TonyVanDam said:

True.
I was a doubter...doubted til i got fed up of hearin wat I called "crazy shit" so much that I decided to take the time to research it myself.
Believe me, it ain't 'highly exaggerated" at all!

Hey Tony, about the blood sacrifice vid, my heart pounded when he started with Prince singing about "OBL gettin ready to bomb". What u think bout that?
and do U really think that every loved one that has died was a blood sacrifice?
Now that I find far-fetched, not sayin that maybe some weren't, but still...
[Edited 10/25/09 9:16am]

The Prince Osama bomb chant was referring to Osama's bombing of the day under the clinton administration and its future implications. Not "foreseeing" 9/11.

Dsoul said:

Thx for the clarification on that!
I'm thinkin that if Prince talks so much about chemtrails and what he believes it to be for, (assuming it's true),
then why would he be speakin out about it so much yet still be "associated with" "them"
Didn't add up to me.

Timmy84 said:

and gasoline draws on.

TonyVanDam said:

I consider myself to be an open-minded person and I find most of the conspiracy videos in this thread to be enlightening, but that first clip right there, talking about Samuel L. Jackson having to sleep with George Lucas to get his part in Star Wars, as to say that his pure acting talent and star status didn't get him there, and calling a christian cable station (TBN) satanic, amongst other assumptions, I found all to be farfetching and absolutely bogus. I was so ready to listen to the revelations that were in that video but instead found myself shaking my head to it all. But for those that believe every word of the guy who is speaking, I'm not knocking you. There is nothing wrong with showcasing all of the evil in the world, especially the entertainment world, but when it becomes and extreme, that's where the problem lies.

The second video about symbolism and the "all seeing eye" and the 9-11 usuage in our pop culture, was right on the money. People should be very worried about what they're wearing or have laying around their homes. Even Baby Phat products have the little demon cat or whatever that is associated with ungodly things and bad spirits from ancient times, and we're blindly wearing these things without understanding that we are embracing what they truly stand for. When people throw up the eye symbol in Jay Z's concerts, most do not have the full knowledge and they're doing it just because their idol is doing it and because everyone else. That is when it is the scariest, when you don't know, compared to those who truly know what they're doing.

"Kanye, you're satanic". And that's why his mother died?

The whole cast of Star Wars had to sleep with George Lucas? Btw, what does sleeping with the same sex have to do with loving Satan?


This all is just beyond words... These videos, texts and theories have a very religious (well, duh), right-wing, homophobic ring to them.

I mean seriously, if the industry is so satanic then why are you even spending your time dealing with music here?

I prefer buddhism.


Call me a dreamer.

Butthead: "THIS SUCKS! Hu-hu-hu-hu-hu"
Beavis: "Yeah really, heh-heh-heh-heh-heh, isn't Illuminati that rap group that talks about, uh, killing people and stuff?"
Butthead: "Yeah but they don't have guns and stuff, hu-hu-hu-hu-hu, they appear at your door step threatening you with books about fairies and stuff. Hu-hu-hu-hu-hu."
Beavis: "Yeah the Illuminati sucks, Wu-Tang is better. Heh-heh-heh-heh-heh."
Butthead: "Yeah, Wu-Tang rules! Hu-hu-hu-hu-hu!"

Beavis & Butthead humming the melody of "C.R.E.A.M."

Butthead: "Cash rules everything around me, CREAM get the money dollar dollar bill y'all! Hu-hu-hu-hu-hu, that was cool, hu-hu-hu-hu-hu."
Beavis: "Yeah, heh-heh-heh-heh-heh."

JayJai said:

Kurt Cobain didn't commit "suicide". As a matter of fact, Kurt was filing for divorce from Courtney Love just a few weeks BEFORE his death.

VenusBlingBling said:

THAT^ charge is debatable. And it does make me wonder how Billy Dee Williams ended up get a role in 2 of those Star Wars episodes.

This discussion has me thinking of those who is willing to take the red pill and those who is willing to take the blue pill.

TonyVanDam said:

What does filing for divorce have to do with committing suicide?

SUPRMAN said:

You know a lot of people think he didn't commit suicide. They think someone killed him.

daPrettyman said:

Everything that has been talked about are theories really. It's only a theory that Kurt Cobain was killed.

TotalAlisa said:

Oh, so people who AREN'T famous are people who have resisted Satan. We just support those that didn't resist Satan. I get it now . . .

How do you KNOW any of them are going to hell? You don't know their relationship with God, or more crucially, God's assessment of them.

daPrettyman said:

Well I''m satisfied it was suicide. Plenty of people don't think Elvis is dead either, but that's not convincing evidence.

SUPRMAN said:

SUPRMAN said:

They think Elvis got on an UFO or put a fat ass impostor in his bathroom.

daPrettyman said:

Exactly. It wasn't a "suicide".

SUPRMAN said:

1. If you're satisfied with the story that Kurt Cobain committed "suicide", then you tell us (especially me) what kind of excuse did Kurt have to take his own life, knowing that Courtney's drug AND psychological problems were the reason why he wanted to divorce her as part of the healing process from his own personal/professional problems (such as wanting to leave the major labels due to his growing negative views about mainstream success)?!?

2. Giving that Elvis also have a part-time career as a government agent, it's without question that he was good as dead either way (drug problems aside).

TonyVanDam said:

I don't think a public or even private excuse is required.
Everyone who commits suicide doesn't share their reasons for doing so.

SUPRMAN said:

Quote(s) of the day.
[Edited 10/25/09 23:20pm]

SUPRMAN said:

Not true in most cases. Suicide letters are written excuses. Even video recordings can be used for the victim to explain himself/herself right before committing the act.

BlaqueKnight said:

1. Don't get it twisted. I'm no Kurt Cobain fan by any means (although a song like Smells Like Teen Spirit is classic). I'm only saying that the business stakes were too high for record executives to allow Kurt to walk out on mainstream success. They knew it. The lawyers knew it. And Kurt's then-wife Courtney knew it.

And knowing that Kurt became more valuable dead than alive, the "suicide" story doesn't add up. In order to ruin the mainstream success that he hated so much, Kurt needed to be alive long enough to do so (THINK: how Dave & Lauryn ruined their own mainstream success by walking away to save themselves. )

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4. Just from life experience, the very few masons that I've meant were actually very good people. I wouldn't dare promote a stereotype that all masons are evil because it isn't true. But I will not overlook the fact that most of the 33+ degrees masons are two-faced, business wise.

BlaqueKnight said:

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3: Very true and I am sure there are devil worshippers in the music and any industry. I actually had a conversation about devil worshipping with someone some years ago and it was a pretty interesting perspective she gave me. She wasn't one but she was familiar with it and told me that many of of them aren't worshipping death and distruction but a misunderstood angel... I don't remember everything but what she was saying is that it's not like people think.
So if Tiffany says there are ppl doing devil worshipping in the industry then ok. But that actually a goat-like creature (poor goats always get to represent evil) is using musicians to affect us and that the whole industry is influenced... come on.

4: Yup, Masonry is rather the other way around. I know someone who said he was losing his interest in Masonry because some brother's where too focused on God and the Bible and preaching, that it was like church. They spend lot of time studying the Bible and researching it which was always very interesting to hear! Alot about morals as well.

And the last thing is exactly what I was trying to say earlier as well, there are powerful bad guys in every organisation, that doesn't mean their values represent the rest of the members'.

WaterInYourBath said:

The "two finger devil horn" hand symbol was taken from the Italian hand gesture to WARD OFF evil... to protect against the evil eye.

Metal heads and funk heads adopted the gesture.

Here's more:

http://www.luckymojo.com/...rnuto.html


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[Edited 10/26/09 9:07am]

dayum y'all got deep in this thread I can't leave y'all alone for nuthin.

DesireeNevermind said:

Halloween is certainly in the air

BlaqueKnight said:

Maybe J just reeeallly likes his brothers?
I'm sure he's received a lot of help... *cough*

Don't most symbols have changed meanings or several different meanings? I'm not an expert...