Moonbeam said:

"I suppose I can fall into the "hater" category, and violently to for certain artists."

Fuck yeah, you're a hater. You're the FIRST one I thought about. Glad you admitted it yourself.

"But I don't do it to try to piss off people here."

Bullshit. That's why you troll every Beatles thread, huh?

dannyd5050 said:

I don't troll every Beatles thread. And my intention is never to piss anyone off, whether you agree with me or not. The thread you refer to was one specifically claiming that the Beatles were overrated, so I felt I could chime in.

Moonbeam said:

No not that thread! Remember writing this?

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I'd only buy such items for the sake of watching them destroyed. " on the Beatles remaster thread?

Posters excited about the Beatles remasters and you have to come shit on the celebration! If that's not troll-like behavior....

dannyd5050 said:

I was mentioned three times in that thread in a tongue-in-cheek kind of way! I responded in a likewise tongue-in-cheek manner. Nobody else seemed to get offended. I'm happy for people who are excited for the remasters. They've been long overdue. But I won't apologize for posting playfully in response to playful posts directed at me!

Moonbeam said:

Okay, okay...It was kinda funny...

dannyd5050 said:

I really don't mean to offend anybody. My disdain for the Beatles has become a joke around here to several people (my brother TRON, errant, Anxiety, theAudience, damosuzuki, SoulAlive, etc.), but I respect the heck out of all of them and their taste in music. I'm happy that they're all happy, and I hope they know that! Just a bit of good-natured ribbing.

when it comes to MJ...it's because they are diehard prince fans still stuck in the eighties.

or Elvis floons mad that Michael was bigger than Elvis and married Elvis's daughter.


When it comes to Madonna, usually Janet floons mad that Janet was promoted to be the black Madonna or that the fact that they don't wanna admit that Madonna is more successful than Janet or that Janet is an female mj imitator.

When it comes to Mariah, usually Janet and Madonna floons mad that their idols couldn't sing like Mariah in Mariah's hey day.

J/K....well maybe not Just ppl who don't have a life that feel like they have to prove their artist is the best.

Why do some on this site see criticism, of ALL types, as hating?

Is it ....

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It's their job to hate.


And I don't think SWA is talking about the simple constructive criticsm that happens.

xlr8r said:

My point is that there are some who can't handle criticism of any type and suddenly whip out 'HATER' as a reflex.

I find that far more annoying.

TyphoonTip said:

That's messed up as well but I dont think that was what SWA meant just the same.

TyphoonTip said:

To clarify that isn't what I am saying. I actually enjoy criticism if it is insightful and opens my mind up to seeing a different point of view - and if it is given in an equally open way so that the person posting might also be introduced to seeing things in a new way.

Criticism, debate etc is all healthy and respectful.

But just trying to be counter for the sake of it, or deliberately be inflamatory, or just piss on someones parade for the sake of it, I just don't get.

Swa

Swa said:

I agree completely.

But to be honest, I'm not sure there is that much of it, really. Sure it exists, but from my daily perusal of the org I find there are far more examples of those that instantly get their hackles up the moment anyone dares to say P has his hair parted the wrong way.

I could be wrong. I don't have any stats to back this up. It could be the fact that it sh!ts me so much, means that I'm more likely to notice it. Or perhaps it's these recent ridiculous 'P, the BEST of all time' threads that's gotten up my nose.

Anyway, just thought it was a relevant adjunct topic still in keeping with the spirit of the thread. I wasn't trying to derail.

IstenSzek said:

I love that clip but i can't find it lol

Swa said:

It's all good.

I call those types of people 'trolls'. They just want to push people's buttons because they enjoy pissing people off, which I think is just stupid and childish. Honestly, I come on here to try to have healthy, intelligent debates that don't include name-calling and becoming disrespectful. Even with artists that I don't particularly care for, I can still give them a compliment about something. I can't stand Britney Spears, but I do enjoy a few of her songs and have no problem saying that when I comment on her; however, with Diddy, it's much harder because I can't stand that arrogant muthafucka

If a person's opinion can sway another person from liking an artist, than that person either has a damn good opinion with lots of evidence to back it, or the fan really wasn't liking that artist for the right reasons to begin with, which is something that I see a whole lot; and not just on the .org. Some people only like an artist for the image and can't see past it to realize that the image is really all there is to that artist. It's like getting a Christmas present. It's got a big, red bow and beautiful, shiny gift wrap with little candy canes, reindeer, and Santas on it, but when you open it up...it's a bunch of socks and some hideous underwear that are waay too small. I've seem some great gifts wrapped in newspaper.

For troll control, just use this sign ....most of the time it seems to either piss them off or shut them up, but some of them can be persistent little buggers.

Chic35 said:

Exactly! Most people are fine with posting their opposing opinions and leaving it at that, but there's always going to be some crazed fanatic who insists that their favorite artist is the best thing since sliced bread and TV; and that's when the debating (most times arguing) actually begins. I have lots of artists that I love, but even with them, I don't praise every single thing that they do and I can agree on several points that non-fans have made regarding them on more than one post. Seriously, if that person can't walk on water, multiply food, bring people back to life, or turn water into some form of alcohol, I damn sure ain't losing my mind over them like some people do. They are just people who are good (some notsomuch) at what they do. I give more respect to plumbers, school teachers, and police officers, because I actually really need all these people waay more than any artist. Just my

heybaby said:

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because when you have a strong opinion about something , you (i at least)
wanna share it

I think that people 'hate on' or envy others because they are not happy in there own lives. Simple. People generally covet what they don't have. And celebs have a lot of the things that people wish they had especially if the artist is terrible it makes it almost unfair
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I'd rather sit with a hater than a sycophant. At least you know where you stand with a hater. Although after ten minutes or so of either I'd be inclined to strangle them with their own intestines.

I think it's easier to understand a hater than an idol-worshipper. Especially the ones that talk/type utter tripe. Talk sensibly in common English or just don't bother at all. When those types (no names remember) type their waffle they sound like children or worse, the mentally disturbed. Generally their text contains nothing explicit except meaningless words strung together to create some irrelevant non-message. In short they're twats.

And hate and humour can often be misunderstood by those lacking in wit and intelligence. Ot it's just badly put across (a smiley usually does the job although the clueless often miss those too).

The opposite reason why lovers love

And this is wat I think of the word "hate"

The bigger question is, why can't we banish the word "Hater"?

vainandy said:

the gool ol days

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heybaby said:

Classic!

ler the poppers pop
and the haters hate (breakers break)

Run-DMC

iloveannie said:

LOL!! Word up!!

I DON'T THANK THESE MID-AGE PEOPLE KNOWS WHAT THE WORD HATER MEANS.