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Reply #420 posted 10/23/09 9:03am

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The Los Angeles Police Department have described MJ as a drug 'addict'. And given the preponderance of drugs found at Neverland in 2003 and at his place of death, how could anyone say differently?
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Everyone on this forum takes some sort of drug, you may think your not a "addict" but how would you know.....

TV, Food, Drink, Money, Sex, All Type of Pills, .....etc....

Let's not break the windows in our glass houses cool
Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
James Brown & Michael Jackson RIP, your music still lives with us!
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Reply #421 posted 10/23/09 9:19am

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CS: Since you all had experience working with him, did you get the impression that he was trying to reinvent himself in some ways or was it just a matter of giving the fans what they were expecting?
Ortega: (chuckles) He didn't need to reinvent himself. It wasn't about reinvention, but in putting the show together, at times it was about reimagining, freshening, creating new stimulus, surprises.
Bearden: Expanding ideas.
Ortega: Expanding ideas, but there were the classics that didn't need to be touched. It was a real rangey dynamic of ideas that were as simple and as basic and as intimate as Michael standing on a stage in a light with the band and the audience, to these enormous elaborate 3-dimensional motion picture production experiences. We had a cast of 70 that was planned to open the show in London. It was truly without question the most realized arena production I think ever.
Bearden: Amen.
Payne: Yes.


Well, it's not like they would admit there was no need to make MJ reinvent himself because it would have been a success with the same old stuff anyway.
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Reply #422 posted 10/23/09 9:26am

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"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #423 posted 10/23/09 9:31am

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Behind Michael Jackson's mad money:




http://money.cnn.com/2009...2009102308
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Reply #424 posted 10/23/09 9:48am

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LondonStyle said:

Copycat said:

The Los Angeles Police Department have described MJ as a drug 'addict'. And given the preponderance of drugs found at Neverland in 2003 and at his place of death, how could anyone say differently?
[Edited 10/19/09 22:07pm]



Everyone on this forum takes some sort of drug, you may think your not a "addict" but how would you know.....

TV, Food, Drink, Money, Sex, All Type of Pills, .....etc....

Let's not break the windows in our glass houses cool



most of us are sugar addicts!

But takin' bad pills is still incomparable with sugar.
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Reply #425 posted 10/23/09 9:59am

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Behind Michael Jackson's mad money:




http://money.cnn.com/2009...2009102308



Some real bitter people on this "CNN" website, the man is dead and they still hate the fact that he's making money for his kids and his mom.

The man was working from the what, the age of 5 ?, how many of those Fu*kers have done that?

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if your not a player stay out of the game biggrin
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Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
James Brown & Michael Jackson RIP, your music still lives with us!
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Reply #426 posted 10/23/09 10:12am

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Beat It is just unebelievable. What a genius was Mike. I didn´t get to hear Wanna Be Starting Something. They took it down. neutral
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #427 posted 10/23/09 10:37am

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LondonStyle said:

Graycap23 said:

Behind Michael Jackson's mad money:




http://money.cnn.com/2009...2009102308



Some real bitter people on this "CNN" website, the man is dead and they still hate the fact that he's making money for his kids and his mom.

The man was working from the what, the age of 5 ?, how many of those Fu*kers have done that?

neutral

if your not a player stay out of the game biggrin
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I really think Michael would have come back big time with this London thing, but sometimes GOD has bigger plans...

His children will never, ever have to want. And all that because of their Daddy.
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Reply #428 posted 10/23/09 11:02am

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LondonStyle said:




Some real bitter people on this "CNN" website, the man is dead and they still hate the fact that he's making money for his kids and his mom.

The man was working from the what, the age of 5 ?, how many of those Fu*kers have done that?

neutral

if your not a player stay out of the game biggrin
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I really think Michael would have come back big time with this London thing, but sometimes GOD has bigger plans...

His children will never, ever have to want. And all that because of their Daddy.


i wish i could be as optomistic as you about that. already the family is muscling in to try to exercise control of the estate. even if they aren't successful in removing branca, they will be successful in preying upon mj's kids in the same way they preyed upon mj. i believe one of the reasons for mj's constant need for money - as expressed by sony, so take with grain of salt - didn't always have to do with him. he may have been a spendthrift, but when you also have family members who also expect to maintain your lifestyle, there's going to be trouble. that alleged $300 mil debt didn't come from him alone.

madonna's family doesn't live the way she does. why? because *she* made her money, therefore she gets to live off of the fruits of *her* efforts and she doesn't feel obligated to fly her extended family in private jets around the world or maintain a rock star lifestyle for them. i'm sure she helps within reason, but that's the extent of it. that's not the way it is with mj's family. you got ex-wives and children at havenhurst that mj felt obligated to provide for and they're still there now. mj's kids' cousins are now used to a life of dependency, and like any type of generational 'welfare' they're going to feel entitled to everything that prince, paris, and blanket have.

no, if someone doesn't step in between that family and those kids, expect their lives to turn out as sad as their father's. neutral
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Reply #429 posted 10/23/09 11:04am

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LondonStyle said:

Copycat said:

The Los Angeles Police Department have described MJ as a drug 'addict'. And given the preponderance of drugs found at Neverland in 2003 and at his place of death, how could anyone say differently?
[Edited 10/19/09 22:07pm]



Everyone on this forum takes some sort of drug, you may think your not a "addict" but how would you know.....

TV, Food, Drink, Money, Sex, All Type of Pills, .....etc....

Let's not break the windows in our glass houses cool



Rubbish. You can't compare those things to Propofol abuse.
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Reply #430 posted 10/23/09 11:06am

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kibbles said:

sag10 said:



I really think Michael would have come back big time with this London thing, but sometimes GOD has bigger plans...

His children will never, ever have to want. And all that because of their Daddy.


i wish i could be as optomistic as you about that. already the family is muscling in to try to exercise control of the estate. even if they aren't successful in removing branca, they will be successful in preying upon mj's kids in the same way they preyed upon mj. i believe one of the reasons for mj's constant need for money - as expressed by sony, so take with grain of salt - didn't always have to do with him. he may have been a spendthrift, but when you also have family members who also expect to maintain your lifestyle, there's going to be trouble. that alleged $300 mil debt didn't come from him alone.

madonna's family doesn't live the way she does. why? because *she* made her money, therefore she gets to live off of the fruits of *her* efforts and she doesn't feel obligated to fly her extended family in private jets around the world or maintain a rock star lifestyle for them. i'm sure she helps within reason, but that's the extent of it. that's not the way it is with mj's family. you got ex-wives and children at havenhurst that mj felt obligated to provide for and they're still there now. mj's kids' cousins are now used to a life of dependency, and like any type of generational 'welfare' they're going to feel entitled to everything that prince, paris, and blanket have.

no, if someone doesn't step in between that family and those kids, expect their lives to turn out as sad as their father's. neutral


I don't know about the dependency... but his children have separate lawyers that are handling their estates. Which is good.
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Reply #431 posted 10/23/09 11:08am

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LondonStyle said:




Everyone on this forum takes some sort of drug, you may think your not a "addict" but how would you know.....

TV, Food, Drink, Money, Sex, All Type of Pills, .....etc....

Let's not break the windows in our glass houses cool



Rubbish. You can't compare those things to Propofol abuse.


This is all so redundant, the man is gone. What does it matter now?
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Reply #432 posted 10/23/09 11:13am

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Michael Jackson Fans Say 'This Is It' Covers Up Grim Reality
October 23, 2009

A small group of Michael Jackson's dedicated fans have started an "awareness" campaign surrounding the upcoming movie "This is It," saying it covers up the grim reality of the dead pop star's final days.

The group represents fans from at least 10 countries who claim the movie, which hits theatres around the world on October 28 and is based on Jackson's rehearsals for a series of London concerts, conceals the "dire state" of his health while enriching its promoters that they hold partly responsible for his death on June 25.

"In the weeks leading up to Michael Jackson's death, while this footage was being shot, people around him knew that he looked like he might have died. Those who stood to make a profit chose to ignore it," the group says on its website, www.this-is-not-it.com.

Jackson was preparing for the concerts at the time of his sudden death, which was ruled a homicide by the Los Angeles County Coroner and attributed to an overdose of the powerful aesthetic propofol as well as the sedative lorazepam.

Police have focussed their investigation into his death on the entertainer's personal physician, Dr. Conrad Murray. So far, no charges have been filed.

Kenny Ortega, the director of "This is It" who also was choreographing the concert rehearsals, told Reuters earlier this week that he saw no signs of drug dependency in Jackson, that the singer was excited to be performing and that the film was not intended to make a profit.

In a separate interview on Thursday, Ortega called the movie a "musical mosaic...that I think will help the fans come to appreciate and understand what Michael was putting into "This Is It", what his dreams were for it, what his goals were for it."

"It is a story of a master of his craft, a great genius in his final theatrical work and creative process," Ortega said.

The concert promoters, AEG Live, did not return calls for comment.

The group is made up largely of longtime Jackson fans, some of whom have spent time with the entertainer over the years and attended nearly every day of his 2005 child molestation trial.

They say they became so concerned about Jackson's health that on June 21, four days before his death, they wrote to him asking him to stop the tour if he was not up to it.

"It is our wish to help people understand where the responsibilities lie, pertaining to Michael Jackson's passing, in the hope that if they choose to watch the film, they will do so with critical eyes," the group said in a written statement.

"In fact, we believe that those around Jackson chose to look the other way when it was evident he was having problems," the fans said.

"We want to celebrate Michael Jackson and his amazing legacy, but we cannot do so until the truth comes out, justice is served and the lies are exposed." eek

The fans say they will hand out fliers promoting their cause at the premieres next week for "This is It."



http://www.billboard.com/...9980.story
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Reply #433 posted 10/23/09 11:20am

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"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #434 posted 10/23/09 11:22am

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oh god the crazy ass fans who stalked michael and claim they knew best but did nothing or not enough to prevent this.
"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #435 posted 10/23/09 11:24am

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oh god the crazy ass fans who stalked michael and claim they knew best but did nothing or not enough to prevent this.


You know? rolleyes sigh
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Reply #436 posted 10/23/09 11:30am

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what the hell is going on? lol

MIssed you all hug
MICHAEL JACKSON
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مايكل جاكسون للأبد
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Reply #437 posted 10/23/09 11:34am

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mimi07 said:

oh god the crazy ass fans who stalked michael and claim they knew best but did nothing or not enough to prevent this.


You know? rolleyes sigh


if they wanna protest somethng they should take ther behinds down to the LAPD, these same fans were glad to follow, chat and take pictures with with michael just some months ago. AEG will make money regardless, they already sold the film, 90% of this money goes to michael's estate.

DAMN for these 2 week i wish it could be about the music and the icon michael is, there is always drama. the investugation is still going, his estate and now fans wanna boycott his movie.shit
"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #438 posted 10/23/09 11:37am

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seeingvoices12 said:

what the hell is going on? lol

MIssed you all hug


hug

madness, i'm gonna have to get my switch out. these fans claim to care about michael but they're PROFITING from this by selling shit on their site.
"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #439 posted 10/23/09 11:43am

Timmy84

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Timmy84 said:



You know? rolleyes sigh


if they wanna protest somethng they should take ther behinds down to the LAPD, these same fans were glad to follow, chat and take pictures with with michael just some months ago. AEG will make money regardless, they already sold the film, 90% of this money goes to michael's estate.

DAMN for these 2 week i wish it could be about the music and the icon michael is, there is always drama. the investugation is still going, his estate and now fans wanna boycott his movie.shit


I agree, it's sad.
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Reply #440 posted 10/23/09 11:43am

Timmy84

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what the hell is going on? lol

MIssed you all hug


A lot of craziness, lol

WB, dude! wave
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Reply #441 posted 10/23/09 12:04pm

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Craziness galore! Sorry I am gonna have to call Madea on this one.. smile
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Reply #442 posted 10/23/09 12:30pm

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i don´t even know what to think of those fans boycotting the movie. I am going to see it. I don´t care who´s gonna make money off this. Mike´s kids will definately earn some money on this and I will be happy to support them. I just wanna see Mike and what he was preparing for us and appreciate his genius. I know Mike wouldn´t wanna show us rehearsals that he did not feel were "perfect" being the perfectionist he was, but I don´t need to be dazzled to appreciate the film. I just love him and I wanna see him ALIVE again.

I try not to think about his death and figure out theories about why he died and blame people, I´m over that already. It would drive me crazy and it wouldn´t bring him back anyway. I am just trying enjoy whatever I can about him including this film.
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"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #443 posted 10/23/09 12:38pm

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i don´t even know what to think of those fans boycotting the movie. I am going to see it. I don´t care who´s gonna make money off this. Mike´s kids will definately earn some money on this and I will be happy to support them. I just wanna see Mike and what he was preparing for us and appreciate his genius. I know Mike wouldn´t wanna show us rehearsals that he did not feel were "perfect" being the perfectionist he was, but I don´t need to be dazzled to appreciate the film. I just love him and I wanna see him ALIVE again.

I try not to think about his death and figure out theories about why he died and blame people, I´m over that already. It would drive me crazy and it wouldn´t bring him back anyway. I am just trying enjoy whatever I can about him including this film.
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Amen, and Amen.
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Reply #444 posted 10/23/09 12:47pm

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I think i will go after all It is gonna break my heart.
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Reply #445 posted 10/23/09 1:30pm

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I think i will go after all It is gonna break my heart.

You didn´t wanna go and see it?
It will break my heart as well, but I gotta see it.

Anyway, here´s a video of Mike being Mike. Just too adorable.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #446 posted 10/23/09 1:35pm

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The JACK5ONS- A Family Dynasty

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Reply #447 posted 10/23/09 1:35pm

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i don´t even know what to think of those fans boycotting the movie. I am going to see it. I don´t care who´s gonna make money off this. Mike´s kids will definately earn some money on this and I will be happy to support them. I just wanna see Mike and what he was preparing for us and appreciate his genius. I know Mike wouldn´t wanna show us rehearsals that he did not feel were "perfect" being the perfectionist he was, but I don´t need to be dazzled to appreciate the film. I just love him and I wanna see him ALIVE again.

I try not to think about his death and figure out theories about why he died and blame people, I´m over that already. It would drive me crazy and it wouldn´t bring him back anyway. I am just trying enjoy whatever I can about him including this film.
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I'm still not going, i just feel it is too soon. I'll wait for the DVD,
I think it's entirely possible haters might be in attendance talking shit at the cinema, and purposefully ruining the experience. Could you imagine the poignant ending being ruined? that would suck.

Could cause fatalities, folks attacking folks. i see it happening. confused
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Reply #448 posted 10/23/09 1:37pm

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dag said:

i don´t even know what to think of those fans boycotting the movie. I am going to see it. I don´t care who´s gonna make money off this. Mike´s kids will definately earn some money on this and I will be happy to support them. I just wanna see Mike and what he was preparing for us and appreciate his genius. I know Mike wouldn´t wanna show us rehearsals that he did not feel were "perfect" being the perfectionist he was, but I don´t need to be dazzled to appreciate the film. I just love him and I wanna see him ALIVE again.

I try not to think about his death and figure out theories about why he died and blame people, I´m over that already. It would drive me crazy and it wouldn´t bring him back anyway. I am just trying enjoy whatever I can about him including this film.
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I'm still not going, i just feel it is too soon. I'll wait for the DVD,
I think it's entirely possible haters might be in attendance talking shit at the cinema, and purposefully ruining the experience. Could you imagine the poignant ending being ruined? that would suck.

Could cause fatalities, folks attacking folks. i see it happening. confused


I wanna say I hope not but you may have a point. confused
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Reply #449 posted 10/23/09 1:43pm

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dag said:

i don´t even know what to think of those fans boycotting the movie. I am going to see it. I don´t care who´s gonna make money off this. Mike´s kids will definately earn some money on this and I will be happy to support them. I just wanna see Mike and what he was preparing for us and appreciate his genius. I know Mike wouldn´t wanna show us rehearsals that he did not feel were "perfect" being the perfectionist he was, but I don´t need to be dazzled to appreciate the film. I just love him and I wanna see him ALIVE again.

I try not to think about his death and figure out theories about why he died and blame people, I´m over that already. It would drive me crazy and it wouldn´t bring him back anyway. I am just trying enjoy whatever I can about him including this film.
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I'm still not going, i just feel it is too soon. I'll wait for the DVD,
I think it's entirely possible haters might be in attendance talking shit at the cinema, and purposefully ruining the experience. Could you imagine the poignant ending being ruined? that would suck.

Could cause fatalities, folks attacking folks. i see it happening. confused

I hope not. I will have hard times coping with the film itself. But I don´t think it´ll be that hot over here. If that happens, it will suck big time.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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