Anxiety said:

Wow that's just ignorant for the girl to do that. I hope no shit went down like that for Marvin. Especially at a black club back then. Marvin, John nor Michael would want you to have a "moment of silence"!

Anxiety said:

i woulda booed her ass like folks did isaac sharon.

I wanna hear more stories of people who got pissed because someone dared try to be silent or say "listen to the words" of music by late artists like Barry White, Isaac Hayes, Luther Vandross and shit...

BSK3478 said:

it was awkward. nobody wanted to dis john lennon, but by the same token we all instantly hated her presumptuous ass. for that minute it was like a room full of drunk silent deer staring into headlights. afterwards, everyone IGNORED HER for the rest of the night.

Because he's a damn shit hopper and the main focus of the entire genre is on the words because they sure as hell don't have no music behind the words. Every time I ask a young person how the hell they can like that shit because it's nothing but a slow ass weak sounding beat, they say...."listen to the words, listen to what they are saying". I'm like "fuck that, if I just want to hear a damn message with no music behind it to back it up, I'll go read some damn poetry or something" He's probably upset because they were grooving to that music and not paying too much attention to the words. If they ever start paying attention to the music, the melody, and the groove again, trash like him will be going back to the gutter. He may be afraid of his future....I hope.

As I said before, with all these young people listening to Michael Jackson's music since his death, I hope it gets them wanting some actual music. Once they get a taste of some actual music and start to like it, they'll look back at the shit they were previously listening to, compare it to Michael Jackson's music, and see that what they were previously listening to was a bunch of nothing with some talking on top of it. Then they might go exploring other artists such as Prince, Rick James, Cameo, Lakeside, etc. I doubt it but all I can do is hope.

vainandy said:

You probably thought the same when Marvin Gaye died and what happened...

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

I think it's very sad that the media and the haters don't have the decency nor the intelligence to understand that their hateful words and mean-spirited accusations are no longer hurting Michael. He's gone now; no words can ever hurt him again. The only people who are being hurt are his fans, friends, and family...especially his three young children, who did nothing to deserve what they are having to go through right now.

Those kids shouldn't have to hear all the negativity that is being said about their daddy. I think it's absolutely revolting when people villify a child's parent in front of them...especially when that parent died soo suddenly and tragically. Since these people don't seem to have a problem destroying a child's memories of their parent, I often wonder if they are the same types of people who like to kick puppies, drown kittens, and club baby seals, because that's pretty much what they are doing in my eyes. Monsters is what they are to me at this moment. It's heartless, cruel, and wrong to continue to tear him down because his kids are the ones who are having to hear these things. It's just not right and it's pissing me off. They don't deserve to have to hurt anymore than they already do and these people should have more decency than to kick a child while they are down. Disgusting...absolutely disgusting.
[Edited 6/29/09 21:24pm]

LittleBLUECorvette said:

I don't know why he pretended he wasnt shy as a kid. This is the behaviour of a horribly shy person, thinking so hard about his answers yet still not giving very insightful ones. You can tell he's so nervous here but trying his best. It's cute though

Let's see....Marvin died in 1984. No, there was still great music in 1984. Uh...wait a minute....are you referring to the tragic event that happened in 1985 when Shitney came on the scene? Naw, she didn't kill music, she just killed funk. Music was still music but it was just dull as hell. Shit hop is what killed music.

estelle81 said:

That's why I said "let them talk" because they're showing themselves anyway.

vainandy said:

No consumers just made it popular.

I haven't chimed in yet. I was on a mini-holiday with my wife when we found out. It certainly stunned us both and left us sad, puzzled and pensive for the rest of that day. I've been affected by some other celebrity deaths before (Kurt Cobain, Michael Hutchence, Aaliyah, Left Eye), but this one has had the most impact on me, for reasons many have already elaborated more eloquently than I ever could. Quite simply, as troubled as he was and as much as I felt he wouldn't produce anything even close to the quality of his best work, it was somehow comforting to know that this superstar was still out there. I was hoping he could prove his doubters wrong with this tour. I wouldn't consider myself a huge MJ fan. He's probably among my top 30 artists, and I do have all of his studio albums since Off the Wall, but I can't imagine how hard this must be for the legions of big MJ fans worldwide and here on the org. I'm so sad for his children and his family, and I feel for bboy, Timmy, TotalAlisa and the scores of other MJ fans here.

He was a great pop star, and his legend is cemented. I hope that time will be kind to his reputation, and that his enormous contributions to music will provide the main focus of his legacy in years to come.

vainandy said:

Joseph & Katherine had always been legally separated for years (NEVER divorce) in later years. It's isn't news to me at all.

ViintageJunkiie said:

Exactly. And Joseph also apologize to all 9 of his children (especially Michael & Latoya) in later years for going too far as a strict father. And yes, all of them forgave him.

(Pic: Dr Conrad Murray)


30 Minute Delay in Calling 911 for Jackson
June 29
Link


It took up to a half-hour for paramedics to be called to Michael Jackson's home after the singer was found stricken in the bedroom of his rented mansion, an attorney for the firm representing the pop icon's doctor said Monday.

Matt Alford, a partner in the Houston law firm representing Dr. Conrad Murray, said the physician was unfamiliar with his surroundings and that delayed the call.

"He didn't know where he was, didn't know the physical address," Alford said in an interview with The Associated Press. "There was no land line, no phone in Jackson's room that would have allowed him to call. It was all happening so fast."


Alford said he doesn't know how long Murray performed CPR on the singer before rushing downstairs to find someone to call 911.

The first person Murray encountered was the chef, who then got one of Jackson's security guards. The security guard went with Murray to Jackson's room.

Once there, Murray told the security guard to call 911 while he continued CPR, Alford said. Murray "is still performing CPR while the security guard is speaking with emergency services on the phone," Alford said.

Fire department officials have said it took three minutes for paramedics to arrive at Jackson's home once they received the call for help. They spent 42 minutes working with Murray on Jackson before transporting the 50-year-old pop icon to UCLA Medical Center, where he was pronounced dead.

Alford said it took an estimated 20 to 30 minutes before the first call to rescue crews was made.

"There's no way anybody in any situation like that can get an exact time on it," Alford said.

Defending the doctor

The revelation about the delay in calling for emergency workers came as Murray's attorneys tried to explain and defend the cardiologist's actions.

In a series of interviews with national news outlets Monday, attorney Edward Chernoff explained the doctor's response to finding Jackson on Thursday in his bed, not breathing but with a faint pulse.


Chernoff, who represented Murray during a three-hour interview with Los Angeles police detectives on Saturday, told CNN the doctor performed CPR for several minutes before leaving the stricken singer's side. He dismissed those who questioned why Murray didn't follow suggested procedures and move Jackson from the bed to a harder surface too perform CPR.

"His first goal was to resuscitate Michael Jackson," Chernoff said. "He knows how to perform CPR and he performed it properly."

The doctor rode with Jackson in the ambulance and assisted emergency room doctors in trying to revive the pop star, Chernoff said. After he was pronounced dead, Murray spoke with Jackson's siblings LaToya and Jermaine, and spoke briefly with Jackson's mother, he told CNN.

Jackson's children asked to see their father after he died and, after a consultation with a psychiatrist, they were allowed to see him, Chernoff said.
[Edited 6/29/09 21:39pm]

Really? I never knew that. Ole Kate's got some good sense after all. It's a new world and a woman don't have to stay with and take no shit off no man, especially one that's an asshole and don't even look good. Hell, and she's got money too. Hell, she can get her a good looking young man! She could satisfy her every fantasy and get her a man that would have her trembling from head to toe!

vainandy said:

Hehehe, yeah Katherine has been separated from Joe for years.

estelle81 said:

That's what upsetting me the most. You have people exaggerating to straight up lying about Michael.He hasn't even been buried yet and they're trying to throw salt on fresh wounds. Unbelievable

Moonbeam said:

Thanks, Moonbeam.

its a shame so many people will be fighting over those children and whatever is left of MJ's fortune. so many wild stories out there. the man really didn't have any friends or people he could trust. his fans were the only ones who truly cared. he is probably up in heaven feeling so sad for the moment but maybe the future will be bright for his children. they are all that matters now. all those debtors need to go jump in front of a speeding train. shame on those vulchers (sp).

StarFishNCoffee50 said:

Mike was a meal ticket from 1966 onwards. Michael was eternally eight years old for the rest of his life.
[Edited 6/29/09 21:42pm]

Timmy84 said:

In the early part of the 1980's, Katherine did filed for divorce when she finally found out about Joseph having an affair with another woman (which was also THE same woman that gave birth to a girl that none of The Jackson siblings acknowledge as their half-sister even to this day!). But after receiving inspiration/advice from her own mother about family unity, Katherine withdrew her divorce papers.

StarFishNCoffee50 said:

I'm looking at pictures of them together. He was so happy with them

TonyVanDam said:

She also filed in 1973.

It's up for us fans to help with his legacy.

vainandy said:

You do realize that Nancy Grace is nothing more than a Bill O'Reilly with a vagina, right?!?

Nancy is so damn rude with she conducts an interview. And she doesn't always allow some of her guests to finish their comments neither.

I saw that in the movie but I thought she went back to him after her mother (played by Suge from Color Purple ) told her "home is where the heart is and your home is in California". I didn't know they lived separately.

CNN said cops took two bags of medication out of Michael Jacksons home. This is getting worse, Michael does not have a will? How can he not have a will!

TonyVanDam said:

She filed for divorce the year the half-sister was born too.