Also, does anyone else thing 'Celebration' sounds like a combination of two Cyndi Lauper Songs from her "Bring ya to the Brink" album?
It sounds like a marriage of "Into Nightlife" and "Echo" | |
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Imago said: Also, does anyone else thing 'Celebration' sounds like a combination of two Cyndi Lauper Songs from her "Bring ya to the Brink" album?
It sounds like a marriage of "Into Nightlife" and "Echo" god, i wish | |
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errant said: they think it more important to include the Love fucking Profusion video (a god damn make-up commercial) over Oh Father and Bad Girl, two of her most essential videos?
i hate this whole fucking affair from the ground up. I know. The only hope is that "Oh Father" and "Bad Girl" are secret Easter Eggs. Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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Celebration Promo BoxSet---I gotta have this!!!! It'll probably be a fortune on ebay.
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SoulAlive said: Celebration Promo BoxSet---I gotta have this!!!! It'll probably be a fortune on ebay.
I can put all of my misery and negativity aside and say that looks AMAZING!!!! | |
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Imago said: OK, I've listened to it a few times now.
Is this thing REALLY remastered? I can tell that it sounds improved on certain tracks like Justify My Love and Erotica. Also I can tell on 'Burning Up' but I prefer the version from the original album--though I don't hate this version. It's not half bad, but the song sequence is really really odd to me. I recently bought the download version in Mp3 format (256 kbs) which is good enough quality to judge if there are improvements in the sound quality, and I have to agree with you. The whole thing sounds like the remaster approach was a bit lazy, almost as if someone just used ONE or two presets in Pro-tools for the whole thing (artifical bass-boost and compressor/maximiser). That being said, since Madonna's stuff is never more than 26 years old there's not as great room for improvement as for the Beatles stuff. She was recording digitally already on the Like A Virgin album, which means that the cold digital sound from that era is more because of the primitive digital recording equipment rather than a crappy CD-transfer. They could have been more careful though about applying tasteful tweaking (EQ, limiting) for each track rather than just picking a preset, which is what it sounds like to me. And most of the edits on the tracks sound out of place.... the edit on "Express Yourself" is especially clumsy. Instead of editing the stuff themselves, they should have searched for the proper edits/mixes from each era and spent some more time on adjusting the sound. And one more thing: Why are they using Q-sound mixes for some of the songs? The Q-sound mixes (as used on "The Immaculate Collection") already sound artificial enough without the added 2009 "remastering". | |
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Imago said: OK, I've listened to it a few times now.
Is this thing REALLY remastered? I can tell that it sounds improved on certain tracks like Justify My Love and Erotica. Also I can tell on 'Burning Up' but I prefer the version from the original album--though I don't hate this version. It's not half bad, but the song sequence is really really odd to me. One reviewer described the sequencing as being like a wild shopping spree, hehe. The removal of some form of chronology from it baffles me, as listening chronologically helps you understand her career trajectory better. My favourite sequencing was the fake one that had each disc chornological, disc one with the main hits, disc two with the secondary hits. | |
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CrozzaUK said: SoulAlive said: Celebration Promo BoxSet---I gotta have this!!!! It'll probably be a fortune on ebay.
I can put all of my misery and negativity aside and say that looks AMAZING!!!! It looks incredible,huh? Warners should release this as a limited edition set! It would make alot of sense.Most of us diehards are gonna buy the 2-CD set and the DVD,so why not give us a special treat? Both items placed in a nicely packaged box set. But,this is Warners we're talking about here Can't expect too much from them. | |
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CrozzaUK said: Imago said: OK, I've listened to it a few times now.
Is this thing REALLY remastered? I can tell that it sounds improved on certain tracks like Justify My Love and Erotica. Also I can tell on 'Burning Up' but I prefer the version from the original album--though I don't hate this version. It's not half bad, but the song sequence is really really odd to me. One reviewer described the sequencing as being like a wild shopping spree, hehe. The removal of some form of chronology from it baffles me, as listening chronologically helps you understand her career trajectory better. My favourite sequencing was the fake one that had each disc chornological, disc one with the main hits, disc two with the secondary hits. Yeah,on greatest hits sets,I prefer that the songs be in chrological order.That way,you get a real sense of the artists' growth and evolution,from one album to the next.In Madonna's case,it would have made sense to present her music this way,since she has gone through so many different re-inventions throughout her career. | |
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VinnyM27 said: SoulAlive said: Gonna pick this up,along with the CDs,on Tuesday morning on the way to work.Fortunately,there's a Best Buy and a Target right down the street from my job,lol. Both of those and Meijer are basically across the street from where my new job. Considering I have a lot to get ready, I still think I'll wait until Thursday. I wonder what the prices are going to be? So far it looks like the lowest price for the Double CD is $16.99 (not bad but not great) and $19.99 for the DVD. Both on Amazon. I'm hoping at least one store matches or beats those prices. We'll have to check the prices in the Sunday newspaper.I'm betting that Wal-Mart and Target will have it for the cheapest price.Those Amazon prices are great. | |
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SoulAlive said: CrozzaUK said: I can put all of my misery and negativity aside and say that looks AMAZING!!!! It looks incredible,huh? Warners should release this as a limited edition set! It would make alot of sense.Most of us diehards are gonna buy the 2-CD set and the DVD,so why not give us a special treat? Both items placed in a nicely packaged box set. But,this is Warners we're talking about here Can't expect too much from them. It's insane that for years they released awful deluxe boxed sets of every album and than they make something like this for...promo? So how gets that? Guy Oseary? | |
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VinnyM27 said: SoulAlive said: It looks incredible,huh? Warners should release this as a limited edition set! It would make alot of sense.Most of us diehards are gonna buy the 2-CD set and the DVD,so why not give us a special treat? Both items placed in a nicely packaged box set. But,this is Warners we're talking about here Can't expect too much from them. It's insane that for years they released awful deluxe boxed sets of every album and than they make something like this for...promo? So who gets that? Guy Oseary? This is a promo set that was sent to journalists in Hong Kong,of all places | |
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ah. that promo box reminds me of my beloved "Royal Box" | |
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SoulAlive said: VinnyM27 said: It's insane that for years they released awful deluxe boxed sets of every album and than they make something like this for...promo? So who gets that? Guy Oseary? This is a promo set that was sent to journalists in Hong Kong,of all places WB....always doing the wrong things! I mean, the promo for this is nothing. It seems like they are ONLY selling it the fans. They're might be a commercial or two on daytime shows like Oprah but that will be the extent. I realize that Madonna's lack of participation makes sense, but what is with WB? They've done nothing right! Nothing! | |
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SoulAlive said: Celebration Promo BoxSet---I gotta have this!!!! It'll probably be a fortune on ebay.
so i have a choice here.... buy this along with all the other releases or i can eat. guess which one i'll choose? LOVE ♪♫♪♫ ♣¤═══¤۩۞۩ஜ۩ஜ۩۞۩¤═══¤♣ | |
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CHIC0 said: SoulAlive said: Celebration Promo BoxSet---I gotta have this!!!! It'll probably be a fortune on ebay.
so i have a choice here.... buy this along with all the other releases or i can eat. guess which one i'll choose? Seems like a very rare promo. You might have to worry about the mortage and rent, too! | |
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VinnyM27 said: CHIC0 said: so i have a choice here.... buy this along with all the other releases or i can eat. guess which one i'll choose? Seems like a very rare promo. You might have to worry about the mortage and rent, too! can i have a loan Vinny? LOVE ♪♫♪♫ ♣¤═══¤۩۞۩ஜ۩ஜ۩۞۩¤═══¤♣ | |
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This is interesting... It's a list of errors posted by a member of a Madonna forum, and currently circulating around the net...
Here is what is included on Celebration.
There are 16 previously released songs featured in their full-length, original album versions. * BURNING UP * HOLIDAY * MATERIAL GIRL * INTO THE GROOVE * LIVE TO TELL * PAPA DON'T PREACH * LA ISLA BONITA * WHO'S THAT GIRL * LIKE A PRAYER * JUSTIFY MY LOVE * TAKE A BOW * FROZEN * BEAUTIFUL STRANGER * MUSIC - MASTERING ERROR: multiple digital pops and clicks that are not part of the original recording can be heard throughout this song. * DIE ANOTHER DAY - MASTERING ERROR: Track fades up late due to the incorrectly placed track index on the American Life album. This is ridiculous. The unaffected album version appears on both the US Promo CD single and the Die Another Day film soundtrack, all Warner Bros. releases. * HOLLYWOOD - MASTERING ERROR: Track starts abruptly and end of "American Life"'s fade out is audible. Of these, ten were released as singles in versions that differ from these LP mixes. I would have much preferred the inclusion of the difficult to obtain single mixes, but I'm in therapy and have mostly moved on. Mostly. Fortunately, five tracks do appear in their official single versions. * SECRET (Edit) * RAY OF LIGHT (Edit) * SORRY (Single Edit) * 4 MINUTES (Edit) * MILES AWAY (Radio Edit) ...and one more is a rarity from a US promo CD: * HUNG UP ([Unblended] Album Version) Next up, there are five remixes lifted directly from The Immaculate Collection. * BORDERLINE (1990) (Q Sound Mix) * LIKE A VIRGIN (1990) (Q Sound Mix) * CRAZY FOR YOU (1990) (Q Sound Mix) * OPEN YOUR HEART (1990) (Q Sound Mix) * VOGUE (1990) (Q Sound Mix) And now we pause to ask ourselves why. The remaining nine tracks are unique to the collection. The first two are new recordings. * CELEBRATION * REVOLVER One appears to be a from-the-vault rarity, likely included by mistake. * LUCKY STAR - ALTERNATIVE Q SOUND MIX * Virtually identical to the version heard on The Immaculate Collection, though there is noticeably more reverb on the "ee-yeah"'s at the foot of each chorus. The music leading into the first verse is different (on TIC is was edited to match the original 7" version, on here it is not.) The most obvious difference is right at the fade, instead of the chorus it edits to a set of adlibs heard on longer versions of the song, but not heard on the Q Sound version. Odd, but inoffensive as it seems to be a genuine unreleased variation. As for the rest, quality control has reached an all time low: * EVERYBODY - FAKE EDIT * This uses the full length, original 12" version as its starting point (as did the official 7" single version), but is structured differently. While the overall idea for this edit wasn't horrendous, whoever was placed in charge of actually executing the edits needs to be tortured. Slowly... painfully. * DRESS YOU UP - FUCKED UP INTRO * What the hell happened here? This isn't a mix variation so much as a mastering error... the album version started late with severe tape pinch/phasing issues right at the top. Of the four beats on the intro, all but the fourth are missing. * EXPRESS YOURSELF - FAKE FUCKING ****. * The most offensive. In a failed attempt to kindofsortof recreate the video version, they have taken the complete intro straight off of the Local Mix, "zipper" included. The actual, official video version starts at the percussion and is specially mixed to have echo on the line "Do you believe in love..." which is dry on the Local Mix and therefore not present here. This new monstrosity then incorrectly cuts to the 7" Remix/Edit version and then again where they have BUTCHERED the song right at the bridge. A bad edit jumps the track from the end of the chorus to the repeat of the bridge which kills the structure of the track. This version is unlistenable. * CHERISH - FAKE EDIT * The original album version cut to the length of the super-short Immaculate Collection version. AMATEUR doesn't begin to describe how bad these edits have been executed. Poor edits result in creating entirely new lyrics! How about this chestnut... "Can't get away, I won't let to" ?! They render all prior complaints about bad edits on Madonna's releases void. Again, unlistenable. In the cases of "Express Yourself" and "Cherish," why not just use the fucking Q Sound remixes?! They're the exact same length as the fake edits and it's not like there aren't 6 others from that release present here. * EROTICA - FAKE Radio Edit * The edit points are around the same places as the OFFICIAL radio edit, but are poorly executed. The worst is around 3:30... they cut a beat late making for one of the sloppiest moments on this royalfuckupofacompilation. I don't understand why this needed to be recreated as the official edit appears on countless singles and 2001's GHV2 compilation. Oh. And the "surface noise" on the end of "Erotica" overlaps the beginning of "Justify My Love". * DON'T TELL ME - FAKE Radio Edit * The least offensive/noticeable fake edit, but incorrect nonetheless. The true radio edit was a unique mix for the very last second that does not feature the "whimsical strings" tag. For Celebration, they have chopped off the end, but the first millisecond of this tag is audible. | |
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Wow. I'm still buying it but I hope its not as bad as everyone is making it sound. 2012: The Queen Returns | |
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RKJCNE said: Wow. I'm still buying it but I hope its not as bad as everyone is making it sound.
Me too but it sounds like they did an awful job despite the supposed effort to remaster! The best part is, the price does not reflect the show low quality (the single disc costs $11.99 despite all other single disc new releases costing $9.99 the first week they are out). | |
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VinnyM27 said: RKJCNE said: Wow. I'm still buying it but I hope its not as bad as everyone is making it sound.
Me too but it sounds like they did an awful job despite the supposed effort to remaster! The best part is, the price does not reflect the show low quality (the single disc costs $11.99 despite all other single disc new releases costing $9.99 the first week they are out). do you know what the uble costs? 2012: The Queen Returns | |
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RKJCNE said: VinnyM27 said: Me too but it sounds like they did an awful job despite the supposed effort to remaster! The best part is, the price does not reflect the show low quality (the single disc costs $11.99 despite all other single disc new releases costing $9.99 the first week they are out). do you know what the uble costs? The double disc is $16.99 at Best Buy. "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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AlexdeParis said: RKJCNE said: do you know what the uble costs? The double disc is $16.99 at Best Buy. That's a good deal! is the Target price similar? cause I can walk to that by my house on tuesday morning! 2012: The Queen Returns | |
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Prices at Target:
2-CD set $15.98 single disc $11.98 Prices at Best Buy: 2-CD set $16.99 single disc $11.99 Looks like Target is where I am headed Neither store has the price for the DVD. Does anyone know how much it will be at Wal-Mart? | |
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GirlBrother said: This is interesting... It's a list of errors posted by a member of a Madonna forum, and currently circulating around the net...
Here is what is included on Celebration.
There are 16 previously released songs featured in their full-length, original album versions. * BURNING UP * HOLIDAY * MATERIAL GIRL * INTO THE GROOVE * LIVE TO TELL * PAPA DON'T PREACH * LA ISLA BONITA * WHO'S THAT GIRL * LIKE A PRAYER * JUSTIFY MY LOVE * TAKE A BOW * FROZEN * BEAUTIFUL STRANGER * MUSIC - MASTERING ERROR: multiple digital pops and clicks that are not part of the original recording can be heard throughout this song. * DIE ANOTHER DAY - MASTERING ERROR: Track fades up late due to the incorrectly placed track index on the American Life album. This is ridiculous. The unaffected album version appears on both the US Promo CD single and the Die Another Day film soundtrack, all Warner Bros. releases. * HOLLYWOOD - MASTERING ERROR: Track starts abruptly and end of "American Life"'s fade out is audible. Of these, ten were released as singles in versions that differ from these LP mixes. I would have much preferred the inclusion of the difficult to obtain single mixes, but I'm in therapy and have mostly moved on. Mostly. Fortunately, five tracks do appear in their official single versions. * SECRET (Edit) * RAY OF LIGHT (Edit) * SORRY (Single Edit) * 4 MINUTES (Edit) * MILES AWAY (Radio Edit) ...and one more is a rarity from a US promo CD: * HUNG UP ([Unblended] Album Version) Next up, there are five remixes lifted directly from The Immaculate Collection. * BORDERLINE (1990) (Q Sound Mix) * LIKE A VIRGIN (1990) (Q Sound Mix) * CRAZY FOR YOU (1990) (Q Sound Mix) * OPEN YOUR HEART (1990) (Q Sound Mix) * VOGUE (1990) (Q Sound Mix) And now we pause to ask ourselves why. The remaining nine tracks are unique to the collection. The first two are new recordings. * CELEBRATION * REVOLVER One appears to be a from-the-vault rarity, likely included by mistake. * LUCKY STAR - ALTERNATIVE Q SOUND MIX * Virtually identical to the version heard on The Immaculate Collection, though there is noticeably more reverb on the "ee-yeah"'s at the foot of each chorus. The music leading into the first verse is different (on TIC is was edited to match the original 7" version, on here it is not.) The most obvious difference is right at the fade, instead of the chorus it edits to a set of adlibs heard on longer versions of the song, but not heard on the Q Sound version. Odd, but inoffensive as it seems to be a genuine unreleased variation. As for the rest, quality control has reached an all time low: * EVERYBODY - FAKE EDIT * This uses the full length, original 12" version as its starting point (as did the official 7" single version), but is structured differently. While the overall idea for this edit wasn't horrendous, whoever was placed in charge of actually executing the edits needs to be tortured. Slowly... painfully. * DRESS YOU UP - FUCKED UP INTRO * What the hell happened here? This isn't a mix variation so much as a mastering error... the album version started late with severe tape pinch/phasing issues right at the top. Of the four beats on the intro, all but the fourth are missing. * EXPRESS YOURSELF - FAKE FUCKING ****. * The most offensive. In a failed attempt to kindofsortof recreate the video version, they have taken the complete intro straight off of the Local Mix, "zipper" included. The actual, official video version starts at the percussion and is specially mixed to have echo on the line "Do you believe in love..." which is dry on the Local Mix and therefore not present here. This new monstrosity then incorrectly cuts to the 7" Remix/Edit version and then again where they have BUTCHERED the song right at the bridge. A bad edit jumps the track from the end of the chorus to the repeat of the bridge which kills the structure of the track. This version is unlistenable. * CHERISH - FAKE EDIT * The original album version cut to the length of the super-short Immaculate Collection version. AMATEUR doesn't begin to describe how bad these edits have been executed. Poor edits result in creating entirely new lyrics! How about this chestnut... "Can't get away, I won't let to" ?! They render all prior complaints about bad edits on Madonna's releases void. Again, unlistenable. In the cases of "Express Yourself" and "Cherish," why not just use the fucking Q Sound remixes?! They're the exact same length as the fake edits and it's not like there aren't 6 others from that release present here. * EROTICA - FAKE Radio Edit * The edit points are around the same places as the OFFICIAL radio edit, but are poorly executed. The worst is around 3:30... they cut a beat late making for one of the sloppiest moments on this royalfuckupofacompilation. I don't understand why this needed to be recreated as the official edit appears on countless singles and 2001's GHV2 compilation. Oh. And the "surface noise" on the end of "Erotica" overlaps the beginning of "Justify My Love". * DON'T TELL ME - FAKE Radio Edit * The least offensive/noticeable fake edit, but incorrect nonetheless. The true radio edit was a unique mix for the very last second that does not feature the "whimsical strings" tag. For Celebration, they have chopped off the end, but the first millisecond of this tag is audible. absolutely disgusting. | |
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SoulAlive said: Prices at Target:
2-CD set $15.98 single disc $11.98 Prices at Best Buy: 2-CD set $16.99 single disc $11.99 Looks like Target is where I am headed Neither store has the price for the DVD. Does anyone know how much it will be at Wal-Mart? Is walmart gonna carry it? I thought for sure they wouldn't dare sell her stuff after Erotica or AL. 2012: The Queen Returns | |
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RKJCNE said: SoulAlive said: Prices at Target:
2-CD set $15.98 single disc $11.98 Prices at Best Buy: 2-CD set $16.99 single disc $11.99 Looks like Target is where I am headed Neither store has the price for the DVD. Does anyone know how much it will be at Wal-Mart? Is walmart gonna carry it? I thought for sure they wouldn't dare sell her stuff after Erotica or AL. both of those albums came in an edited version and they sold them. their only beef seems to be with swearing. they've carried all of her albums upon release. | |
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RKJCNE said: SoulAlive said: Prices at Target:
2-CD set $15.98 single disc $11.98 Prices at Best Buy: 2-CD set $16.99 single disc $11.99 Looks like Target is where I am headed Neither store has the price for the DVD. Does anyone know how much it will be at Wal-Mart? Is walmart gonna carry it? I thought for sure they wouldn't dare sell her stuff after Erotica or AL. Yeah,they will carry it.My Sunday newpaper doesn't have a Wal-Mart ad so I have no idea how much it will be.Fry's Electronics is listing a $9.95 price for Celebration,but they seem confused.They don't have a price for the 2-disc set. | |
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Question about the Video Collection...
A friend told me the videos for Erotica & Justify are edited. I remember reading that Justify would have some never previously seen footage, Is that for censoring reasons?? So... Has anyboy seen these videos?? Fortunately I got both from the internet without logos and in very good quality. "America is a continent..." | |
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