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PrintableSoulAlive said: Superstition said: Because its redundant. I always hoped that Michael would just say "Yeah,I had plastic surgery....alot of it,in fact.It's what I wanted to do and I did it.It's my life....next question,please".  No need to lie about it,just be honest and have a "Fuck you" attitude about it.Yeah it's like he knew his most rabid fans would argue anyone who disputed it under the table just cuz he said so. He could've not been specific ie "Yes I've had some surgeries, like 90% of Hollywood\Entertainers but the tabloids make out I'm in there every week getting another quarter inch of my nose or I've had 5 face lifts... I'm only 34 for Pete's sake!?" | |
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Oh yeah whoever convinced him he should have ever worn that hairstyle should be shot. He even wore it at the worst times, like this interview was supposed to show him candidly and his wearing the most feminine and high maintainence hair cut he's ever had. Those super thick dead straight wigs he started wearing in the 00's were better than that... "kink"y shit. | |
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SoulAlive said: Superstition said: Because its redundant. I always hoped that Michael would just say "Yeah,I had plastic surgery....alot of it,in fact.It's what I wanted to do and I did it.It's my life....next question,please". No need to lie about it,just be honest and have a "Fuck you" attitude about it.wasnt it truly just "two"- his nose and chin??- now mind you his nose had to be redone several times but.... 1. nose 2. chin only "two" things plaatic surgery changed- I think people think he had cheeks, etc- but that's just not true LOVE HARD. | |
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Evvy said: SoulAlive said: I always hoped that Michael would just say "Yeah,I had plastic surgery....alot of it,in fact.It's what I wanted to do and I did it.It's my life....next question,please". No need to lie about it,just be honest and have a "Fuck you" attitude about it.wasnt it truly just "two"- his nose and chin??- now mind you his nose had to be redone several times but.... 1. nose 2. chin only "two" things plaatic surgery changed- I think people think he had cheeks, etc- but that's just not true Um... no. He had his jawline widened in '89, an eye brow lift around Thriller, his lower lip thinned before Bad came out... that's all I can think of now. He probably didn't have anything done to his cheeks but they did change in appearance when his lost all his facial fat before Bad came out, from dieting probably. I'm inclined to believe that eyeliner was a tattoo but no way to be sure... | |
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Oprah admitted that she was ticked off when he said "Read my book "Moonwalker",it's all in there" | |
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rainman1985 said: Evvy said: wasnt it truly just "two"- his nose and chin??- now mind you his nose had to be redone several times but.... 1. nose 2. chin only "two" things plaatic surgery changed- I think people think he had cheeks, etc- but that's just not true Um... no. He had his jawline widened in '89, an eye brow lift around Thriller, his lower lip thinned before Bad came out... that's all I can think of now. He probably didn't have anything done to his cheeks but they did change in appearance when his lost all his facial fat before Bad came out, from dieting probably. I'm inclined to believe that eyeliner was a tattoo but no way to be sure... you are really reaching- lip thinned?- thats a damn lie- eyebrowlift? you mean arched?? puleeaze...- do you know how different i look whwn my brows are arched differently? his lips during the trial pics look the same as his 9 yr old lips... LOVE HARD. | |
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RnBAmbassador said: daPrettyman said: That show was an utter waste of time.
Do any of you remember when the 2nd round of Child Molestation charges were dropped from MJ's record, Oprah did a 2 part show on how she was "disgusted" and was defending the child? Now, after he dies, she is praising how innocent and sweet he really was. I love O, but this show was tacky. ***** Never heard her say he was innocent yesterday. The vast majority of Americans feel as though he did it, but just paid several away, some before there were civil or criminal charges; one out of court settlement, and one acquittal. Nevertheless - it is what it is. The great entertainer, the non-biological father, the holder of the biggest selling album world wide (THRILLER) and the only person I am aware that went from Black to White literally and beyond is now gone, may he R.I.P. and may Janet, Jermaine, LaToya, Tito, Randy and Joe shut up and move on. In the Orca interview he told her he can count his plastic surgeries on two fingers, remember? So much for credibility. I will say this, his blood related family and the three little White kids (that are not his) have more ($$$$) now, and will make more after probabte, than they ever have had in life. Janet, discalimer, although there has been a spike in her catalog as well. I haven't read Moonwalker in a while, but I think he said he only had 2 surgerys in there also. Then again, at the time of that interview, he still looked "normal"....just lighter. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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RnBAmbassador said: Never heard her say he was innocent yesterday. The vast majority of Americans feel as though he did it, but just paid several away, some before there were civil or criminal charges; one out of court settlement, and one acquittal.
Nevertheless - it is what it is. The great entertainer, the non-biological father, the holder of the biggest selling album world wide (THRILLER) and the only person I am aware that went from Black to White literally and beyond is now gone, may he R.I.P. and may Janet, Jermaine, LaToya, Tito, Randy and Joe shut up and move on. In the Orca interview he told her he can count his plastic surgeries on two fingers, remember? So much for credibility. I will say this, his blood related family and the three little White kids (that are not his) have more ($$$$) now, and will make more after probabte, than they ever have had in life. Janet, discalimer, although there has been a spike in her catalog as well.  | |
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Evvy said: rainman1985 said: Um... no. He had his jawline widened in '89, an eye brow lift around Thriller, his lower lip thinned before Bad came out... that's all I can think of now. He probably didn't have anything done to his cheeks but they did change in appearance when his lost all his facial fat before Bad came out, from dieting probably. I'm inclined to believe that eyeliner was a tattoo but no way to be sure... you are really reaching- lip thinned?- thats a damn lie- eyebrowlift? you mean arched?? puleeaze...- do you know how different i look whwn my brows are arched differently? his lips during the trial pics look the same as his 9 yr old lips... As someone who considered getting cosmetic surgery for awhile and researched facial aethstetics a great deal I feel qualified to say. You don't seem to know what I mean when I say brow-lift. If you can't recognize the jaw widening or his lower lip getting smaller from Thriller to Bad then you need your eyes checked... By the time Invincible came out his eyes and brows looked completely unatural, they were half way up his forehead. Most people aren't in tune to facial aesthetics, they don't know what actually makes a person 'good' or 'bad'looking and if someone they knew had a nose job or something they'd notice "something was different" but they wouldn't know what. That's why it's suggested to change your hair style when you have a cosmetic alteration. No need to get defensive, I'm a huge MJ fan but trust me he was the one who was reaching when he told Oprah he'd only had 2 surgeries. | |
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SoulAlive said: Oprah admitted that she was ticked off when he said "Read my book "Moonwalker",it's all in there"
Yet she has the right to ask him if he's a virgin and he's supposed to answer her. | |
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StillDirrty said: SoulAlive said: Oprah admitted that she was ticked off when he said "Read my book "Moonwalker",it's all in there"
Yet she has the right to ask him if he's a virgin and he's supposed to answer her. She's got no class and always asks tabloid-esque questions... Someone should ask Oprah if aside from rape\abuse and her dyke gal-pal kissing her arse, is she a virgin? I think she comes across more asexual than Michael. Man I hate that self-righteous bitch. I remember seeing her and Gayle discussing past guests one time. Madonna was talking about how it's hard to do a truly selfless act (ie charity or something) and Gayle says "I saw your face and knew you were thinking 'No I don't know what you mean'". Nobody seems to realize every charitable thing Oprah's ever done has been on camera and worked as a promotional tool for her show and public persona. Fat bitch... all her money, personal trainers etc and she still yoyo's yet brags about it like she's Miss Universe or something. I used to think she'd be the first female President but that seems unlikely now. Grrrrr. Please throw every Oprah joke and insult you can onto this thread... she deserves it. [Edited 9/18/09 10:07am] | |
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It is sad that all these media people are interested in is did he have surgery? Does he sleep with women?, who do his children belong to?
What about Michale Jackson the person? I think they missed out on some great opportunities. As for the show, it stank to no end. ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^
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StillDirrty said: SoulAlive said: Oprah admitted that she was ticked off when he said "Read my book "Moonwalker",it's all in there"
Yet she has the right to ask him if he's a virgin and he's supposed to answer her. Yeah,that question was the low point of the interview.Very tasteless  She really didn't need to go there. | |
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rainman1985 said: Evvy said: you are really reaching- lip thinned?- thats a damn lie- eyebrowlift? you mean arched?? puleeaze...- do you know how different i look whwn my brows are arched differently? his lips during the trial pics look the same as his 9 yr old lips... As someone who considered getting cosmetic surgery for awhile and researched facial aethstetics a great deal I feel qualified to say. You don't seem to know what I mean when I say brow-lift. If you can't recognize the jaw widening or his lower lip getting smaller from Thriller to Bad then you need your eyes checked... By the time Invincible came out his eyes and brows looked completely unatural, they were half way up his forehead. Most people aren't in tune to facial aesthetics, they don't know what actually makes a person 'good' or 'bad'looking and if someone they knew had a nose job or something they'd notice "something was different" but they wouldn't know what. That's why it's suggested to change your hair style when you have a cosmetic alteration. No need to get defensive, I'm a huge MJ fan but trust me he was the one who was reaching when he told Oprah he'd only had 2 surgeries. not to take anything away from you- but i've looked at pics of mike in every era- maybe he was having surgery to go back and forth with his looks LOVE HARD. | |
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Evvy said: rainman1985 said: As someone who considered getting cosmetic surgery for awhile and researched facial aethstetics a great deal I feel qualified to say. You don't seem to know what I mean when I say brow-lift. If you can't recognize the jaw widening or his lower lip getting smaller from Thriller to Bad then you need your eyes checked... By the time Invincible came out his eyes and brows looked completely unatural, they were half way up his forehead. Most people aren't in tune to facial aesthetics, they don't know what actually makes a person 'good' or 'bad'looking and if someone they knew had a nose job or something they'd notice "something was different" but they wouldn't know what. That's why it's suggested to change your hair style when you have a cosmetic alteration. No need to get defensive, I'm a huge MJ fan but trust me he was the one who was reaching when he told Oprah he'd only had 2 surgeries. not to take anything away from you- but i've looked at pics of mike in every era- maybe he was having surgery to go back and forth with his looks Evvy, wake dat ass up!    I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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Evvy said: rainman1985 said: As someone who considered getting cosmetic surgery for awhile and researched facial aethstetics a great deal I feel qualified to say. You don't seem to know what I mean when I say brow-lift. If you can't recognize the jaw widening or his lower lip getting smaller from Thriller to Bad then you need your eyes checked... By the time Invincible came out his eyes and brows looked completely unatural, they were half way up his forehead. Most people aren't in tune to facial aesthetics, they don't know what actually makes a person 'good' or 'bad'looking and if someone they knew had a nose job or something they'd notice "something was different" but they wouldn't know what. That's why it's suggested to change your hair style when you have a cosmetic alteration. No need to get defensive, I'm a huge MJ fan but trust me he was the one who was reaching when he told Oprah he'd only had 2 surgeries. not to take anything away from you- but i've looked at pics of mike in every era- maybe he was having surgery to go back and forth with his looks You can tell the difference from thriller to bad | |
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rainman1985 said: StillDirrty said: Yet she has the right to ask him if he's a virgin and he's supposed to answer her. She's got no class and always asks tabloid-esque questions... Someone should ask Oprah if aside from rape\abuse and her dyke gal-pal kissing her arse, is she a virgin? I think she comes across more asexual than Michael. Man I hate that self-righteous bitch. I remember seeing her and Gayle discussing past guests one time. Madonna was talking about how it's hard to do a truly selfless act (ie charity or something) and Gayle says "I saw your face and knew you were thinking 'No I don't know what you mean'". Nobody seems to realize every charitable thing Oprah's ever done has been on camera and worked as a promotional tool for her show and public persona. Fat bitch... all her money, personal trainers etc and she still yoyo's yet brags about it like she's Miss Universe or something. I used to think she'd be the first female President but that seems unlikely now. Grrrrr. Please throw every Oprah joke and insult you can onto this thread... she deserves it. You're problematic For your info she's been candid about her promiscuous teen years post-abuse. & the only reason she asked Mike if he was a virgin is b/c he obviously wasn't the average guy & (as far as the public could see) conducted himself in weird ways when it came to women. Embarrassing question, yes, but valid imo. If dude wasn't so strange she wouldn't have asked  I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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sosgemini said: Anyone else watch this? Is this worthy of it's own thread? Apologies if its not but:
Damn that show was horrid. It wasn't a tribute to MJ it was a tribute to Oprah as an interviewer. She talked about everything dealing with the interview but MJ himself. Did anyone else notice how hard Oprah was working to not talk about MJ? I didn't watch ~ I usually don't watch Miss big O | |
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sag10 said: It is sad that all these media people are interested in is did he have surgery? Does he sleep with women?, who do his children belong to?
What about Michale Jackson the person? I think they missed out on some great opportunities. As for the show, it stank to no end.  Exactly
the person, the human ... | |
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Mach said: sag10 said: It is sad that all these media people are interested in is did he have surgery? Does he sleep with women?, who do his children belong to?
What about Michale Jackson the person? I think they missed out on some great opportunities. As for the show, it stank to no end. Exactly
the person, the human ... Who the fuck is MICHALE??? j/k  I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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CalhounSq said: Mach said: Exactly
the person, the human ... Who the fuck is MICHALE??? j/k
Who the Hell is Miss thang Big ole O ?  | |
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really the only thing that got me excited during the tribute show was the clip she had of Mike doing Human Nature for This Is It. 12/05/2011 
P*$$y so bad, if u throw it into da air, it would turn into sunshine!!!  | |
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matthewgrant said: really the only thing that got me excited during the tribute show was the clip she had of Mike doing Human Nature for This Is It.
Exactly, other than that the show was all about her, it shouldn't be called tribute. MICHAEL JACKSON
R.I.P مايكل جاكسون للأبد 1958 | |
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why do mj fans want his family to shut up now that he's dead? when he was on trial they were right there by his side, if his family wouldnt have shown up fans would be screaming about them not supporting him. i think janet is smart to move forward with her music, she got caught up in the jackson backlash when america hated everything associated with mj so now that people are having this jacksons love affair i think they should do what they do. only jacksons that i have a problem with is joe, i dont like how he comes across, also jermaine and latoya seem shady to me. | |
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lowkey said: why do mj fans want his family to shut up now that he's dead? when he was on trial they were right there by his side, if his family wouldnt have shown up fans would be screaming about them not supporting him. i think janet is smart to move forward with her music, she got caught up in the jackson backlash when america hated everything associated with mj so now that people are having this jacksons love affair i think they should do what they do. only jacksons that i have a problem with is joe, i dont like how he comes across, also jermaine and latoya seem shady to me.
I don't have no problem with his family honestly the only jackson I want to see is janet . Joe and Jermaine need to go back in their house and stay there they got other motives you can tell. | |
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lowkey said: why do mj fans want his family to shut up now that he's dead? when he was on trial they were right there by his side, if his family wouldnt have shown up fans would be screaming about them not supporting him. i think janet is smart to move forward with her music, she got caught up in the jackson backlash when america hated everything associated with mj so now that people are having this jacksons love affair i think they should do what they do. only jacksons that i have a problem with is joe, i dont like how he comes across, also jermaine and latoya seem shady to me.
Well, that's the thing. Most have a problem with just Jermaine and Latoya and I don't think it's only his fans that feel that way. If my brother decided to air our dirty laundry out in public, I would certainly have a problem with them. "Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth" | |
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shorttrini said: lowkey said: why do mj fans want his family to shut up now that he's dead? when he was on trial they were right there by his side, if his family wouldnt have shown up fans would be screaming about them not supporting him. i think janet is smart to move forward with her music, she got caught up in the jackson backlash when america hated everything associated with mj so now that people are having this jacksons love affair i think they should do what they do. only jacksons that i have a problem with is joe, i dont like how he comes across, also jermaine and latoya seem shady to me.
Well, that's the thing. Most have a problem with just Jermaine and Latoya and I don't think it's only his fans that feel that way. If my brother decided to air our dirty laundry out in public, I would certainly have a problem with them. right, those 2 did him dirty when he was alive but i see a few people making negative comments about janet, i dont see nothing wrong with her releasing new music or whatever.she didnt rush out and make some tribute song right after he died, she waited until he was buried before she made any comments and it was very fitting for her to perform on mtv and perform the song they did together, she aint dress up like him and sing his songs.the media has been really hard on janet in recent years so if they are cutitn her some slack now due to her brother passing i dont see why she shouldnt move forward with her career. | |
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CalhounSq said: Evvy said: not to take anything away from you- but i've looked at pics of mike in every era- maybe he was having surgery to go back and forth with his looks Evvy, wake dat ass up! I swear fo Gd he look like '99 in '03 and '03 in '08- i mean wth???LOVE HARD. | |
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