so is any one gonna go see that new MJ movie coming out?

i just find it strange that the people who were just outsiders, not that close to michael, hadn't seen them in years....fans....claimed that MJ was not well for these concerts when the people closest to him....his manager, dancers etc. said he was doing great. They would know....not these people who hadn't talked to him in years or never had close contact with him. I am beginning to think that something really shady happened....something bigger than manslaughter. Things do not add up.

I don't want to be the conspiracy theorist, but I agree that some things just don't add up. At the very least there's something that we're not being told.

BoOTyLiCioUs said:

Some of those fans were saying he seemed okay


It wasn't until Karen Faye changed her tune when those fans changed theirs

I don't want to be the conspiracy theorist, but I agree that some things just don't add up. At the very least there's something that we're not being told.

Can someone explain this one. To my understanding, singer Paul Anka is getting 40% royalties for the song "This Is It". If MJ wrote it, copyright it, and gave it to Sa-Fire, why is Anka getting royalties from it.

It was a drug overdose. Simple as. You don't' have to be on your deathbed for an overdose to kill you. That's why drugs are so dangerous. People seem to have this notion that MJ was being worn down, worn down, worn down and then finally this last bit of drugs killed him. I doubt that's what happened. Most likely he was fine (outside of his addiction or sleep problems) and the overdose killed him.

Otherwise healthy people die everyday from overdose. It's a sad issue.

It was a drug overdose. Simple as. You don't' have to be on your deathbed for an overdose to kill you. That's why drugs are so dangerous. People seem to have this notion that MJ was being worn down, worn down, worn down and then finally this last bit of drugs killed him. I doubt that's what happened. Most likely he was fine (outside of his addiction or sleep problems) and the overdose killed him.

Otherwise healthy people die everyday from overdose. It's a sad issue.

Superstition said:

Right...I think there are times when we [as fans] over analyze things. I agree with what you said.

Superstition said:

Right...I think there are times when we [as fans] over analyze things. I agree with what you said.

It was a drug overdose. Simple as. You don't' have to be on your deathbed for an overdose to kill you. That's why drugs are so dangerous. People seem to have this notion that MJ was being worn down, worn down, worn down and then finally this last bit of drugs killed him. I doubt that's what happened. Most likely he was fine (outside of his addiction or sleep problems) and the overdose killed him.

Otherwise healthy people die everyday from overdose. It's a sad issue.

ViintageJunkiie said:

ultimately yes t was an overdose but the fact that a doctor did it makes it worse cause then it became a homicide and he is to blame unless michael held a gun to his head.

mimi07 said:

Because Michael was surrounded by "YES!" men. They say "yes" to him because he's Michael Jackson. He pushed his own family out the picture because they were worried about him, but he didn't want them coming in trying to change how he runs his life.

mimi07 said:

Because Michael was surrounded by "YES!" men. They say "yes" to him because he's Michael Jackson. He pushed his own family out the picture because they were worried about him, but he didn't want them coming in trying to change how he runs his life.

I think it is. That's just my opinion. This doctor was making $100,000 per month. Now he's probably going to be doing some time in prison and he'll have to keep his eye out for crazies for the rest of his life. I don't see what he gained by this situation. My personal opinion is he saw dollar signs, was unethical, and messed up big time.

I also find it odd that many MJ fans seem to be absolving MJ of being an addict. I don't know why people want to tiptoe around the issue or try to call it a dependency or sugar coat it or whatever. To do so mitigates a valuable lesson and is just plain wrong in my opinion. This man had a problem, one which I don't think anyone could blame him for having seeing as the amount of pressure people put him under. But it doesn't change the fact he clearly had a problem. What other excuse is there for a hired, personal physician visiting in his home and using IV drips and things of that nature?

I just don't get the conspiracy theories. Unless some proof comes out showing otherwise, I believe he had a problem with these medications and that combined with a shitty doctor did him in.

*Let me be clear here, I'm not absolving the doctor. This guy needs to be prosecuted to the highest degree. But predetermined murder? Nah, not buying it.

I think it is. That's just my opinion. This doctor was making $100,000 per month. Now he's probably going to be doing some time in prison and he'll have to keep his eye out for crazies for the rest of his life. I don't see what he gained by this situation. My personal opinion is he saw dollar signs, was unethical, and messed up big time.

I also find it odd that many MJ fans seem to be absolving MJ of being an addict. I don't know why people want to tiptoe around the issue or try to call it a dependency or sugar coat it or whatever. To do so mitigates a valuable lesson and is just plain wrong in my opinion. This man had a problem, one which I don't think anyone could blame him for having seeing as the amount of pressure people put him under. But it doesn't change the fact he clearly had a problem. What other excuse is there for a hired, personal physician visiting in his home and using IV drips and things of that nature?

I just don't get the conspiracy theories. Unless some proof comes out showing otherwise, I believe he had a problem with these medications and that combined with a shitty doctor did him in.

*Let me be clear here, I'm not absolving the doctor. This guy needs to be prosecuted to the highest degree. But predetermined murder? Nah, not buying it.
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It was a drug overdose. Simple as. You don't' have to be on your deathbed for an overdose to kill you. That's why drugs are so dangerous. People seem to have this notion that MJ was being worn down, worn down, worn down and then finally this last bit of drugs killed him. I doubt that's what happened. Most likely he was fine (outside of his addiction or sleep problems) and the overdose killed him.

Otherwise healthy people die everyday from overdose. It's a sad issue.

alandail said:

It's been talked about ALOT on the org

i wish they did they whole song


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I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the Prince related part of the interview. Kenny Ortega tried to get Michael to stop working so hard, to stop recording and just focus on getting ready for the show. Michael said he had to channel his higher power. Ortega said, can you talk to your higher power and have them hold onto things until we get to England and we'll set up a studio at the arena and another at the hotel so you can work on new music then. Michael said I can't, if I do that, God will give the music to Prince. He went on to talk about Michael's admiration for Prince and how much he liked Purple Rain.