EmeraldSkies said:

The release date is Oct 21st.

@ MJ saying "Hot Tub!" at the end of part 2 of his Brett Ratner interview. I seriously think me and MJ could've hanged out. The guy was still impressionable as I am. We could've listened to Motown all fucking day.

Michael Jackson and The Black Experience
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For black American men of a certain generation — my generation — the death of Michael Jackson is a particularly heavy loss.


One of my best memories of MJ is from my seventh birthday party, in September 1984.

The period was, in many ways, a high point for black people in American pop culture: Jackson was at his professional peak, and The Cosby Show was just about to debut, giving the country and, eventually, the world, the first true lesson in what it means to be black and middle class. At my party, in my grandmother's New Orleans backyard, MJ's then mocha-toned face was everywhere: on the balloons, the napkins, the paper plates. Even the cake was shaped like MJ's head, with black jheri curls. Some of the best gifts I received were leather jackets — one black, the other red — splattered with shiny, silver buttons and zippers. (No glove.) My mom and dad also gave me every single, on vinyl, that MJ had ever recorded solo.

I couldn't wait to go back to my room and bump to "Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough" from my little record player. Or for the weather in New Orleans to turn cool, so I could finally wear one of my jackets.


I wasn't the only black kid who wanted to grow up to be MJ — or had parents who wanted the same thing. I didn't care about the ridicule that might have come from those who'd already dismissed Michael as not black enough, even though, at 7, I was already wrestling with my racial identity. Within a year, most of the record collection had been scratched from overuse or lost. In hindsight, it was far too precious a gift for a 7-year-old. I cringe at the thought of how valuable they might be today.



As I matured, I remained an MJ loyalist, even as he embarked on his often startling evolution: the skin-lightening, the child-molestation charges, the marriage to Lisa Marie Presley. I did not consider him a pariah. Nor did most of my black friends. That reverence was rooted in the fact that MJ's defiance of easy categorization showed us it was O.K. to be different.

But even while being different, he remained true. His appearance kept changing but you could hear his roots. His music managed to retain its authenticity, its soulfulness, even as it ventured further into pop. We were proud of how his ambition, talent and market power punctured MTV's predominantly white lineup.



Of course, like everyone else, black men wondered about MJ's physical and mental health, and what drove him to dangle one of his kids from a German hotel room's balcony. But rarely did we air those concerns publicly.

For some, it was more comfortable to remember the "old Mike," or "black Mike" — the one with the Afro, wide nose and plump cheeks, before he morphed into something resembling a gaunt white woman. Some sociologists may argue that our collective reluctance to demonize or abandon MJ at the height of his troubles was rooted in our inability to confront issues like child abuse and gender identity.

But our loyalty stems from something else. First, his talent. Second, the arc of his biography struck a chord: his persistent struggle for respect and redemption — the comeback attempts, the efforts to surmount his recurring financial crises — mirrored the battles that many of us endure daily, albeit in a smaller scale. Even the question of his pigmentation became a metaphor for the black experience in America: he was not comfortable in his own skin, just as black men have not been made to feel comfortable in ours for most of this country's history.

The tragedy is that MJ never got to complete the trajectory we hoped he would.

He would not live to see redemption. He would die with his eccentricities unexplained, his career unresurrected, his glorious achievements fossilized in the past, the accusations of child molestation an indelible scarlet letter. African Americans know that as well as everyone else. We are an often harsh and demanding people. But, we know where Michael came from. And ultimately, we are
forgiving.

http://www.time.com/time/...72,00.html

i'm still not totally convinced glenda tapes are real

dearmother said:

the thing that got me about these tapes was wasn't they online at that site where those who 'bought' them.. while michael was alive? couldn't or would've he done something???


[Edited 9/28/09 10:20am]

yeah theyre old

it sounds like michael but so many people are obsessed with michael i'm sure theres a lotta good voice impersonators out there.

some expressions he uses are VERy michael, he says "pardon" and just little things. i'm torn

dearmother said:

yea i can understand why... heck my mom was listening to them awhile ago she said the part where 'he' always answers/says "yea" sounds like Michael... so idk uhmmm

mozfonky said:

Amen, and Amen!

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Unprecedented Number of Sell-Outs Reported Worldwide for First Showings of 'Michael Jackson's This Is It'

Highly Anticipated Motion Picture Generates Huge Demand Around the World. Online Ticket Services Report Hundreds Of Sold-Out Shows in First Day of North American Advance Sales. More Than $1 Million In Ticket Sales In Japan Alone. 'I've never seen anything like it in the 25 years I have been film buying,' says UK Exhibitor

CULVER CITY, Calif., Sept. 28 /PRNewswire/ -- Sony Pictures Entertainment, in conjunction with Sony Music Entertainment, today announced that the first 24-hours of pre-sales activity for Michael Jackson's This Is It has resulted in record-breaking sales throughout the world as fans secure the first tickets to the two-week, limited engagement of the highly-anticipated motion picture.
With reports still coming in from nations around the world, it is believed no movie in history has generated so many ticket sales so far in advance of its release.

In North America, online ticket sellers Fandango and MovieTickets.com report that there is extraordinary demand for the film with hundreds of showtimes already sold out after one day of pre-sales. Some 80% of all online ticketing service transactions were for the film, which will debut in some markets with special advance showings the evening of Tuesday, October 27 and will open worldwide on Wednesday, October 28. The film is directed by long-time Jackson collaborator Kenny Ortega.

Domestically, an unprecedented number of shows for the two-week engagement have sold out in the first 24 hours of ticket availability in locations from coast-to-coast, including such cities as Los Angeles, San Francisco, Houston, Nashville and New York, among others. Internationally, exhibitors from London and Sydney to Bangkok and Tokyo have experienced the same epic demand.

In London, Vue Entertainment's Film Buying Director Stuart Boreman said Michael Jackson's This Is It sold more than 30,000 tickets in its first 24-hours, setting the biggest ever one-day sales record in the UK, eclipsing advance buying for films including Harry Potter and The Lord of the Rings. "I've never seen anything like it in the 25 years I have been film buying," Boreman said. "It's a true phenomenon and sales show no sign of slowing down."

In the United States, more than 500,000 fans performed searches for showtimes on the official www.thisisit-movie.com website. Online buzz for Michael Jackson's This Is It was 60 percent higher Sunday than for any other upcoming film.

Commenting on the extraordinary results, Rory Bruer, President of Worldwide Theatrical Distribution for Sony Picture Releasing said, "Michael Jackson's fans all over the globe have enormous interest in this film and we can assure they will not be disappointed. This film delivers on everything they hope and expect to see. I think the initial sales activity we are seeing in the United States and United Kingdom to countries such as Australia and Thailand underscores the unique nature of this film, which is a special celebration of Michael and his music."

In Japan, more than $1 million in ticket sales were recorded within the first 24 hours of their release, setting an advanced-sales record unmatched by any movie in history.

Staggering advance sales were reported in Australia, where tickets for Michael Jackson's This Is It purchased through Village Cinemas exceeded the lifetime pre-sales of such blockbusters as Transformers, and X-Men Origins.

In Bangkok, Thailand, fans lined up at box office ticket counters throughout the city, and by the end of the first day, all tickets for the first showings across Bangkok were sold-out.

In Los Angeles, at Regal Cinema's LA LIVE Stadium 14, fans began lining up on Thursday night for tickets to some of the city's first public showings, and within hours of Sunday morning's starting bell for advance pre-sales, the exhibitor reported selling out of all 3,000 of their seats for shows on Tuesday night October 27th.

Sell-outs at theaters in France are also being reported; thousands of fans lined up at The Grand Rex in Paris and quickly bought out the film's first screening there. Record-setting sales also were recorded in Germany; hundreds of fans lined up outside one theater in Munich at midnight to await the opening of the box office. As one German exhibitor noted, "Something like this never happened before in Germany."

Record sales and sell-outs are also being reported in Holland, Sweden, Belgium and New Zealand, among other countries.

Moviegoers worldwide can get information for the two-week limited engagement by visiting www.thisisit-movie.com. For fans wishing to discover the closest theater playing the film near their home in North America, please call (877) 488-4258.

Michael Jackson's This Is It will offer Jackson fans and music lovers worldwide a rare, behind-the-scenes look at the performer as he developed, created and rehearsed for his sold-out concerts that would have taken place beginning this summer in London's O2 Arena. Chronicling the months from March through June, 2009, the film is produced with the full support of the Estate of Michael Jackson and drawn from more than one hundred hours of behind-the-scenes footage, featuring Jackson rehearsing a number of his songs for the show. Audiences will be given a privileged and private look at Jackson as he has never been seen before. In raw and candid detail, Michael Jackson's This Is It captures the singer, dancer, filmmaker, architect, creative genius, and great artist at work as he creates and perfects his final show. Kenny Ortega, who was both Michael Jackson's creative partner and the director of the stage show, is also directing the film, which is being produced by Randy Phillips, Kenny Ortega and Paul Gongaware. Executive producers are John Branca and John McClain. The film will be distributed worldwide by Sony Pictures Releasing. For more information about the film please visit www.thisisit-movie.com.

Sony Music Entertainment's Columbia/Epic Label Group will release a two-disc album "This Is It" featuring music inspired by the motion picture. The album will be available internationally on October 26th and in North America on October 27th.

tangerine7 said:

Still making history...

i dont know if it was posted before but i thought it was a cool story


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Posted by DjTunes on 2009/9/8 13:10:00 News by the same author
In The News

Linda Hobbs talks to producer Rodney Jerkins about playing pilot on MJ's final studio album.

About twenty-five years ago, Rodney Jerkins had his mind set on one goal: to work with the King of Pop.

The super-producer, who has worked with Whitney Houston and Beyonce among others, wish came true around 1993 when Teddy Riley linked Jerkins with his shy hero. Jerkins convincingly campaigned to produce new millennium Michael. The two soon began work on what became Michael's earnest attempt at recapturing praise for his music...




At 19-years-old, Jerkins was given the task of producing the bulk of Michael's last full studio album, Invincible, amongst a teeny-bop generation who were embracing his copycats.
Even though it sold 13 million copies worldwide, the album was picked apart by critics. A day after Jackson's funeral, Jerkins calls VIBE from California to reminisce on the album that got away.

VIBE: You were around 19 when you started working on Invincible. You guys became friends in the process. What was the friendship like?

RODNEY JERKINS: Sometimes he would come to my house for dinner, or I'd go out with him and his kids. It's really trust. You build trust around each other. He use to tell me all the time, "You're a true loyal friend." And he knew that when certain situations arose, I had his back.

I'll never forget, Michael just let me take all my friends and literally gave me Neverland Ranch. He'd be like, "I have to go to Germany for a month," and just leave. I'd call everybody I knew, like, "Yo, party at Neverland!"

Plus we would have bets, like whoever wins gets like a 100 DVDs. He beat me the first time and I took him to Virgin Mega Store in Times Square and got him like a 100 DVDs. We went late at night. The first time he went to the store, he was in disguise. But a fan noticed him and blew the whole cover.

Why did the album take so long to finish? You guys were going at it for three years.
It was a lot of starting and stopping. Like, we would stop for three months and then Michael would be like, "I got to go to Germany for a couple months," then he'd go to LA, it was that kind of situation. And I remember one time, he was like, "Let's start from scratch...I think we can beat everything we did." That was his perfectionist side. I was like "Man, we been working for a year, we gone scrap everything?!" But it showed how hard he goes.

You were cool with that?
Yeah, I was. You got to understand, when I worked with Michael I had already worked with everybody. I was making a lot of money to be able to work on just one thing. And there was a time where he took a break, and Brandy's Full Moon project came up, and I told Michael, "I got to do this album." I was working on both at exactly the same time, at the Hit Factory in Miami. And I was literally running back and forth.

I heard you videotaped the Invincible studio sessions. Have you released that yet?
Shh![laughs]. I'll just say Michael asked me to document everything. And I did. And I'm sure one day it'll see the light of day. I got to make sure it's made in the way Michael would want to see it.

Do you ever go back and watch the footage?
All the time.

What was Jackson like in the studio? Timid?
No! He was super vocal. He was so hands on. I'm talking about from the high hat to everything. The sound quality was so important to him. He looked at everything under a microscope, like, "The middle frequency is too much"--he was very technical. He use to always say, "Melody is king" so he really focused in on melody.

Let's be honest: are you proud of the outcome of Invincible
There's stuff we didn't put on the album that I wish was on the album. My first batch [of beats] is what I really wanted him to do. I was trying to really go vintage, old school Mike. And that's what a lot of my first stuff was, that I was presenting to him. He kept "Rock My World." But he wanted to go more futuristic. So I would find myself at like junkyards, and we'd be out hitting stuff, to create our sound.

I think Invincible needs to be re-released. Because something happened at the record company [Sony] that caused them not to promote it no more after we done put our heart and soul in it. He had about five singles on the album. But it came down to who can stop who. And he was caught up in that mess.

A lot of critics criticized the album for being so long. Was it Jackson's idea to make the album really long?
[Laughs] It was Michael's idea. It was long. He didn't make that transition of doing shorter albums, and this is the guy...it was literally nine songs on Thriller. We actually had that conversation where I was like, "You should make it 10 songs and that's it." You never know... maybe he felt like that would be his last album.

Do you still listen to it?
Sometimes. A couple of weeks ago, I listened to it.

Does it make you sad?
Not at all. I'm sad inside that I lost a friend. He always wanted his music to touch the masses. And that's exactly what it's doing right now. But it was an amazing period of time in my life to be able to work with him. It feels incredible to know... I handled his last number one record.

Source : Vibe

There's gonna be a classic episode of Soul Train on the BETJ Replacement channel "CENTRIC" tonight featuring the Jackson 5 at 9PM tonight ya'll

Abdul said:

Centric already started? I think my cable still has BETJ listed

bboy87 said:

Yeah I thought they wouldn't start until next week but today I was watching Real Chance Of Love on VH1, LOL!!, and after the show I hit the guide button on my remote and saw that Centric was up and they've been showing episodes of "Fame" all day.

Abdul said:

well I know what I'll be watching tonight

Anyone ever notice that the zombie in the purple (to the far right of MJ) doesn't jump with the rest of them?

Fast forward to 1:11 (embedding is disabled)

Abdul said:

LOL BETJ, mine ain't changed from BET JAzz yet.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

My new box from Time Warner's got Centric playing right now.

dearmother said:

Others may believe it's him on those tapes, but I don't. That's not Michael's voice. But the Rabbi tapes? That's definitely MJ.

WaterInYourBath said:

Ditto! I still don't believe that was MJ on those Glenda tapes.

tangerine7 said:

Is this one of those unreleased songs? I have never heard it before. Damn he could sure move.

EmeraldSkies said:

Yepp! It was a demo from the Bad album session

ViintageJunkiie said:

Well I hope they release it,I really like it.

EmeraldSkies said:

It was released on 2004

ViintageJunkiie said:

I never noticed that. They jump,and she keeps swinging her arms.