utopia7 said: Swa said: PATERNITY is irrelevant. Where they his kids biologically or not - doesn't matter.
The whole issue was settled when Paris spoke from the heart. "Ever since I was born, Daddy has been the best father you could ever imagine." To these kids Michael WAS and FOREVER will be THEIR FATHER. To squabble back and forward over who is the father, who is the mother, ultimately means nothing. Anyone can create a child, it takes a real parent to raise them. My heart goes out to MJ's three kids cause their world has lost more than the rest, they have lost their father - a true loving connection that goes beyond questions of bloodlines and DNA. Swa I absolutely agree but if the courts even think for a second that Joe will try and get the kids in the business ..it just won't look to good right now.And the kids are making it clear who they feel comfortable with so all will be well.I hope the judicial system can be strange at times. but debbie could be saying otherwise and all the while this be her agenda too.... LOVE HARD. | |
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maybe the nanny should get the kids. I mean she's been the only OTHER parent they've known. | |
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DesireeNevermind said: maybe the nanny should get the kids. I mean she's been the only OTHER parent they've known.
well if she was let go in December by Mr.Jackson then maybe he felt they were past the age of needing a nanny. I do think for stability and structure it would be nice to keep her on to help with the children.But should she have total custody I don't think so, I don't think he totally trusted that much or else she would've been named in his arrangements. | |
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utopia7 said: Swa said: PATERNITY is irrelevant. Where they his kids biologically or not - doesn't matter.
The whole issue was settled when Paris spoke from the heart. "Ever since I was born, Daddy has been the best father you could ever imagine." To these kids Michael WAS and FOREVER will be THEIR FATHER. To squabble back and forward over who is the father, who is the mother, ultimately means nothing. Anyone can create a child, it takes a real parent to raise them. My heart goes out to MJ's three kids cause their world has lost more than the rest, they have lost their father - a true loving connection that goes beyond questions of bloodlines and DNA. Swa I absolutely agree but if the courts even think for a second that Joe will try and get the kids in the business ..it just won't look to good right now.And the kids are making it clear who they feel comfortable with so all will be well.I hope the judicial system can be strange at times. I wasn't addressing who should have the children from here on - in my opinion Michael's wishes should be honoured (to be with Katherine *alone*). My post was more in the endless back on forth on here about his paternity of the kids. At the end of the day if they are his or not doesn't change the fact that they loved him and for every day of their life he loved and cared for them. Swa [Edited 7/11/09 19:50pm] "I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love" | |
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EmeraldSkies said: Copycat said: Neverland Burial For Michael Jackson Still a Possibility July 2009 Michael Jackson’s burial may be allowed to take place at Neverland, pending an application process and the approval of Santa Barbara county officials, CNN reports. While the Jackson family has not yet approached country officials about the request, CNN writes that a Jackson family lawyer contacted officials about the possibility of burying the singer at his famed Neverland Ranch. Under California law, it is illegal to bury a body at a private residence. However, by filling out a two-page application and paying a $400 fee, the law can be circumvented pending the approval of county officials. It was previously believed that Jackson’s family was planning to bury the singer at Hollywood Hills’ Forest Lawn Cemetery, but instead that was just the site of Jackson’s private memorial service and open casket viewing. Reports are that while Jermaine Jackson wants to bury his brother at Neverland, father Joe Jackson is against it. There is some precedent in a private land burial, thanks to a former President: California native Ronald Reagan was buried at his Presidential Library in Venture County. However, a request to be buried on private land has never been filed in Santa Barbara County. As we previously noted in our examination of Neverland’s life after Jackson, even if the family elected to bury Jackson at his former home, the quiet county of Santa Barbara might be reluctant to allow the Ranch to be turned into a tourist destination like a West Coast version of Elvis Presley’s Graceland. Also, there’s the question of who really controls Neverland now, since Jackson signed the deed of the Ranch over to billionaire Tom Barrack Jr. as the singer struggled with debt. Barrack said the property’s future would be discussed at a later date. The mayor of Gary, Indiana, the Jackson 5’s hometown, has already opened the door and publicly lobbied for the Jacksons to make Michael’s resting place in the Indiana city. Mayor Rudy Clay’s plan would also include the construction of a Jackson family museum in Gary, as well as a performance arts center. Link Huh? :confused: I read another article that said that both Jermaine,and Joe were for the Neverland burial. Do you have a link to that other article? they better hurry and make up their mind, cuz the clock is ticking. I wonder if the attorney informed them of that? surely he would have..you'd think. this is the time of the first fast. | |
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Swa said: PATERNITY is irrelevant. Where they his kids biologically or not - doesn't matter.
The whole issue was settled when Paris spoke from the heart. "Ever since I was born, Daddy has been the best father you could ever imagine." To these kids Michael WAS and FOREVER will be THEIR FATHER. To squabble back and forward over who is the father, who is the mother, ultimately means nothing. Anyone can create a child, it takes a real parent to raise them. My heart goes out to MJ's three kids cause their world has lost more than the rest, they have lost their father - a true loving connection that goes beyond questions of bloodlines and DNA. Swa | |
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I think Neverland will end up being like Graceland. Not sure yet if that's a good or bad thing. | |
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DON’T STOP TIL YOU GET ENOUGH Written by Michael Jackson Produced by Michael Jackson and Quincy Jones Rhythm arrangement by Michael Jackson and Greg Philliganes Vocal and percussion arrangements by Michael Jackson Released- July 28, 1979 Michael had written the song in early 1978 and recorded the demo in the family home studio in Encino with brother, 17 year old Randy and sister 12 year old Janet assisting him on the music. Originally coming with the concept while in the kitchen and couldn’t shake it off. He had his brother Randy play the melody on the piano. Michael’s mother, Katherine was taken aback by the lyrical content but was reassured by Michael that it wasn’t a reference to sex. The song is abit reminiscent of Enjoy Yourself and Shake Your Body Down To The Ground in terms of lyrical content and meaning, but Don’t Stop stands miles ahead of both. From the minimalist bassline to the rhythm guitar sounding is if it is chopping at the song’s melody. It also remiscient of the Wall of Sound recordings. Greg Philliganes on the clavinet responding to the melody and the synth solo in the breakdown is a true highlight of the song. Performed on the 1979-1980 Destiny Tour, 1981 Triumph Tour. Michael included a part of the second verse while performing Shake Your Body (Down To The Ground) during the first leg of the Bad Tour. Was part of the Off The Wall medley during the first leg of the HIStory Tour Mixes Album Version 7’ Edit 7’ Edit without Intro Long/Extended Version Original 1978 Home Demo Recording Masters At Work Remix Roger’s Underground Club Solution CHART STATS Billboard Hot 100: #1 Billboard R&B: #1 (for 5 weeks) (#28 recurrent in Jan 09) Billboard Hot Airplay- #5 Billboard Hot Sales- #1 Billboard Dance Club Play- #2 UK- #3 (#17 in 2006) Australia- #1 (for 3 weeks) Austria- #11 Belgium- #2 Canada- #3 Denmark- #2 Finland- #6 France- #11 (#52 in 2006 and #54 in 2008) Germany- #13 Holland- #2 Ireland- #10 Italy- #16 (#6 in 2006) Japan- #82 New Zealand- #1 (for 4 weeks) Norway- #1 (for 2 weeks) South Africa- #1 (for 5 weeks) Spain- #6 (#2 in 2006) Sweden- #18 Switzerland- #4 Zimbabwe- #1 "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: DO NOT REPOST THIS ANYWHERE ELSE UNLESS YOU HAVE MY PERMISSION
DON’T STOP TIL YOU GET ENOUGH Written by Michael Jackson Produced by Michael Jackson and Quincy Jones Rhythm arrangement by Michael Jackson and Greg Philliganes Vocal and percussion arrangements by Michael Jackson Released- July 28, 1979 Michael had written the song in early 1978 and recorded the demo in the family home studio in Encino with brother, 17 year old Randy and sister 12 year old Janet assisting him on the music. Originally coming with the concept while in the kitchen and couldn’t shake it off. He had his brother Randy play the melody on the piano. Michael’s mother, Katherine was taken aback by the lyrical content but was reassured by Michael that it wasn’t a reference to sex. The song is abit reminiscent of Enjoy Yourself and Shake Your Body Down To The Ground in terms of lyrical content and meaning, but Don’t Stop stands miles ahead of both. From the minimalist bassline to the rhythm guitar sounding is if it is chopping at the song’s melody. It also remiscient of the Wall of Sound recordings. Greg Philliganes on the clavinet responding to the melody and the synth solo in the breakdown is a true highlight of the song. Performed on the 1979-1980 Destiny Tour, 1981 Triumph Tour. Michael included a part of the second verse while performing Shake Your Body (Down To The Ground) during the first leg of the Bad Tour. Was part of the Off The Wall medley during the first leg of the HIStory Tour Mixes Album Version 7’ Edit 7’ Edit without Intro Long/Extended Version Original 1978 Home Demo Recording Masters At Work Remix Roger’s Underground Club Solution CHART STATS Billboard Hot 100: #1 Billboard R&B: #1 (for 5 weeks) (#28 recurrent in Jan 09) Billboard Hot Airplay- #5 Billboard Hot Sales- #1 Billboard Dance Club Play- #2 UK- #3 (#17 in 2006) Australia- #1 (for 3 weeks) Austria- #11 Belgium- #2 Canada- #3 Denmark- #2 Finland- #6 France- #11 (#52 in 2006 and #54 in 2008) Germany- #13 Holland- #2 Ireland- #10 Italy- #16 (#6 in 2006) Japan- #82 New Zealand- #1 (for 4 weeks) Norway- #1 (for 2 weeks) South Africa- #1 (for 5 weeks) Spain- #6 (#2 in 2006) Sweden- #18 Switzerland- #4 Zimbabwe- #1 These are great pics. I don't know why people made fun of his nose or why his family did. It's not even that big really. And even so, he is still gorgeous. | |
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Lotus2unfld said: EmeraldSkies said: Huh? :confused: I read another article that said that both Jermaine,and Joe were for the Neverland burial. Do you have a link to that other article? they better hurry and make up their mind, cuz the clock is ticking. I wonder if the attorney informed them of that? surely he would have..you'd think. http://www.nypost.com/sev...178566.htm Michael Jackson's family is bitterly divided over how best to profit off the King of Pop's remains -- so his body has been stashed in Motown maestro Berry Gordy's crypt until the clan stops bickering, The Post has learned. LAPD: Not Ruling Out Homicide More: The Post's Ongoing Michael Jackson Coverage Jackson's gold-plated casket was last seen at his public memorial service, and its whereabouts have been shrouded in mystery -- until now. His remains were brought back to the white marble, above-ground crypt the Motown record-label founder bought for his family in the Court of Remembrance section of the sprawling, celeb-filled Forest Lawn Cemetery in the Hollywood Hills. Jackson's body is still missing his brain, which coroners are temporarily keeping for testing. Aside from Jackson, the simple mausoleum is empty and marked only with a distinctive swooping letter "G." For the time being, Jackson lies with a who's who of Hollywood heavyweights. Next door is the final resting place of American sweetheart actress Sandra Dee, who died in 2005. And nearby are ornate crypts for iconic actress Bette Davis, flamboyant pianist Liberace and '70s "Chico and the Man" star Freddie Prinze. Gordy -- who discovered the Jackson 5 -- offered the family use of the crypt until they sort out what to do with the superstar's remains, sources said. On one side are Jackson's brother Jermaine and father, Joseph, who are insistent the Gloved One be buried at Neverland Ranch so the family can profit off a proposed Graceland-style museum there -- a process that could take years. On the other are Jackson's mother, Katherine, and most of the rest of the siblings, who want his body laid to rest elsewhere out of respect for his wish, following his acquittal on child-molestation charges, to never return to Neverland. "Jermaine is the one that wants him at Neverland -- he and Joseph -- because of the whole Elvis thing and the money potential," a family source said. "They are seeing dollar signs." Her son's physical purgatory has left Katherine shaken. "She is still upset that Michael isn't buried and he is at Gordy's spot in Forest Lawn, the source said. "This fighting has to stop. We can never unite, and that's an injustice." The fight had become so contentious that Jermaine rode in a separate Rolls-Royce limousine to Jacko's public memorial at Los Angeles' Staples Center, even though his mother had wanted all the brothers to ride together, the source said. But the fight hasn't stopped the family from agreeing on other ways to turn Jackson's death into a financial boon. Most of the kids and Katherine are onboard with a proposed documentary about the family that could bring in $20 million, the source said. "They're doing this documentary because with the kids, they will get $20 million," the source said, adding Katherine is pushing all her children to be a part of it. But if Jermaine and Joseph Jackson prevail, it would be a long legal road -- permits would be needed -- before a Graceland-like museum could be built at Jackson's one-time fantasyland home north of Santa Barbara. Meanwhile, LAPD Chief William Bratton told CNN last night that detectives are looking at Jacko's prescription-drug history and trying to talk with his numerous former doctors. The coroner will determine the cause of death -- whether it's homicide or an accidental overdose. The coroner's office has subpoenaed "any and all" medical records pertaining to Jacko's care, the LA Times reported. Bratton said the federal Drug Enforcement Administration and the state Attorney General's Office, which keeps a database of prescription drugs, are assisting investigators. Not sure if any of that true or not. I also wish they would make up their minds,and get him laid to rest. [Edited 7/11/09 20:13pm] Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
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DesireeNevermind said: bboy87 said: DO NOT REPOST THIS ANYWHERE ELSE UNLESS YOU HAVE MY PERMISSION
DON’T STOP TIL YOU GET ENOUGH Written by Michael Jackson Produced by Michael Jackson and Quincy Jones Rhythm arrangement by Michael Jackson and Greg Philliganes Vocal and percussion arrangements by Michael Jackson Released- July 28, 1979 Michael had written the song in early 1978 and recorded the demo in the family home studio in Encino with brother, 17 year old Randy and sister 12 year old Janet assisting him on the music. Originally coming with the concept while in the kitchen and couldn’t shake it off. He had his brother Randy play the melody on the piano. Michael’s mother, Katherine was taken aback by the lyrical content but was reassured by Michael that it wasn’t a reference to sex. The song is abit reminiscent of Enjoy Yourself and Shake Your Body Down To The Ground in terms of lyrical content and meaning, but Don’t Stop stands miles ahead of both. From the minimalist bassline to the rhythm guitar sounding is if it is chopping at the song’s melody. It also remiscient of the Wall of Sound recordings. Greg Philliganes on the clavinet responding to the melody and the synth solo in the breakdown is a true highlight of the song. Performed on the 1979-1980 Destiny Tour, 1981 Triumph Tour. Michael included a part of the second verse while performing Shake Your Body (Down To The Ground) during the first leg of the Bad Tour. Was part of the Off The Wall medley during the first leg of the HIStory Tour Mixes Album Version 7’ Edit 7’ Edit without Intro Long/Extended Version Original 1978 Home Demo Recording Masters At Work Remix Roger’s Underground Club Solution CHART STATS Billboard Hot 100: #1 Billboard R&B: #1 (for 5 weeks) (#28 recurrent in Jan 09) Billboard Hot Airplay- #5 Billboard Hot Sales- #1 Billboard Dance Club Play- #2 UK- #3 (#17 in 2006) Australia- #1 (for 3 weeks) Austria- #11 Belgium- #2 Canada- #3 Denmark- #2 Finland- #6 France- #11 (#52 in 2006 and #54 in 2008) Germany- #13 Holland- #2 Ireland- #10 Italy- #16 (#6 in 2006) Japan- #82 New Zealand- #1 (for 4 weeks) Norway- #1 (for 2 weeks) South Africa- #1 (for 5 weeks) Spain- #6 (#2 in 2006) Sweden- #18 Switzerland- #4 Zimbabwe- #1 These are great pics. I don't know why people made fun of his nose or why his family did. It's not even that big really. And even so, he is still gorgeous. Hell yeah he was! Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
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DesireeNevermind said: bboy87 said: DO NOT REPOST THIS ANYWHERE ELSE UNLESS YOU HAVE MY PERMISSION
DON’T STOP TIL YOU GET ENOUGH Written by Michael Jackson Produced by Michael Jackson and Quincy Jones Rhythm arrangement by Michael Jackson and Greg Philliganes Vocal and percussion arrangements by Michael Jackson Released- July 28, 1979 Michael had written the song in early 1978 and recorded the demo in the family home studio in Encino with brother, 17 year old Randy and sister 12 year old Janet assisting him on the music. Originally coming with the concept while in the kitchen and couldn’t shake it off. He had his brother Randy play the melody on the piano. Michael’s mother, Katherine was taken aback by the lyrical content but was reassured by Michael that it wasn’t a reference to sex. The song is abit reminiscent of Enjoy Yourself and Shake Your Body Down To The Ground in terms of lyrical content and meaning, but Don’t Stop stands miles ahead of both. From the minimalist bassline to the rhythm guitar sounding is if it is chopping at the song’s melody. It also remiscient of the Wall of Sound recordings. Greg Philliganes on the clavinet responding to the melody and the synth solo in the breakdown is a true highlight of the song. Performed on the 1979-1980 Destiny Tour, 1981 Triumph Tour. Michael included a part of the second verse while performing Shake Your Body (Down To The Ground) during the first leg of the Bad Tour. Was part of the Off The Wall medley during the first leg of the HIStory Tour Mixes Album Version 7’ Edit 7’ Edit without Intro Long/Extended Version Original 1978 Home Demo Recording Masters At Work Remix Roger’s Underground Club Solution CHART STATS Billboard Hot 100: #1 Billboard R&B: #1 (for 5 weeks) (#28 recurrent in Jan 09) Billboard Hot Airplay- #5 Billboard Hot Sales- #1 Billboard Dance Club Play- #2 UK- #3 (#17 in 2006) Australia- #1 (for 3 weeks) Austria- #11 Belgium- #2 Canada- #3 Denmark- #2 Finland- #6 France- #11 (#52 in 2006 and #54 in 2008) Germany- #13 Holland- #2 Ireland- #10 Italy- #16 (#6 in 2006) Japan- #82 New Zealand- #1 (for 4 weeks) Norway- #1 (for 2 weeks) South Africa- #1 (for 5 weeks) Spain- #6 (#2 in 2006) Sweden- #18 Switzerland- #4 Zimbabwe- #1 These are great pics. I don't know why people made fun of his nose or why his family did. It's not even that big really. And even so, he is still gorgeous. The pictures are from after the first surgery "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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WaterInYourBath said: suga10 said: Every time I see cute pictures or videos of him smiling like this, I get happy and wave at the screen or book I'm looking at. But now, the waves are followed by sad sighs. | |
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I wish the hell they would stop calling him jacko .... his name is MICHAEL JACKSON! and anything otherwise I will consider tabloid | |
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bboy87 said: DesireeNevermind said: These are great pics. I don't know why people made fun of his nose or why his family did. It's not even that big really. And even so, he is still gorgeous. The pictures are from after the first surgery Where I wish he would have stopped... Actually, isn't this after the second nose op? | |
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utopia7 said: I wish the hell they would stop calling him jacko .... his name is MICHAEL JACKSON! and anything otherwise I will consider tabloid
i hate that shit too but they have winded down a bit with that term. they keep showing that bashir video all out the ass though. I think it's aired like 5 times already on msnbc. | |
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DesireeNevermind said: utopia7 said: I wish the hell they would stop calling him jacko .... his name is MICHAEL JACKSON! and anything otherwise I will consider tabloid
i hate that shit too but they have winded down a bit with that term. they keep showing that bashir video all out the ass though. I think it's aired like 5 times already on msnbc. The reason you're seeing repeated showing of that documentary is because MSNBC bought the TV rights to it immediately after Michael's death. I would like to beat Martin Bashir's ass! | |
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CalhounSq said: bboy87 said: The pictures are from after the first surgery Where I wish he would have stopped... Actually, isn't this after the second nose op? The second one was after the "Triumph" tour. | |
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some people are angry about prince not issuing a statement, but what about chris tucker? weren't they pretty tight? i'm not mad at either one. i can't assume that just because some people have chosen not take part in the 'whoopla' as liz called it, they don't care. she made her statement, as did diana, and that was that. they probably will never give any more statements or interviews about michael, period. they strike me that way. | |
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ABC News Pays $200,000 for Jackson Video July 2009 ABC News correspondent Chris Connelly sat down with Michael Jackson's father Joe Jackson -- Jackson's first one-on-one interview since his son's death. A small portion was used on "Nightline", more of on "Good Morning America" and insiders tell us the interview may be used in an hour-long "Family Secrets" special Tuesday, July 14th. But it didn't come free. We have learned ABC News paid upwards of $200,000 for rights to video featuring Joe and Katherine Jackson - and with it, the interview with Joe Jackson. A source close to the situation tells us the video was shot more than a year ago, "for some kind of reality show project." ABC licensed that footage from the production company and then approached Joe Jackson about getting a current interview "to address everything that's happened in the last couple of weeks," says the source. Connelly's interview lasted about 45 minutes. Only a few minutes has already aired, which means ABC News will stretch the access into next week, perhaps culminating with the Tuesday night special. And while critics will lambaste ABC News for what amounts to paying for an interview, an insider tells us the network made off easy, considering the comparable cost of some hour-long productions. "This was a good deal for ABC," says the source. http://www.mediabistro.co...qus_thread | |
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How comes everybody believes that LaToya really gave that interview? It sounds like statements spliced together from other articles with her name attached to it. Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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CalhounSq said: bboy87 said: The pictures are from after the first surgery Where I wish he would have stopped... Actually, isn't this after the second nose op? The first surgery caused breathing problems and the second one was to fix it "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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babynoz said: How comes everybody believes that LaToya really gave that interview? It sounds like statements spliced together from other articles with her name attached to it.
true, i think you're right. but that's what happens when you've been known as the 'crackpot' of the family. even if the retraction comes, it's kinda too late, sort like with that nanny. mark twain said lies can be spread halfway around the world before the truth even gets its pants on. | |
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kibbles said: some people are angry about prince not issuing a statement, but what about chris tucker? weren't they pretty tight? i'm not mad at either one. i can't assume that just because some people have chosen not take part in the 'whoopla' as liz called it, they don't care. she made her statement, as did diana, and that was that. they probably will never give any more statements or interviews about michael, period. they strike me that way.
I agree, I'm sick of the juvenile whining about why Prince or whomever hasn't commented. None of these people owe it to anybody to make their feelings public. Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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kibbles said: babynoz said: How comes everybody believes that LaToya really gave that interview? It sounds like statements spliced together from other articles with her name attached to it.
true, i think you're right. but that's what happens when you've been known as the 'crackpot' of the family. even if the retraction comes, it's kinda too late, sort like with that nanny. mark twain said lies can be spread halfway around the world before the truth even gets its pants on. That's so true...she's already known as the family dingbat. Just goes to show how past actions can come back to bite you in the ass. Now that her brother is gone she might become the tabloids favorite target. Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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Now that he's gone, I wonder if a mental health practitioner could have helped Michael overcome his arrested development? Poor guy, coping with a skin disease and being the object of constant ridicule and malicious rumours had to be heartbreaking. | |
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purplesweat said: Thought you guys might like some gifs:
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whatsgoingon said: What do you guys think of this image. Right click- save. This is so insightful and expressive it's heartbreaking. Is there any info? Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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