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dearmother said:

It's funny that Janet mentioned that the jacket worn at Motown 25 was Katherines, but in an interview, Michael said he got it from a salvation army store around 1981-82 and said something like, "one day, i'm going to perform in this jacket"

ViintageJunkiie said:

oh dang i trust michaels memory more than janets

dearmother said:

Maybe he brought it for that purpose but it never panned out so he gave it to his mum. Then finally decided to perform in it after all and had to take it back from her. Who knows?

dearmother said:

It's funny that Janet mentioned that the jacket worn at Motown 25 was Katherines, but in an interview, Michael said he got it from a salvation army store around 1981-82 and said something like, "one day, i'm going to perform in this jacket"

Arnotts said:

Exactly. We don't really know, lol Besides why a jacket that shiny be in the Salvation Army?

Timmy84 said:

Sorry, it wasn't a salvation army. Here's what he said in the 1988 "Moonwalk" book.

"During the Thriller sessions, I had found a black jacket, and I said, "You know, someday I'm going to wear this to perform. It was so perfect and so show business that I wore it on Motown 25."

Timmy84 said:

Sorry, it wasn't a salvation army. Here's what he said in the 1988 "Moonwalk" book.

"During the Thriller sessions, I had found a black jacket, and I said, "You know, someday I'm going to wear this to perform. It was so perfect and so show business that I wore it on Motown 25."

dag said:

Even if it is a low act to release something without being able to get someones permission I don't think Shmuley is releasing these tapes with bad intentions or a purely money-making motive. I think he really believes this will show a human side to Michael that no one really knows and views it as a way for people to see inside Michaels head better.

I think the friendship ended for the same reason Michaels marriage to Lisa ended. They couldnt handle what Michael was doing to himself and the world that he lived in. It was harming their own lives. I can't even imagine how painful it would be to watch someone you love bear that kind of pain and not be able to do anything about it. Michael was a stubborn guy who found it impossible to break his habits and ways of dealing with his problems. I can totally understand Michael and relate to the way he was, but I also understand Shmuley's, and all his 'backstabbing friends' side.

I've got my tickets to 3 screenings of This Is It in Sydney, Australia.

On the Wednesday night I have Gold Class tickets - which means a small private theatre with I think 30 recliner seats in it.

Friday night - I am seeing it at a full on cinema.

Saturday night in IMAX.

Will be interesting to see how the different size audiences will change the enjoyment level of the film.

Anyone else get tickets?

Swa

Timmy84 said:

They overhype everything the man did ..everything.

and that so called friend called rabbi, what a shame , I wonder how much they paid him to give them all of this, Im shocked about the nature of human beings surrounding Mj, they are all sick backstabbers.
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Arnotts said:

See, I am not sure how Mike´s habits were that much of a reason of their breakup, but I think the main reason was she woulodn´t have kids with him which is something Lisa, of course, won´t say.
I am also not sure how genuine Schmuley is. I never liked him, but the reason why they broke up was because he stole money from MIke´s Heal the Kids foundation and I don´t think anyone who does that can be called guniune and not the one with financial motives. I never liked any of those people MIke hung out in 2002/2003 - Uri, Schmuley and all those. Funny, he parted very soon with them.

seeingvoices12 said:

I'm past sick of people, sometimes I feel like i just want a cat and that's all. People are sick, I don't know or care if it's just in this country or over the world but the exploitive mentality is sickening on all levels to me. What the fuck good is "friendship"? Shmuley and many others take the expert stance and also use the "may have" approach about the allegations, well, if you were his friend and you truly don't know, you wouldn't even say "may have done egreious things", you'd shut your fucking mouth but I guess that would be too boring and not newsworthy. How Mike maintained any faith in humanity is beyond me, I've just about lost all mine' and that's without all the uber-leaches that come out with fame, just everyday fuckers.

dag said:

By the way Lisa talks I get the idea that she was going to have kids with him at first but then as she really got to know him, discovered how deep his problems actually were and just how self destructive he was and decided it was a bad idea untill he dealt with his problems and grew to what she thought was strong enough to handle the responsibility. Obviously by the way things have turned out she was wise in her decision, although I would love to have seen what there kids would be like.

Arnotts said:

See, if Lisa wanted to have kids with him, she wouldn´t have taken birth control pills. If she wanted to wait for a while, she should have told him and not promise that it would be the first thing they´d do. Can you imagine his frustration that after so many months of them being together, she was not pregnant and he didn´t know why? I am sure he was working on them hard. During their mariage, I´ve read at least two quotes by him that they were "working" on them and Lisa once said that he wouldn´t let her. She should have been honest about it cause she knew how desperate he was to have them. Maybe if she have had them with him and their marriage would last, many of his problems could have been solved.

I was thinking about the whole tapes and the more I hear from Mike, the more I respect him. I think that when he said that everyone else would be been dead or junkie in his shoes is so true. To me, Mike did the best with what he had to go through. Not having childhood, never getting to experience anything normal, having abusive father, being accused of child molestation twice, being laughed at for the way he looked (it´s funny how the world that is obssesed with looks and not getting old points to him as having mental problems for saying he did not want to grow old), getting accused for not wanting to be black while he had vitiligo, everyone using you or betraying you....Mike how in the world did you manage to get through all that and maitain some optimism and faith in human kind especially when you are so sensitive and shy? How in the world were you so passionate about helping people when they have let you down so badly? How come you will not find one single journalist paying you some respect of how you managed to handle your life without questioning your mental health?...Whatever Mike said, you can tell he was trying to do his best to understand how the world treated him...whether his assumptions were correct or not does not matter. He was just trying to explain things to him...things that I, even as an onlooker who does not have to DEAL with it, cannot explain...

I am not sure if I make sense but whatever....



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tangerine7 said:

Sad that Michael had to die in order for all this shit (videos/interviews/pictures) to be released.

Also, the videos are at such a bad angle. It looks like he don't even have any lips
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tangerine7 said:

Sad that Michael had to die in order for all this shit (videos/interviews/pictures) to be released.

Also, the videos are at such a bad angle. It looks like he don't even have any lips
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ViintageJunkiie said:

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING!

and yeah horrible angle, why they all up in his nose lol