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Reply #960 posted 07/11/09 4:05pm

Timmy84

suga10 said:

I find this interview believable though.

Latoya doesn't seem to mind giving interviews in general regardless of the newspaper or whatever.


I post ridiculous gossip too, doesn't mean it could be true either. It's too confusing to think it could be murder even with the LAPD pushing for possible manslaughter charges. No one has a clear way of knowing what happened on June 25.
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Reply #961 posted 07/11/09 4:07pm

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Timmy84 said:

DesireeNevermind said:




so she is doing lengthy interviews today? her brother aint even in the ground yet, custody of her neices and nephews not permanently established and this heffer allegedly talking to some gossip rag about her brother being murdered? she gonna nail somebody? I'm sorry but if this interview is genuine then she is a ripe attention seeking money grabbing fame whoring heffer. this is sooooo not the time to be talking to anyone representing US magazine especially after they called her brother Nazi obsessed and said his kids weren't his. If they misquoted her and took whatever she said out of context then she needs to sue their asses now! hmph!


I doubt she'll even do that but saying I'm not shocked at La Toya's actions. This is the same woman who said her father physically abused her and the other siblings and then went on to allege sexual abuse (something Rebbie and Janet denied) at her and the sisters (with the exception of Janet) and then claimed she KNEW for sure that her brother was a molester though she later recanted and said Jack Gordon made her say this stuff, now she thinks her brother was murdered? Give me a break. Wait until the autopsies for chrissakes, La Toya.



Im back to be sick of that woman. Tried to forgive her when she threw her family under the bus. I still remember her being on Geraldo saying all that crap about Micheal being a child molester and saying she saw "tubs of bleach cream" at his house and that he wanted to be white. bawl Ugh that bitch!!!
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Reply #962 posted 07/11/09 4:07pm

Timmy84

dag said:

I just discovered these wonderful pictures.
I´ve been away for a while so I am not sure if someone has already posted them. If so, sorry.









Mike, I miss you sooooo much.


Nice rare photos. smile
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Reply #963 posted 07/11/09 4:07pm

Lotus2unfld

cdcgold said:

SefraNSue said:

I'm really disgusted with how the Jackson family continues to be disrespected and dehumanized, especially his children.
The only ones still denying MJ's rightful role as parent (by law, by love, AND by blood) are either promoting a certain *cough*RACIST*cough* agenda, or are too ashamed to admit that they were wrong all these years.



But go ahead. Continue to tout every white man under the sun as the "true" father of these beautiful kids, if that's what helps you sleep at night.
[Edited 7/10/09 10:23am]
[Edited 7/10/09 10:35am]

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okay. maybe that's where cdcgold was coming from. I must admit I was confused about what cdcgold was trying to say.

The thing is, what difference does it make what color these children are? They were loved by their father.... and that's all that really matters. Isn't it?

I say this as a general statement ..for anyone who has anything to say about the color of these beautiful children.

In the middle east they don't trip over this ... did ya'll know that?

America ...American society at large really needs to grow up....on this issue
this is the time of the first fast.
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Reply #964 posted 07/11/09 4:09pm

Timmy84

DesireeNevermind said:

Timmy84 said:



I doubt she'll even do that but saying I'm not shocked at La Toya's actions. This is the same woman who said her father physically abused her and the other siblings and then went on to allege sexual abuse (something Rebbie and Janet denied) at her and the sisters (with the exception of Janet) and then claimed she KNEW for sure that her brother was a molester though she later recanted and said Jack Gordon made her say this stuff, now she thinks her brother was murdered? Give me a break. Wait until the autopsies for chrissakes, La Toya.



Im back to be sick of that woman. Tried to forgive her when she threw her family under the bus. I still remember her being on Geraldo saying all that crap about Micheal being a child molester and saying she saw "tubs of bleach cream" at his house and that he wanted to be white. bawl Ugh that bitch!!!


Not to mention she had the galls to have a 1-900 Jackson Hot Line or whatever that shit was. I was sick of her after that. They say MJ was the odd one, I think his sister (and maybe Joe) take the cake as the odd ones.
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Reply #965 posted 07/11/09 4:09pm

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More MJ collaborating on stage with artists not worth his caliber. I love him and that's why I'm posting this. Just try and imagine someone else in her place. lol

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Reply #966 posted 07/11/09 4:10pm

Timmy84

Lotus2unfld said:

cdcgold said:


nod



okay. maybe that's where cdcgold was coming from. I must admit I was confused about what cdcgold was trying to say.

The thing is, what difference does it make what color these children are? They were loved by their father.... and that's all that really matters. Isn't it?

I say this as a general statement ..for anyone who has anything to say about the color of these beautiful children.

In the middle east they don't trip over this ... did ya'll know that?

America ...American society at large really needs to grow up....on this issue


Right. This world has a sick obsession with color. I don't give a fuck about paternity anymore. That man truly loved his kids and the kids loved him back, end of the fucking story.
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Reply #967 posted 07/11/09 4:11pm

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LondonStyle said:

On paulmccartney.com, McCartney wrote:
Some time ago, the media came up with the idea that Michael Jackson was going to leave his share in the Beatles songs to me in his will which was completely made up and something I didn’t believe for a second.

"Now the report is that I am devastated to find that he didn’t leave the songs to me. This is completely untrue. I had not thought for one minute that the original report was true and therefore, the report that I’m devastated is also totally false, so don’t believe everything you read folks!

In fact, though Michael and I drifted apart over the years, we never really fell out, and I have fond memories of our time together.

At times like this, the press do tend to make things up, so occasionally, I feel the need to put the record straight.


Paul


This is the reason most stars keep their mouths shut... sad
[Edited 7/11/09 9:18am]


Paul has the habit to blow down past arguments and making look the past more romantic.

To this day Paul is pissed as hell MJ "robbed" him off of his Beatles songs. The same way Paul think it would be fair his name would be listed first on Yesterday.
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Reply #968 posted 07/11/09 4:11pm

Timmy84

DesireeNevermind said:

More MJ collaborating on stage with artists not worth his caliber. I love him and that's why I'm posting this. Just try and imagine someone else in her place. lol



Even with his condition that night, he still out shined Britney, who looked in awe. lol Even Usher couldn't hang at the end of it. falloff That's how talented he was. nod
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Reply #969 posted 07/11/09 4:16pm

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Timmy84 said:

DesireeNevermind said:

More MJ collaborating on stage with artists not worth his caliber. I love him and that's why I'm posting this. Just try and imagine someone else in her place. lol



Even with his condition that night, he still out shined Britney, who looked in awe. lol Even Usher couldn't hang at the end of it. falloff That's how talented he was. nod



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Reply #970 posted 07/11/09 4:17pm

graecophilos

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Timmy84 said:

whatsgoingon said:



What do you guys think of this image.


Sad and brilliant... I had to think about how I thought about the picture, it's a sad way of looking at how sad his life was.
[Edited 7/11/09 12:56pm]


Timmy84, don't you think Marvin easily could have complained much more than MJ?

MJ was quite blessed too. If he would have become a star in his early 20s, he might have been able to enjoy the success. But I assume for him it was usual to be famous and making music.
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Reply #971 posted 07/11/09 4:18pm

Timmy84

graecophilos said:

Timmy84 said:



Sad and brilliant... I had to think about how I thought about the picture, it's a sad way of looking at how sad his life was.
[Edited 7/11/09 12:56pm]


Timmy84, don't you think Marvin easily could have complained much more than MJ?

MJ was quite blessed too. If he would have become a star in his early 20s, he might have been able to enjoy the success. But I assume for him it was usual to be famous and making music.


Well yeah I do but that's besides the point. I was just talking about the painting. He was never happy I don't think.
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Reply #972 posted 07/11/09 4:26pm

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AMONG MY FAVORITE OF THE MJ VIDEOS CUZ THE CHOREOGRAPHY WAS KILLER. I JUST LOVE DUDE ON THE SKATES! lol

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Reply #973 posted 07/11/09 4:27pm

Copycat



Michael Jackson: King of Style
The military details, red leather and black loafers made the pop singer an '80s fashion icon
07/10/09

Wearing one glove, Michael Jackson reached into the pop culture zeitgeist and influenced an entire generation, giving pieces as simple as military badges and a fedora an imprint that, for a time, was as powerful as his music.

At the height of his career in the mid-1980s, he was a fresh representation of how a male pop singer could look, with his perfectly chiseled face, long curls, white T-shirt, black pegged pants, white ankle socks and black loafers. Reminiscent of a dancer's costume, the graphic black-and-white enhanced his unbelievable moves. That rhinestone-studded glove became his signature statement.

The power of his determinedly idiosyncratic style was amplified by MTV, which beamed "Billie Jean" and "Beat It" around the world and made him its first fashion icon. Teenagers wanted what he had, taking break-dance lessons and wearing pink bow ties and single rhinestone gloves to school.

The more his popularity soared, the more he dressed to impress. The red leather, zippers and Jheri curls of "Thriller" evolved into a more regal look that was in keeping with his reputation as the King of Pop. Embellished jackets became his uniform. Festooned with gold braiding, epaulets, brass buttons, even forks and knives, each one was more elaborate than the next, and they became a kind of symbol for the more-is-more fashion era.

In 1984, when Jackson was invited to the White House to receive an award from President Reagan, he wore a blue sequined cropped jacket with gold sequined epaulets, his signature glove, black loafers with spats and aviator sunglasses.

The men behind the Man in the Mirror were L.A.-based costume designers Michael Bush and Dennis Tompkins. They quietly designed most of Jackson's personal and concert tour wardrobes -- tens of thousands of pieces, many with military details -- working from a Michael mannequin in their studio that was built to the singer's exact measurements. The pop star's directive was always, "This is what the world's wearing -- top it," the designers said in 2005. And they tried. One jacket -- worn in a 1990 L.A. Gear ad campaign -- was black suede and covered in miniature gold license plates.

Costume designer Deborah Landis designed the iconic leather "Thriller" jacket, settling on the color after learning that "there would be a huge dance with ghouls, and the ghouls would be very ragged and coming from dust," she said recently. "So I thought, what would make Michael pop? I went through the palette and came up with red."

Jackson understood the power of costume on and off the stage -- and even in court. When he appeared at the Santa Maria courthouse in 2005 to face child molestation charges, his oddly styled get-ups (the famous pajama bottoms and armbands) created a template for a kind of kooky celeb-goes-on-trial look.

It was his face, though, that seemed to hold the most fascination for the public. The never-ending speculation about his rhinoplasties fueled a cultural obsession with plastic surgery as Jackson pursued an ideal of beauty that for him was always just out of reach.

It's almost as if the fashion industry knew it was time for a Jackson tribute. The pop singer's influence was everywhere on the runway this past season, in the crystal-dusted jackets at Balmain, Givenchy's gold-studded jackets and the sequined gloves at Louis Vuitton.

Swarovski had been tapped to bedazzle the costumes for Jackson's comeback tour in London. It would have been a fashion spectacle for the ages.


http://theenvelope.latime...2330.story
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Reply #974 posted 07/11/09 4:28pm

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suga10 said:

DesireeNevermind said:

okay that article is complete bonkers because 11/07/2009 aint even here yet! rolleyes

that woman was hardly the closest of his family members either. sheesh.


michael wanted to give up the music business and become a movie director and direct a horro film called thriller? where they get this nonsense from? disbelief




11/07/2009 might have meant as 7/11/09


yep, in Germany we say elevnth July 09 (11.07.09) rather than July, the eleventh 09. (07.11.09) and we separate with dots not with /
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Reply #975 posted 07/11/09 4:33pm

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>edit>
[Edited 7/11/09 18:09pm]
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Reply #976 posted 07/11/09 4:50pm

Arnotts

LleeLlee said:

Arnotts said:


How could the mask thing not be right? They are the whole reason that they had any privacy at all and were out of the media spotlight away from Michael. Everyone went crazy mad at him for doing it but it was the best thing he ever did for their privacy. If they didnt understand why they had to wear them then I bet they sure as hell know why now.



It just looked creepy if you know what I mean. Oh and the hair bleaching of the older son, :eek eek eekI mean Madge didnt go to thsoe lengths with her kids..but anyway, yes, a big clapping for protecting them. BTW, I think Janet would never take thsoe kids on and I'm glad, she just seems so not maternal to me. I think Blanket is so cute. They are beautiful kids.

I know, but I really think she should have done something similar, dont ask me what though. I just saw paparazzi footage of her daughter on youtube and it was SICK. These people were mobbing her and chasing her down the street for just getting a manicure, seeing the footage is so much different than just seeing the photos, the paparzzi look so crazed. It really is a tough decision for celebrities especially people like Michael and Madonna (and now Brad and Angie) who are the worlds biggest stars. I don't know what I'd do in their shoes.
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Reply #977 posted 07/11/09 4:54pm

Marrk

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graecophilos said:

LondonStyle said:

On paulmccartney.com, McCartney wrote:
Some time ago, the media came up with the idea that Michael Jackson was going to leave his share in the Beatles songs to me in his will which was completely made up and something I didn’t believe for a second.

"Now the report is that I am devastated to find that he didn’t leave the songs to me. This is completely untrue. I had not thought for one minute that the original report was true and therefore, the report that I’m devastated is also totally false, so don’t believe everything you read folks!

In fact, though Michael and I drifted apart over the years, we never really fell out, and I have fond memories of our time together.

At times like this, the press do tend to make things up, so occasionally, I feel the need to put the record straight.


Paul


This is the reason most stars keep their mouths shut... sad
[Edited 7/11/09 9:18am]


Paul has the habit to blow down past arguments and making look the past more romantic.

To this day Paul is pissed as hell MJ "robbed" him off of his Beatles songs. The same way Paul think it would be fair his name would be listed first on Yesterday.


So you're going to argue with an official statement, By Paul himself, on his official site? I'll take his statement over your 'pissed as hell' one anyday.
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Reply #978 posted 07/11/09 4:57pm

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kibbles said:

EmeraldSkies said:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/a...estigation

LOS ANGELES – Detectives investigating the death of Michael Jackson are looking at his prescription drug history and trying to talk with his numerous former doctors, the Los Angeles police chief said.

Jackson's father, Joe Jackson, told ABC News in an interview that he believed "foul play" was involved in his son's death. But in the interview aired Friday on "Good Morning America," Jackson did not elaborate.

Los Angeles Police Chief William Bratton told CNN that police are waiting for the coroner's report before ruling out any possibilities in their "comprehensive" investigation into the sudden death of the 50-year-old pop star two weeks ago.

The coroner's report will determine the cause of death and hinges on time-consuming toxicology tests.

"Based on those we'll have an idea of what we're dealing with," Bratton said Thursday. "Are we dealing with homicide? Are we dealing with an accidental overdose? What are we dealing with?"

Bratton said detectives are gathering evidence, including items seized from Jackson's rented home and arranging interviews with his many physicians, but the police chief deferred to the coroner to determine the cause of death.

"The next move really is his," Bratton said. "We're not marking time waiting for his report."

The Drug Enforcement Administration and the state attorney general's office, which keeps a database of prescription drugs, are assisting investigators.

An attorney for Dr. Arnold Klein, one of Jackson's many physicians, told the Los Angeles Times that the dermatologist was subpoenaed for medical records, which he turned over to the county coroner's office.

Bratton refused to discuss details of the case.

Jackson, who died June 25, had a well-known history of using prescription medications, especially painkillers. Following his death, Cherilyn Lee, a registered nurse who had worked for Jackson, told The Associated Press she repeatedly rejected his demands for the potent anesthetic Diprivan, also known as Propofol.

Jackson had multiple doctors, friends and staff who came in and out of his life. Which people were being interviewed by police was unclear because the LAPD has said virtually nothing about the probe.

Joe Jackson said he didn't know anything about drugs his son was involved in.

"I don't even know the name of them," he said. "I do know that whatever he was taking was to make him rest because he had been working so hard."

Police towed a doctor's car from Jackson's home hours after he died and said later it could contain medication or other evidence. Coroner's officials also said Jackson was taking prescription medication but declined to elaborate.

Meanwhile, Joe Jackson told ABC that he and his wife, Katherine, should have custody of Michael's three children. "They'll grow up to be strong Jacksons," he said.

He said Michael's daughter, Paris, who spoke at the Tuesday memorial service, was taking the death hard and was crying whenever Michael's name is mentioned. He said that she might have a future in the entertainment business along with the youngest son, nicknamed Blanket, who "can really dance." eek

Their father has just passed away,and he is already thinking of their careers? confused


i remember reading somewhere that a friend said joe was dreaming of a singing group even before all of his children were born.

Wow hes sure as hell lucky his kids came out as talented as they did then!
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Reply #979 posted 07/11/09 5:00pm

Lotus2unfld

Timmy84 said:

Lotus2unfld said:




okay. maybe that's where cdcgold was coming from. I must admit I was confused about what cdcgold was trying to say.

The thing is, what difference does it make what color these children are? They were loved by their father.... and that's all that really matters. Isn't it?

I say this as a general statement ..for anyone who has anything to say about the color of these beautiful children.

In the middle east they don't trip over this ... did ya'll know that?

America ...American society at large really needs to grow up....on this issue


Right. This world has a sick obsession with color. I don't give a fuck about paternity anymore. That man truly loved his kids and the kids loved him back, end of the fucking story.



Thank you Timmy84. cool
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Reply #980 posted 07/11/09 5:04pm

Timmy84

Lotus2unfld said:

Timmy84 said:



Right. This world has a sick obsession with color. I don't give a fuck about paternity anymore. That man truly loved his kids and the kids loved him back, end of the fucking story.



Thank you Timmy84. cool


You're welcome. cool
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Reply #981 posted 07/11/09 5:14pm

Serena

Timmy84 said:

Lotus2unfld said:




okay. maybe that's where cdcgold was coming from. I must admit I was confused about what cdcgold was trying to say.

The thing is, what difference does it make what color these children are? They were loved by their father.... and that's all that really matters. Isn't it?

I say this as a general statement ..for anyone who has anything to say about the color of these beautiful children.

In the middle east they don't trip over this ... did ya'll know that?

America ...American society at large really needs to grow up....on this issue


Right. This world has a sick obsession with color. I don't give a fuck about paternity anymore. That man truly loved his kids and the kids loved him back, end of the fucking story.


While the love part is true, there are other considerations, especially as the kids grow, like medical histories. They also may want to know (if at all possible) who their biological parents are when they're adults.
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Reply #982 posted 07/11/09 5:15pm

suga10

Just curious to know what people think but these photos Michael seems to appear happy and content here in 2008, and his weight doesn't look ridiculously thin.






And then all of sudden in 2009 we have this frail looking man?? I just don't get this thing at all.


[Edited 7/11/09 17:21pm]
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Reply #983 posted 07/11/09 5:15pm

Lotus2unfld

seeingvoices12 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:



Nope. He's not buried yet. Last I heard, he was supposed to be buried at Forest Lawn, but that was a temporary placement for him. I hear they signed papers and trying to get him buried at Neverland. i feel bad for the neighbors because it's going to be so much traffic


really?

But they should bury him as soon as possible,the man has been dead for more than 2 weeks and they still didn't bury him eek , I don't think thats right at all. sad



I believe in this state (CA) the law provides up to 21 days from date of death for the decedent to be buried. But that's at the very very latest. Usually legal issues tie things up. It's a very complex procedure to move a body from one county to the next even... The body has to go from one mortuary by proper transport, to another mortuary ...proper transport being ambulance or what have you. Generally there are fee's at each point to be paid as well. But if the body is not properly ... and it can get very expensive very quickly, I should think.

If the body is not properly transfered from one point, in one county to another, then no cemetary will accept the body for burial. Not in CA.

Maybe these laws got so strict because of the James Brown issue (even though that happened in a different state) but is was so public that that incident could have affected some of the law makers I dont know. But these laws are said to be for prevention of illness and public safety issues ... as well as to cut down other legal issues for families ;..such as someone taking off with the body and hiding it in a room somewhere with just A/C.


sheesh I didn't realize I was so full of details on legal issues. I dont know how I learned all this stuff. But I tell the truth, this is pretty much the way it goes...in general...if any one is interested.

hope i'm not boring everyone to tears with this stuff. sheesh.
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Reply #984 posted 07/11/09 5:19pm

Marrk

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Timmy84 said:

Lotus2unfld said:




Thank you Timmy84. cool


You're welcome. cool


You deserved the plaudits for that statement, simple and true.

Nobody has appealed to more races, colours or creeds than Mike, i think he knew that whilst he was around, That is his legacy and i truly hope he knew that.

What an amazing individual he was!. biggrin
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Reply #985 posted 07/11/09 5:23pm

Lotus2unfld

seeingvoices12 said:

Lotus2unfld said:




seeingvoices12 stop that. it's heartwrentching. my gosh ...that poor baby.

MJ has a handsome family though. I hadn't really seen any of these children now that they're grown a little.

Is that an MJ doll the child is holding in his hand? I noticed the little white glove on the right hand of the doll.


First of all hug

second: Yeah. its a MJ doll


thank you ... seeingvoices12 your so sweet hug right backatcha.
But I confess I almost feel a little guilty for receiving a hug that clearly should go to that child.

sending :hugs: and prayes out in a spirit of love for that child who cries.

peace
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Reply #986 posted 07/11/09 5:28pm

DesireeNevermi
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suga10 said:

Just curious to know what people think but these photos Michael seems to appear happy and content here in 2008, and his weight doesn't look ridiculously thin.






And then all of sudden in 2009 we have this frail looking man?? I just don't get this thing at all.


[Edited 7/11/09 17:21pm]




Wow...what a difference! sigh sigh I hope they get all those doctors. send them to jail for accomplices to overdose if that is indeed how MJ died per the full coroner examination and toxicology tests.
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Reply #987 posted 07/11/09 5:33pm

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Constructive Murder.
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Reply #988 posted 07/11/09 5:36pm

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Reply #989 posted 07/11/09 5:41pm

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wave Every time I see cute pictures or videos of him smiling like this, I get happy and wave at the screen or book I'm looking at. giggle



But now, the waves are followed by sad sighs. sigh
"You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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