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Reply #390 posted 10/26/09 7:57pm

TonyVanDam

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RKJCNE said:

TonyVanDam said:



By today's standards, THAT is "normal"! lol

lol you've got a point there, at least the bikini part of it, but the hedress? eek She used to be Cher on crack. now she is Britney on Heroin.

Anyway I just have 3 questions
1. Why, if this country is controlled by secret societies, would they allow entertainers to hint at it a bunch with their music?
2. What is the ultimate goal here? I've heard several different ones and if you even bring up that psycho Lenon Honor's gay agenda and how hollywood wants you to be gay. I WILL SLAP YOU.
3. Why does it seem like all the supposed Illuminati celebs are black or gay? or both.
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1. The recording artists that sides with The Powers That Be are pawns themselves that are doing it in the name of individual fame & wealth. And most regular people in North America are a little uneducated about the damages that secret societies has done in world history and still are today. Therefore, it's too easy for these artists to make hints about that in their music and videos because their most of their fans (especially children & teens) are clueless.

2. ULTIMATE GOAL: a continuous push for an one world government, with an one world religion, and BOTH OF IT finance by an one world banking system at the expense of our personal freedoms AND independent. In other words, we would no longer have a freedom of speech, a freedom of choices, OR a freedom of having individual beliefs.

3. In our modern times today, all undercover members of The Powers That Be are from all racial & cultural backgrounds. Biblically, the origins can be trace back to Nimrod (who was a black man). Historically, it's been a mostly white European membership for centuries. But without question, the non-white membership has grown in recent decades.
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Reply #391 posted 10/26/09 8:08pm

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RKJCNE said:

TonyVanDam said:




I'll remember THAT^ honest opinion the very next time I see the all-seeing eye in another music video. rolleyes lol

1. 2pac also studied the history of The Illuminati & secret societies in general . But he NEVER glorified that stuff as a full-time fashion statement OR a professional/personal lifestyle as Jay-Z, Kanye West, Beyonce, & Rhianna are doing today. As a matter of fact, 2pac spoke out against all of it through his music and interviews because he knew that stuff is evil in nature.

2. As for Lady Gaga, she is the David Bowie of her generation (IMO of course). But let not downplay the obvious fact that she is using some ideas taken directly from the occult as part of her gimmick. One moment, she borrowing from David & Madonna. The next moment, she borrowing from Aleister Crowley & the movie Ghostbusters.

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Personally I think the All Seeing Eye is simply considered stylish or cool by pop culture and has nothing to do with the dollar bill or secret societies. The eye is probably the most beautiful part of the human body, why not glorify it?

Ghostbusters? as in the family comedy movie? um okay...
Crowley's ideal were adapted many years ago by Jimmy page, and the Zeppelin symbols, making him and mysterious symbolism like that cool, adopted by many artists later. I have no doubt Prince and Jay Z took note. I don't think it goes much further than that.


I'll glorify the eyes of a beautiful woman, especially if I fancy her. nod But there is no way in hell that I'm going to ever glorify THIS eye:


disbelief

But that is just me of course.
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Reply #392 posted 10/27/09 12:48am

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RKJCNE said:


Personally I think the All Seeing Eye is simply considered stylish or cool by pop culture and has nothing to do with the dollar bill or secret societies.



Okay, now you seem to be choosing blissful ignorance. There is a mountain of evidence to support the facts about the all seeing eye on the money. You can PRETEND its not true but it is. Its not about "style" or "fashion" as those things aren't important to the people WHO ALREADY CONTROL IT. Who sets the standards for "pop culture"? Who brings whats popular into fruition? Think on that for a second.
Its not about money; its about POWER. CONTROL. What do you do when you have all the money you'll ever need? A lot of the people who are rich beyond their needs go into the pursuit of POWER. Its easy to be oblivious and doubtful but at least be INFORMED in the process rather than call everybody crazy. Read up on the history of the money and the symbols on it before you dismiss it so easily.

Tony made some good points. I wouldn't dismiss them so easily without checking into them a little bit. Its easy to be lazy; the truth can be hard.[/b]
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Reply #393 posted 10/27/09 1:01am

Timmy84

Here's a serious question: Will Tiffany Evans have another 20-page thread? lol
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Reply #394 posted 10/27/09 1:11am

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BlaqueKnight said:

RKJCNE said:


Personally I think the All Seeing Eye is simply considered stylish or cool by pop culture and has nothing to do with the dollar bill or secret societies.



Okay, now you seem to be choosing blissful ignorance. There is a mountain of evidence to support the facts about the all seeing eye on the money. You can PRETEND its not true but it is. Its not about "style" or "fashion" as those things aren't important to the people WHO ALREADY CONTROL IT. Who sets the standards for "pop culture"? Who brings whats popular into fruition? Think on that for a second.
Its not about money; its about POWER. CONTROL. What do you do when you have all the money you'll ever need? A lot of the people who are rich beyond their needs go into the pursuit of POWER. Its easy to be oblivious and doubtful but at least be INFORMED in the process rather than call everybody crazy. Read up on the history of the money and the symbols on it before you dismiss it so easily.

Tony made some good points. I wouldn't dismiss them so easily without checking into them a little bit. Its easy to be lazy; the truth can be hard.[/b]


Along with power, a person with too much wealth would also feel the need to dominate. And that is EXACTLY what it boils down to: Domination.


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Reply #395 posted 10/27/09 1:14am

Timmy84

Oh y'all just gonna ignore my question. Aight I see how y'all are.

Old teachers. lol
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Reply #396 posted 10/27/09 1:16am

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Timmy84 said:

Here's a serious question: Will Tiffany Evans have another 20-page thread? lol


This thread should have ended at page 7.
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Reply #397 posted 10/27/09 1:22am

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TonyVanDam said:

Timmy84 said:

Here's a serious question: Will Tiffany Evans have another 20-page thread? lol


This thread should have ended at page 7.


Then let's dead it. evillol

We should never mention a one-hit wonder here again unless it's Rockwell. lol

"I always feel like somebody's watching me..." lurking lol

And PLEASE don't go into a discussion about Rockwell's song or I'll get Madea in here. lol
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Reply #398 posted 10/27/09 1:31am

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Timmy84 said:

TonyVanDam said:



This thread should have ended at page 7.


Then let's dead it. evillol

We should never mention a one-hit wonder here again unless it's Rockwell. lol

"I always feel like somebody's watching me..." lurking lol

And PLEASE don't go into a discussion about Rockwell's song or I'll get Madea in here. lol


Rockwell had 2 career hits. And it's no secret that Somebody's Watching Me was inspired by the sci-fi novel 1984.
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Reply #399 posted 10/27/09 1:39am

Timmy84

TonyVanDam said:

Timmy84 said:



Then let's dead it. evillol

We should never mention a one-hit wonder here again unless it's Rockwell. lol

"I always feel like somebody's watching me..." lurking lol

And PLEASE don't go into a discussion about Rockwell's song or I'll get Madea in here. lol


Rockwell had 2 career hits. And it's no secret that Somebody's Watching Me was inspired by the sci-fi novel 1984.


You had to go there. lol
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Reply #400 posted 10/27/09 6:07am

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EmeraldSkies said:

So if a musician becomes crazy successful,they are satan worshippers? lol

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Reply #401 posted 10/27/09 6:53am

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BlaqueKnight said:

RKJCNE said:


Personally I think the All Seeing Eye is simply considered stylish or cool by pop culture and has nothing to do with the dollar bill or secret societies.



Okay, now you seem to be choosing blissful ignorance. There is a mountain of evidence to support the facts about the all seeing eye on the money. You can PRETEND its not true but it is. Its not about "style" or "fashion" as those things aren't important to the people WHO ALREADY CONTROL IT. Who sets the standards for "pop culture"? Who brings whats popular into fruition? Think on that for a second.
Its not about money; its about POWER. CONTROL. What do you do when you have all the money you'll ever need? A lot of the people who are rich beyond their needs go into the pursuit of POWER. Its easy to be oblivious and doubtful but at least be INFORMED in the process rather than call everybody crazy. Read up on the history of the money and the symbols on it before you dismiss it so easily.

Tony made some good points. I wouldn't dismiss them so easily without checking into them a little bit. Its easy to be lazy; the truth can be hard.[/b]


I'm well aware that the dollar bill was designed by a secretary of state who was a mason, however, I do not see how the symbolism of a All Seeing Eye is gonna hurt anyone? my father, Grandfather and many others in my backround were Masons in the late 20s and 30th degrees. I refuse to believe they were part of some mind control group. Sorry but they were good people. and there is NOT evidence, there are theories.
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Reply #402 posted 10/27/09 9:21am

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Tiffany Evans is a devil worshipper and she has taken control of this thread. somebody up in here will have their head spin around.
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Reply #403 posted 10/27/09 9:24am

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Yeah, but "selling your soul" is usually used as a metaphor, not actually meaning that Satan himself came and they made a record deal.
What people are singing and writing and saying doesn't prove anything. Since when do so many orgers believe in Satan?

If anything it sounds more like gangster, maffia kind of things going on.

There's a video called "They Sold Their Souls For Rock & Roll" with Kirk Cameron being the host. I'll admit, it's very creepy, but it gives you more details to what Evans said. Also on YouTube, a video called "Demons In The Music Industry" by John Todd. He used to run in the Illuminati circles before he became a Christian. Another video that's deep as well. Hope this helps.

Also watch "Music Industry" part 3-MJ speaks. On John Todd's tape, it talks about what goes on inside the music executive offices and what they do with the master tapes of musical artist. A must see.
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Reply #404 posted 10/27/09 10:57am

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RKJCNE said:



Personally I think the All Seeing Eye is simply considered stylish or cool by pop culture and has nothing to do with the dollar bill or secret societies.

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eek
U serious?
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Reply #405 posted 10/27/09 11:10am

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how come it's always the music industry that supposedly has devil worshippers? Surely people have sold their souls for medical degrees, NBA championships, Olympic medals, a pair of Jordan Nikes, a cheeseburger etc. confused
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Reply #406 posted 10/27/09 11:12am

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DesireeNevermind said:

how come it's always the music industry that supposedly has devil worshippers? Surely people have sold their souls for medical degrees, NBA championships, Olympic medals, a pair of Jordan Nikes, a cheeseburger etc. confused


Speaking of sports, Tony's got a satanic avatar...oops. lol
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Reply #407 posted 10/27/09 11:13am

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DesireeNevermind said:

Tiffany Evans is a devil worshipper and she has taken control of this thread. somebody up in here will have their head spin around.


Thank you! lol Someone finally said it! clapping That picture of her said it all: "GIVE YOUR SOUL TO ME AND I'LL FEED YOU SOME SHITTY MUSIC! HAHAHAHAHA!" lol
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Reply #408 posted 10/27/09 11:19am

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Timmy84 said:

DesireeNevermind said:

how come it's always the music industry that supposedly has devil worshippers? Surely people have sold their souls for medical degrees, NBA championships, Olympic medals, a pair of Jordan Nikes, a cheeseburger etc. confused


Speaking of sports, Tony's got a satanic avatar...oops. lol



sho nuff hmmm
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Reply #409 posted 10/27/09 11:20am

Timmy84

It's too bad she had to go this route, she actually can sang. sigh She's feeding the ORG some damn quarantine or something, lol
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Reply #410 posted 10/27/09 11:38am

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Timmy84 said:

It's too bad she had to go this route, she actually can sang. sigh She's feeding the ORG some damn quarantine or something, lol



you aint lyin' sad
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Reply #411 posted 10/27/09 11:38am

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- It's like this: If a 3 year old gives someone the middle finger, he may not know what he is doing, but the symbolism does not change simply because he is ignorant to the meaning; this is no different
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Reply #412 posted 10/27/09 11:40am

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DesireeNevermind said:

Timmy84 said:

It's too bad she had to go this route, she actually can sang. sigh She's feeding the ORG some damn quarantine or something, lol



you aint lyin' sad


Her voice is the type to give you that good-ass music. I'm sure as she grows up she'll use that voice to an advantage.
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Reply #413 posted 10/27/09 1:15pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

how come it's always the music industry that supposedly has devil worshippers? Surely people have sold their souls for medical degrees, NBA championships, Olympic medals, a pair of Jordan Nikes, a cheeseburger etc. confused

You're right. It's not the music industry alone.
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Reply #414 posted 10/27/09 1:33pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

how come it's always the music industry that supposedly has devil worshippers? Surely people have sold their souls for medical degrees, NBA championships, Olympic medals, a pair of Jordan Nikes, a cheeseburger etc. confused

Pretty simple really. Music is found in more people's lives that any other form of entertainment. It is fairly simple 2 control the images / lyrics/ music/ messages found in music. It's the most accessible way 2 way certain things.
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Reply #415 posted 10/27/09 1:49pm

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Graycap23 said:

DesireeNevermind said:

how come it's always the music industry that supposedly has devil worshippers? Surely people have sold their souls for medical degrees, NBA championships, Olympic medals, a pair of Jordan Nikes, a cheeseburger etc. confused

Pretty simple really. Music is found in more people's lives that any other form of entertainment. It is fairly simple 2 control the images / lyrics/ music/ messages found in music. It's the most accessible way 2 way certain things.



But shouldn't it be the film/tv industry then? That is something that is controlled by an outside group, comes with advertisement/programming and subtley dictates how one should/could live and act.

I guess I don't think of the music industry as that big of a branch of trade as is the film/television industry. Also, music is something you can produce yourself; even humming can be considered music. There's a lot of free music and public performances, church and family bands. It seems that if the devil really wanted to control people then he would focus on what we see everyday; visual images especially the ones that appear to be most like ourselves.


damn that Tiffany Evans.
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Reply #416 posted 10/27/09 1:54pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

Graycap23 said:


Pretty simple really. Music is found in more people's lives that any other form of entertainment. It is fairly simple 2 control the images / lyrics/ music/ messages found in music. It's the most accessible way 2 way certain things.



But shouldn't it be the film/tv industry then? That is something that is controlled by an outside group, comes with advertisement/programming and subtley dictates how one should/could live and act.

I guess I don't think of the music industry as that big of a branch of trade as is the film/television industry. Also, music is something you can produce yourself; even humming can be considered music. There's a lot of free music and public performances, church and family bands. It seems that if the devil really wanted to control people then he would focus on what we see everyday; visual images especially the ones that appear to be most like ourselves.


damn that Tiffany Evans.

Music is #1.
Tv # 2
Movies #3
Advertising #4
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Reply #417 posted 10/27/09 2:07pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

Timmy84 said:



Speaking of sports, Tony's got a satanic avatar...oops. lol



sho nuff hmmm


@Timmy....Excuse you, but these mofos are the ones with the pentagrams:





@Desiree....Saints are not evil. The title are use to describe angels that serves Yahweh. But I need to do a research of the Saints' logo to be sure of it.
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Reply #418 posted 10/27/09 2:21pm

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RKJCNE said:

BlaqueKnight said:




Okay, now you seem to be choosing blissful ignorance. There is a mountain of evidence to support the facts about the all seeing eye on the money. You can PRETEND its not true but it is. Its not about "style" or "fashion" as those things aren't important to the people WHO ALREADY CONTROL IT. Who sets the standards for "pop culture"? Who brings whats popular into fruition? Think on that for a second.
Its not about money; its about POWER. CONTROL. What do you do when you have all the money you'll ever need? A lot of the people who are rich beyond their needs go into the pursuit of POWER. Its easy to be oblivious and doubtful but at least be INFORMED in the process rather than call everybody crazy. Read up on the history of the money and the symbols on it before you dismiss it so easily.

Tony made some good points. I wouldn't dismiss them so easily without checking into them a little bit. Its easy to be lazy; the truth can be hard.[/b]


I'm well aware that the dollar bill was designed by a secretary of state who was a mason, however, I do not see how the symbolism of a All Seeing Eye is gonna hurt anyone? my father, Grandfather and many others in my backround were Masons in the late 20s and 30th degrees. I refuse to believe they were part of some mind control group. Sorry but they were good people. and there is NOT evidence, there are theories.


I don't know how Blaqueknight feels about that.

But I can tell you that I'm more convince that it isn't the case that you refuse to believe, but it's really that you refuse to do you own research because you fear that everything you still believe that is so "positive" about secret societies (especially Freemason) & the all-seeing eye isn't always the case.

With that said, whatever.
rolleyes
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Reply #419 posted 10/27/09 2:44pm

Timmy84

TonyVanDam said:

DesireeNevermind said:




sho nuff hmmm


@Timmy....Excuse you, but these mofos are the ones with the pentagrams:





@Desiree....Saints are not evil. The title are use to describe angels that serves Yahweh. But I need to do a research of the Saints' logo to be sure of it.


Whatever you say... whistling
Take that Yahweh mess somewhere else. lol It's Jesus, lol
The Saints logo looks like something you see in one of those "Satanic" books, lol
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