bellanoche said: Who thinks Janet Jackson was pushed out there before she was ready by Papa Jackson? I really got the feeling that she was NOT ready to do it but buckled under family pressure.
I don't think she was pushed. She did this because she wanted to. She loved her brother. She handled it very well. | |
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Aw, poor Janet.
She did a good job. I can't even imagine how hard this is for her... "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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bellanoche said: Who thinks Janet Jackson was pushed out there before she was ready by Papa Jackson? I really got the feeling that she was NOT ready to do it but buckled under family pressure.
I think it was kind of a weird statement that the entire family thought it was "too painful" to go out there, so they sent the baby of the family -- and the closest to Michael -- to represent them!! ...When Joseph's crazy butt was right there!! I have no choice but to respect their family dynamics and choices, but they get odder and odder in my mind. [Edited 6/28/09 21:05pm] Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.” | |
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heybaby said: bellanoche said: Who thinks Janet Jackson was pushed out there before she was ready by Papa Jackson? I really got the feeling that she was NOT ready to do it but buckled under family pressure.
I don't think she was pushed. She did this because she wanted to. She loved her brother. She handled it very well. I don't know. I know she LOVED her some MJ, her big brother and I just feel that although she handled herself as well as possible given the circumstances, it seemed like she wanted to be left alone to grieve in private. Joe seems like he's at home with the spotlight on him. perfection is a fallacy of the imagination... | |
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bellanoche said: heybaby said: I don't think she was pushed. She did this because she wanted to. She loved her brother. She handled it very well. I don't know. I know she LOVED her some MJ, her big brother and I just feel that although she handled herself as well as possible given the circumstances, it seemed like she wanted to be left alone to grieve in private. Joe seems like he's at home with the spotlight on him. I agree. Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.” | |
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Janet's words:
"My entire family wanted to be here tonight. But it was just too painful, so they elected me to speak to all of you. I'm gonna keep it very short, but I'd just like to say that to you Michael is an icon, but to us Michael is family and he will forever live in all of our hearts. On behalf of my family and myself, thank you for all of your love. Thank you for all of your support. We miss him so much. Thank you so much." | |
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I think the family sent her when they saw the fool that Joe made himself out to be on the CNN interview before the show
The internet is reporting she is the executor of his estate Under certain circumstances, urgent circumstances, desperate circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer. | |
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I walked away from that mess, and missed Janet. If anyone finds her segment online somewhere, I'd really appreciate a link. "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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WaterInYourBath said: I walked away from that mess, and missed Janet. If anyone finds her segment online somewhere, I'd really appreciate a link.
Video: http://www.janet-tv.com/p...hp?vid=188 | |
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VoicesCarry said: WaterInYourBath said: I walked away from that mess, and missed Janet. If anyone finds her segment online somewhere, I'd really appreciate a link.
Video: http://www.janet-tv.com/p...hp?vid=188 Thank U! "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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LiquidGold said: I think the family sent her when they saw the fool that Joe made himself out to be on the CNN interview before the show
The internet is reporting she is the executor of his estate That's interesting. I've heard Randy is the executor. Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
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"You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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VoicesCarry said: WaterInYourBath said: I walked away from that mess, and missed Janet. If anyone finds her segment online somewhere, I'd really appreciate a link.
Video: http://www.janet-tv.com/p...hp?vid=188 oh man. she got me thanks for posting. | |
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Lammastide said: LiquidGold said: I think the family sent her when they saw the fool that Joe made himself out to be on the CNN interview before the show
The internet is reporting she is the executor of his estate That's interesting. I've heard Randy is the executor. Huh, well we'll see. Randy is hard to believe for me. Janet makes more sense.Or the quiet one, Marlon Under certain circumstances, urgent circumstances, desperate circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer. | |
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bellanoche said: heybaby said: I don't think she was pushed. She did this because she wanted to. She loved her brother. She handled it very well. I don't know. I know she LOVED her some MJ, her big brother and I just feel that although she handled herself as well as possible given the circumstances, it seemed like she wanted to be left alone to grieve in private. Joe seems like he's at home with the spotlight on him. While it's true, that we all want to be left alone to grieve, Janet knew that the fans....HIS FANS needed to be acknowledged and thanked. Being the other identifiable Jackson, it was only fitting that she come out so no, I don't think she was pushed at all. I never thought that I would hear myself say this, but I think you are being a little bit too hard on Joe. Remember, no matter what kind of person he may seemed to be, he lost a son and is grieving also. "Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth" | |
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LiquidGold said: I think the family sent her when they saw the fool that Joe made himself out to be on the CNN interview before the show
That's what i'm thinking. I'm thinking Papa "Attention Whore" Joe escaped the retirement community and went rogue. The family "elected" someone responsible and who truly loved and didn't abuse Mike to represent them at the awards show. That said, she looked magnificent (but very, very sad - obviously). • Did you first think Prince was gay? •
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Rogue588 said: LiquidGold said: I think the family sent her when they saw the fool that Joe made himself out to be on the CNN interview before the show
That's what i'm thinking. I'm thinking Papa "Attention Whore" Joe escaped the retirement community and went rogue. The family "elected" someone responsible and who truly loved and didn't abuse Mike to represent them at the awards show. That's an interesting way to think about it. I can buy that. Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
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Rogue588 said: LiquidGold said: I think the family sent her when they saw the fool that Joe made himself out to be on the CNN interview before the show
That's what i'm thinking. I'm thinking Papa "Attention Whore" Joe escaped the retirement community and went rogue. The family "elected" someone responsible and who truly loved and didn't abuse Mike to represent them at the awards show. That said, she looked magnificent (but very, very sad - obviously). CNN reported that a BET rep said a family member would be there and when Joe was seen at the red carpet, it was assumed it was him. I know I assumed he would be representing the family and perhaps speaking. Thinks about it, what was the purpose of him being there if someone else was going to speak? He was there to party. Under certain circumstances, urgent circumstances, desperate circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer. | |
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My lord this is such a hot mess. But RIP MJJ..... | |
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If it was me as a father, I sure as hell would not be making guest appearances if i didn't have to, especially if I am grieving! The message you are about to hear are not meant for transmission. Should ONLY be accessed in the privacy of your mind. Words are so intense so if you dare to listen.Take off your clothes and meet me between the lines. | |
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LiquidGold said: Rogue588 said: That's what i'm thinking. I'm thinking Papa "Attention Whore" Joe escaped the retirement community and went rogue. The family "elected" someone responsible and who truly loved and didn't abuse Mike to represent them at the awards show. That said, she looked magnificent (but very, very sad - obviously). CNN reported that a BET rep said a family member would be there and when Joe was seen at the red carpet, it was assumed it was him. I know I assumed he would be representing the family and perhaps speaking. Thinks about it, what was the purpose of him being there if someone else was going to speak? He was there to party. Well, he did have that white chick read a prepared statement...then some "no comments" from Londell...followed by him pimpin his new shit. Classy. Should there really be any question why Michael turned out the way he did? Shit, other than dating that talentless midget, Janet's the most sane of 'em all... • Did you first think Prince was gay? •
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Timmy84 said: utopia7 said: okay BELL BIV DEVOE WAS FLY !!!
THEY WERE ON POINT !! GUY sounded like shet ....as time will test when you bring out dispensible acts that don't last long years from now. You know what is so weird about it: every "new jack swing" act admitted they were influenced by MJ. At best, he influenced disposable talent. Timmy you are so right ! influence is fine but it must be grounded by the artist knowing who they are the problem today this disposable talent is created. half of them had no endurance in their voices. I TAKE MY HAT OF TO PRINCE 99 TIMES AND MJ too !!! they did show after show after show. Imagine a artist like GUY trying to get through a 3 hour set | |
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Rogue588 said: LiquidGold said: CNN reported that a BET rep said a family member would be there and when Joe was seen at the red carpet, it was assumed it was him. I know I assumed he would be representing the family and perhaps speaking. Thinks about it, what was the purpose of him being there if someone else was going to speak? He was there to party. Well, he did have that white chick read a prepared statement...then some "no comments" from Londell...followed by him pimpin his new shit. Classy. Should there really be any question why Michael turned out the way he did? Shit, other than dating that talentless midget, Janet's the most sane of 'em all... I say her Randy (cause they were born in the 60's) and Marlon. Oh and Rebbie. I don't think Tito is that bad Oh wait, I think Randy beat up someone he was with Under certain circumstances, urgent circumstances, desperate circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer. | |
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VoicesCarry said: WaterInYourBath said: I walked away from that mess, and missed Janet. If anyone finds her segment online somewhere, I'd really appreciate a link.
Video: http://www.janet-tv.com/p...hp?vid=188 Thanks VC. | |
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ABeautifulOne said: utopia7 said: DRAKE IS FINE !! I'D SHOW HIM WHATS THE BEST !
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I know people love to shit on BET and the BET Awards. Since BET started having these awards shows back in '00 or '01. They've consistently been a better show than MTV has. I know that's not saying much, though. JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!! | |
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bellanoche said: heybaby said: I don't think she was pushed. She did this because she wanted to. She loved her brother. She handled it very well. I don't know. I know she LOVED her some MJ, her big brother and I just feel that although she handled herself as well as possible given the circumstances, it seemed like she wanted to be left alone to grieve in private. Joe seems like he's at home with the spotlight on him. I so agree with you smiling and clacking his dentures at Beyonces as she walks by like shes a christmas pie ! | |
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kitbradley said: Rogue588 said: "Queens Of Gospel"?
Somewhere Mahalia Jackson is looking down going . Hey! I thought Donnie McKlurkin was the reigning Queen of Gospel??? Ah hell f***ing no! | |
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Tiny and Toya...just ughh | |
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heybaby said: Tiny and Toya...just ughh
So Ghetto! | |
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