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PrintableAlexdeParis said: DigitalGardin said: I gotta be honest, Jermaine is my fav Jackson, but I would lose respect for him if all of a sudden NOW he decides to put out a CD just because Michael died
 Why? It could be his way of dealing with the death. Maybe he could realize that music is what he loves and he should do it while he still can. Who knows what his reasons would be? Personally, I think he should wait a bit and don't jump on the bandwagon now. | |
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daPrettyman said: unique said: it wasn't that bad was it? No, it was that good. It was well sung. Jermaine was after all, the Jackon's second best singer. | |
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DigitalGardin said: I gotta be honest, Jermaine is my fav Jackson, but I would lose respect for him if all of a sudden NOW he decides to put out a CD just because Michael died
considering he hasn't released anything since 91 i think, i doubt he has anything ready for release, so it would take time to put together a half decent album to release. if a greatest hits compilation came out it would be a record company decision rather than his motown have already released another compilation of mj already, which i'd never heard a peep about before he died, announced for release the day after he died as for smile, it was hardly an earth shattering performance. overcome with emotion during the live ceromony it may have stood out, but for a piece of music on it's own it was on the same par as most of the performances on american idol. if he gets a record deal because of the performance, it's simply to capatilise on the moment, rather than his vocal talent, and i'm not trying to put down his voice | |
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AlexdeParis said: DigitalGardin said: I gotta be honest, Jermaine is my fav Jackson, but I would lose respect for him if all of a sudden NOW he decides to put out a CD just because Michael died
Why? It could be his way of dealing with the death. Maybe he could realize that music is what he loves and he should do it while he still can. Who knows what his reasons would be? You know what, Im not trying to be funny, like I said, Jermaine has always been my fav Jackson but I find his greif over MJ's death "interesting." Now I remember in the early 90's when WORDD TO THE BAD came out..he was criticizing MJ harshly. Eveeryone knows that they bumped heads quite often in the 80's over both of their over inflated egos. I know that many yrs have come and gone since WORDD TO THE BAD was out and I do recall Jermaine STAUNCHLY defending MJ during his first molestation trial on the early 90's but I dont wanna hear a Jermaine Jackson album consisting of his greif of Michael...sorry. Id rather hear him remake YOU LIKE ME DONT YOU and COME TO ME ONE WAY...  | |
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DigitalGardin said: AlexdeParis said: Why? It could be his way of dealing with the death. Maybe he could realize that music is what he loves and he should do it while he still can. Who knows what his reasons would be? You know what, Im not trying to be funny, like I said, Jermaine has always been my fav Jackson but I find his greif over MJ's death "interesting." Now I remember in the early 90's when WORDD TO THE BAD came out..he was criticizing MJ harshly. Eveeryone knows that they bumped heads quite often in the 80's over both of their over inflated egos. I know that many yrs have come and gone since WORDD TO THE BAD was out and I do recall Jermaine STAUNCHLY defending MJ during his first molestation trial on the early 90's but I dont wanna hear a Jermaine Jackson album consisting of his greif of Michael...sorry. Id rather hear him remake YOU LIKE ME DONT YOU and COME TO ME ONE WAY... I'm not saying it'd be about his grief over Michael, I'm saying it'd be a way to cope with his grief. That's what a lot of people do when they're grieving: try to get back to work. "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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DigitalGardin said: AlexdeParis said: Why? It could be his way of dealing with the death. Maybe he could realize that music is what he loves and he should do it while he still can. Who knows what his reasons would be? You know what, Im not trying to be funny, like I said, Jermaine has always been my fav Jackson but I find his greif over MJ's death "interesting." Now I remember in the early 90's when WORDD TO THE BAD came out..he was criticizing MJ harshly. Eveeryone knows that they bumped heads quite often in the 80's over both of their over inflated egos. I know that many yrs have come and gone since WORDD TO THE BAD was out and I do recall Jermaine STAUNCHLY defending MJ during his first molestation trial on the early 90's but I dont wanna hear a Jermaine Jackson album consisting of his greif of Michael...sorry. Id rather hear him remake YOU LIKE ME DONT YOU and COME TO ME ONE WAY... agreed  Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
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"but like I said, who the fuck could name one of hits without looking it up on the internet?"
Ummm....I did. And just about everyone else on here. Again Jermaine has had a lot of hits throughout the 80's. And when he reunited with his brothers for the "Victory" tour, it really brought him back to the spotlight. People were glad to see all of the brothers on that tour. At this point I could really care less if he comes back or not. But if he does something, then good for him and his fans. | |
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SPYZFAN1 said: "but like I said, who the fuck could name one of hits without looking it up on the internet?"
Ummm....I did. And just about everyone else on here. Again Jermaine has had a lot of hits throughout the 80's. And when he reunited with his brothers for the "Victory" tour, it really brought him back to the spotlight. People were glad to see all of the brothers on that tour. At this point I could really care less if he comes back or not. But if he does something, then good for him and his fans. most people know quite a few songs by Jermaine, they just dont realize it..thats not Jermaine's fault that people's attention span lasts less than a minute.. | |
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SPYZFAN1 said: "but like I said, who the fuck could name one of hits without looking it up on the internet?"
Ummm....I did. And just about everyone else on here. Again Jermaine has had a lot of hits throughout the 80's. And when he reunited with his brothers for the "Victory" tour, it really brought him back to the spotlight. People were glad to see all of the brothers on that tour. At this point I could really care less if he comes back or not. But if he does something, then good for him and his fans. DigitalGardin said: SPYZFAN1 said: "but like I said, who the fuck could name one of hits without looking it up on the internet?"
Ummm....I did. And just about everyone else on here. Again Jermaine has had a lot of hits throughout the 80's. And when he reunited with his brothers for the "Victory" tour, it really brought him back to the spotlight. People were glad to see all of the brothers on that tour. At this point I could really care less if he comes back or not. But if he does something, then good for him and his fans. most people know quite a few songs by Jermaine, they just dont realize it..thats not Jermaine's fault that people's attention span lasts less than a minute.. victory was 25 years ago, and long forgetten about by most people. don't you guys realise this is the year 2009? normal people don't remember songs that far back unless they are played regularly on radio, tv or in movies. you guys are fanatics, which is why you know this stuff, unless you just googled it up | |
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unique said: midnightmover said: Actually Jermaine had two Top 10 hits in the UK. "Do What You Do" and "Let's Get Serious". So you were wrong. If you want to reclaim some dignity the best thing you can do is put your hands up, admit you were talking about something you know nothing about, and move on. well in between all the rest i forgot what i said in the first place. but like i said, who the fuck could name one of his hits without looking it up on the internet. certainly no-one who has a life outside of world of warcraft or neverland. i bet more people could name a milli vanilli single Well, if he wasn't popular in the UK then so be it. In the r&b market in the US we remember him fondly, he had some great songs that played on our radios non-stop back in the day, and he could be welcomed with open arms for our 40+ niche market. As long as our older artists want to tour, we have longstanding, tradtional concert outlets and superfests that draw tens of thousands to keep them working and connected. It's a shame you don't seem to have anything respectable in place for older musicians wherever you're from  | |
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Hey dude..YOU were the one that came on here and made a big deal on why Jermaine couldn't make a comeback. I just answered the question of "what now" and what he could do. And I respectfully replied to your statements.
You were the one that didn't believe he had hits and that no one wanted to hear him (or any artist over 50)...didn't P just turn 51? You were the one that got defensive, used profanity and got hostile when everyone else corrected the misinformation you posted and then later said you never said it or forgot. And yes I love music..all kinds of music..but I'm a fanatic of no-one. And being a musician I've accepted that good music is good music and bad is bad. Maybe because you live out in the U.K. you missed out on some things in terms of music or videos, etc...you know, constant airplay and video runs like here in the U.S...I know soemtimes in Europe they run full concerts on TV that we don't get here. Maybe you weren't born or alive during that time that the J5 or The Jacksons were on top of the rock in the 70's or when MJ ruled the airwaves and MTV in the early 80's...(and yeah Jermaine and Janet got theirs in too). We can all agree to disagree, and we don't all have to like the same artists or the same music. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. ..but if you're going to post something on the org, be sure to have the facts straight or something to back it up. Because folks here will call you out (or correct you) if you're disrespectful or wrong. and unique I have no problem with you personally..the org is a great place to learn new things....As far as it goes with this topic, I'm through talking about it. I'm going to rehearsal and to enjoy the rest of this sunny warm day. | |
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SPYZFAN1 said: Hey dude..YOU were the one that came on here and made a big deal on why Jermaine couldn't make a comeback. I just answered the question of "what now" and what he could do. And I respectfully replied to your statements.
You were the one that didn't believe he had hits and that no one wanted to hear him (or any artist over 50)...didn't P just turn 51? You were the one that got defensive, used profanity and got hostile when everyone else corrected the misinformation you posted and then later said you never said it or forgot. And yes I love music..all kinds of music..but I'm a fanatic of no-one. And being a musician I've accepted that good music is good music and bad is bad. Maybe because you live out in the U.K. you missed out on some things in terms of music or videos, etc...you know, constant airplay and video runs like here in the U.S...I know soemtimes in Europe they run full concerts on TV that we don't get here. Maybe you weren't born or alive during that time that the J5 or The Jacksons were on top of the rock in the 70's or when MJ ruled the airwaves and MTV in the early 80's...(and yeah Jermaine and Janet got theirs in too). We can all agree to disagree, and we don't all have to like the same artists or the same music. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. ..but if you're going to post something on the org, be sure to have the facts straight or something to back it up. Because folks here will call you out (or correct you) if you're disrespectful or wrong. and unique I have no problem with you personally..the org is a great place to learn new things....As far as it goes with this topic, I'm through talking about it. I'm going to rehearsal and to enjoy the rest of this sunny warm day. it's jermaine jackson, so most certainly not a topic to make a big thing about. i'm just typing on the keyboard and posting my thoughts, views and facts, and a make a point of getting my facts right, and having 2 hit singles in the uk almost 30 years ago is no reason to have a comeback tour in the uk the problem is that certain jackson fanatics are making the jacksons out to be something far more than they are, and it's understandable to some degree, which is why i point out the truth and facts to try and bring people back down to planet earth and discuss the topics rationally before MJ died there was a long continuous thread that was appended a few times, and in that i said he wouldn't play the o2, i said he had no inclination to do so, i said he wasn't fit enough to do so, and made many other comments that were put down by MJ fanatics that were too blinkered to see the truth, but strangely, coincidentally, or whatever way you want to put it, my words have been proven correct and backed up by multiple stories since. it's like i knew deep down inside myself the truth and spoke my mind, and i was right i don't usually speak that way, i'll usually joke, and i'll usually speak very factually about things, particularly music, and at times people won't believe me, but i don't give two shits about that, and i use profanity not because i can't articulate myself well, but i opt not to omit words from the english language, and i opt to use all available words to myslelf, and at times certain words are appropriate to highlight feeling, emotion, or to shock, and that's not the end of the reasons for choice of words but when i speak about music, i spreak passionately as music is the blood that runs between my bones, it's the thing that interests and drives me the most, and the subject that i know the most about, and belive me i've forgotten more about music that most people would ever know. i don't know anyone on the planet who has a larger collection of music than myself, and i like many styles of music, and i'm a big fan of many artists and have completist collections and knowledge of many artists, so when i speak about music, it's not just from the heart, but it's from knowledge and experience. at times i'll take the piss, but it's usually fairly obvious that's the case to anyone but a blinkered fanatic with no sense of humour. music is a for of entertainment, and so is comedy, so the two things fit together as far as i'm concerned, music isn't a solemn religion, even if you followed bowie, lou, iggy and the stones in the early 70s you surely knew the importance was all self importance and not to be taken seriously here we are talking about someone who was in a pop band in the 70s, who is more well known for having a famous brother than any personal acheivements. his brother was merely a singer and dancer who was lucky to hit the big time, but the personal achievements weren't on par with those from the likes of mother teresa, ghandi, martin luther king, malcolm x, or albert einstein. he sang songs that people danced to, and had a paricularly shady personal life, he can't be compared to great men like nelson mandela, bill gates or malcolm x, he was simply an entertainer like elvis, sinatra or james brown. they were great entertainers, but in the perspective of the world, they may be remembered for a long time like beethoven, mozart or debussi, but the memories and importance will fade through time. jermaine's involvement can be likened to the lead violinist when mozart premiered his music, an important historic event, but can you name that person? | |
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SPYZFAN1 said: Hey dude..YOU were the one that came on here and made a big deal on why Jermaine couldn't make a comeback. I just answered the question of "what now" and what he could do. And I respectfully replied to your statements.
You were the one that didn't believe he had hits and that no one wanted to hear him (or any artist over 50)...didn't P just turn 51? You were the one that got defensive, used profanity and got hostile when everyone else corrected the misinformation you posted and then later said you never said it or forgot. And yes I love music..all kinds of music..but I'm a fanatic of no-one. And being a musician I've accepted that good music is good music and bad is bad. Maybe because you live out in the U.K. you missed out on some things in terms of music or videos, etc...you know, constant airplay and video runs like here in the U.S...I know soemtimes in Europe they run full concerts on TV that we don't get here. Maybe you weren't born or alive during that time that the J5 or The Jacksons were on top of the rock in the 70's or when MJ ruled the airwaves and MTV in the early 80's...(and yeah Jermaine and Janet got theirs in too). We can all agree to disagree, and we don't all have to like the same artists or the same music. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. ..but if you're going to post something on the org, be sure to have the facts straight or something to back it up. Because folks here will call you out (or correct you) if you're disrespectful or wrong. and unique I have no problem with you personally..the org is a great place to learn new things....As far as it goes with this topic, I'm through talking about it. I'm going to rehearsal and to enjoy the rest of this sunny warm day. when the Jacksons left Motown they were considered a washed up boy band. no one really thought they'd have much success as a bad let alone MJ as a solo singer. i think people tend to look back at the time between 75-79 with rose colored glasses. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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Yeah the Jackson 5 were considered has-beens when they finally left Motown in 1975. They struggled for three years before they returned with success with 1978's "Destiny". They tried a variety show (that bombed), two albums did only modestly well in the pop/R&B genres in both America and overseas and MJ's first (and only) attempt as a co-star of a major film bombed (despite "The Wiz" and its later cult buzz). It wasn't until Destiny and Off the Wall that found Michael and the Jacksons back on top but the Jacksons' own career didn't have a good shelf life either. After another great album (1980's Triumph), they were already being overshadowed by Michael. Jermaine never got noticed because Motown didn't know what to do with him and it wasn't until Stevie worked with him that he got somewhere for a bit. Somehow the media never knew how to take most of the Jacksons' records after Thriller, only Janet seemed to find a way because she was a young woman of ambition and she went the different route to get the success she got and in a way was out of MJ's shadow but the other Jacksons struggled to find their voice. I just don't know how they're gonna handle their careers, least of all, Jermaine. | |
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ehuffnsd said: SPYZFAN1 said: Hey dude..YOU were the one that came on here and made a big deal on why Jermaine couldn't make a comeback. I just answered the question of "what now" and what he could do. And I respectfully replied to your statements.
You were the one that didn't believe he had hits and that no one wanted to hear him (or any artist over 50)...didn't P just turn 51? You were the one that got defensive, used profanity and got hostile when everyone else corrected the misinformation you posted and then later said you never said it or forgot. And yes I love music..all kinds of music..but I'm a fanatic of no-one. And being a musician I've accepted that good music is good music and bad is bad. Maybe because you live out in the U.K. you missed out on some things in terms of music or videos, etc...you know, constant airplay and video runs like here in the U.S...I know soemtimes in Europe they run full concerts on TV that we don't get here. Maybe you weren't born or alive during that time that the J5 or The Jacksons were on top of the rock in the 70's or when MJ ruled the airwaves and MTV in the early 80's...(and yeah Jermaine and Janet got theirs in too). We can all agree to disagree, and we don't all have to like the same artists or the same music. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. ..but if you're going to post something on the org, be sure to have the facts straight or something to back it up. Because folks here will call you out (or correct you) if you're disrespectful or wrong. and unique I have no problem with you personally..the org is a great place to learn new things....As far as it goes with this topic, I'm through talking about it. I'm going to rehearsal and to enjoy the rest of this sunny warm day. when the Jacksons left Motown they were considered a washed up boy band. no one really thought they'd have much success as a bad let alone MJ as a solo singer. i think people tend to look back at the time between 75-79 with rose colored glasses. Some probably do, but after they left Motown, their career started to take off. They were not a huge crossover act, but they did well on the r&b/soul side of music. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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daPrettyman said: ehuffnsd said: when the Jacksons left Motown they were considered a washed up boy band. no one really thought they'd have much success as a bad let alone MJ as a solo singer. i think people tend to look back at the time between 75-79 with rose colored glasses. Some probably do, but after they left Motown, their career started to take off. They were not a huge crossover act, but they did well on the r&b/soul side of music. 1976: "Enjoy Yourself" (#6 pop, #2 R&B) 1977: "Show You the Way to Go" (#28 pop, #6 R&B, #1 UK) 1978: "Blame It on the Boogie" (#3 R&B, #8 UK) 1978: "Shake Your Body (Down to the Ground)" (#7 pop, #4 R&B, #3 UK) - not sure if that's right 1980: "Lovely One" (#12 pop, #2 R&B, #29 UK) 1980: "Heartbreak Hotel" (#22 pop, #2 R&B) 1981: "Can You Feel It?" (#6 UK) 1981: "Walk Right Now" (#7 UK) 1984: "State of Shock" (#4 pop, #3 R&B) 1984: "Torture" (#17 pop, #7 R&B) 1984: "Body" (#39 R&B) 1989: "Nothin' That Compares to You" (#4 R&B) 1989: "2300 Jackson Street" (#9 R&B) Yeah they had a decent run... in fact even the Jackson 5 with all their hits, almost matches up to the Jacksons' strangely enough. [Edited 7/11/09 13:56pm] | |
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Timmy84 said: daPrettyman said: Some probably do, but after they left Motown, their career started to take off. They were not a huge crossover act, but they did well on the r&b/soul side of music. 1976: "Enjoy Yourself" (#6 pop, #2 R&B) 1977: "Show You the Way to Go" (#28 pop, #6 R&B, #2 UK) 1978: "Shake Your Body (Down to the Ground)" (#7 pop, #4 R&B, #3 UK) - not sure if that's right 1980: "Lovely One" (#12 pop, #2 R&B) 1980: "Heartbreak Hotel" (#22 pop, #2 R&B) 1981: "Can You Feel It?" (#6 UK) 1981: "Walk Right Now" (#7 UK) 1984: "State of Shock" (#4 pop, #3 R&B) 1984: "Torture" (#17 pop, #7 R&B) 1989: "2300 Jackson Street" (#9 R&B) "Show You the Way to Go" was actually #1 UK. You also forgot "Blame It on the Boogie" [#3 R&B, #8 UK] and "Nothin' (That Compares 2 U)" [#4 R&B]. "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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AlexdeParis said: Timmy84 said: 1976: "Enjoy Yourself" (#6 pop, #2 R&B) 1977: "Show You the Way to Go" (#28 pop, #6 R&B, #2 UK) 1978: "Shake Your Body (Down to the Ground)" (#7 pop, #4 R&B, #3 UK) - not sure if that's right 1980: "Lovely One" (#12 pop, #2 R&B) 1980: "Heartbreak Hotel" (#22 pop, #2 R&B) 1981: "Can You Feel It?" (#6 UK) 1981: "Walk Right Now" (#7 UK) 1984: "State of Shock" (#4 pop, #3 R&B) 1984: "Torture" (#17 pop, #7 R&B) 1989: "2300 Jackson Street" (#9 R&B) "Show You the Way to Go" was actually #1 UK. You also forgot "Blame It on the Boogie" [#3 R&B, #8 UK] and "Nothin' (That Compares 2 U)" [#4 R&B]. I knew I made a mistake or two, lol. | |
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unique said: SPYZFAN1 said: Hey dude..YOU were the one that came on here and made a big deal on why Jermaine couldn't make a comeback. I just answered the question of "what now" and what he could do. And I respectfully replied to your statements.
You were the one that didn't believe he had hits and that no one wanted to hear him (or any artist over 50)...didn't P just turn 51? You were the one that got defensive, used profanity and got hostile when everyone else corrected the misinformation you posted and then later said you never said it or forgot. And yes I love music..all kinds of music..but I'm a fanatic of no-one. And being a musician I've accepted that good music is good music and bad is bad. Maybe because you live out in the U.K. you missed out on some things in terms of music or videos, etc...you know, constant airplay and video runs like here in the U.S...I know soemtimes in Europe they run full concerts on TV that we don't get here. Maybe you weren't born or alive during that time that the J5 or The Jacksons were on top of the rock in the 70's or when MJ ruled the airwaves and MTV in the early 80's...(and yeah Jermaine and Janet got theirs in too). We can all agree to disagree, and we don't all have to like the same artists or the same music. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. ..but if you're going to post something on the org, be sure to have the facts straight or something to back it up. Because folks here will call you out (or correct you) if you're disrespectful or wrong. and unique I have no problem with you personally..the org is a great place to learn new things....As far as it goes with this topic, I'm through talking about it. I'm going to rehearsal and to enjoy the rest of this sunny warm day. it's jermaine jackson, so most certainly not a topic to make a big thing about. i'm just typing on the keyboard and posting my thoughts, views and facts, and a make a point of getting my facts right, and having 2 hit singles in the uk almost 30 years ago is no reason to have a comeback tour in the uk the problem is that certain jackson fanatics are making the jacksons out to be something far more than they are, and it's understandable to some degree, which is why i point out the truth and facts to try and bring people back down to planet earth and discuss the topics rationally before MJ died there was a long continuous thread that was appended a few times, and in that i said he wouldn't play the o2, i said he had no inclination to do so, i said he wasn't fit enough to do so, and made many other comments that were put down by MJ fanatics that were too blinkered to see the truth, but strangely, coincidentally, or whatever way you want to put it, my words have been proven correct and backed up by multiple stories since. it's like i knew deep down inside myself the truth and spoke my mind, and i was right i don't usually speak that way, i'll usually joke, and i'll usually speak very factually about things, particularly music, and at times people won't believe me, but i don't give two shits about that, and i use profanity not because i can't articulate myself well, but i opt not to omit words from the english language, and i opt to use all available words to myslelf, and at times certain words are appropriate to highlight feeling, emotion, or to shock, and that's not the end of the reasons for choice of words but when i speak about music, i spreak passionately as music is the blood that runs between my bones, it's the thing that interests and drives me the most, and the subject that i know the most about, and belive me i've forgotten more about music that most people would ever know. i don't know anyone on the planet who has a larger collection of music than myself, and i like many styles of music, and i'm a big fan of many artists and have completist collections and knowledge of many artists, so when i speak about music, it's not just from the heart, but it's from knowledge and experience. at times i'll take the piss, but it's usually fairly obvious that's the case to anyone but a blinkered fanatic with no sense of humour. music is a for of entertainment, and so is comedy, so the two things fit together as far as i'm concerned, music isn't a solemn religion, even if you followed bowie, lou, iggy and the stones in the early 70s you surely knew the importance was all self importance and not to be taken seriously here we are talking about someone who was in a pop band in the 70s, who is more well known for having a famous brother than any personal acheivements. his brother was merely a singer and dancer who was lucky to hit the big time, but the personal achievements weren't on par with those from the likes of mother teresa, ghandi, martin luther king, malcolm x, or albert einstein. he sang songs that people danced to, and had a paricularly shady personal life, he can't be compared to great men like nelson mandela, bill gates or malcolm x, he was simply an entertainer like elvis, sinatra or james brown. they were great entertainers, but in the perspective of the world, they may be remembered for a long time like beethoven, mozart or debussi, but the memories and importance will fade through time. jermaine's involvement can be likened to the lead violinist when mozart premiered his music, an important historic event, but can you name that person? Truth and facts? You said Jermaine had no hits, no ego and had never had plastic surgery. These are plain falsehoods. You clearly know as little about him as you do about MJ. Your statements about MJ's lack of commitment and fitness for the 02 shows were of course correct, but anyone with a brain knew that! It was only the MJ loons who couldn't see it. Being more clear-sighted than MJ loons is not much of an accomplishment. That's like boasting about being taller than a dwarf! “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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midnightmover said: unique said: it's jermaine jackson, so most certainly not a topic to make a big thing about. i'm just typing on the keyboard and posting my thoughts, views and facts, and a make a point of getting my facts right, and having 2 hit singles in the uk almost 30 years ago is no reason to have a comeback tour in the uk the problem is that certain jackson fanatics are making the jacksons out to be something far more than they are, and it's understandable to some degree, which is why i point out the truth and facts to try and bring people back down to planet earth and discuss the topics rationally before MJ died there was a long continuous thread that was appended a few times, and in that i said he wouldn't play the o2, i said he had no inclination to do so, i said he wasn't fit enough to do so, and made many other comments that were put down by MJ fanatics that were too blinkered to see the truth, but strangely, coincidentally, or whatever way you want to put it, my words have been proven correct and backed up by multiple stories since. it's like i knew deep down inside myself the truth and spoke my mind, and i was right i don't usually speak that way, i'll usually joke, and i'll usually speak very factually about things, particularly music, and at times people won't believe me, but i don't give two shits about that, and i use profanity not because i can't articulate myself well, but i opt not to omit words from the english language, and i opt to use all available words to myslelf, and at times certain words are appropriate to highlight feeling, emotion, or to shock, and that's not the end of the reasons for choice of words but when i speak about music, i spreak passionately as music is the blood that runs between my bones, it's the thing that interests and drives me the most, and the subject that i know the most about, and belive me i've forgotten more about music that most people would ever know. i don't know anyone on the planet who has a larger collection of music than myself, and i like many styles of music, and i'm a big fan of many artists and have completist collections and knowledge of many artists, so when i speak about music, it's not just from the heart, but it's from knowledge and experience. at times i'll take the piss, but it's usually fairly obvious that's the case to anyone but a blinkered fanatic with no sense of humour. music is a for of entertainment, and so is comedy, so the two things fit together as far as i'm concerned, music isn't a solemn religion, even if you followed bowie, lou, iggy and the stones in the early 70s you surely knew the importance was all self importance and not to be taken seriously here we are talking about someone who was in a pop band in the 70s, who is more well known for having a famous brother than any personal acheivements. his brother was merely a singer and dancer who was lucky to hit the big time, but the personal achievements weren't on par with those from the likes of mother teresa, ghandi, martin luther king, malcolm x, or albert einstein. he sang songs that people danced to, and had a paricularly shady personal life, he can't be compared to great men like nelson mandela, bill gates or malcolm x, he was simply an entertainer like elvis, sinatra or james brown. they were great entertainers, but in the perspective of the world, they may be remembered for a long time like beethoven, mozart or debussi, but the memories and importance will fade through time. jermaine's involvement can be likened to the lead violinist when mozart premiered his music, an important historic event, but can you name that person? Truth and facts? You said Jermaine had no hits, no ego and had never had plastic surgery. These are plain falsehoods. You clearly know as little about him as you do about MJ. Your statements about MJ's lack of commitment and fitness for the 02 shows were of course correct, but anyone with a brain knew that! It was only the MJ loons who couldn't see it. Being more clear-sighted than MJ loons is not much of an accomplishment. That's like boasting about being taller than a dwarf! excuse me for not being 100% factually accurate about jermaine jackson, who had hits that i didn't know about, and who could blame me, and plastic surgery i didn't know about, being a person who could care less. who gives a fuck apart from yourself? | |
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unique said: midnightmover said: Truth and facts? You said Jermaine had no hits, no ego and had never had plastic surgery. These are plain falsehoods. You clearly know as little about him as you do about MJ. Your statements about MJ's lack of commitment and fitness for the 02 shows were of course correct, but anyone with a brain knew that! It was only the MJ loons who couldn't see it. Being more clear-sighted than MJ loons is not much of an accomplishment. That's like boasting about being taller than a dwarf! excuse me for not being 100% factually accurate about jermaine jackson, who had hits that i didn't know about, and who could blame me, and plastic surgery i didn't know about, being a person who could care less. who gives a fuck apart from yourself? You repeatedly claim not to care about the subject, yet you've posted far, far more than anyone else in this thread. You sure devote a hell of a lot of time to things you don't care about. I don't mind people being critical, but it's obvious you've come into this thread with an attitude. Your comments have almost all been irrelevant and spiteful. No one is saying Jermaine is going to change the course of musical history. Since when does something have to be earth shattering in order for it to have value? To us he's just a guy with a brilliant voice. We want to hear the voice again and maybe it could happen. What exactly is the problem? “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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I'm on Jermaine high right now! 
He's officially my fav. Jackson (Sorry, Janet )
I love his early funk recordings! | |
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midnightmover said: unique said: excuse me for not being 100% factually accurate about jermaine jackson, who had hits that i didn't know about, and who could blame me, and plastic surgery i didn't know about, being a person who could care less. who gives a fuck apart from yourself? You repeatedly claim not to care about the subject, yet you've posted far, far more than anyone else in this thread. You sure devote a hell of a lot of time to things you don't care about. I don't mind people being critical, but it's obvious you've come into this thread with an attitude. Your comments have almost all been irrelevant and spiteful. No one is saying Jermaine is going to change the course of musical history. Since when does something have to be earth shattering in order for it to have value? To us he's just a guy with a brilliant voice. We want to hear the voice again and maybe it could happen. What exactly is the problem? well i started with a joke, as i didn't think anyone else would have given two shits about him, but as it turned more serious i gave a serious reply on what he should really do. the telly is shite, the chatroom is dead, and the replies show up in my post history, thus i reply. it's at least a subject i have some interest about, otherwise i wouldn't have posted in the first place, even if i do have plenty of time on my hands, i don't bother with things i have no interest in. the guy doesn't have a shit voice, and based on his appearance on big brother, he seems a geniunely nice guy, but he's just not going to have a hit solo career, but a jacksons reunion would be his best bet | |
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midiscover said: I'm on Jermaine high right now!
He's officially my fav. Jackson (Sorry, Janet )
I love his early funk recordings! your fav Jackson? More than Mike? | |
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graecophilos said: midiscover said: I'm on Jermaine high right now!
He's officially my fav. Jackson (Sorry, Janet )
I love his early funk recordings! your fav Jackson? More than Mike? Janet was her favorite, lol. | |
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SPYZFAN1 said: 1) Hits..
"Let's Get Young Tonight" "Let's Get Serious" "Tell Me I'm Not Dreaming" "Let Me Tickle Your Fancy" "Do What You Do" "Don't Take It Personal" "Dynamite" "Daddy's Home" - (remake) ..and I know there's a few more I've forgotten 2) Who said Randy had to have a sex change to be one of the back up singers? I never said that. I said bring him along. 3) Working with the new producers seemed to help Lionel (60 yrs old)..and I will admit his new music is crap but he's still out there. Madonna??? ..Hello!!???!!.. ..51 this year..The music she's put out in the last 11 years (with all the cutting edge producers) has still kept her out there. Age ain't nothin' but a #. 4) From what I can recall (and I'm showing my age) Jermaine had his slew of fans..All the dudes I knew wanted to play bass because of him and all the girls I knew were pissed when he married Ms. Gordy..This is when they still were the J5. At one point, Jermaine was considered the "sex symbol" of the J5. 5) Oh yeah he's got an ego. All that trash he said about Micheal in the early 90's was pretty much out of resentment. He even wrote that stupid song "Word 2 The Badd". Once he started getting hit with lawsuits and divorce papers by his ex (Ms. Maldonado?) later on in that decade,that stopped all the trash talk. 6) Man please..He's had plastic surgery. Stevie Wonder could see that. Those fake cheekbone implants that just came out of nowhere in the mid 80's? Yes he's had work done. Samuel Jackson??...Dude please. You're really looking for attention. Why do the Jacksons always get accused of getting cheek implants? Just look at pictures of them in their youth, they all just naturally have very prominent cheekbones. Its a Jackson trait. Or would people think all 9 Jackson kids got cheek implants in 1969? How dumb can people be | |
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J wrote and produced all of his Motown tracks post J5 and pre-Let's Get Serious right? Weird considering that's why his bros left the label. PRINCE: Always and Forever
MICHAEL JACKSON: Always and Forever ----- Live Your Life How U Wanna Live It | |
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Jermaine probably doesnt work because he doesnt want to pay child support. He's been dodging it for a while.
RIP Michael Jackson (I hope you were loved personally at sometime) | |
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