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missfee said: daPrettyman said: You know, a friend of mine and I have debates constantly about NE and its offsprings. He seems to think NE has a chance for a comeback and are still great "artists". I tell him that they are a manufactured group (even their offsprings) and they will never be big ever again. I was happy to see them reunite for the BET tribute, but they did sound horrible. We know about Bobby's drug past, but we don't know about the other guys. I wouldn't be surprised if Ralph was/used drugs and messed his voice up like Bobby did. Child who knows what Ralph was doing. Speaking of which, didn't Ralph and Ricky get married to their wives in the same ceremony? I could have sworn I read something about that a while back but it's not crystal clear. Anyway, back on topic, I wouldn be surprised if Ralph was dipping in and out of drugs himself. All I know is that they should have had Ricky, whom they probably deemed (just one of the back up guys) to sing lead on the songs...of course, I know egos wouldn't have let that happen. And Ralph used to be so good looking too. Lawd have mercy he used to be so sexy, now he just looks so...old. 
[Edited 10/26/09 10:54am] Yes, Ralph and Ricky did get married to their wives in the same ceremony. I thought I was the only one who thought Ralph doesn't look too good nowadays. But that's what happens when you live that fast lifestyle sometimes because it's been rumored for years that Ralph had a drug problem. And, if my memory serves me correctly I believe a female came out with a book stating while her and Ralph were dating that he would borrow money from her for drugs. | |
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Did they talk at all about their single "Gangsta" and how that 1992/1993 project got switched around? | |
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It was good, a bit unfocused but really good
New Edition and it's offsprings have been in the game for a long time now with over 24 albums altogether They could make a good comeback if they kept the egos in check, went to business, and keep Bobby sedated "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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daPrettyman said: ViintageJunkiie said: Nope! I didn't catch it. I'll have to catch it another time. ABC! BBD! lol It's on now (about to go off, though). It's good, and they are being pretty honest about what's going on with NE. They are failing to discuss BBD's 3rd album and what went wrong with the project. Havn't seen the show but that 3rd album was piss poor LOL. They trying to be all hard when they came from a boyband LOL. I still listen to "in my crib" and my personal fav, "da hot shit" sometimes though. "Da hot shit" | |
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funkpill said: I'm glad they stated that the 2nd album suks
Because it did..  This track wern't bad..... I also still dig "something in your eyes" and "show me the way". | |
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thesexofit said: daPrettyman said: It's on now (about to go off, though). It's good, and they are being pretty honest about what's going on with NE. They are failing to discuss BBD's 3rd album and what went wrong with the project. Havn't seen the show but that 3rd album was piss poor LOL. They trying to be all hard when they came from a boyband LOL. I still listen to "in my crib" and my personal fav, "da hot shit" sometimes though. "Da hot shit" Was this one on Bad Boy, or just that later New Edition album? | |
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thesexofit said: daPrettyman said: It's on now (about to go off, though). It's good, and they are being pretty honest about what's going on with NE. They are failing to discuss BBD's 3rd album and what went wrong with the project. Havn't seen the show but that 3rd album was piss poor LOL. They trying to be all hard when they came from a boyband LOL. I still listen to "in my crib" and my personal fav, "da hot shit" sometimes though. "Da hot shit" Hahahahahaha! I remember the video to that song. The girl singing it is the lead singer (Shamari) from the group Blaque (Left-Eye's protege group) and also Ronnies wife | |
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Cinnie said: thesexofit said: Havn't seen the show but that 3rd album was piss poor LOL. They trying to be all hard when they came from a boyband LOL. I still listen to "in my crib" and my personal fav, "da hot shit" sometimes though. "Da hot shit" Was this one on Bad Boy, or just that later New Edition album? It was on Bivens own BivTen label through Universal in 2001. Maybe they owed MCA/Universal one more album after their first 2? | |
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ViintageJunkiie said: thesexofit said: Havn't seen the show but that 3rd album was piss poor LOL. They trying to be all hard when they came from a boyband LOL. I still listen to "in my crib" and my personal fav, "da hot shit" sometimes though. "Da hot shit" Hahahahahaha! I remember the video to that song. The girl singing it is the lead singer (Shamari) from the group Blaque (Left-Eye's protege group) and also Ronnies wife oh well i didn't know that. I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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thesexofit said: funkpill said: I'm glad they stated that the 2nd album suks
Because it did.. This track wern't bad..... I also still dig "something in your eyes" and "show me the way". So was "Above The Rim" on their second cd? I thought that was a pretty good song. I didn' know that they had more than one cd though. I did think that they had more hit songs than "Poison" and "Do Me Baby" which were the main songs that they focused on. I remember "Dope", "When Will I See You Smile" and a few others that they didn't mention. Didn't know that Ralph was acting out, that was a surprise to me. I thought that he was so sweet like his image. I always thought that Ricky could sing. I love his background vocals on "A Little Bit Of Love" but I was really shocked to see him pull off that solo without Ralph. It was really good. | |
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Cinnie said: Did they talk at all about their single "Gangsta" and how that 1992/1993 project got switched around?
Nope. All they said about "Hootie Mack" was that they didn't know what happened. They later explained that it wasn't a radio hit on there and people weren't ready for it. They also kind of blamed Dre's "The Chronic" for blowing their project out of the water. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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godyssey said: thesexofit said: This track wern't bad..... I also still dig "something in your eyes" and "show me the way". So was "Above The Rim" on their second cd? I thought that was a pretty good song. I didn' know that they had more than one cd though. I did think that they had more hit songs than "Poison" and "Do Me Baby" which were the main songs that they focused on. I remember "Dope", "When Will I See You Smile" and a few others that they didn't mention. Didn't know that Ralph was acting out, that was a surprise to me. I thought that he was so sweet like his image. I always thought that Ricky could sing. I love his background vocals on "A Little Bit Of Love" but I was really shocked to see him pull off that solo without Ralph. It was really good. Yes, "Above The Rim" was the official first single from the album. Especially after "Gangsta" couldn't get cleared to be on the project. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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missfee said: Child who knows what Ralph was doing. Speaking of which, didn't Ralph and Ricky get married to their wives in the same ceremony? I could have sworn I read something about that a while back but it's not crystal clear. Anyway, back on topic, I wouldn be surprised if Ralph was dipping in and out of drugs himself. All I know is that they should have had Ricky, whom they probably deemed (just one of the back up guys) to sing lead on the songs...of course, I know egos wouldn't have let that happen.
And Ralph used to be so good looking too. Lawd have mercy he used to be so sexy, now he just looks so...old. Yes he was, I was wondering if anyone else though Ralph was fine & sexy. 
For the most part black don't crack but if you mess with "crack" it will, that's why Ralph looks so whipped. Yeah, I saw the show and I would have liked to have heard where all the millions they made for the recorded company. As always, the classic case of forming these "Boy & Girl bands and record companies and/or managers ripping them off. At that, the money they pulled from concerts/merchandise (in theory) should have been theirs free and clear. Irrespective of there mistakes and foibles Ricky, Michael and Ronnie appear to be nice guys... good chaps. | |
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godyssey said: thesexofit said: This track wern't bad..... I also still dig "something in your eyes" and "show me the way". So was "Above The Rim" on their second cd? I thought that was a pretty good song. I didn' know that they had more than one cd though. I did think that they had more hit songs than "Poison" and "Do Me Baby" which were the main songs that they focused on. I remember "Dope", "When Will I See You Smile" and a few others that they didn't mention. Didn't know that Ralph was acting out, that was a surprise to me. I thought that he was so sweet like his image. I always thought that Ricky could sing. I love his background vocals on "A Little Bit Of Love" but I was really shocked to see him pull off that solo without Ralph. It was really good.  I did too. Shame they didn't give him a chance to showcase his vocals during the NE days until the "Home Again" album. Then of course, you could really hear how strong his voice is while with BBD. Like I said before, he was the only one who could hold a note on the BET awards MJ tribute. I always felt that Ricky could sing way better than Ralph...though Ralph had the better looks....keyword is HAD.I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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I love that bass rendition of "When Will I See You Smile Again" that Ricky Bell sang solo for So So Def. | |
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Cinnie said: I love that bass rendition of "When Will I See You Smile Again" that Ricky Bell sang solo for So So Def.
When was this???? I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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missfee said: Cinnie said: I love that bass rendition of "When Will I See You Smile Again" that Ricky Bell sang solo for So So Def.
When was this???? 1998! 
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Please they had longevity in their careers, they did pretty good!
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missfee said: godyssey said: So was "Above The Rim" on their second cd? I thought that was a pretty good song. I didn' know that they had more than one cd though. I did think that they had more hit songs than "Poison" and "Do Me Baby" which were the main songs that they focused on. I remember "Dope", "When Will I See You Smile" and a few others that they didn't mention. Didn't know that Ralph was acting out, that was a surprise to me. I thought that he was so sweet like his image. I always thought that Ricky could sing. I love his background vocals on "A Little Bit Of Love" but I was really shocked to see him pull off that solo without Ralph. It was really good. I did too. Shame they didn't give him a chance to showcase his vocals during the NE days until the "Home Again" album. Then of course, you could really hear how strong his voice is while with BBD. Like I said before, he was the only one who could hold a note on the BET awards MJ tribute. I always felt that Ricky could sing way better than Ralph...though Ralph had the better looks....keyword is HAD.I think Ricky was the best singer from the group anyway. Him and Bobby | |
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missfee said: godyssey said: So was "Above The Rim" on their second cd? I thought that was a pretty good song. I didn' know that they had more than one cd though. I did think that they had more hit songs than "Poison" and "Do Me Baby" which were the main songs that they focused on. I remember "Dope", "When Will I See You Smile" and a few others that they didn't mention. Didn't know that Ralph was acting out, that was a surprise to me. I thought that he was so sweet like his image. I always thought that Ricky could sing. I love his background vocals on "A Little Bit Of Love" but I was really shocked to see him pull off that solo without Ralph. It was really good. I did too. Shame they didn't give him a chance to showcase his vocals during the NE days until the "Home Again" album. Then of course, you could really hear how strong his voice is while with BBD. Like I said before, he was the only one who could hold a note on the BET awards MJ tribute. I always felt that Ricky could sing way better than Ralph...though Ralph had the better looks....keyword is HAD.I agree, although I never thought that Ricky was unattractive, he just didn't have that umph that Ralph had. Ralph was a very good performer. | |
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ViintageJunkiie said: missfee said: I did too. Shame they didn't give him a chance to showcase his vocals during the NE days until the "Home Again" album. Then of course, you could really hear how strong his voice is while with BBD. Like I said before, he was the only one who could hold a note on the BET awards MJ tribute. I always felt that Ricky could sing way better than Ralph...though Ralph had the better looks....keyword is HAD.I think Ricky was the best singer from the group anyway. Him and Bobby Really? I don't think any of them were good or great singers. They were all just average to me. They were more entertainers than vocalists. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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daPrettyman said: ViintageJunkiie said: I think Ricky was the best singer from the group anyway. Him and Bobby Really? I don't think any of them were good or great singers. They were all just average to me. They were more entertainers than vocalists. Johhny could sing. The rest were way below average singers. I have all of their cd's though. I like a good portion of it but Ricky's solo cd was really bad. [Edited 10/29/09 9:10am] | |
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Graycap23 said: daPrettyman said: Really? I don't think any of them were good or great singers. They were all just average to me. They were more entertainers than vocalists. Johhny could sing. The rest were way below average singers. I have all of their cd's though. I like a good portion of it but Ricky's solo cd was really bad. [Edited 10/29/09 9:10am] I never got Ricky's solo cd. I'll definitely take your word on how bad it was. I really don't consider Johnny part of the group for some reason. He always seemed like the odd man out. I think he joined the group as a marketing and promotional tool for his solo career. Especially since his first few albums didn't do that well. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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phunkdaddy said: daPrettyman said: I, too, was a bit confused about the movie. All Biv said was they had big plans to celebrate NE's 25th anniversary. He didn't really discuss any details. I did learn that Ralph was a part of the reason they broke up. What I really want to know is why were they still living in the projects when they were selling millions? Their MCA debut and All For Love were big albums and their mothers were still in the hood? That's crazy. You did hear right that Bobby, Ralph and Johnny did form a group called Heads of State. They didn't really address that in this special, though. http://www.eurweb.com/sto...r49158.cfm In all, I thought it was a good special. I thought there were a few holes and gaps that should have been addressed. Come on, why wasn't BBD's 3rd album even mentioned? That album should have been mentioned and I would love to hear why they think it didn't do anything. Yeah i remember them talking about their Heads of the State project last year. I did catch bits and pieces of the BBD special last night. These guys(new edition)have just as much drama if not more than Guy/Blackstreet but somehow always seem to come together. I think they are in London doing this today ?  Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
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daPrettyman said: Graycap23 said: Johhny could sing. The rest were way below average singers. I have all of their cd's though. I like a good portion of it but Ricky's solo cd was really bad. [Edited 10/29/09 9:10am] I never got Ricky's solo cd. I'll definitely take your word on how bad it was. I really don't consider Johnny part of the group for some reason. He always seemed like the odd man out. I think he joined the group as a marketing and promotional tool for his solo career. Especially since his first few albums didn't do that well. That was designed 2 boost both careers. It was supposed 2 take NE from "boys 2 men" and help beef up Johnny as well. It worked. | |
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Graycap23 said: daPrettyman said: I never got Ricky's solo cd. I'll definitely take your word on how bad it was. I really don't consider Johnny part of the group for some reason. He always seemed like the odd man out. I think he joined the group as a marketing and promotional tool for his solo career. Especially since his first few albums didn't do that well. That was designed 2 boost both careers. It was supposed 2 take NE from "boys 2 men" and help beef up Johnny as well. It worked. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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Graycap23 said: daPrettyman said: Really? I don't think any of them were good or great singers. They were all just average to me. They were more entertainers than vocalists. Johhny could sing. The rest were way below average singers. I have all of their cd's though. I like a good portion of it but Ricky's solo cd was really bad. [Edited 10/29/09 9:10am] I agree with this too. Though Ricky is a good singer, Johnny can sing circles around all of them.....just don't depend on him to stay in sync with the dance moves though. I've seen him foul up a few times on awards shows. I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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Graycap23 said: daPrettyman said: I never got Ricky's solo cd. I'll definitely take your word on how bad it was. I really don't consider Johnny part of the group for some reason. He always seemed like the odd man out. I think he joined the group as a marketing and promotional tool for his solo career. Especially since his first few albums didn't do that well. That was designed 2 boost both careers. It was supposed 2 take NE from "boys 2 men" and help beef up Johnny as well. It worked. I never really looked at it this way. But its I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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missfee said: Graycap23 said: Johhny could sing. The rest were way below average singers. I have all of their cd's though. I like a good portion of it but Ricky's solo cd was really bad. [Edited 10/29/09 9:10am] I agree with this too. Though Ricky is a good singer, Johnny can sing circles around all of them.....just don't depend on him to stay in sync with the dance moves though. I've seen him foul up a few times on awards shows. Dancing is or never was Johnny's strong point. | |
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