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Reply #360 posted 10/31/09 6:32am

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EmeraldSkies said:

motownlover said:

i went to see it , and i think im going to see it again next week.

bboys description was on point, i just loved the candid view the film gave us.
even though he was not giving his all, he still sounded great.
i just cant stop loving you , i mean damn.

note : did anyone else noticed michaels nasaly sound during talking with kenny about the inner ear?

and the quality difference of the footage. some of it was HD , other seemed like amateur material.

other than that i enjoyed it. and the new video clips where awesome.
imagine the kind of video clips mike would have recorded for future releases , or what if this kind of technology was available in the 80s . thriller was awesome. edit i liked the threatend outro with the bass and all eek

I think he figured since they were just rehearsals,he wasn't going to wear himself out,he would save that for the actual shows. He even made reference about not wanting to sing out,cause he needed to save his voice. I think he wasn't "giving his all" on purpose. nod

I haven't seen it yet, but that's what I would expect. As rehearsals go, I think he would have been more focused on hitting his marks than on sticking his moves. You know he would have laid some extra fierce attitude on top for the actual show (once everyone was comfortable with what they were doing).
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Reply #361 posted 10/31/09 7:33am

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I experienced 'This Is It' last night with family and a funky audience on IMAX. Now that I've seen it I can say that it showcases an artist in full command of his craft and taking an hands-on approach to even the most minute detail of the massive production. And though one can't help but lament what might have been, the rehearsal footage bears witness to Jackson's creative genius and the indelible mark he's made on history.

As for the DVD, bring it on!
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Reply #362 posted 10/31/09 9:44am

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Just saw it last night. What an experience that movie was. It wasn't a packed house, but it was still a good amount of people there. I was glad to see a lot of other parents had the same idea as me...bring the kids. I was moved at how when the credits started to roll signaling the end of the film, almost everyone seemed paralyzed to get up and leave. Everyone sat there with tears in their eyes, others with serious faces full of deep thought. Just a feeling of wow, we lost such a great talent, a great person. And how amazing it was that he did his thang til the very end, doing what he loves. That's a beautiful thing. nod
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Reply #363 posted 10/31/09 9:58am

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dag said:

See journalists have the greatest talent for making luxuriant long articles and saying nothing.


You nailed it. I read a torrid article the other day, warning, may make you explode with anger like I did:

http://www.guardian.co.uk...son-london

Srsly, this chick needs to hook up with Diane Dimond and go play in traffic.

I read another one which was simply the asshole journalist marvelling about the fact that Michael had dedicated fans and then documenting how they somehow managed to fall asleep during the film. johnwoo

Thanks for the warning. I think I can live without reading that. I´ve read anough BS recently. Don´t need to read more. lol
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #364 posted 10/31/09 12:39pm

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I saw it early today and was overwhelmed. I cried on 3-4 separate occasions. Just really well done and so good to see him doing his thing. Was taken aback at how much I loved the Billie Jean part toward the end. I felt like an addict... just wanting more and more of him but then MJ always made me feel that way.

And I left the theater, I loved seeing the line up of folks waiting to get in... all different ages and races... all waiting to get in and see this movie. I can't wait to see it again.
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Reply #365 posted 10/31/09 12:55pm

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I saw it early today and was overwhelmed. I cried on 3-4 separate occasions. Just really well done and so good to see him doing his thing. Was taken aback at how much I loved the Billie Jean part toward the end. I felt like an addict... just wanting more and more of him but then MJ always made me feel that way.

And I left the theater, I loved seeing the line up of folks waiting to get in... all different ages and races... all waiting to get in and see this movie. I can't wait to see it again.

Glad you loved it as much as we all did. biggrin
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #366 posted 10/31/09 1:04pm

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dag said:

JackieBlue said:

I saw it early today and was overwhelmed. I cried on 3-4 separate occasions. Just really well done and so good to see him doing his thing. Was taken aback at how much I loved the Billie Jean part toward the end. I felt like an addict... just wanting more and more of him but then MJ always made me feel that way.

And I left the theater, I loved seeing the line up of folks waiting to get in... all different ages and races... all waiting to get in and see this movie. I can't wait to see it again.

Glad you loved it as much as we all did. biggrin


For sure! hug
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Reply #367 posted 10/31/09 1:06pm

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You can pre-order the DVD at michaeljackson.com and get a free poster.
I'm waiting to buy it in stores to see if the content is really that different.
Something tells me the blue-ray will offer just as much content as the DVD.
Too many people would bitch if the DVD was the lacking. (Or at-least I'd hope so.)
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Reply #368 posted 10/31/09 1:07pm

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Reply #369 posted 10/31/09 1:28pm

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JackieBlue said:

dag said:


Glad you loved it as much as we all did. biggrin


For sure! hug
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hug

BTW guys, you can find almost whole TII on youtube. Not in the best quality though, it´s usually people recording thing on their cellphones in the theatres probably. lol But, better than nothing before the DVD comes. biggrin
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Reply #370 posted 10/31/09 1:29pm

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MTV Review: 'Jackson Is A Stubborn Visionary'
October 2009
"Michael Jackson's This Is It" premiered simultaneously in 17 cities around the world, and MTV News writer Eric Ditzian was on hand at the New York premiere to get a first look at the film.

From over 100 hours of footage, director Kenny Ortega brought together a 105-minute feature that traced all of the steps on the road to Jackson's planned "This Is It" shows, from initial conception to auditions to rehearsals. You can read Ditzian's entire recap of "Michael Jackson's This Is It" here, but one thing that especially stands out is this passage: "The picture that emerges of Michael Jackson is of a stubborn visionary who never loses his sense of humor. He's a perfectionist who knows what he wants and is loath to compromise. He also seems reluctant to admit when he's in the wrong, as with a humorous incident when he seems to forget the lyrics to a Jackson 5 song and instead blames a faulty earpiece."

If there's one thing that collaborators and friends always said about Michael Jackson, it's that he had an unbelievable work ethic and was a staunch perfectionist. The film seems to focus on establishing that as his legacy, and that like many geniuses he was sometimes undone by his demand for constant excellence. And yet despite his workhorse tendencies, he was clearly a joy to work with, as the film offers a look at his infectious energy. As Ditzian puts it, the film creates "a glowing portrait," leaving out any of the unpleasantness that has followed Jackson's death.

But it seems less like a trick of editing and more like a tribute to the thing that clearly dominated the end of the King of Pop's life: The need to deliver one final, stunning performance that would be a lasting memory. "Michael Jackson's This Is It" is not what he intended, but it seems like it comes awfully close.
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Reply #371 posted 10/31/09 3:28pm

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Just got back from watching the movie, It made me miss Michael. The movie was awesome, and he wasn't walking around high or out of it! That would have been one hell of a concert if he had lived! Michael was sooo humble and nice to all of the people he worked with. nod
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Reply #372 posted 10/31/09 7:47pm

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The Movie Was DOPE eek
The sisters and i stayed til the screen went completly black
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Reply #373 posted 10/31/09 7:48pm

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I wonder if they'll release another film, considering they had 100 hrs of footage.

"This Is It Again"?

I hope they release a couple of dvd's worth. Make it a series or something, volume 1, 2 ,3 etc
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Reply #374 posted 10/31/09 8:14pm

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Arnotts said:

purplesweat said:

I wonder if they'll release another film, considering they had 100 hrs of footage.

"This Is It Again"?

I hope they release a couple of dvd's worth. Make it a series or something, volume 1, 2 ,3 etc


Eh...I think they should give us about 2-3 hours of bonus features and leave it at that...
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Reply #375 posted 10/31/09 8:34pm

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I have a feeling all of the 100 hours of footage isn't Michael performing.
You gotta consider most of it is probably Michael watching the show evolve,
or getting phone calls about it. It isn't like they did run throughs every
day April-June. Just chop together all the songs rehearsed, even the songs
that didn't make the film-cut, find a few hours worth of behind the scenes
goodies, any other interesting stuff about the vignettes and costumes, give
us a decent live companion album, and close the chapter on "This Is It"
and start digging through MJ's vault already. biggrin
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Reply #376 posted 10/31/09 8:43pm

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mynameisnotsusan said:

bellanoche said:

One question - Was anyone surprised that "Rock With You" wasn't part of the set list or at least not featured in the film? Do you think it might be an extra on the DVD? It seemed like they stuck to the mainstream pop hits and excluded the R&B hits. That was my observation.


Just from reading articles and interviews since his death, I don't think MJ was that fond of Off The Wall. It wasn't his sole vision, the grammys snubbed him.

I know I would have much MUCH rather seen full performances of some Off The Wall songs rather than Thriller or Beat It again which did very much have the 'he's done this many times before' feel about it.


I would have to disagree. It's not that he was not fond of "Off The Wall", because I think he was. He just became obsessed with "Thriller".
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Reply #377 posted 10/31/09 8:48pm

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ViintageJunkiie said:

Arnotts said:


I hope they release a couple of dvd's worth. Make it a series or something, volume 1, 2 ,3 etc


Eh...I think they should give us about 2-3 hours of bonus features and leave it at that...

Yeah maybe not volumes and different releases, but maybe one of those boxset type things where theres two or three cds in the one packaging. I just really want lots of behind the scenes footage like with 'The Making Of Thriller', although I wanted to see more footage from that too.
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Reply #378 posted 10/31/09 8:53pm

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Arnotts said:

ViintageJunkiie said:



Eh...I think they should give us about 2-3 hours of bonus features and leave it at that...

Yeah maybe not volumes and different releases, but maybe one of those boxset type things where theres two or three cds in the one packaging. I just really want lots of behind the scenes footage like with 'The Making Of Thriller', although I wanted to see more footage from that too.


I say 3 CD's. One CD full of "the hits", second cd behind the scenes footage (them creating the stage, vignettes, set lists etc) & the 3rd cd will be the full rehearsal. I think we ALL wanted to see more from the Thriller video. I really wanted to see the part when he confronts Ola about him being "not like the other guys" and more of the transformation to the "cat-like monster"
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Reply #379 posted 10/31/09 8:58pm

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Just from reading articles and interviews since his death, I don't think MJ was that fond of Off The Wall. It wasn't his sole vision, the grammys snubbed him.

I know I would have much MUCH rather seen full performances of some Off The Wall songs rather than Thriller or Beat It again which did very much have the 'he's done this many times before' feel about it.


I would have to disagree. It's not that he was not fond of "Off The Wall", because I think he was. He just became obsessed with "Thriller".

I think Michael has always had a warped sense of what his fans want. His Jackson 5 upbringing made him think he had to do the same thing over and over again, or what was most popular over and over again. I have images of him doing a really dark tour made up from the Blood on The Dance Floor album and all his other darks songs from other albums. Its absolutely fantastic in my mind but he would NEVER have done that as for some reason he didnt think its what we wanted.

It would have suited very well with the image he was beginning to create with his new fashion style and the amazing effects in the show, but instead he chose to do the same songs as usual. I got SOOO excited when Threatened started after Thriller, but it didnt go in the cool direction it could have. That could have been so amazing if he performed that song, and a new routine and everything. Its the exact vibe I was imagining.
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Reply #380 posted 10/31/09 9:01pm

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shorttrini said:



I would have to disagree. It's not that he was not fond of "Off The Wall", because I think he was. He just became obsessed with "Thriller".

I think Michael has always had a warped sense of what his fans want. His Jackson 5 upbringing made him think he had to do the same thing over and over again, or what was most popular over and over again. I have images of him doing a really dark tour made up from the Blood on The Dance Floor album and all his other darks songs from other albums. Its absolutely fantastic in my mind but he would NEVER have done that as for some reason he didnt think its what we wanted.

It would have suited very well with the image he was beginning to create with his new fashion style and the amazing effects in the show, but instead he chose to do the same songs as usual. I got SOOO excited when Threatened started after Thriller, but it didnt go in the cool direction it could have. That could have been so amazing if he performed that song, and a new routine and everything. Its the exact vibe I was imagining.


I think he should have performed "Ghosts" "Is It Scary", then closed the grave-yard set with "Thriller"
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Reply #381 posted 10/31/09 9:07pm

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ViintageJunkiie said:

Arnotts said:


I think Michael has always had a warped sense of what his fans want. His Jackson 5 upbringing made him think he had to do the same thing over and over again, or what was most popular over and over again. I have images of him doing a really dark tour made up from the Blood on The Dance Floor album and all his other darks songs from other albums. Its absolutely fantastic in my mind but he would NEVER have done that as for some reason he didnt think its what we wanted.

It would have suited very well with the image he was beginning to create with his new fashion style and the amazing effects in the show, but instead he chose to do the same songs as usual. I got SOOO excited when Threatened started after Thriller, but it didnt go in the cool direction it could have. That could have been so amazing if he performed that song, and a new routine and everything. Its the exact vibe I was imagining.


I think he should have performed "Ghosts" "Is It Scary", then closed the grave-yard set with "Thriller"


Reading you guys debate this makes me sad, simply because these were probably the discussions fans would have had after coming back from London, enjoying the shows, and pondering them with the blurry clips on YouTube.

On a more positive note, I have 3 words to say about "This Is It" the movie:
FAVORITE MOVIE EVER. nod
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Reply #382 posted 10/31/09 9:10pm

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Vanilli said:

ViintageJunkiie said:



I think he should have performed "Ghosts" "Is It Scary", then closed the grave-yard set with "Thriller"


Reading you guys debate this makes me sad, simply because these were probably the discussions fans would have had after coming back from London, enjoying the shows, and pondering them with the blurry clips on YouTube.

On a more positive note, I have 3 words to say about "This Is It" the movie:
FAVORITE MOVIE EVER. nod


neutral can you imagine how many people would have been recording clips from his shows?! it just sucks we won't even be able to see it ..
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Reply #383 posted 10/31/09 9:19pm

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Arnotts said:


I think Michael has always had a warped sense of what his fans want. His Jackson 5 upbringing made him think he had to do the same thing over and over again, or what was most popular over and over again. I have images of him doing a really dark tour made up from the Blood on The Dance Floor album and all his other darks songs from other albums. Its absolutely fantastic in my mind but he would NEVER have done that as for some reason he didnt think its what we wanted.

It would have suited very well with the image he was beginning to create with his new fashion style and the amazing effects in the show, but instead he chose to do the same songs as usual. I got SOOO excited when Threatened started after Thriller, but it didnt go in the cool direction it could have. That could have been so amazing if he performed that song, and a new routine and everything. Its the exact vibe I was imagining.


I think he should have performed "Ghosts" "Is It Scary", then closed the grave-yard set with "Thriller"

Yeah thats sounds cool too, Threatened as well? I think Threatened sounded great live so I'd have that in there too. Damn Vanilli your right, it makes me sad too. Theres just so much more he could of given.
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Reply #384 posted 10/31/09 9:45pm

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Arnotts said:

ViintageJunkiie said:



Eh...I think they should give us about 2-3 hours of bonus features and leave it at that...

Yeah maybe not volumes and different releases, but maybe one of those boxset type things where theres two or three cds in the one packaging. I just really want lots of behind the scenes footage like with 'The Making Of Thriller', although I wanted to see more footage from that too.

You just gave me another idea for a fantasy tracklisting falloff
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Reply #385 posted 10/31/09 9:48pm

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MTV Review: 'Jackson Is A Stubborn Visionary'
October 2009
He also seems reluctant to admit when he's in the wrong, as with a humorous incident when he seems to forget the lyrics to a Jackson 5 song and instead blames a faulty earpiece."
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hmm

Pretty sure MJ didn't forget the words to I Want You Back. It looked like he was agitated during the performance, and was probably letting the other people practice. How could he forget the words to that song, of all tracks?
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Reply #386 posted 10/31/09 9:56pm

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MTV Review: 'Jackson Is A Stubborn Visionary'
October 2009
He also seems reluctant to admit when he's in the wrong, as with a humorous incident when he seems to forget the lyrics to a Jackson 5 song and instead blames a faulty earpiece."
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hmm

Pretty sure MJ didn't forget the words to I Want You Back. It looked like he was agitated during the performance, and was probably letting the other people practice. How could he forget the words to that song, of all tracks?

It shows how people see things differently. I thought it looked like the ear piece was annoying him and he was trying to show his fustration so people would stop and fix it
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Reply #387 posted 10/31/09 9:59pm

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Arnotts said:


Yeah maybe not volumes and different releases, but maybe one of those boxset type things where theres two or three cds in the one packaging. I just really want lots of behind the scenes footage like with 'The Making Of Thriller', although I wanted to see more footage from that too.

You just gave me another idea for a fantasy tracklisting falloff

Whats that?
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Reply #388 posted 10/31/09 10:00pm

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bboy87 - any idea what those tracks that were just registered bmi would be used for now? The companion CD already came out. Is there another companion CD for when the DVD drops in January being planned? fro
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Reply #389 posted 10/31/09 10:09pm

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Arnotts said:

bboy87 said:


You just gave me another idea for a fantasy tracklisting falloff

Whats that?

tracklistings for concepts I have sometimes. Like my ideal tracklistings for boxsets and stuff lol
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