Marrk said:

maybe, maybe not. the Beatles albums are all being released in 2 versions of remasters in September, and available at digital outlets for the first time ever.

i think that's going to give them a boost waaaaay beyond where they're at now.

on the other hand, in the last decade, Sony seems pretty gung ho about re-packaging his back catalog every few years, and i'm sure it's only going to get worse from now on, so that'll continue to give MJ a boost as well.

Moonbeam said:

I wouldn't go that far, but it's my 2nd-favorite song on Bad. 22 years later and I still can't believe it was a CD-only bonus track.

AlexdeParis said:

no kidding, especially considering there is some stuff on that album that needs to get gone already.

(of course Sony was the inventor of the CD (right? - or at least the leader in the technology) and were trying to promote the format at that time)

why anyone would want Come Together, a cover, to take its place is beyond me, even though it is a great cover. and how it ended smack dab in the middle of HIStory after being a b-side in 1992 and in Moonwalker before that still mystifies me.
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errant said:

MEE TOOOO

I assume they are different versions. No way it sounds the same on Moonwalker.

Cinnie said:

Or they might've edited some parts off the original recording (there were those infamous fade drums they use on late '70s and '80s recordings on the original version) to make it "fitting" to be on the b-side of the DANGEROUS album and as a track on the HIStory album.

Timmy84 said:

same version. the b-side version is actually longer

Timmy84 said:

Surely an orger knows exactly what the differences are

errant said:

yeah, weird

I don't really like his cover

Cinnie said:

i do like it a lot, but it's pretty faithful to the original.

what i do NOT like is that it's a 1987/1988 recording used as a b-side in 1992 right in the middle of a 1995 studio album

errant said:

well yeah I find it hard to enjoy in the context of the HIStory album. Maybe if it was on Bad Deluxe Edition or something.

errant said:

The HIStory album is funny. It starts off so strong, but it nosedives at the halfway point and never recovers.

Cinnie said:

I'm a scientist.

Moonbeam said:

Yeah it's up and down for the most part, the same can be said about Dangerous in some parts.

Timmy84 said:

Bite yo' lip.

Cinnie said:

Yep. I have an Australian 7 track CD single of 'Jam' with the longer version of 'CT', just more ad-libs at the end compared to the 'History; version.

Incidentally, my old father (66 now) thinks his version of 'Come Together' is one of the greatest covers ever.

I think the old man may be right.(and that doesn't happen often!)

Marrk said:

I just don't 'get it' then.

Cinnie said:

Don't get me wrong, Cin, I love the "Dangerous" album but there were some songs where some stuff I didn't think were necessary (like the raps in "She Drives Me Wild" and "Can't Let Her Get Away"). I skip "Heal the World" sometimes, lol. It's a great album but it does have some weaklings in some variations.

Timmy84 said:

I love "She Drives Me Wild"

Timmy84 said:

Heal The World totally embarrasses itself in the face of Will You Be There, and the album really only needed one song like that.

I agree a few of the raps needed to go. And as much as I adore Keep The Faith, it doesn't fit particularly well.

Gone Too Soon seriously needs to take a hike. could have just been a one-off single when Ryan White died or something.

as i just told a friend through msn messenger, show me an album over 50 minutes and i'll show you some filler

Cinnie said:

It's the raps. Plus what the fuck was Michael saying?

I do admit, I can dance to it tho and his harmonies are exquisite.

speaking of raps on the Dangerous album... why didn't he get a high profile rapper to do the one in "Black Or White"... it's Bill Bottrell on there, isn't it?

errant said:

I agree. And yeah Will You Be There OWNS the other ballads.

errant said:

He should have asked Vanilla Ice.

errant said:

Yeah that's a mystery. He got Heavy D for "Jam" but couldn't get another one for "Black or White"? I had to be honest when I first heard the song, I thought Special Ed (that was actually a rapper's stage name believe it or not!) was on it but when I saw the name LTB and later knowing it was Bill Bottrell's rapping stage name, I was like "Who the fuck is a Bill Bottrell? "

Timmy84 said:

I actually can co-sign all the criticisms made. If all of those haircuts were made, I could probably listen to Dangerous in one sitting uninterrupted.

Timmy84 said:

you know whats is the mojo in the pocket? right

Cinnie said:

True, lol.

seeingvoices12 said:

I know that but what about "hot in the face, shocktasy"?

"You know damn well what I mean", like fuck no, MiJac!

Timmy84 said:

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