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Printableerrant said: RKJCNE said: Yeah I think the entire look, sound and stage tour of confessions was her most creative, I do think Like a Prayer was her best album, but I think Confessions shows growth as an Artist. to me, she was treading water, pandering for a comeback from the more artistic/more annoying/more interesting/most unsuccessful American Life by throwing her gay fans a bone with some Kylie-esque euro-disco. different strokes, i guess. Madge has been following Kylie this past decade. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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CrozzaUK said: midnightmover said: LOL, I'm not upset at all. It's just fun once in a while to drop a dose of reality into these crazy fan get-togethers. Madonna is not someone I pay much attention to these days. Oh, I just found something positive to say about her. Some plastic surgeon finally put her face right. Last year she looked like she had two icecubes stuffed into her cheeks. Now her face is looking similar to how it did in the early '90s. I hate to say it but I probably would..... It's been a long time since I've been able to say that about Madonna. Just enough attention to waste some precious minutes out of your highly cultured existence to post your thoughts about her on the org. We all appreciate it. Its always nice to hear the opinions of true art lovers. Btw, when will you get round to reconciling this whole "ART love" with your "Cyndi love". Dont get me wrong....i love Cyndi, but she's no more "ART" than Celine Dion is. [Edited 8/4/09 17:02pm] There's nothing to reconcile. Cyndi is the best female performer in the game. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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CrozzaUK said: Away from dance music Id quite simply like to hear her produce something a little more relaxed and organic sounding. Not an american Life folktronica type thing - more of a live album with a fucking good band. I dlike to see her write more stuff with joe Henry. i love all their collaborations to date. I would love that. I would like to see her take a step away from just dance music. I adore Confessions, it's one of my favorite records, but I feel she is in danger of getting pigeon holed as just a dance artist. Her music over the years has been more eclectic and she has broken down barriers and overcome stereotypes. I feel just doing dance music is limiting her. | |
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How can anyone call Cyndi Lauper pure art? I have a lot of records and like them, but art she ain't.
It's fair enough if you don't like Madonna and feel she's too commercial and focused on just money and having hits. Sometimes even though I'm a fan, I feel that too. But to put up Cyndi is an alternative is really ridiculous in my opinion. Her music is geared towards the charts, but she just isn't very good at getting on them. An artist who is about art and doesn't care about charts and commercial things to me is someone like P.J. Harvey. I went to her concert recently and it was life changing. Cyndi isn't in the same league. | |
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Wow, this thread took an unexpected turn.  
Any chance we can get back to discussing Madonna? | |
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onenitealone said: Wow, this thread took an unexpected turn.
Any chance we can get back to discussing Madonna? i am i just pointed out that Madonna is currently lifting alot of her look and style from Kylie as of late. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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SoulAlive said: CrozzaUK said: Just enough attention to waste some precious minutes out of your highly cultured existence to post your thoughts about her on the org. We all appreciate it. Its always nice to hear the opinions of true art lovers. Btw, when will you get round to reconciling this whole "ART love" with your "Cyndi love". Dont get me wrong....i love Cyndi, but she's no more "ART" than Celine Dion is. It's weird the way some people spend so much time on artists that they don't like I can't stand R.Kelly or Kid Rock,so you wouldn't see me on the threads devoted to them,wasting my time analyzing,discussing,and debating their music.I've never even listened to any of their albums all the way through! I've always said that,when you decide that an artist is untalented or not your cup of tea,then there is no way that you can analyze their music honestly and objectively.If someone hands you their latest CD,you're automatically gonna say it's garbage.
Madonna is not someone I pay much attention to these days  and yet,you seem to know how all of her recent music sounds.You know the lyrics,you know who the producers are,etc.
I gotta hand it to Madonna,though.Even the haters can't seem to completely ignore her What a confused and nonsensical post. Firstly, I'm hardly ever on these Madonna threads. Go back and look over the Madonna threads from the last year. You'll see I usually ignore them like the swine flu clinic. The fact that you THINK I'm on them just shows how much time YOU spend thinking about ME! You imagine I'm there even when I'm nowhere in sight.
Secondly, you say I know all about her latest music. Dude, I havent heard a Madonna album since Music in 2000, BUT I've heard the singles just like everyone else in the UK. Also, once in a while I click on the links that you guys provide to see what all the fuss is about, and always I hear naff shit!
I liked her once upon a time which explains why I have a good knowledge of her career. Therefore, your R. Kelly and Kid Rock comparisons are stupid since you never once liked them. See the difference? 
Oh and I've seen you commenting on plenty of artists you don't like, so stop fronting. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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ehuffnsd said: onenitealone said: Wow, this thread took an unexpected turn.
Any chance we can get back to discussing Madonna? i am i just pointed out that Madonna is currently lifting alot of her look and style from Kylie as of late. Thank you - and it's not directed at you in particular, Eric.  If anything, that sort of thing is what we should be talking about.  | |
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Glindathegood said: How can anyone call Cyndi Lauper pure art? I have a lot of records and like them, but art she ain't.
It's fair enough if you don't like Madonna and feel she's too commercial and focused on just money and having hits. Sometimes even though I'm a fan, I feel that too. But to put up Cyndi is an alternative is really ridiculous in my opinion. Her music is geared towards the charts, but she just isn't very good at getting on them. An artist who is about art and doesn't care about charts and commercial things to me is someone like P.J. Harvey. I went to her concert recently and it was life changing. Cyndi isn't in the same league. Have you ever heard the term "straw man"? I suggest you look it up, because at the moment you're arguing with one. Wow.....  “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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onenitealone said: ehuffnsd said: i am i just pointed out that Madonna is currently lifting alot of her look and style from Kylie as of late. Thank you - and it's not directed at you in particular, Eric. If anything, that sort of thing is what we should be talking about. well i did i kinda veer the conversation into gay politics a couple pages ago  You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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ehuffnsd said: onenitealone said: Thank you - and it's not directed at you in particular, Eric. If anything, that sort of thing is what we should be talking about. well i did i kinda veer the conversation into gay politics a couple pages ago Well, there's THAT yes - but, again, it's not directed at you (or anyone) in particular. | |
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midnightmover said: Glindathegood said: How can anyone call Cyndi Lauper pure art? I have a lot of records and like them, but art she ain't.
It's fair enough if you don't like Madonna and feel she's too commercial and focused on just money and having hits. Sometimes even though I'm a fan, I feel that too. But to put up Cyndi is an alternative is really ridiculous in my opinion. Her music is geared towards the charts, but she just isn't very good at getting on them. An artist who is about art and doesn't care about charts and commercial things to me is someone like P.J. Harvey. I went to her concert recently and it was life changing. Cyndi isn't in the same league. Have you ever heard the term "straw man"? I suggest you look it up, because at the moment you're arguing with one. Wow.....  | |
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midnightmover said: There's nothing to reconcile. Cyndi is the best female performer in the game. Master of avoidance as always. U dont need to post a bunch of youtube clips for me - i already have my own considerable appreciation of Cyndi that you're not gonna enhance. What im asking you to do is differentiate what Cyndi does to what Madonna does. You talk about ART, and you appreciation of it. Demonstrate this to us by talking us through it. Id really appreciate it. [Edited 8/5/09 13:53pm] | |
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Why do people still compare the two, they are so wildly different. it's like the comparisons of Britney and Christina, they have evolved into different artists with very different catalogs. 2012: The Queen Returns | |
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midnightmover said: SoulAlive said: It's weird the way some people spend so much time on artists that they don't like I can't stand R.Kelly or Kid Rock,so you wouldn't see me on the threads devoted to them,wasting my time analyzing,discussing,and debating their music.I've never even listened to any of their albums all the way through! I've always said that,when you decide that an artist is untalented or not your cup of tea,then there is no way that you can analyze their music honestly and objectively.If someone hands you their latest CD,you're automatically gonna say it's garbage.
Madonna is not someone I pay much attention to these days and yet,you seem to know how all of her recent music sounds.You know the lyrics,you know who the producers are,etc.
I gotta hand it to Madonna,though.Even the haters can't seem to completely ignore her What a confused and nonsensical post. Firstly, I'm hardly ever on these Madonna threads. Go back and look over the Madonna threads from the last year. You'll see I usually ignore them like the swine flu clinic. The fact that you THINK I'm on them just shows how much time YOU spend thinking about ME! You imagine I'm there even when I'm nowhere in sight.
Secondly, you say I know all about her latest music. Dude, I havent heard a Madonna album since Music in 2000, BUT I've heard the singles just like everyone else in the UK. Also, once in a while I click on the links that you guys provide to see what all the fuss is about, and always I hear naff shit!
I liked her once upon a time which explains why I have a good knowledge of her career. Therefore, your R. Kelly and Kid Rock comparisons are stupid since you never once liked them. See the difference?
Oh and I've seen you commenting on plenty of artists you don't like, so stop fronting. nah-ah it aint fronting - you spend more time than is healthy commenting on someone you "dont pay attention to". You simply didnt need to come in on this post. you offered no opinion other than that which you've whored out for the last year or so - you hate madonna.....so what. Its tired - and its transparent. You relish winding people up and get off on seeing them react. I used to do that for kicks when i was 12, but im guessing no one who is 12 is gonna be a huge Cyndi fan. I'm guessing your a mid 30s kinda guy - slightly hung up about their sexuality - hence you having to constantly reinforce that you're "straight" by referencing a desire bang various females (another indication you may actually be 12), and a possible inclination to be drunk by the early evening, at which point you begin to post on various madonna / MJ / JJ threads on the org, and a total avoidance to back up anything you say by focusing on semantics and minor detail in other peoples comments to distract from the fact you're actually clueless. I could be wrong though. you may actually be the highly cultured art lover that you say you are. Im just waiting for you to back it up. [Edited 8/5/09 14:08pm] | |
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onenitealone said: ehuffnsd said: i am i just pointed out that Madonna is currently lifting alot of her look and style from Kylie as of late. Thank you - and it's not directed at you in particular, Eric. If anything, that sort of thing is what we should be talking about. but i guess no one wants to comment on Madge looking to Kylie for inspiration. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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CrozzaUK said: midnightmover said: There's nothing to reconcile. Cyndi is the best female performer in the game. Master of avoidance as always. U dont need to post a bunch of youtube clips for me - i already have my own considerable appreciation of Cyndi that you're not gonna enhance. What im asking you to do is differentiate what Cyndi does to what Madonna does. You talk about ART, and you appreciation of it. Demonstrate this to us by talking us through it. Id really appreciate it. [Edited 8/5/09 13:53pm] I resent that. I don't avoid. I'm respecting you enough to not spoon feed you. The main thing I like about Cyndi is her performing. Watch those clips and you should be able to see how much soul, character, and expression she has. But then again, you are a Madonna fan, so those qualities are probably not high on your priority list when judging a performer. Cyndi's recorded output is extremely patchy and more or less ends in 1996 when her record company pulled the plug on her. Since then it's been pure gimmick albums. She has simply had no control over it. Albums have to be financed and they won't finance her unless she does what they want. That is a great shame, since she's proven just what a great writer she can be. She's a FANTASTIC lyricist for instance. Gets very little credit for it, but if you check it out you'll see just how skilled she is. I won't draw the obvious comparison with Madonna because I don't want this to turn into a Cyndi vs Madge thing. I'm only talking about Cyndi here because YOU GUYS repeatedly brought it up. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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midnightmover said: CrozzaUK said: Master of avoidance as always. U dont need to post a bunch of youtube clips for me - i already have my own considerable appreciation of Cyndi that you're not gonna enhance. What im asking you to do is differentiate what Cyndi does to what Madonna does. You talk about ART, and you appreciation of it. Demonstrate this to us by talking us through it. Id really appreciate it. [Edited 8/5/09 13:53pm] I resent that. I don't avoid. I'm respecting you enough to not spoon feed you. The main thing I like about Cyndi is her performing. Watch those clips and you should be able to see how much soul, character, and expression she has. But then again, you are a Madonna fan, so those qualities are probably not high on your priority list when judging a performer. Cyndi's recorded output is extremely patchy and more or less ends in 1996 when her record company pulled the plug on her. Since then it's been pure gimmick albums. She has simply had no control over it. Albums have to be financed and they won't finance her unless she does what they want. That is a great shame, since she's proven just what a great writer she can be. She's a FANTASTIC lyricist for instance. Gets very little credit for it, but if you check it out you'll see just how skilled she is. I won't draw the obvious comparison with Madonna because I don't want this to turn into a Cyndi vs Madge thing. I'm only talking about Cyndi here because YOU GUYS repeatedly brought it up. brought it up because you make such preposterous declarations like "I only appreciate ART". there is no difference to what these two ladies do. i wont get into saying anything abouy cyndi because i like her, but there truly is no difference in how they approach their music.....Yes...Cyndi was naturally gifted with a unique voice.....but that an artist does not make. | |
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CrozzaUK said: midnightmover said: What a confused and nonsensical post. Firstly, I'm hardly ever on these Madonna threads. Go back and look over the Madonna threads from the last year. You'll see I usually ignore them like the swine flu clinic. The fact that you THINK I'm on them just shows how much time YOU spend thinking about ME! You imagine I'm there even when I'm nowhere in sight.
Secondly, you say I know all about her latest music. Dude, I havent heard a Madonna album since Music in 2000, BUT I've heard the singles just like everyone else in the UK. Also, once in a while I click on the links that you guys provide to see what all the fuss is about, and always I hear naff shit!
I liked her once upon a time which explains why I have a good knowledge of her career. Therefore, your R. Kelly and Kid Rock comparisons are stupid since you never once liked them. See the difference?
Oh and I've seen you commenting on plenty of artists you don't like, so stop fronting. nah-ah it aint fronting - you spend more time than is healthy commenting on someone you "dont pay attention to". You simply didnt need to come in on this post. you offered no opinion other than that which you've whored out for the last year or so - you hate madonna.....so what. Its tired - and its transparent. You relish winding people up and get off on seeing them react. I used to do that for kicks when i was 12, but im guessing no one who is 12 is gonna be a huge Cyndi fan. I'm guessing your a mid 30s kinda guy - slightly hung up about their sexuality - hence you having to constantly reinforce that you're "straight" by referencing a desire bang various females (another indication you may actually be 12), and a possible inclination to be drunk by the early evening, at which point you begin to post on various madonna / MJ / JJ threads on the org, and a total avoidance to back up anything you say by focusing on semantics and minor detail in other peoples comments to distract from the fact you're actually clueless. I could be wrong though. you may actually be the highly cultured art lover that you say you are. Im just waiting for you to back it up. [Edited 8/5/09 14:08pm] Darn right you could be wrong. Not only could you be wrong. You are wrong. Badly. I came into this thread to have a bit of a laugh. I make no bones about that. It's not something I need to apologize for. It's you insecure Madonna freaks who are turning it into a serious thing. I'm not going to get dragged into holding your hand to explain to you why Cyndi Lauper is a great performer when that will only give your clueless friends an excuse to call me a "bitter Cyndi Lauper fan" every time I tell the truth about Madonna. Sorry. If you want me to talk about Cyndi, start a thread about Cyndi! “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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CrozzaUK said: midnightmover said: I resent that. I don't avoid. I'm respecting you enough to not spoon feed you. The main thing I like about Cyndi is her performing. Watch those clips and you should be able to see how much soul, character, and expression she has. But then again, you are a Madonna fan, so those qualities are probably not high on your priority list when judging a performer. Cyndi's recorded output is extremely patchy and more or less ends in 1996 when her record company pulled the plug on her. Since then it's been pure gimmick albums. She has simply had no control over it. Albums have to be financed and they won't finance her unless she does what they want. That is a great shame, since she's proven just what a great writer she can be. She's a FANTASTIC lyricist for instance. Gets very little credit for it, but if you check it out you'll see just how skilled she is. I won't draw the obvious comparison with Madonna because I don't want this to turn into a Cyndi vs Madge thing. I'm only talking about Cyndi here because YOU GUYS repeatedly brought it up. brought it up because you make such preposterous declarations like "I only appreciate ART". there is no difference to what these two ladies do. i wont get into saying anything abouy cyndi because i like her, but there truly is no difference in how they approach their music.....Yes...Cyndi was naturally gifted with a unique voice.....but that an artist does not make. Absolutely fucking dumb comment! Did you see the clip I posted of Cyndi singing with Patti Labelle? Do you think for one second Madonna could do that?
Did you see the clip of "Stay" I posted? Or "True Colours" or "Carey"? If you watched those and you think there's "no difference to what these two ladies do" then you have no business commenting on this subject. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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midnightmover said: Cyndi's recorded output is extremely patchy and more or less ends in 1996 when her record company pulled the plug on her. Since then it's been pure gimmick albums. She has simply had no control over it. Albums have to be financed and they won't finance her unless she does what they want. That is a great shame, since she's proven just what a great writer she can be. She's a FANTASTIC lyricist for instance. Gets very little credit for it, but if you check it out you'll see just how skilled she is. I won't draw the obvious comparison with Madonna because I don't want this to turn into a Cyndi vs Madge thing. I'm only talking about Cyndi here because YOU GUYS repeatedly brought it up. This makes no sense to me. Cyndi made tons of money in the 80's. She doesn't seem like a wild spender who wasted tons of money on drugs, cars, houses or other silly stuff like some performers. I don't see why she couldn't finance her own music, release it independently and thus do whatever she wants artistically. Many artists with less money and a smaller fan base do that. Record companies may suggest certain things but they don't completely control artists. I don't think Cyndi has no control over what type of music she does and releases. | |
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midnightmover said: CrozzaUK said: nah-ah it aint fronting - you spend more time than is healthy commenting on someone you "dont pay attention to". You simply didnt need to come in on this post. you offered no opinion other than that which you've whored out for the last year or so - you hate madonna.....so what. Its tired - and its transparent. You relish winding people up and get off on seeing them react. I used to do that for kicks when i was 12, but im guessing no one who is 12 is gonna be a huge Cyndi fan. I'm guessing your a mid 30s kinda guy - slightly hung up about their sexuality - hence you having to constantly reinforce that you're "straight" by referencing a desire bang various females (another indication you may actually be 12), and a possible inclination to be drunk by the early evening, at which point you begin to post on various madonna / MJ / JJ threads on the org, and a total avoidance to back up anything you say by focusing on semantics and minor detail in other peoples comments to distract from the fact you're actually clueless. I could be wrong though. you may actually be the highly cultured art lover that you say you are. Im just waiting for you to back it up. [Edited 8/5/09 14:08pm] Darn right you could be wrong. Not only could you be wrong. You are wrong. Badly. I came into this thread to have a bit of a laugh. I make no bones about that. It's not something I need to apologize for. It's you insecure Madonna freaks who are turning it into a serious thing. I'm not going to get dragged into holding your hand to explain to you why Cyndi Lauper is a great performer when that will only give your clueless friends an excuse to call me a "bitter Cyndi Lauper fan" every time I tell the truth about Madonna. Sorry. If you want me to talk about Cyndi, start a thread about Cyndi! there you go again, avoiding the chance to back up what you say by simply pretending to rise above it. if you were above it you wouldnt enter this thread in the first place. i dont consider this discussion a serious thing - im glad you hate madonna, it reinforces part of what i love about her - i just dislike the fact that you prey on certain threads in order to get a rise out of certain people. its lame. | |
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midnightmover said: CrozzaUK said: brought it up because you make such preposterous declarations like "I only appreciate ART". there is no difference to what these two ladies do. i wont get into saying anything abouy cyndi because i like her, but there truly is no difference in how they approach their music.....Yes...Cyndi was naturally gifted with a unique voice.....but that an artist does not make. Absolutely fucking dumb comment! Did you see the clip I posted of Cyndi singing with Patti Labelle? Do you think for one second Madonna could do that?
Did you see the clip of "Stay" I posted? Or "True Colours" or "Carey"? If you watched those and you think there's "no difference to what these two ladies do" then you have no business commenting on this subject. i just stated that one was blessed with a better singing voice. but in the creative process....the ARTISTIC proces.....what is the difference? | |
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CrozzaUK said: midnightmover said: Darn right you could be wrong. Not only could you be wrong. You are wrong. Badly. I came into this thread to have a bit of a laugh. I make no bones about that. It's not something I need to apologize for. It's you insecure Madonna freaks who are turning it into a serious thing. I'm not going to get dragged into holding your hand to explain to you why Cyndi Lauper is a great performer when that will only give your clueless friends an excuse to call me a "bitter Cyndi Lauper fan" every time I tell the truth about Madonna. Sorry. If you want me to talk about Cyndi, start a thread about Cyndi! there you go again, avoiding the chance to back up what you say by simply pretending to rise above it. if you were above it you wouldnt enter this thread in the first place. i dont consider this discussion a serious thing - im glad you hate madonna, it reinforces part of what i love about her - i just dislike the fact that you prey on certain threads in order to get a rise out of certain people. its lame. I explained very clearly why I'm not going to talk about Cyndi here. What part of my explanation didn't you understand? The real story of this thread is just how much "carry over hostility" (to use Ehuffsd's phrase) you guys have to me. The reality is I hardly ever post on Madonna threads these days. Same goes for Janet WACKson. Haven't spoken about her in almost a year now yet you guys are still so worked up about the times I have told the truth about them that you haven't even noticed. You're even posting lengthy speculations about what I might be like. Let's face it, if my goal is to wind people up (as you say it is) then I've succeeded spectacularly. Don't you feel silly about walking into what you think is just a trap?“The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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midnightmover said: CrozzaUK said: there you go again, avoiding the chance to back up what you say by simply pretending to rise above it. if you were above it you wouldnt enter this thread in the first place. i dont consider this discussion a serious thing - im glad you hate madonna, it reinforces part of what i love about her - i just dislike the fact that you prey on certain threads in order to get a rise out of certain people. its lame. I explained very clearly why I'm not going to talk about Cyndi here. What part of my explanation didn't you understand? The real story of this thread is just how much "carry over hostility" (to use Ehuffsd's phrase) you guys have to me. The reality is I hardly ever post on Madonna threads these days. Same goes for Janet WACKson. Haven't spoken about her in almost a year now yet you guys are still so worked up about the times I have told the truth about them that you haven't even noticed. You're even posting lengthy speculations about what I might be like. Let's face it, if my goal is to wind people up (as you say it is) then I've succeeded spectacularly. Don't you feel silly about walking into what you think is just a trap?Of course it pisses me off that im having to waste timeon you, and see i have thought about just ignoring your inane ramblings, but they seem to completely interrupt the flow of the thread regardless....and for NO good reason.....so i figure i may as well call you on your BS. BTW, is this TRUTH you're talking about, read from the same book of truth that the brilliant "Chemical Ali" was reading from at the start of last Gulf war? oh and just in case you hadn't noticed....the story of this thread isn't you dear, its Madonna. Youre showing almost as much narcissism as her ladyship now in believing all of this is about you. [Edited 8/5/09 15:07pm] | |
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CrozzaUK said: midnightmover said: What a confused and nonsensical post. Firstly, I'm hardly ever on these Madonna threads. Go back and look over the Madonna threads from the last year. You'll see I usually ignore them like the swine flu clinic. The fact that you THINK I'm on them just shows how much time YOU spend thinking about ME! You imagine I'm there even when I'm nowhere in sight.
Secondly, you say I know all about her latest music. Dude, I havent heard a Madonna album since Music in 2000, BUT I've heard the singles just like everyone else in the UK. Also, once in a while I click on the links that you guys provide to see what all the fuss is about, and always I hear naff shit!
I liked her once upon a time which explains why I have a good knowledge of her career. Therefore, your R. Kelly and Kid Rock comparisons are stupid since you never once liked them. See the difference?
Oh and I've seen you commenting on plenty of artists you don't like, so stop fronting. nah-ah it aint fronting - you spend more time than is healthy commenting on someone you "dont pay attention to". You simply didnt need to come in on this post. you offered no opinion other than that which you've whored out for the last year or so - you hate madonna.....so what. Its tired - and its transparent. You relish winding people up and get off on seeing them react. I used to do that for kicks when i was 12, but im guessing no one who is 12 is gonna be a huge Cyndi fan. I'm guessing your a mid 30s kinda guy - slightly hung up about their sexuality - hence you having to constantly reinforce that you're "straight" by referencing a desire bang various females (another indication you may actually be 12), and a possible inclination to be drunk by the early evening, at which point you begin to post on various madonna / MJ / JJ threads on the org, and a total avoidance to back up anything you say by focusing on semantics and minor detail in other peoples comments to distract from the fact you're actually clueless. I could be wrong though. you may actually be the highly cultured art lover that you say you are. Im just waiting for you to back it up. [Edited 8/5/09 14:08pm] man that was a harsh analyzation. But I agree, I think midnightmover is a mean old man, daring the rice of the church where the wedding has been. | |
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CrozzaUK said: midnightmover said: Absolutely fucking dumb comment! Did you see the clip I posted of Cyndi singing with Patti Labelle? Do you think for one second Madonna could do that?
Did you see the clip of "Stay" I posted? Or "True Colours" or "Carey"? If you watched those and you think there's "no difference to what these two ladies do" then you have no business commenting on this subject. i just stated that one was blessed with a better singing voice. but in the creative process....the ARTISTIC proces.....what is the difference? Another clueless comment. I just said I wasn't going to spoon feed you or hold your hand, but it seems you need to have your hand held. What you see in those performances is not just a superior singer. That's only one part of it. It's in the face, the character. The connection with the music. The embodiment. I'm not in the mood to explain this, but Cyndi describes it as "creating a space and drawing people inside". You're not getting any more from me on this. I came into this thread for a bit of light relief. Nothing more, nothing less. So with that I bid you adieu. Have a merry Christmas and a nice life. If you have any kids in the future, may they be healthy and happy. Just don't buy them from Africa when they've already got relatives who want to raise them. That's an abuse of power. Colonial days are over. Ariva derci (however you spell it).  “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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midnightmover said: CrozzaUK said: i just stated that one was blessed with a better singing voice. but in the creative process....the ARTISTIC proces.....what is the difference? Another clueless comment. I just said I wasn't going to spoon feed you or hold your hand, but it seems you need to have your hand held. What you see in those performances is not just a superior singer. That's only one part of it. It's in the face, the character. The connection with the music. The embodiment. I'm not in the mood to explain this, but Cyndi describes it as "creating a space and drawing people inside". You're not getting any more from me on this. I came into this thread for a bit of light relief. Nothing more, nothing less. So with that I bid you adieu. Have a merry Christmas and a nice life. If you have any kids in the future, may they be healthy and happy. Just don't buy them from Africa when they've already got relatives who want to raise them. That's an abuse of power. Colonial days are over. Ariva derci (however you spell it). Yup....laters. xxx | |
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midnightmover said: So with that I bid you adieu. Have a merry Christmas and a nice life.
My favorite Madonna song, dedicated to midnightmover:  "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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AlexdeParis said: midnightmover said: So with that I bid you adieu. Have a merry Christmas and a nice life.
My favorite Madonna song, dedicated to midnightmover: 
what a gorgeuous music video too. 2012: The Queen Returns | |
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