Do you think Prince would have not performed with Beyonce at the Grammy's if he knew the truth about her?

It's a known fact that she has all her songs ghostwritten for her and changes one letter to receive publishing then claims she wrote them herself. Also her father is one of the sneakiest snakes in the music business, much worse than Prince's old labels, and dont get me started on her husband Jay-Z.

I don't think Prince would've performed with her if he knew more about her and her fathers sneaky tactics, but because he probably doesn't pay attention to crappy pop music he wouldn't have realised.

Now Bey is performing "The Beautiful Ones" on her new tour and I think it's a disgrace because she represents everything that Prince is not. She's just another Britney, but people think she is a real artist just because she can SANG.

Prince should stick to supporting talented female artists like Alicia Keys.

Um...yeah. I mean the duet was part of his 25 year anniversary marketing for the tour later that year.

He would have dueted with Bobby Sherman.


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He wouldn't care. He's not above selling out himself and that performance with her was one of his worst sellout moments.

So you think he just did it for the exposure and didn't give a damn about her quality as an artist?

Hmm.

I hate that she is covering his songs on her tour, it's shitting me. She has a new idol every 5 seconds, I wish she'd just stick to covering Etta James and Michael Jackson who she claimed were her biggest inspirations.

Exactly. He's always preaching about the importance of "real music". Hell, I ain't never heard no real music coming from her.

vainandy said:

Selling out is an understatement. A JW (Prince) doing a live duet with demon-possessed woman (Beyonce AKA Sasha Fierce).

I would love to see how Prince explain himself at the next bible study session!

Calluout said:

Remember sometime last spring when Beyonce was beat-biting Tina Turner AND Diana Ross?!?

i dunno i just can't really admire Beyonce because it seems she didn't pay her dues. artist today come up too fast. stars aren't 'stars' todays music.
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I don't know about Beyonce, she just doesn't have "It" for me. I mean I just don't see a coolness factor for her like I see in Madonna, Debbie Harry,
Donna Summer, Grace Jones, Vanity , Kelis.

I try but she just too clean for me.
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Calluout said:

What's wrong with having more than one inspiration?

Why do you care so much about everything about her?

I can't wait for the "Don't you hate the way Beyonce blinks?" thread...

Calluout said:

"People think she's a real artist just because she can sang."

Did you even read that sentence when you wrote it or do you prefer him performing with people who can't sing?

I'm not a big fan of Bey but even I can see that she's beautiful...I'm sure Prince noticed too...he's pretty good at that.

At the time Prince was promoting his musicology tour and being onstage at an awards show with the super popular Ms. Bey is something he most likely saw as good exposure.

What part of that equation is confusing to you?

tangerine7 said:

she's been in the game over half of her life...Gyrl's Time, Destiny's Child, and solo...how has she NOT paid her dues. I'm no Beyonce stan and I think she can be very irritating because she's always out all up in my face....but I can acknowledge some basic truths. She can sing, and she worked her ass off to get where she is today.

Prince can probably relate to Beyone's hustle more than most. There is nothing Prince admires more than a person who is dedicated, even to the point of coming across as hard and selfish. Prince should be able to relate more than anyone to chewing up folk and spitting them out in your quest to get ahead.

WHY would PRINCE care about Beyonce writing songs or not, i mean this is a man that Worked with the talents of Vanity and Apollonia (the latter whom had never been behind a microphone till 1984), this is also a man that said Ingrid Chavez was one of the most talented singers he had come across?? I mean come on now

lastdecember said:

I know, right?

lastdecember said:

Was about to post the. exact. same. thing.

Those ladies weren't shit hop. That's the difference.

babynoz said:

Prince would've gotten the same OR better results with Christina.

And lets not forget that Prince was about the enter the R&R Hall Of Fame on the same year Musicology was release to the public. THIS is the real reason why Prince was back in the pop mainstream.

lastdecember said:

This is also the same Prince that once did not one but TWO awesome duets with Rosie Gaines. And there is no way in hell that Beyonce can sing better than Rosie.

This is also the same Prince that did have a working relationship with Chaka Khan for a little while. And Chaka IS talent.
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Prince has collaborated with a wide variety of female singers. Beyonce being one of the better ones.

Calluout said:

It's a known fact that she has all her songs ghostwritten for her and changes one letter to receive publishing then claims she wrote them herself. Also her father is one of the sneakiest snakes in the music business, much worse than Prince's old labels, and dont get me started on her husband Jay-Z.

Wow the nerve of you puttin Beyonce's secret to success out there! This issue surfaced but died out pretty soon because her fixers swashed that, and it fell by the wayside. I heard she is short changing her fixers and bad rumors are leaking about Matthew Knowles having a threesome and getting a female pregnant. Mrs Jayonce is NOT happy about it either!

Maybe that is how Jayonce keeps the hits coming! I believe if Prince knew this broad wasn't genuine he would not have worked with her.
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Chic35 said:

One of my music teachers worked with Matthew during a charity event for the troops where Destiny's Child performed, and he told me at one point during the planning process that Matthew vanished for 2 days and it turned out that he was off on a yaught with his mistress. He's very shady.

babynoz said:

Yeah but she's still SANGIN tracks she has no input over and "pretends" to write herself when she doesn't. It'd be fine if she was a Whitney Houston who performs tracks she selects herself and admits she doesn't write, but Bey tries to pretend she can do it all when she can't and she lies to the fans to get that message out.

I feel like now Prince is older he is over that kind of rubbish and I'm surprised out of everyone that he took the stage with her, but if all he was after was exposure and didn't care then that's fair.

I think it's a shame though that someone as talented as him isn't concerned with this type of mess, especially since all the drama he went through at the hands of record labels.

Cinnie said:

...A BROAD SPECTRUM...


RANGING FROM CARMEN ELECTRA TO CHAKA
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TonyVanDam said:

I think Christina is a bit of a Beyonce as well because Sia who is working on Xtinas new album replied to someone and she strongly hinted that she and her band had written some song but that Christina would just change a word or two and get a credit.

Flowerpower said:

That;s because all the women you mentioned are individual, innovators, and controlled their careers. Bey is just her daddy and Jayz puppet, and that's why I have never been able to connect with her as an artist.

Calluout said:

Xtina is different. Beautiful is solely credited to Linda Perry. It's probably her biggest hit.

lastdecember said:

Absolutely. In the past 5 years, Prince has done a lot of hamming it up with big stars with whom we would have never guessed he would have associated years before. Prince was trying to "play by the rules" to regain some public recognition. The American Idol performance offers another example. It's his right and his prerogative, altruistic though it may not be.

Calluout said:

The main thing is at least Christina is doing the dirt herself (for better OR worse). And yes, there might be some truth to what Dallas Austin was saying about Christina's past incidents of F***ing For Tracks before she gotten married.

Beyonce always have to rely on his cut-throat father Matthew and her rogue Freemason/global elite worshiping husband Jay-Z to do her dirty work.

Calluout said:

I'm sorry but you don't know what the hell you're talking about. How many business dealings have you had with WB? None, I bet. WB is comprised of several hundreds of dudes like Matt Knowles. He could only aspire to be as dirty as that label. Matthew is only one snake. Warner Bros. is a vipers' den.

And who the hell is Prince? Are we talking about the same Prince that chose to attempt to make careers for Carmen Electra and a long list of bimbos with little or no talent? Dude shouldn't be one to EVER complain about who he takes the stage with. At least Beyoncé can sing and perform - certainly better than any of the females he's tried to put on the scene.
The truth is he knows the truth - being seen on stage with Beyoncé helps BOTH OF THEM. Its called self-promotion. Ain't no shame in it.