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Reply #900 posted 07/11/09 11:27am

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Michael Jackson: The Love We Save
Holly Cara Price

Here's an equation for you. Take one aging celebrity, mix in a hefty scoop of childhood abuse, add a few dozen helpings of bad publicity for pedophilia charges and just plain bizarre behavior, mix in a lethal cocktail of dangerous prescription drugs, plus the loss of billions of dollars due to years of mismanagement and an over the top lifestyle most of us could never even dream of. There's really only one way out of that mess, and it happened two weeks ago to 50 year old Michael Joseph Jackson: Death.

Death. It's a whole new media strategy for success. The only problem is, you're not around to enjoy the spoils.

This column originally ran in a slightly different form on the blog The Critical Condition.

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The problem with this is blog ...anyone could write it....Holly Cara making money out of mj but tying to act like she's not!

Good Grief Charile Brown... sad
Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
James Brown & Michael Jackson RIP, your music still lives with us!
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Reply #901 posted 07/11/09 11:43am

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Blanket In tears




seeingvoices12 stop that. it's heartwrentching. my gosh ...that poor baby.

MJ has a handsome family though. I hadn't really seen any of these children now that they're grown a little.

Is that an MJ doll the child is holding in his hand? I noticed the little white glove on the right hand of the doll.
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Reply #902 posted 07/11/09 12:17pm

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http://www.tmz.com/

Authorities Closing in On Jackson Doc

Posted Jul 11th 2009 11:53AM by TMZ Staff

Law enforcement sources tell TMZ the central target in both the coroner and LAPD investigations into Michael Jackson's death is Dr. Conrad Murray, who was at Jackson's house when the singer went into full cardiac arrest.

Sources say the doctor is not cooperating with authorities, but they have still found evidence linking him to the drug that may have killed Jackson. As we first reported, as a result of Dr. Murray's second interview with police two weeks ago today, the LAPD obtained a warrant to conduct a second search of Jackson's home -- and that's when they found Propofol, a powerful anesthesia that should never be used outside a hospital. There is evidence Propofol was administered to Jackson shortly before his heart stopped beating.

And we're told there is evidence Dr. Murray may have administered the drug. Dr. Murray's lawyer, Ed Chernoff, told TMZ he would neither confirm nor deny if Dr. Murray administered Propofol to Jackson. Law enforcement sources tell us if they conclude the doctor administered the drug it may well lead to manslaughter charges.

Investigators are also suspicious of the delay in calling 911 -- the Dr. says he waited 20 - 30 minutes because he didn't know Jackson's address that would lead paramedics to the house. Jackson lived on one of the most famous streets in the world -- one house above Sunset Blvd.

As the investigation into Jackson's death heats up, there's also an investigation into his life with drugs and the doctor's who fueled it. Sources tell us law enforcement is seriously investigating the prescription practices of several doctors who gave Jackson access to medications. Investigators are particularly interested in doctors who used aliases to write scripts for Jackson. One of the central figures in the investigation -- Dr. Arnold Klein.
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Reply #903 posted 07/11/09 12:18pm

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Okay President Obama, President Clinton, Madonna! All have spoken publicly about the passing of Michael Jackson. It's starting to piss me off that Prince hasn't issued a statement.

Don't give me this "everybody mourns differently or privately" baloney! When you are a public figure, especially with some connection to the famous person who died, you owe it to the public to make a statement.

Now granted Prince may not have appeared in public since MJs passing, so I'm giving him until he hits the stage in Montreux to say something or pay tribute.

If he stays mum, it will prove he is the most self-centered, selfish bastard that ever lived!

I really, really, REALLY wish people would let this shit go. Why do you even care enough to get "pissed off"? Don't you have a life? Other shit to think about? GET OVER YOURSELF confused
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Reply #904 posted 07/11/09 12:22pm

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Obama is a coward...

No my dear, you are a hysterical fan. GOOD JOB thumbs up!
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Reply #905 posted 07/11/09 12:23pm

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CalhounSq said:

ProtegeGlow said:

Okay President Obama, President Clinton, Madonna! All have spoken publicly about the passing of Michael Jackson. It's starting to piss me off that Prince hasn't issued a statement.

Don't give me this "everybody mourns differently or privately" baloney! When you are a public figure, especially with some connection to the famous person who died, you owe it to the public to make a statement.

Now granted Prince may not have appeared in public since MJs passing, so I'm giving him until he hits the stage in Montreux to say something or pay tribute.

If he stays mum, it will prove he is the most self-centered, selfish bastard that ever lived!

I really, really, REALLY wish people would let this shit go. Why do you even care enough to get "pissed off"? Don't you have a life? Other shit to think about? GET OVER YOURSELF confused


Amen n maybe just maybe like millions of other people, he just doesn't care that much.
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Reply #906 posted 07/11/09 12:27pm

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Huh? I don't get your point? I would expect Michaels kids to come out looking more like Jermajesty than Blanket



you are so stupid blanket looks just like his cousins if you blew jermajesty hair out with a blow dryer( which is probably what they did to blankets) his would be just as straight and silky. blanket looks nothing like brando. except for the coloring. his eyes are nothing like his his nose is nothing like his. blanket is a jackson and like i said you people are crazy



cdcgold, how close are you to this thing, I may ask? seems like your sitting on the edge of your seat.


legally in the end it doesn't make any bit of difference.... not for custody issues...nor for estate control issues....if these kids are somehow biologically linked to one of the other Jacksons .. with surrogate Debbie Rowe.

Is that what your suggesting?

Please clarify.
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Reply #907 posted 07/11/09 12:30pm

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Does it really matter if they are his biological kids or not? Maybe he couldn't have children of his own b/c of certain health issues.

Tons of Hollywood celebrities adopt children from other countries- just like Madonna and Angelina did, yet the media never picks on them for not adopting white children.

What a big double standard the media has going.
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Reply #908 posted 07/11/09 12:53pm

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What do you guys think of this image.
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Reply #909 posted 07/11/09 12:55pm

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What do you guys think of this image.

FUCK, that's pretty heartbreaking...
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Reply #910 posted 07/11/09 12:55pm

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Lotus2unfld said:

kibbles said:



yes but as i said upthread and desiree echoes, there is a concern that the rules will change with respect to mj if those kids aren't his bio kids.



If Debbie Rowe (or how ever she spells it) is behind these nasty rumors....

there are a couple of points to remember.

1. She abandoned owenership and property rights to her ovum and fertilized egg
and succeeding children born of that fertizliation, upon entering her agreement with MJ to act as surrogate to his children.

2. Furthermore, as part of that agreement she also agreed to abandon the children .... custody rights to those children she gave birth to in leiu of payment for services rendered so unlike a work for hire contract. Just a little more complex. Anything created or produced in that collaboration would belong to MJ.

3. She has established a precedence ...which is a BIG deal in the courts, by keeping with this agreement, the meets, bounds, terms and conditions of that agreement...something like a work for hire agreement for years after the fact.

A little late in the game to come back now and claim anything different. She can't sya that lived in fear for her life, that MJ beat her or anyting like that, waaaay too late in the game to claim something that outragous and no one would ever believe her anyway ..especially at this point. So the only she might be able to come up with is that now she is and possibly has been secretly fearful for the kids. If she goes that route... fear for the kids ...all these years... and there is ANY reason to Possibly give any standing ..
then the state should invstigate Debbie for Criminal neglicet of those children. Take Debbie to Superior Court... Probate will be there anyway ..so that will be handy. Let Debbie go diamond hunting ...tick off Probate court and find her but in jail, for child neglict and endangerment and even child abuse on Her. child abuse in the factor that she now claims she thought the kids were in danger and took money to stay away from those kids and keep quiet.

I better quit with the strategizing. I'm not an attorney any way. I just have a natural love of the law and I love to analyze.


However, the Jackson's will have the best possible legal team putting there game plan down. They'll be alright. Those kids are well documented in the public eye as MJ's children. It's also well known to the public at large that Debbie Rowe was a wife of convienence for a time ... whose true purpose was to act as surrogate as the two of them had agreed upon ...even before marriage, if I'm not mistaken. They were not in love with each other. No one in the public eye was ever confused about that fact.

But to hear of this woman trying to pull this stunt ... is appauling. So what if MJ cut her out of the will.
She had already agreed to something quite different with him ... she was an acting surrogate ... not really family to him.



those poor kids. They shouldn't have to go through this at all..and esp. while their grieving. Shoot poor Mrs Jackson... she lost her son and has to face a big convulted legal mess ..that's just getting started. Bless her heart... Bless that whole family.


i wholeheartedly agree with you. there is no freakin' way any fair judge should give her so-called concerns any merit just based on what you said above. but speaking of precedents, a family judge unilaterally decided to restore her parental rights which was not based on her demonstrating that she deserved them. she didn't. she unilaterally gave them up, capriciously it seems, then goaded by others, she decided that her children 'needed her' because she was afraid of the nation of islam's supposed influence on mj. she had no intimate knowledge of any influence, all she had was media speculation. the judge decided that she was right, ostensibly based upon his own prejudices about the noi. whatever anyone thinks about the politics of the noi, unless you have some credible evidence that the children were being negatively influenced by them, then rowe's unsubstantiated concerns should not have been the prevailing factor to decide to re-establish her parental rights. i may not like it if someone is a card carrying kkk member who raises their kids with their prejudices, but i do not have the right to award someone else parental rights over them. rowe abandoned her children, went into court on her own volition to terminate - TERMINATE - her relationship and connection to them, and the judge decided on his own that she should have those rights back. even with those rights back, it is known that she still has no contact with those kids.

it's this kind of b.s. that leads me to believe that the jacksons will have an uphill battle for these kids based on the thinly veiled racism at work here. if those kids are not mj's, if they are white, i think that mountains will be moved for rowe to award her custody. the unspoken truth is that no one can fathom white children being brought up with a black family, and you hear the sentiment echoed everywhere. it's one thing for madonna, angelina, et al to go to a third world country and adopt a child of color; everyone's okay with that. but even though jackson is the legal father and the only one they have ever known, his family the only one they have ever known, the argument will be made that rowe is the bio mom, so every accommodation should be made for her. that's like saying that if madonna died tomorrow, david banda and mercy james would go back to africa. they wouldn't; they would go to whomever madonna has stipulated in her will as guardian, she is their adopted mother after all. like you said, the prima facie evidence her is that mj and rowe had an arrangement that she would be his surrogate. why would she have any claims on those kids, then. does david crosby have any claims to melissa etheridge's kids? no. he donated sperm, that's all. but i have a feeling that rowe will be given a special consideration that she really doesn't deserve based on her race. twocents
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Reply #911 posted 07/11/09 12:55pm

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whatsgoingon said:



What do you guys think of this image.


Sad and brilliant... I had to think about how I thought about the picture, it's a sad way of looking at how sad his life was.
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Reply #912 posted 07/11/09 1:12pm

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Timmy84 said:

whatsgoingon said:



What do you guys think of this image.


Sad and brilliant... I had to think about how I thought about the picture, it's a sad way of looking at how sad his life was.
[Edited 7/11/09 12:56pm]


It's like in death he could take off his mask.
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Reply #913 posted 07/11/09 1:13pm

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What do you guys think of this image.


I saw this yesterday. Who painted that? I haven't found any info about it.
"You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
"Water can nourish me, but water can also carry me. Water has magic laws." - JCVD
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Reply #914 posted 07/11/09 1:23pm

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BTW, why is the interviewer asking them about money?? So inappropriate.
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Reply #915 posted 07/11/09 1:28pm

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2 LEGENDS. Apparently Michael worked with Jim Henson a few times during his career. biggrin


Jackson on A Special Sesame Street Christmas. (1978)
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Reply #916 posted 07/11/09 1:51pm

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excited I never knew there was a video for Blame It On The Boogie!

I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart.
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Reply #917 posted 07/11/09 1:55pm

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excited I never knew there was a video for Blame It On The Boogie!

BET is doing an MJ special that's on right now and they just played that.
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Reply #918 posted 07/11/09 1:56pm

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Timmy84 said:

Don't tell me this fool is more of a quack than I think he is:

Here Come the Crazies? Jackson Dermatologist Reports "Suspicious" Phone Calls

Today 4:30 PM PDT by Natalie Finn

Dr. Arnold Klein's office is used to fielding calls from the rich and famous. But now it's the random and fishy they have to worry about.

Police were called to the Beverly Hills office of Michael Jackson's former dermatologist—who in various interviews this week discussed the late artist's plastic surgery obsession and prescription-drug use and didn't really deny fathering Jackson's children—after the office received some, shall we say, off the wall phone calls.

Per the Beverly Hills Police Department, an officer headed to Klein's office on Roxbury Drive shortly after 12:30 p.m. in response to a report about some suspicious phone calls that were made to the office of the man who's been accused of being Jackson's sperm donor.

Otherwise known as a very understandable turn of events.

"At this time, they are not threatening phone calls and office management wanted to document this activity," said Lt. Tony Lee of the Beverly Hills Police Department. " Detectives are not releasing further information because they are actively investigating this incident."



do you think that the doctor is attempting to generate public sympathy for himself because he's under investigation?

or do you think he's just trying to bask in some sort of sick kind of limelight ... on the coattails of MJ's name ?

I don't recall the doctor ever jumping in the media and news camara's before while MJ was alive. But maybe I missed something.


I agree with you that he's a quack doctor. I wouldn't want to go to him after all this.
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Reply #919 posted 07/11/09 1:56pm

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Hi guys. Been on a holiday for a week which I could not enjoy because of what happened. Been off the news, haven´t seen the memorial yet, trying to watch it now (and I am all over in tears again) and catch up with all the news, but there´s tones of garbage to go through. Could someone sum it up for me, please? No tabloids please.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #920 posted 07/11/09 1:58pm

Timmy84

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

excited I never knew there was a video for Blame It On The Boogie!



You never knew? lol

Didn't you see when they re-aired "The Midnight Special" back on VH-1 in the '90s, that's when I saw it.
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Reply #921 posted 07/11/09 1:59pm

Timmy84

Lotus2unfld said:

Timmy84 said:

Don't tell me this fool is more of a quack than I think he is:

Here Come the Crazies? Jackson Dermatologist Reports "Suspicious" Phone Calls

Today 4:30 PM PDT by Natalie Finn

Dr. Arnold Klein's office is used to fielding calls from the rich and famous. But now it's the random and fishy they have to worry about.

Police were called to the Beverly Hills office of Michael Jackson's former dermatologist—who in various interviews this week discussed the late artist's plastic surgery obsession and prescription-drug use and didn't really deny fathering Jackson's children—after the office received some, shall we say, off the wall phone calls.

Per the Beverly Hills Police Department, an officer headed to Klein's office on Roxbury Drive shortly after 12:30 p.m. in response to a report about some suspicious phone calls that were made to the office of the man who's been accused of being Jackson's sperm donor.

Otherwise known as a very understandable turn of events.

"At this time, they are not threatening phone calls and office management wanted to document this activity," said Lt. Tony Lee of the Beverly Hills Police Department. " Detectives are not releasing further information because they are actively investigating this incident."



do you think that the doctor is attempting to generate public sympathy for himself because he's under investigation?

or do you think he's just trying to bask in some sort of sick kind of limelight ... on the coattails of MJ's name ?

I don't recall the doctor ever jumping in the media and news camara's before while MJ was alive. But maybe I missed something.


I agree with you that he's a quack doctor. I wouldn't want to go to him after all this.


I don't recall him being in people's faces either during MJ's lifetime. Matter of fact, this is the first time I really heard of him. I mean I've heard of him but I never knew who he was per se, you know?
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Reply #922 posted 07/11/09 2:01pm

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WaterInYourBath said:

whatsgoingon said:



What do you guys think of this image.


I saw this yesterday. Who painted that? I haven't found any info about it.


I saved the picture. touched
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Reply #923 posted 07/11/09 2:01pm

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Vendetta1 said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

excited I never knew there was a video for Blame It On The Boogie!

BET is doing an MJ special that's on right now and they just played that.


I know. My sister called and told me they were playing it. By the time I found my remote, it had gone off. I didn't believe she knew what she was talking about so I looked it up on YouTube. lol
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Reply #924 posted 07/11/09 2:04pm

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Timmy84 said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

excited I never knew there was a video for Blame It On The Boogie!



You never knew? lol

Didn't you see when they re-aired "The Midnight Special" back on VH-1 in the '90s, that's when I saw it.


Nope! My very first time ever seeing it was about 20 minutes ago. I'm soooo late! lol
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Reply #925 posted 07/11/09 2:19pm

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Copycat said:

Custody Hearing over Jackson's Children Postponed
By Elaine Aradillas
07/10/09




The custody hearing for temporary guardianship of Michael Jackson's children scheduled for Monday has been rescheduled for July 20 at the request of Katherine Jackson and Debbie Rowe, according to court officials.

"All prior orders remain in full force and effect, with Katherine Jackson as temporary guardian of the children," according to a Los Angeles Superior Court statement released Friday afternoon.

Michael Jackson's kids – Prince Michael I, 12, Paris, 11, and Prince Michael II (Blanket), 7 – have been living with their grandmother, Katherine, and staying at her Encino, Calif., home since the death of the pop icon on June 25.

Rowe, who is the biological mother of Prince and Paris, has not filed a petition for temporary guardianship, says a courthouse spokesperson. Blanket's mother has never been identified.

Last week, Rowe's attorney Eric George, said, "The truth is that Debbie has not reached a final decision concerning the pending custody proceedings."

This came on the heels of Rowe telling her former attorney and close friend Iris Finsilver that she intended to pursue custody. "Frankly, she won't have to fight for them, " Finsilver told PEOPLE. "She is the children's biological mother. She loves her children."

But Jackson's mother, Katherine, was named the guardian of his three children in his will, which was revealed last week. A source close to the family says of the Jacksons: "They will fight."

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Those kids don't even know Debbie! She wants to rip those kids apart? she'll be hurting all three horribly, ripping a family apart, Biological mother or not, Mike will win this one too.

I guarantee. A prescedant will be set.



boy howdy, Debbie Rowe and her attorney are sure snakin' it ..this way and that. I see they did file a motion obviously, but they're not asking for custody at this time. You can bet the Judge is no fool, he or she see's the garbage every day. It's too bad MJ didn't have his attorney draft a special codicil in his last will and testament that would have antipicated Debbie's greed ...and challenged her on it.

something like, Debbie will continue to receive X for a specified time. Until the kids are 14 or something. (I think the court allows a 14 yr old to choose his own family member to stay with.) Then put in a no contest clause ..that if she contests any part of the will, she is to be considered as predeceasing MJ in the eye's of the court. And have it so that the childrens custody are in the Will .. just as they are now .... and slip in something further down in the fine print that would include that any challengers to the Will are considered predeasced of the decedent ...which would include but not be limited too, child custody.

Did that make any sense?

In other words if she barked, she'd loose all disbursments and loose all custody claims as well. Especially since the children are linked to the estate being MJ's heirs.

Learn a man's weakness and never trust him with it ... (forgot which philosopher said that) Or you can look at it as the glass half full....
Learn a man's weakness and always trust him with it. Trust he'll cave to his weakness.

MJs will probably DOES have a no contest clause. It would be malpractice for an estate that size not to have a tight well written will.

shoiot I need to just take my behind on back to school and get that law degree.
this aspect just fascinates me. I mean No disrepsect to the memory of Michael or his family though.


I'm gonna try to just keep my mouth shut and quit posting on this topic. But the topic of the law just is soooo interesting to me.
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Reply #926 posted 07/11/09 2:20pm

Timmy84

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Timmy84 said:



You never knew? lol

Didn't you see when they re-aired "The Midnight Special" back on VH-1 in the '90s, that's when I saw it.


Nope! My very first time ever seeing it was about 20 minutes ago. I'm soooo late! lol


Better late than never then. giggle
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Reply #927 posted 07/11/09 2:33pm

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Is there any word on where they're gonna bury Michael? I'm not understanding why he hasn't been buried yet. This is gonna play out the same way they did JB
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Reply #928 posted 07/11/09 2:34pm

Timmy84

ViintageJunkiie said:

Is there any word on where they're gonna bury Michael? I'm not understanding why he hasn't been buried yet. This is gonna play out the same way they did JB


Nope, no word.
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Reply #929 posted 07/11/09 2:36pm

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Timmy84 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

Is there any word on where they're gonna bury Michael? I'm not understanding why he hasn't been buried yet. This is gonna play out the same way they did JB


Nope, no word.


Damn. So here MJ is, sitting in a freezer again
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