1. Eminem (31.1 million) – The Marshall Mathers LP (10.1 million)
2. The Beatles (27.6 million) – 1 (11.4 million) 3. Tim McGraw (24.3 million) – Greatest Hits (6 million) 4. Toby Keith (24.2 million) – Shock’n Y’All (4.4 million) 5. Britney Spears (23 million) – Oops!...I Did It Again (9.2 million) .....what has happened to the world since 2000 ... it's like a sick joke...really....wtf....the music industry killed itself... 6. Kenny Chesney (21.4 million) – When the Sun Goes Down (4.1 million) 7. Nelly (21.2 million) – Country Grammar (8.5 million) 8. Linkin Park (21.1 million) – Hybrid Theory (9.6 million) 9. Creed (20.4 million) – Human Clay (9.5 million) 10. Jay-Z (19.4 million) – The Black Album (3.3 million) 11. Nickelback (19.2 million) – All the Right Reasons (7.2 million) 12. Josh Groban (19.1 million) – Closer (5.7 million) 13. Rascal Flatts (18.9 million) – Feels Like Today (5.1 million) 14. Metallica (18.5 million) – Metallica (3.7 million) 15. Alan Jackson (18.5 million) – Drive (3.5 million) 16. NSYNC (18.4 million) – No Strings Attached (11.1 million) 17. Dixie Chicks (18.3 million) – Home (6 million) 18. Johnny Cash (17.9 million) – 16 Greatest Hits (2.8 million) 19. Kid Rock (17.6 million) – Cocky (5 million) 20. Celine Dion (17.6 million) – All the Way…A Decade of Song (5 million) http://www.justpressplay....world.html Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
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SoulAlive said: NoVideo said: One interesting note: The Beatles were the biggest selling rock band in America over the last decade (and that number is sure to rise considerably with the upcoming remasters.
Not bad for a band that broke up nearly 40 years ago. * * * * The biggest sellers in the US since 2000 are listed below, including mention of the album that sold best during the period. The figures come from Nielsen/SoundScan and are rounded to the nearest hundred thousand records sold. 1. Eminem (31.1 million) – The Marshall Mathers LP (10.1 million) 2. The Beatles (27.6 million) – 1 (11.4 million) 3. Tim McGraw (24.3 million) – Greatest Hits (6 million) 4. Toby Keith (24.2 million) – Shock’n Y’All (4.4 million) 5. Britney Spears (23 million) – Oops!...I Did It Again (9.2 million) 6. Kenny Chesney (21.4 million) – When the Sun Goes Down (4.1 million) 7. Nelly (21.2 million) – Country Grammar (8.5 million) 8. Linkin Park (21.1 million) – Hybrid Theory (9.6 million) 9. Creed (20.4 million) – Human Clay (9.5 million) 10. Jay-Z (19.4 million) – The Black Album (3.3 million) 11. Nickelback (19.2 million) – All the Right Reasons (7.2 million) 12. Josh Groban (19.1 million) – Closer (5.7 million) 13. Rascal Flatts (18.9 million) – Feels Like Today (5.1 million) 14. Metallica (18.5 million) – Metallica (3.7 million) 15. Alan Jackson (18.5 million) – Drive (3.5 million) 16. NSYNC (18.4 million) – No Strings Attached (11.1 million) 17. Dixie Chicks (18.3 million) – Home (6 million) 18. Johnny Cash (17.9 million) – 16 Greatest Hits (2.8 million) 19. Kid Rock (17.6 million) – Cocky (5 million) 20. Celine Dion (17.6 million) – All the Way…A Decade of Song (5 million) http://www.justpressplay....world.html The Beatles are the only amazing artists on that list.That says alot about today's music,doesn't it? Correction: It doesn't say a lot for the American music buying public. There is good, scrub that, great music out there. You're just not going to see or hear it in the traditional commercial circles. And it appears that a lot of Americans are too lazy and/or conditioned not to remove themselves from the homogenised commercial crud that FM radio & TV is infested with. As much as those stats would disagree with me, the billboard charts are NOT a fair representation of contemporary music talent today. | |
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TyphoonTip said: SoulAlive said: The Beatles are the only amazing artists on that list.That says alot about today's music,doesn't it? Correction: It doesn't say a lot for the American music buying public. There is good, scrub that, great music out there. You're just not going to see or hear it in the traditional commercial circles. And it appears that a lot of Americans are too lazy and/or conditioned not to remove themselves from the homogenised commercial crud that FM radio & TV is infested with. As much as those stats would disagree with me, the billboard charts are NOT a fair representation of contemporary music talent today. Amen to that. There's been a ton of great music this decade. Thank God for the internet, or else I wouldn't have been able to find a lot of it, though! Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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AlexdeParis said: asdfjkl said: Having said that, and realizing how subjective these things are, I don't know many black people who get the Beatles.
Billy Preston sure did. Plus,numerous black artists and bands have recorded Beatles songs.There's even a compilation album titled 'Motown Sings The Beatles' or something like that,lol. | |
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AlexdeParis said: SoulAlive said: Thanks! You're welcome. It's an easy date to remember. Rock Band: The Beatles also comes out that day. The CDs are released in a box set,right? Or individually? I want the box set. | |
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SoulAlive said: AlexdeParis said: You're welcome. It's an easy date to remember. Rock Band: The Beatles also comes out that day. The CDs are released in a box set,right? Or individually? I want the box set. I'd say both if I had to guess, but I know they'll be available individually. I'll probably buy my favorites (Rubber Soul, Sgt. Pepper's, Abbey Road, Past Masters 1 & 2) and then buy the rest the few months after that. "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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AlexdeParis said: SoulAlive said: The CDs are released in a box set,right? Or individually? I want the box set. I'd say both if I had to guess, but I know they'll be available individually. I'll probably buy my favorites (Rubber Soul, Sgt. Pepper's, Abbey Road, Past Masters 1 & 2) and then buy the rest the few months after that. I just found out that there will be two different box sets: One in stereo and one in mono And yes,the CDs will be sold individually,as well. | |
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Graycap23 said: How many of these people did the Beatles influence?
P-Funk Bootsy Ohio Players Prince James Brown Cameo The Barkays Meshell NDegeocello Mint Condition EWF The Isley Brothers The Brothers Johnson Marcus Miller Donna Hathaway Herbie Hancock Quincy Jones Ray Charles Hendrix The Beatles has a huge impact on 60s and early 1970s Soul music. I can't even count how many Soul albums I have with Beatles covers on them. A list of Soul & Funk & Jazz artists that come to mind: Ray Charles Earth Wind & Fire Funkadelic Ike & Tina Turner Duke Ellington The Jackson 5 Ella Fitzgerald Isaac Hayes The Bar-Kays The Meters Herbie Hancock Esther Phillips The Four Tops Otis Redding The Isley Brothers Bill Withers Gladys Knight & The Pips Wilson Pickett Maceo & All The King's Men Little Richard Jimi Hendrix Marvin Gaye Bobby Womack The Temptations Smokey Robinson Lou Rawls Nina Simone Al Jarreau Mongo Santamaria Oscar Peterson Quincy Jones Jimmy McGriff Lena Horne Silver Connection Ramsey Lewis The Neville Brothers Dionne Warwick The Mar-Keys Ben E. King Natalie Cole Lonnie Smith Eric Burdon & War Diana Ross The Supremes Count Basie Billy Preston Stevie Wonder Aretha Franklin Bloodstone Detroit Emeralds The Crusaders David "Fathead" Newman Willie Bobo Clarence Wheeler Al Green Bobby McFerrin There are artists who even covered entire Beatles albums - like George Benson with The Other Side of Abbey Road and Booker T. & The M.G.s with McLemore Avenue. This is of course only what I came up with. There are certainly more artists. Sorry, no Mint Condition though. Bottom line, the Beatles had a huge impact on Soul, Funk and Jazz music, as they had a huge impact on popular music in general. Anyone who'd deny this is incredibly ignorant. | |
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AlexdeParis said: Graycap23 said: Doing a cover song is NOT the SAME as influencing someone in their artistic endeavor.
Doing a cover song implies a certain appreciation for one's work. Demonstrating influence on a message board any other way would probably involve direct quotes from the artists in question. Exactly. And the quotes that I read so far from many of the artists I mentioned above show nothing but appreciation, respect and yes - influence. Which is quite ironic, in the case of Stax artists, for example. When the Beatles came to the first Stax Revues in London in the 60s, the Stax artists almost fainted, talking about how the Beatles had influenced their sound. The Beatles in return said that the early Stax recordings had a huge influence on their own sound .. Bottom line, they all have influenced each other to a certain degree. | |
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Graycap23 said: rialb said: Sure, but do you think the Beatles really had much of an influence on someone like James Brown? James also covered Blood, Sweat and Tears but I wouldn't say that they were an influence on him. [Edited 6/30/09 11:54am] They had ZERO influence on JB. Z E R O. Brown said that he admired and highly respected the Beatles. But you're right, there is no indication that they have actually influenced them. By the time the Beatles broke, Brown was already a huge star who didn't really shop around for other artists too much. But that doesn't mean that the Beatles had no influence on Soul music. Brown always did his very own thing. He was influenced by Louis Jordan and other early R&B artists, but once he found his own style, he stuck to it. | |
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Graycap23 said: Well hell....since the Beatles influenced so much.....I can BLAME them 4 the mess that is hiphop.
I think you can blame James Brown for that ... and we've already established that he wasn't influenced by the Beatles. | |
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Graycap23 said: This thread is funny. Just because u keep saying it does NOT make it true.
If take the Beatles completely out of the equation.....music would be 99.9% exactly the same as it is right now. Just because you keep saying that, it does NOT make it true. The fact is, the Beatles had a huge impact on popular music culture, and they definitely changed it. | |
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I can't count how many soul albums I have with Beatles covers on them
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SoulAlive said: I can't count how many soul albums I have with Beatles covers on them
When I was a child in the early 70s,my parents had a Dionne Warwick album which features a beautiful remake of "Yesterday".She did a great job with that song! Many of these artists even covered the Beatles multiple times, not just once. The Beatles were brilliant songwriters, I think that's their greatest legacy. | |
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MrSoulpower said: Graycap23 said: How many of these people did the Beatles influence?
P-Funk Bootsy Ohio Players Prince James Brown Cameo The Barkays Meshell NDegeocello Mint Condition EWF The Isley Brothers The Brothers Johnson Marcus Miller Donna Hathaway Herbie Hancock Quincy Jones Ray Charles Hendrix The Beatles has a huge impact on 60s and early 1970s Soul music. I can't even count how many Soul albums I have with Beatles covers on them. A list of Soul & Funk & Jazz artists that come to mind: Ray Charles Earth Wind & Fire Funkadelic Ike & Tina Turner Duke Ellington The Jackson 5 Ella Fitzgerald Isaac Hayes The Bar-Kays The Meters Herbie Hancock Esther Phillips The Four Tops Otis Redding The Isley Brothers Bill Withers Gladys Knight & The Pips Wilson Pickett Maceo & All The King's Men Little Richard Jimi Hendrix Marvin Gaye Bobby Womack The Temptations Smokey Robinson Lou Rawls Nina Simone Al Jarreau Mongo Santamaria Oscar Peterson Quincy Jones Jimmy McGriff Lena Horne Silver Connection Ramsey Lewis The Neville Brothers Dionne Warwick The Mar-Keys Ben E. King Natalie Cole Lonnie Smith Eric Burdon & War Diana Ross The Supremes Count Basie Billy Preston Stevie Wonder Aretha Franklin Bloodstone Detroit Emeralds The Crusaders David "Fathead" Newman Willie Bobo Clarence Wheeler Al Green Bobby McFerrin There are artists who even covered entire Beatles albums - like George Benson with The Other Side of Abbey Road and Booker T. & The M.G.s with McLemore Avenue. This is of course only what I came up with. There are certainly more artists. Sorry, no Mint Condition though. Bottom line, the Beatles had a huge impact on Soul, Funk and Jazz music, as they had a huge impact on popular music in general. Anyone who'd deny this is incredibly ignorant. I strongly disagree with you. Let's look at it this way. If there had never been a Beatles I agree that "white" music (basically rock) would have been significantly different from 1963 to the present. The Beatles had a big influence on the rock music of the '60s right up to today. However, would "black" music (basically R & B) be much different from 1963 to today if there had never been a Beatles? I can't say for certain but I think they had a much smaller influence on R & B than you are giving them credit for. Yes, there are lots of "black" artists that covered The Beatles but I think it is much harder to point to examples of their influence on R & B songwriting as opposed to rock songwriting. | |
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rialb said: I strongly disagree with you. Let's look at it this way. If there had never been a Beatles I agree that "white" music (basically rock) would have been significantly different from 1963 to the present. The Beatles had a big influence on the rock music of the '60s right up to today. However, would "black" music (basically R & B) be much different from 1963 to today if there had never been a Beatles? I can't say for certain but I think they had a much smaller influence on R & B than you are giving them credit for. Yes, there are lots of "black" artists that covered The Beatles but I think it is much harder to point to examples of their influence on R & B songwriting as opposed to rock songwriting. I think the primary influence of The Beatles on R&B is in the idea of applying imagination to create fantastic possibilities for instrumentation/song structure/production/lyric/artwork/promotion beyond playing the norm for the genre... My art book: http://www.lulu.com/spotl...ecomicskid
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rialb said: MrSoulpower said: The Beatles has a huge impact on 60s and early 1970s Soul music. I can't even count how many Soul albums I have with Beatles covers on them. A list of Soul & Funk & Jazz artists that come to mind: There are artists who even covered entire Beatles albums - like George Benson with The Other Side of Abbey Road and Booker T. & The M.G.s with McLemore Avenue. This is of course only what I came up with. There are certainly more artists. Sorry, no Mint Condition though. Bottom line, the Beatles had a huge impact on Soul, Funk and Jazz music, as they had a huge impact on popular music in general. Anyone who'd deny this is incredibly ignorant. I strongly disagree with you. Let's look at it this way. If there had never been a Beatles I agree that "white" music (basically rock) would have been significantly different from 1963 to the present. The Beatles had a big influence on the rock music of the '60s right up to today. However, would "black" music (basically R & B) be much different from 1963 to today if there had never been a Beatles? I can't say for certain but I think they had a much smaller influence on R & B than you are giving them credit for. Yes, there are lots of "black" artists that covered The Beatles but I think it is much harder to point to examples of their influence on R & B songwriting as opposed to rock songwriting. Well, the Beatles success, as well as the success of the whole 60's rock movement may have contributed to the change that occurred in Motown, when Marvin Gaye & Stevie Wonder were allowed creative freedom and began to explore more grown up themes. Maybe this would have happened anyway, but I do think that The Beatles & Dylan played a huge part in people taking pop music seriously as opposed to just enjoying it a lot. And even beyond the general idea of creative freedom, Marvin Gaye was adding orchestras to his music, he & Stevie were using exotic sounds that were beyond normal pop instrumentation & arrangements. This is something the Beatles did just a few years earlier. So while Motown might not have actually sounded like the Beatles, there is a very good chance in my mind that they were influenced by them. My Legacy
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ufoclub said: rialb said: I strongly disagree with you. Let's look at it this way. If there had never been a Beatles I agree that "white" music (basically rock) would have been significantly different from 1963 to the present. The Beatles had a big influence on the rock music of the '60s right up to today. However, would "black" music (basically R & B) be much different from 1963 to today if there had never been a Beatles? I can't say for certain but I think they had a much smaller influence on R & B than you are giving them credit for. Yes, there are lots of "black" artists that covered The Beatles but I think it is much harder to point to examples of their influence on R & B songwriting as opposed to rock songwriting. I think the primary influence of The Beatles on R&B is in the idea of applying imagination to create fantastic possibilities for instrumentation/song structure/production/lyric/artwork/promotion beyond playing the norm for the genre... hey that's what I just said in a more long-winded way! My Legacy
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NDRU said: rialb said: I strongly disagree with you. Let's look at it this way. If there had never been a Beatles I agree that "white" music (basically rock) would have been significantly different from 1963 to the present. The Beatles had a big influence on the rock music of the '60s right up to today. However, would "black" music (basically R & B) be much different from 1963 to today if there had never been a Beatles? I can't say for certain but I think they had a much smaller influence on R & B than you are giving them credit for. Yes, there are lots of "black" artists that covered The Beatles but I think it is much harder to point to examples of their influence on R & B songwriting as opposed to rock songwriting. Well, the Beatles success, as well as the success of the whole 60's rock movement may have contributed to the change that occurred in Motown, when Marvin Gaye & Stevie Wonder were allowed creative freedom and began to explore more grown up themes. Maybe this would have happened anyway, but I do think that The Beatles & Dylan played a huge part in people taking pop music seriously as opposed to just enjoying it a lot. And even beyond the general idea of creative freedom, Marvin Gaye was adding orchestras to his music, he & Stevie were using exotic sounds that were beyond normal pop instrumentation & arrangements. This is something the Beatles did just a few years earlier. So while Motown might not have actually sounded like the Beatles, there is a very good chance in my mind that they were influenced by them. Yeah, I think both you and ufoclub make some good points I'm just saying that The Beatles' influence on R & B is far less than their influence on rock. You mentioned Bob Dylan, I think that, at least in terms of lyrics, that he had a greater impact on R & B than The Beatles did. | |
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ufoclub said: rialb said: I strongly disagree with you. Let's look at it this way. If there had never been a Beatles I agree that "white" music (basically rock) would have been significantly different from 1963 to the present. The Beatles had a big influence on the rock music of the '60s right up to today. However, would "black" music (basically R & B) be much different from 1963 to today if there had never been a Beatles? I can't say for certain but I think they had a much smaller influence on R & B than you are giving them credit for. Yes, there are lots of "black" artists that covered The Beatles but I think it is much harder to point to examples of their influence on R & B songwriting as opposed to rock songwriting. I think the primary influence of The Beatles on R&B is in the idea of applying imagination to create fantastic possibilities for instrumentation/song structure/production/lyric/artwork/promotion beyond playing the norm for the genre... Exactly. The Beatles were also the first major group to use drum loops, samples and voice distortion on their records, elements that became very popular in Black Music later. To rialb - I did not say that the Beatles influence on Soul, R&B and Funk was equal to that on Rock music. But there was definitely a major impact that can't be denied, because they had a huge influence on popular music culture, and black artists were part of this culture. What would R&B like today without the Beatles? I have no idea, just like I have no idea what R&B would be like without Ray Charles and James Brown. It would be pure speculation. | |
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NDRU said: So while Motown might not have actually sounded like the Beatles, there is a very good chance in my mind that they were influenced by them. And Motown artists have never denied this influence. Only the revisionists who post on the org refuse to give credit where credit is due. | |
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rialb said: NDRU said: Well, the Beatles success, as well as the success of the whole 60's rock movement may have contributed to the change that occurred in Motown, when Marvin Gaye & Stevie Wonder were allowed creative freedom and began to explore more grown up themes. Maybe this would have happened anyway, but I do think that The Beatles & Dylan played a huge part in people taking pop music seriously as opposed to just enjoying it a lot. And even beyond the general idea of creative freedom, Marvin Gaye was adding orchestras to his music, he & Stevie were using exotic sounds that were beyond normal pop instrumentation & arrangements. This is something the Beatles did just a few years earlier. So while Motown might not have actually sounded like the Beatles, there is a very good chance in my mind that they were influenced by them. Yeah, I think both you and ufoclub make some good points I'm just saying that The Beatles' influence on R & B is far less than their influence on rock. You mentioned Bob Dylan, I think that, at least in terms of lyrics, that he had a greater impact on R & B than The Beatles did. The beatles definitely had a bigger influence on rock than they did on R&B My Legacy
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rialb said: I'm just saying that The Beatles' influence on R & B is far less than their influence on rock.
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MrSoulpower said: SoulAlive said: When I was a child in the early 70s,my parents had a Dionne Warwick album which features a beautiful remake of "Yesterday".She did a great job with that song! Many of these artists even covered the Beatles multiple times, not just once. The Beatles were brilliant songwriters, I think that's their greatest legacy. Agreed. While I differ in opinion with most of you guys in respects to the beatles contributions to pop music, I do agree that their songwriting structure certainly influenced their rock contemporaries and future rock generations. Did Prince ever deny he had sex with his sister? I believe not. So there U have it..
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MrSoulpower said: SoulAlive said: When I was a child in the early 70s,my parents had a Dionne Warwick album which features a beautiful remake of "Yesterday".She did a great job with that song! Many of these artists even covered the Beatles multiple times, not just once. The Beatles were brilliant songwriters, I think that's their greatest legacy. Indeed! They have written some of the most amazing songs of all-time."Yesterday" and "The Long And Winding Road" are two of my favorites. | |
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MrSoulpower said: NDRU said: So while Motown might not have actually sounded like the Beatles, there is a very good chance in my mind that they were influenced by them. And Motown artists have never denied this influence. Only the revisionists who post on the org refuse to give credit where credit is due. Yeah and as far as I know Motown artists were very open about their love for the Beatles. Hell the group met Berry and his family and the Motown artists in the '60s for chrissakes. | |
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THE BEATLES MICHAEL JACKSON say what u will, but those are the 3 SUPERNOVAS, no other act has burned brighter, and probably never will again. Apologies 2 PRINCE - u came close with Purple Rain. . | |
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RONNYRON said: ELVIS
THE BEATLES MICHAEL JACKSON say what u will, but those are the 3 SUPERNOVAS, no other act has burned brighter, and probably never will again. I am inclined agree with this. They defined their respective eras pretty well. If there was a second list, I would say Little Richard/Chuck Berry/Ray Charles (Elvis), Stevie Wonder/Marvin Gaye/Rolling Stones(The Beatles) and Prince (MJ) Apologies 2 PRINCE - u came close with Purple Rain. . "Old man's gotta be the old man. Fish has got to be the fish." | |
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