trueiopian said:

Where is Chris Rock right now? He needs to say something really positive.

There are so many people/bands out there who play instruments but give us shit and insepid, trivial, and boring music, are we supposed to say they are more "artistic" than MJ because they strummed guitars or played keyboards on stage?

No fucking way.
Regardless of whether MJ played what instrument or what not, he WAS an artist, and a musician of high artistic level. You don't come up with a fucking legendary song like Billie Jean, or Beat It or Stranger in Moscow by having no "artistic" merit or ability.

So please don't give me that bullshit "artistic" excuse to try and attack a legend like MJ.

Name me one so called "artist" who had the courage to finance their own epic 15 minute music video directed by a hollywood heavyweight back in the early 80s?

Is that not "artistic" enough for people?
What about creating a video with real gang members, asking Eddie Van Halen to do a fucking guitar solo on his song, is that not fucking artistic enough?

Or did MJ have to pull out his guitar himself and do the fucking solo himself to justify his "artistic" worth to people?

Please, don't try and insult people's intelligence here, we don't need smart ass bucktoothed idiots spouting this shit to insult a legend.

The music alone of MJ was artistic enough, but the sheer power and velocity of his appeal was generated through his artistic level.

He was on a fucking different level to most other people.

He along with Prince created some of the most greatest music ever made.

So please, just appreciate what the man did with his music.

Michael Jackson addicted to painkillers, received shot of Demerol before he died: ABC News


at 17:53 on June 26, 2009, EDT.
By THE CANADIAN PRESS

LOS ANGELES - ABC News is quoting a Los Angeles police source as saying Michael Jackson was addicted to painkillers, and was given an injection of Demoral one hour before he died.

A law enforcement official briefed on the pop star's death tells ABC that Jackson was heavily addicted to the painkiller OxyContin and received daily doses of the drug as well as Demerol.

Investigators want to talk to Jackson's personal physician who was with him when paramedics arrived, though they say he's not a suspect. His car was towed from Jackson's rented home.

Jackson died Thursday at the UCLA Medical Center. His brother Jermaine says it's believed he had a cardiac arrest.

An autopsy was done on Jackson on Friday, but it would be weeks before toxicology tests are completed.

After Jackson was acquitted on child molestation charges in 2005, prosecutors argued against returning to Jackson items including syringes, the drug Demerol and prescriptions for various drugs, mainly antibiotics, in different people's names.


©The Canadian Press, 2009

I don't know who's had demerol but when I had surgery the nurse came in with a giant needle full of that stuff and I told her to just give me half and she did and 30 seconds later I'm calling her back to the room. My resting heartrate before that shot 62 bpm. After - 148 bpm!

the doctor overdosed him.

Demerol (C 15 H 21 NO 2 • M.W. 321.8 ) is the trade name for meperidine hydrocholoride, manufactured by Sanofi-Synthelabo, Inc. This medication is an opiate agonist, and a Schedule II controlled substance with a high abuse liability.

Effects:
Despite being structurally distinct from morphine and related opiates, Demerol's effects on opiate receptors are similar to those of morphine. Demerol alters the perception of pain in the spinal cord and CNS but has no effect on afferent nerve endings. Although the exact physiologic action of opiates is not known, stimulation of opiate receptors ultimately reduces neurotransmitter release.

The effects of Demerol are felt 10-15 minutes after ingestion and typically last anywhere from 2-4 hours. Demerol’s effects are very similar to morphine, with sedation, respiratory depression and euphoria less intense than that of morphine. While nausea and vomiting are fairly common with oral use, it is less likely when administered via injection. Users of Demerol usually experience euphoria because the medication triggers the brain's pleasure centers while it blocks pain.

http://www.drugabusehelp....s/demerol/

DesireeNevermind said:

I experienced ZERO euphoria

Watching Lisa Minelli on Larry King and Miko Brando talking about Michael..

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I hope MJ had some euphoria when he passed. I hope he wasn't in any kind of pain.

Al Sharpton's statement was actually spot on.

Michael Jackson was not just another musical performer on the scene. He was a world-famous child performer, created a new level of pop stardom, crossed racial barriers with his music and videos (coincidentally almost single-handedly creating the video market as we know it), and became one of the best-selling artists in history.

I can only imagine what the Black community is feeling at the moment, losing one of their historical figures.

Se7en said:

good thing Al broke it down for us, otherwise we would have no idea about MJ

leafar said:

exactly no one said he had to...I think... ..we were just wondering.

luv4u said:

Prescription drugs are just like cocaine, heroin, etc. I was just watching John Belushi's "Final 24" and the effects certain drugs have on you is crazy. The way he was injected I was surprised that he didn't overdosed then.

Deepak Chopra ...bad spelling is talking about him....he used to teach him meditation...cool.

I know some of us are in mourning...
This girl has me cracking up,
what a DRAMA QUEEN!!!!

Timmy84 said:

prescription drugs are merely poison used to kill another type of poison

DesireeNevermind said:

When used to the limit, it's overkill tho. Sure people say it's medication but it could've been like Elvis, he could've used every prescription drug possible because of the high. But by some accounts, he used initially to stop headaches (from his 1984 Pepsi incident) and then overtime he found himself addicted to drugs such as painkillers. Elvis' thing started when he had problems sleeping. I just hope they don't misinterpret how he died the way they did Elvis saying he died of cardiac arrhythmia when he really died of polypharmacy. Mike's death definitely sounds like a VERY ACCIDENTAL drug overdose.
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dirtyman2005 said:

You're amazing.

dirtyman2005 said:

Love your posts. Make me laugh.
You speak the truth so well!

Timmy84 said:

my ex said he was the Judy Garland of this generation.

This is such a sad time. I have been trying to post since yesterday, the site/thread is loading very slowly. I can understand why, everyone is trying to share their stories and express their grief. I grew up on his songs, and I can't grasp that he is gone.
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Michael Jackson was the last great vaudevillian. He and his brothers were the last great stars that came out of vaudeville via the Chitlin' Circuit. He was the last of his kind....w/ him went a huge piece of our cultural foundations in the entertainment field. This is no exaggeration. People like him, Sammy Davis Jr, Sam Cooke, etc...opened doors for us far afield from entertainment.

trueiopian said:

Tell the truth. Or even last week where were the posers? If they was around it would made a huge difference to MJ.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Last weekend when I was in the hospital, they were shooting me up with Morphine, I was euphoric like a motherfucker! I never want to be that damn high again!

makes u wonder if he just got tired of being Michael Jackson

we created him, with a little help from his Wack-job of a father

sad sad ending to a pretty sad life

... ....

The impact of Michael Jackson on the musical landscape is undeniable.
His influence will remain.
His legend will be untouched.

What I am loving is that fans throughout the world are celebrating the music, the legacy he has given us.

For many who thought they wouldn't be affected, they feel just as numb as those who have followed him for decades. They may have lost interest in him over the years, but his impact on their own musical journey is hitting home now. His music has touched many throughout the world like many few do.

The weeks ahead will see the media flip the script and try to keep selling media based on innuendo, rumour and gossip. Until the cause of his death is known they will push anything to sell, and once it is known it will be another swarm of activity.

Over time though the artistry will remain.

Thank you Michael for giving me so many highs in my life, from seeing you perform live to each album release and new video.

The music, the art will live on.

Swa

This sums up my feelings about Michael best right now.

I Never can say goodbye to MJ.....


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Number23 said:

peb319 said:

When you're born you get a ticket to the freak show..when you're born in America, you get a front row seat.....
~unknown~

that is one way to put it
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