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Reply #240 posted 09/16/09 11:41am

GirlBrother

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Pretentious bong music for pot-head students since 1970-something.



I swear that if I ever hear any Pink Floyd played in my presence, I walk away. Their music makes me feel physically sick.
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Reply #241 posted 09/16/09 12:59pm

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LightOfArt said:

SUPRMAN said:

LondonStyle said:
The 'borrowed' bassline of Billie Jean?


where is it ''borrowed'' from? confuse


Steely Dan's 'Do It Again'
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Reply #242 posted 09/16/09 1:18pm

LightOfArt

SUPRMAN said:

LightOfArt said:



where is it ''borrowed'' from? confuse


Steely Dan's 'Do It Again'


hmm, the percussions on the steely record does remind me of BJ's bass line nod
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Reply #243 posted 09/16/09 1:50pm

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GirlBrother said:

Pretentious bong music for pot-head students since 1970-something.



I swear that if I ever hear any Pink Floyd played in my presence, I walk away. Their music makes me feel physically sick.


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Reply #244 posted 09/16/09 2:13pm

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LightOfArt said:

SUPRMAN said:



Steely Dan's 'Do It Again'


hmm, the percussions on the steely record does remind me of BJ's bass line nod


MJ told Darryl Hall that he had copped the bassline from Hall and Oates I Can't Go For That



hmmm
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Reply #245 posted 09/16/09 2:20pm

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GirlBrother said:

Pretentious bong music for pot-head students since 1970-something.



I swear that if I ever hear any Pink Floyd played in my presence, I walk away. Their music makes me feel physically sick.


Agreed. The whole Pink Floyd thing escapes me completely and ironically I have this album. It spent 20 years on the charts or something, there must be something there, right?? I tried it. Maybe even twice. Just thoroughly underwhelmed and confuse by it's status.
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Reply #246 posted 09/16/09 2:21pm

LightOfArt

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LightOfArt said:



hmm, the percussions on the steely record does remind me of BJ's bass line nod


MJ told Darryl Hall that he had copped the bassline from Hall and Oates I Can't Go For That



hmmm


Darrly must have been on acid lol
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Reply #247 posted 09/16/09 2:22pm

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GirlBrother said:

Pretentious bong music for pot-head students since 1970-something.



I swear that if I ever hear any Pink Floyd played in my presence, I walk away. Their music makes me feel physically sick.



It's actually a good album (with one waste of space song near the beginning) but you are right, it is one of the most overrated albums of all time.
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Reply #248 posted 09/16/09 2:27pm

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mynameisnotsusan said:

LightOfArt said:



hmm, the percussions on the steely record does remind me of BJ's bass line nod


MJ told Darryl Hall that he had copped the bassline from Hall and Oates I Can't Go For That



hmmm


that's closer than the bass line on Do It Again. But Billie Jean is a really simple bass line. I am sure it appears in dozens of songs.
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Reply #249 posted 09/16/09 2:32pm

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...and this is the problem with it, it sounds too perfect...almost planned. Unlike, "OTW", "Thriller", sounds processed and too clean. There is no soul in that album. This is where all of the hype and promotion came it. I also think that how much one like's those two albums, depends on when you were born. Those who were around for "OTW's" debut, love that album, more than "Thriller".

U don't consider "Lady In my Life" a soul song?


It may touch the soul but that does not mean that it is soulful. The thing with "Thriller" is that it had to have one or two songs to make it marketable to all demographics. But, I would STILL label it a "pop" album, more than an R&B album. "Off The Wall", on the other hand, is a straight up R&B album.
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Reply #250 posted 09/16/09 2:41pm

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It's so refreshing to see a thread that people can actually discuss without fighting or turning to random bullshit.

It seems to me there are two camps on the issue, those that rate the music and those that rate the impact or popularity.

Not to say either is right, but along those lines Thriller is both overrated and not overrated. The music is hit and miss, but the album is probably the best known piece of pop music in the world.

Regardless, "The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill" is simply horrible in all respects. In recent memory, that would be my choice for both aspects; music and impact.


Regarding the Lauryn, I would say this. When she first came on the scene, she was basically a rapper. It was not until she sang bits and pieces of songs, that people began to take notice that this girl could sing as well. This is where I think the trouble started. People were like, "You need to release an entire cd of you singing. When she did, and it got the response it did, she could not handle it. After that, some may have started to think, "Maybe this ISN'T as great as people thought. Hype does allot for an artist and their material. For me, if the less hype that an album has behind it, the better it is. "Off The Wall did not have as much of the hype as "Thriller" did. This is why I think it all of the songs on it can be played now, 26 years later. If it weren't for MJ's passing I don't think one could say the same for "Thriller".
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Reply #251 posted 09/16/09 2:49pm

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Moonbeam said:

GirlBrother said:

Pretentious bong music for pot-head students since 1970-something.



I swear that if I ever hear any Pink Floyd played in my presence, I walk away. Their music makes me feel physically sick.


highfive


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Incidentally, I love The Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill. The only bit that annoys me is during one of the segues and "the teacher" says, 'There ain't no song called "Love"'... I always feel like shouting, 'What about the John Lennon song?'... But maybe that's just me. lol

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Reply #252 posted 09/16/09 3:17pm

LightOfArt

shorttrini said:

daPrettyman said:


U don't consider "Lady In my Life" a soul song?


It may touch the soul but that does not mean that it is soulful. The thing with "Thriller" is that it had to have one or two songs to make it marketable to all demographics. But, I would STILL label it a "pop" album, more than an R&B album. "Off The Wall", on the other hand, is a straight up R&B album.


then what makes a song soulful? lol
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Reply #253 posted 09/16/09 6:10pm

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My wife suggested this one;


Alanis' "Jagged Little Pill"
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Reply #254 posted 09/16/09 6:45pm

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shorttrini said:

Mars23 said:

Regardless, "The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill" is simply horrible in all respects. In recent memory, that would be my choice for both aspects; music and impact.


Regarding the Lauryn, I would say this. When she first came on the scene, she was basically a rapper. It was not until she sang bits and pieces of songs, that people began to take notice that this girl could sing as well.

confuse When she first came on the scene, she was singing in Sister Act 2. It wasn't until the first Fugees album that we got to hear her rap.
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Reply #255 posted 09/16/09 7:17pm

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I was thinking the same thing

Dirty Mind is a classic and essential for any prince collection


To me the early Prince records were much more influential than any one artist at that time. He had a distinct sound that was being flagrantly emulated all over the music spectrum and when you heard it, you knew who it was or "who" they were copying.

MJ was producing very polished well made music, but to me it didn't sound too different from most everything on the radio at the time, maybe that's why it was so popular, because it was familiar, comfortable and accessible,
The Hall & Oats youtube posted previously, says a lot.
Dirty Mind was anything but familiar, comfortable and accessible.

I agree with Cinnie, you cant overate music that completely changed the game.

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Reply #256 posted 09/16/09 7:34pm

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AlexdeParis said:

shorttrini said:



Regarding the Lauryn, I would say this. When she first came on the scene, she was basically a rapper. It was not until she sang bits and pieces of songs, that people began to take notice that this girl could sing as well.

confuse When she first came on the scene, she was singing in Sister Act 2. It wasn't until the first Fugees album that we got to hear her rap.


True, but she was doing more rapping than singing...
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Reply #257 posted 09/16/09 8:02pm

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shorttrini said:

daPrettyman said:


U don't consider "Lady In my Life" a soul song?


It may touch the soul but that does not mean that it is soulful. The thing with "Thriller" is that it had to have one or two songs to make it marketable to all demographics. But, I would STILL label it a "pop" album, more than an R&B album. "Off The Wall", on the other hand, is a straight up R&B album.

I get ur point about Thriller, but do you honestly think OTW is "straight up" r&b? To me, OTW is the transitional disco/dance/r&b album. Think about it, songs like "Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough", "Workin' Day and Night", "Rock With You", "Get On The Floor", and "Burn This Disco Out". were more dance/disco songs with a funky bass and beat. Whereas, "She's Out of My Life", and "Girlfriend" are straight up pop. "I Can't Help It" is a "straight up" r&b track.
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Reply #258 posted 09/16/09 8:09pm

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AlexdeParis said:

shorttrini said:



Regarding the Lauryn, I would say this. When she first came on the scene, she was basically a rapper. It was not until she sang bits and pieces of songs, that people began to take notice that this girl could sing as well.

confuse When she first came on the scene, she was singing in Sister Act 2. It wasn't until the first Fugees album that we got to hear her rap.

Don't forget the acting gig on the soap opera. Not to mention her Showtime At the Apollo performances.

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Reply #259 posted 09/16/09 9:01pm

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thriller and death magnetic weren't worth the hype. highly overrated albums.

let us enjoy ourselves, this rhythm is ill. i want to sit on your penis
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Reply #260 posted 09/16/09 11:59pm

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mynameisnotsusan said:

GirlBrother said:

Pretentious bong music for pot-head students since 1970-something.



I swear that if I ever hear any Pink Floyd played in my presence, I walk away. Their music makes me feel physically sick.


Agreed. The whole Pink Floyd thing escapes me completely and ironically I have this album. It spent 20 years on the charts or something, there must be something there, right?? I tried it. Maybe even twice. Just thoroughly underwhelmed and confuse by it's status.



One of my favorite albums ever. I don't think it's possible to overrate this album.
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Reply #261 posted 09/17/09 12:08am

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With subjective subjects like these no one wins or loses. Everyone likes what they like and some don't approve if a certain album is actually succesful and sells or has sold a lot of copies lol
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Reply #262 posted 09/17/09 5:00am

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daPrettyman said:

AlexdeParis said:


confuse When she first came on the scene, she was singing in Sister Act 2. It wasn't until the first Fugees album that we got to hear her rap.

Don't forget the acting gig on the soap opera. Not to mention her Showtime At the Apollo performances.



You call her appearance on The Appollo, singing? If I recall, she heard mostly boo's. She had not come into her own yet.
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Reply #263 posted 09/17/09 6:16am

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My wife suggested this one;


Alanis' "Jagged Little Pill"



radio so played the shit out of this record in the 90s, I can't bear to hear a note of it today. I can honestly say I HATE it
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Reply #264 posted 09/17/09 8:01am

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shorttrini said:

daPrettyman said:


Don't forget the acting gig on the soap opera. Not to mention her Showtime At the Apollo performances.



You call her appearance on The Appollo, singing? If I recall, she heard mostly boo's. She had not come into her own yet.

There were boos in the beginning, then they got into her. It wasn't "professional", but she can honestly say she's an "Apollo Legend".
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Reply #265 posted 09/17/09 3:39pm

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Like I said, this was Lauryn's big break:

"Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis
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Reply #266 posted 09/17/09 7:34pm

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GirlBrother said:

Pretentious bong music for pot-head students since 1970-something.



I swear that if I ever hear any Pink Floyd played in my presence, I walk away. Their music makes me feel physically sick.

lol
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Reply #267 posted 09/21/09 4:21pm

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SoulAlive said:

Am I the only one who likes "The Girl Is Mine" (from Thriller) and "Girlfriend" (from Off The Wall)? It seems that these two songs are always being dissed on this site mad lol

I love Girlfriend

I prefer the demo version of The Girl Is Mine over the released version
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Reply #268 posted 09/21/09 7:49pm

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ViintageJunkiie said:

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Control and Rhythmn Nation were once in a lifetime albums.
Janet was a step back but not a total wash. She rebounded
greatly with Velvet Rope.


I agree! I love the Control and Rhythm Nation albums. The "janet." album was horrible to me, well not horrible, but I could have done without it with the exceptions of "If", "Thats The Way Love Goes", "You Want This", "Again" and "Any time, any place". Without those songs, I wouldn't even give that album a second listen. Velvet Rope is awesome too, but can't hold a candle to Rhythm Nation.


Truthfully i don't even listen to that cd. I have a close friend
who says it just collects dust in her collection as well. I dig That's the
Way Love Goes, What i do, and Funky big band most.
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Reply #269 posted 09/21/09 7:52pm

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SoulAlive said:

PPKING said:



While I love this album,I think '1999' is superior.

Similarly,I think 'Off The Wall' is better than 'Thriller'.

Sometimes,an artist's "breakthrough album" isn't necessarily their best work.


Most definitely. I also like Controversy and Dirty Mind better too but
1999 is his best imo.
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