What? Justify My Love is a great song (even if it is mostly spoken) and Rescue Me is great too. OK it sounds a bit similar to Vogue but so did most of her next studio album Erotica.

why any new songs on the discs themselves anway? they ought to make greatest hits albums with actual hits and no new material on them and package the bonus tracks on a seperate CD. included in the package as a limited edition type of thing for the first pressings and then as it becomes a catalog item, the definitive greatest hits collection isn't saddled 10 years later with some one-off crap that she (or the artist in general) came up with off the top of her head that has no hope of being a hit in any way shape or form.

make them bonus tracks for digital downloads of the album. package them as a bonus disc with the initial pressings. sell it as a single and maxi single too, but don't saddle a career-defining greatest hits album with new stuff that is barely even going to be promoted.


i can't even imagine why there are TWO new tracks on here instead of just one. anyone truly expect Revlover to get any push whatsoever? i'd be surprised if the promotion of this album even gets to the stage of there being a second single released to promote it.

"Rescue Me" is unispired filler."Justify My Love" is interesting and I did like it at the time but looking back,it's not even much of a song Madonna didn't put alot of effort into those songs.I think that she only feels inspired/motivated when she's doing an actual album,and not just a few new songs tacked onto the end of a compilation.

See my post above. Shes always written songs over producers tracks. Pat Leonard was not an established songwriter before he started working with her. He was more of a musician and musical director.....she started working with Stuart Price in exactly the same way. I would agree certain producers lend themselves to constructing songs better than others, but only a handful of tracks have been given to her:
Holiday
Borderline
Like A Virgin
Material Girl
Crazy For You
Papa Dont Preach
Open Your Heart
Justify My Love[/quote

Girls Just Wanna Have Fun
True Colors
I Drove All Night
Hole In My Heart That Goes All The Way To China
(not to mention all the covers)

This is a bitter Cyndi Lauper fan. That's just about all that needs to be said. As great of a talent as Cyndi is, does her recent dance album, her first studio album in umpteen years, really sound all that much better?

Just skimming the thread, but I'm shocked to read such realistic posts coming from Madonna fans. Madonna's music has never been the same since she stopped working with real songwriters. My only question would be, since you know this, why the hell are you still fans? She's got to be the naffest artist in pop music.

Just skimming the thread, but I'm shocked to read such realistic posts coming from Madonna fans. Madonna's music has never been the same since she stopped working with real songwriters. My only question would be, since you know this, why the hell are you still fans? She's got to be the naffest artist in pop music.

Her music was mediocre from Erotica onwards. She herself was boring throughout the '90s. In the '00s she switched from being boring to suddenly being unbelievably naff and corny. I would never have known it was even possible to be as dorky as she has been over the last decade. And her music shared this journey from competent blandness in the '90s to inept and cringe-worthy naffness in the '00s.

But we're mixing separate issues here. The real point was that she is not a good enough songwriter to excel without collaborating with real writers. Her best songs have always been either written entirely by others or written in collaboration with skilled songwriters. Since Erotica she has just written songs over producers' tracks, and the results have been pretty poor. The better songs since then have always been when real songwriters have done the melodies. Some of her fans seem to be aware of this. Others not.

This has nothing to do with Cyndi Lauper. I only really rediscovered Cyndi in late 2003 and my feelings about Madonna started before then. Around about when American Life was released. I'd tuned out from her years earlier, but only then did it hit me just what a boil on the butt hole of music she really was.

yeah, Revolver is the new JML. Mainly written by someone else and she just re-sings it, changing some lyrics so her co-writer credit is justified.

This has nothing to do with Cyndi Lauper. I only really rediscovered Cyndi in late 2003 and my feelings about Madonna started before then. Around about when American Life was released. I'd tuned out from her years earlier, but only then did it hit me just what a boil on the butt hole of music she really was.

Revolveer isn't on the new cd both new tracks were produced by Paul Oakenfield

You're barking up the wrong tree. I'm serious about music and would never dislike someone over something so petty as fan jealousy. Perhaps you are reaching for shallow explanations because you yourself are shallow. That's fine, but don't make the mistake of thinking everyone else is the same.

Yes. Madonna is the boil, not the snitty obsessed Cyndi fans that feel the need to wax philosophical about how awful she is. She must be doing something right in order to get you all upset over a thread about her upcoming hits set.

It's called Revolver, with on e.

And it not being on the GH is your specualation, just because they messed up and did not mention anyone besides Oakenfold.

Anyway, RevolveEr will be a single, GH or not.

shut the fuck up

you're reaction was unnecessary.

no i think you are a twat. therefore my reaction is justified.

and you're a hysterical tranny.

i'd rather be that than a selfloathing homophobic gay man

It's great when we see real debate on the forums

sorry it's carry over hostility i have with him over his comments about the word fag and his basic lack of understanding of the word, because he isn't native American English speaker and lack of willingness to understand the role drag has played and continues to play in the gay rights movement.

It's great when we see real debate on the forums

sorry it's carry over hostility i have with him over his comments about the word fag and his basic lack of understanding of the word, because he isn't native American English speaker and lack of willingness to understand the role drag has played and continues to play in the gay rights movement.

how can you back up this "man", midnightmover.