There was a woman with an OXYGEN TANK at the showing I went to



an OXYGEN TANK eek
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Reply #713 posted 11/07/09 5:52pm

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bboy87 said:

Swa said:

One thing that has been surprising to me is the turn out in terms of demographics. In one session I went to there were people in their 70s, families, couples in their 20s, teens and even one cute 5 year old girl dancing in front of her seat.

It took me back to the BAD tour and HiStory (the only tours that reached Australia) and it was the same thing - people of all ages connected with the music.

With the movie though I think it bringing out more than just hardcore fans (sure they took up the first few opening nights) but it is a movie with a wider appeal.

Swa


There was a woman with an OXYGEN TANK at the showing I went to



an OXYGEN TANK eek


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i agree i was so suprised to see such a range and diversity of people. i saw babies and elderly people and i saw every race too, IT'S GREAT biggrin just what michael would want
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Reply #714 posted 11/07/09 6:38pm

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Same with my viewings, the first one I went to people were mostly young probably no one over 35. Next one was all ages.
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Swa said:

One thing that has been surprising to me is the turn out in terms of demographics. In one session I went to there were people in their 70s, families, couples in their 20s, teens and even one cute 5 year old girl dancing in front of her seat.

It took me back to the BAD tour and HiStory (the only tours that reached Australia) and it was the same thing - people of all ages connected with the music.

With the movie though I think it bringing out more than just hardcore fans (sure they took up the first few opening nights) but it is a movie with a wider appeal.

Swa


That was the universal appeal of MJ, since THRILLER - he never looked back, no one since, has ever come close, at appealing to so many people, different ages, races, cultures, he was the ultimate.
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Reply #716 posted 11/07/09 9:52pm

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I've seen This Is It 4 times. the opening show oct 30th Nov. 6th and Saturday Nov. 7th.
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Reply #717 posted 11/07/09 10:06pm

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tangerine7 said:

whatsgoingon said:



If that were the case he shouldn't have sang "Heartbreak Hotel" during the Bad tour, afterall compare with BEAT IT, that wasn't a big hit. Stop being so narrow minded. Probably a 19 year old, casual fan wouldn't know anything pre-Thriller or pre-Bad, but I can ensure you many older, casual fans i.e in their late 30s/40s knew MJ existed way before Thriller and they probably know more about his music in general than the 25 year old "hard-core" fan, whose fandom always seem to start with Dangerous.
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Well i'm 32 and believe it or not there's some early 30 somethings that know a thing or two it's being born not at the middle of the 70's but not at the very begining of the 80's that connects you with the older and your supposed generation of music...or hell you could just actually have good tatse in music. lol i've noticed alot of early 20 somethings to mid 20 yr. old being 'hardcore fans' and yes Dangerous is the album they love. mind you I'm not saying all people in the 20 something age range is like that just seen that group on fan boards. on another note I was downtown today sitting outside snacking and listening to Off The wall the song and this lil boy mustve been maybe 13 gave me the most purest smile ever!
biggrin
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I'mm 22 and dangerous is not the album that I love lol
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Reply #718 posted 11/07/09 10:23pm

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babybugz said:

tangerine7 said:




Well i'm 32 and believe it or not there's some early 30 somethings that know a thing or two it's being born not at the middle of the 70's but not at the very begining of the 80's that connects you with the older and your supposed generation of music...or hell you could just actually have good tatse in music. lol i've noticed alot of early 20 somethings to mid 20 yr. old being 'hardcore fans' and yes Dangerous is the album they love. mind you I'm not saying all people in the 20 something age range is like that just seen that group on fan boards. on another note I was downtown today sitting outside snacking and listening to Off The wall the song and this lil boy mustve been maybe 13 gave me the most purest smile ever!
biggrin
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I'mm 22 and dangerous is not the album that I love lol


yea i know tha about you because i've been followi the MJ threads I never meant Everyone that age (20's) just have noticed alot of that age group on MJ fan sites. I alaways thought How come 'they' don't 'get' even Thriller and OTW and below those albums you know.. all the great demos..
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babybugz said:


I'mm 22 and dangerous is not the album that I love lol


yea i know tha about you because i've been followi the MJ threads I never meant Everyone that age (20's) just have noticed alot of that age group on MJ fan sites. I alaways thought How come 'they' don't 'get' even Thriller and OTW and below those albums you know.. all the great demos..

Yeah I get you smile
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