Anxiety said:

he has a point.

Riverpoet31 said:

Thriller was not QJ's product. I agree, his production was genious, but the best songs of the album are Michael's. And Rod Temperton did write three great songs as well - all QJ's product?

And yes he was a commercial artist. But being commercial means reaching a lot of people IS why now the whole world is sad.
You can be the greatest musician ever, as long as you're unable to connect with an audience you're not gonna be influencial.

People love MJ for what he has done to pop-culture. He reformed the way the male superstar has to perform, he set standards for sales and popularity.
People take him and say: He's great, but not as great as MJ.

Also you can't blame Americans for hypocrisy when it'sd actually the whole world that's moarning.

Riverpoet31 said:

"Hypocrite" is a noun.

Ottensen said:

ical is missing

Well fellow orgers... I played hooky today and with my mommy in tow, we took a quick short trip (via Indiana/Illinois Tollway) over to Gary IN to see what was happening at the childhood home of the Michael Jackson's. Black, brown, white, old, young, toddlers were all at 2300 Jackson Street to pay homage and celebrate Gary's native son. News crews from all parts of the country along with fans were taking in the sights and sound (the incredible music of The Jackson 5, The Jackson's and of course Michael Jackson) pulsated from a car with a serious sound system. Many took pictures, left homemade signs, drawings and teddy bears at 2300 Jackson St. At one point an impromptu dancing broke out as many fans showed off the trademark moves of MJ. Father's danced with their children and the atmosphere was one of jubilation than one of sorrow.

Here are just a few pics: I download more just as soon as my mother finds her cellphone cable! My pics aren't too good but this was a spare of the moment deal and I used my cheapo lil' $15 digital camera I keep in my car. Peace.

Local Gary IN. Paper Headline:


TD3's Photo's at 2300 Jackson St.
http://s81.photobucket.co...%20Photos/


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Beautiful sig Emerald. Do u mind if I save it?

still in shock.

It's been fun you guys. I've enjoyed my time here with ya'll

bboy87 said:

Remember, we'll need your payback mockery when P goes under

Song Dedicated to MJ.....

I heard only a few days before he died that he was 'disappointed' that 50 shows had been booked... when he only had wanted to do about 7-10 in total...

Riverpoet31 said:

Newsflash: Most "great artists" have alot of drama in their personal lives.Marvin Gaye,James Brown,Elvis Presley and yes,even Prince.These people were genuises on a musical level but had alot of flaws when it comes to their personalities.Examine the personal life of many great artists and you will find a few skeletons in their closet.Michael wasn't perfect,but so what? The world is remembering him for his amazing music,videos and performances.His impact on the world cannot be understimated.


As for your claim that Michael was a "child molester",that has NEVER been proven in a court of law.Rumors,lies and unproven accusations don't mean shit.The only thing that matters is hardcore PROOF,which you apparently don't have.

FunkyStrange said:

a bunch of us said he'd never do the 50 but I didn't think it would be because of death!

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

It probably would be because he felt he was forced to do it even if he agreed to do it. We truly don't know because Randy Phillips' account was that he was game to do the 50 shows. I just keep thinking that either he overdid it or he was over-medicated as Oxman said. I do believe he may have suffered an accidental overdose. I doubt it was suicide at all.
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SoulAlive said:

And the counterpoint to the guilty charge is that the parents of the boy(s) put their kids in harms way. That just simply cannot be ignored. Very well could be the trademark of complete opportunists.

I don't care if MJ diddled little boys (or if he didn't). It doesn't change the music.

Riverpoet31 said:

Your reluctant to show respect? who the hell fuck are you anyway? Nobody needs to know whether you show respect or not.

You say he made no impact on an artistic level? What school are you from?
The school of pompous cocks who think by strumming guitars and having "intelligent" lyrics is somehow superior to everything?

He wasn't relevant? What fucking hole were you fucking living in for the last 25 years? Saddam's bunker??

Only moronic individuals with the intelligence of a nun's cunt would come up with such pathetic ideas.

You think "Stranger In Moscow" is not a relevant or worthy of artistic merit?
Only a dumb fuck would come up with such a suggestion.

You call Thriller a "quincy jones product".
As far as I recall, it was Michael Jackson who wrote Billie Jean, Beat It completely by himself, came up with the melodies etc.

Its quite fitting how these pompous "intelligent" wannabe's come out of the woodwork, thinking they are somehow smart asses with the knowledge to tell us all something, when in actual fact, they are probably sad individuals who probably live their lives full of jealousy and struggle to cope with their pathetic existence in life.

All i can say is fuck anyone who thinks MJ was not a musician, or not "artistic" enough, you can suck my big cock you ignorant fucks.

dumb fucks, no respect for anyone.

JackieBlue said:

so true, love you mike.

outside of personal family loss, i've never experienced such a loss in life.

The World is showing you love now though eh?

Bless you barrier-breaker.

Riverpoet31 said:

Also, if you don't mind, who are those so called musicians who have made such an impact on you on an artistic level?

Please go ahead, name these artists, im curious to know your "artistic" level yardstick.

Don't be a coward, tell us. That's if you got the cunt or testicles (depending on whether you're female or male)

did somebody say big cock?

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Yes,
and everyone knows its big and juicy.

Now let's see if that coward can tell us who these great musicians are who apparently are so high on the "artistic level".


For me, Jimi Hendrix, James Brown were the greatest, along with MJ, and Prince is one of the great ever too.

But i'm curious to hear who these other so called high "artistic" level musicians are that Riverpoet is having ejaculations over.

dirtyman2005 said:

Thanks dirtyman for that post. This guy obviously doesn't know what the term 'ACQUITTED" or 'NOT GUILTY' is. No impact? The only impact that i'll have with riverpoet is shoving my foot up his ass. This is how you show respect to a man that just died? Pathetic, low-life loser. And i'm curious also of riverpoet's so called 'artistic' artists he loves sooooo much. *coughjonasbrotherscough*
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N this looks like the last stop before crazytown.

VoicesCarry said:

Thats exactly what I was thinking. I always thought they were very much alike actually, much more than Elvis.

lazycrockett said:

Question: Where the f--k were are these mourners when MJ was on trial? Why is everyone throwing a fake front!?!?

trueiopian said:

I feel the same way you feel but I won't expound on that but it shows you they'll appreciate you when you leave this earth but then you call them a dog when you're alive. It's alright. Brush the dirt off your shoulders, lol.

You don't need to appreciate the man's music to show respect for a fellow human's death. He deserves the same respect and prayers as anyone else.

I grew up on MJ from the last 70s all the way through the late 80s. He was my favorite when Thriller came out, and I even had the red "leather" jacket from the Thriller video (not the Beat It one).

I always got a sentimental smile when I heard his music - not once did I ever think "man am I sick of hearing this". I think that is probably because he did not oversaturate the market with his solo work which makes every album special in its own way.

I don't agree with or condone how he handled his adult life, but that's none of my business. He was not a role model to me, or a saviour. What he was to me was pure entertainment, and in that capacity he was one of the best I've heard (I save that top spot for this site's namesake).

Michael, thank you for the music and I hope you find the peace you could not find on this Earth. Your music will live on through the ages.

Transcript of 911 call in Michael Jackson death


at 18:04 on June 26, 2009, EDT.
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Transcript of 911 call placed from Michael Jackson's Los Angeles mansion at 12:21 p.m. Thursday:

Operator: Fire and paramedics 33. What is the address of the emergency?

Caller: Yes sir, I need an ambulance as soon as possible, sir.

Operator: OK, sir. What is your address?

Caller: It's 100 North Carolwood Drive, Los Angeles, California, 90077.

Operator: You said Carolwood?

Caller: Carolwood Drive, yes.

Operator: OK, sir. What is the phone number that you're calling from?

Caller: (REDACTED)

Operator: And what exactly happened?

Caller: We have a gentleman here that needs help and he's not breathing yet. He's not breathing and we're trying to pump him but he's not. He's not.

Operator: OK, how old is he?

Caller: He's 50 years old, sir.

Operator: 50? OK, he's not breathing? Not conscious.

Caller: No, he's not breathing. He's not conscious sir.

Operator: Do you have him on the floor? Where's he at right now?

Caller: He's on the bed sir. He's on the bed. We need them.

Operator: Let's get him on the floor. We're already on the way. I'm going to as much as I can to help you on the phone. We're already on our way. Did anybody see him?

Caller: Yes, we have a personal doctor with him, sir.

Operator: Oh, you have a doctor there?

Caller: Yes, but he's not responding to anything. He's not responding to CPR or anything.

Operator: Oh, OK, we're on our way there. If your guy is doing CPR and you're instructed by a doctor, he's a higher authority than me. And he's there on scene. Did anybody witness what happened?

Caller: No, just the doctor, sir. The doctor has been the only one there.

Operator: OK, so the doctor saw what happened?

Caller: Doctor, did you see what happened, sir?

(Someone spoke in the background but the words were not intelligible.)

Caller: Sir, if you can please.

Operator: We're on our way. I'm just passing these questions on to my paramedics while they're on the way there, sir.

Caller: Thank you sir. He's pumping his chest but he's not responding to anything. Please.

Operator: OK, OK. We're on our way. We're less than a mile away from Cedars and we'll be there shortly.


©The Canadian Press, 2009

i like what rev al said, paraphrasing, that a lot of these people with statements now wouldn't be seen w/ mj even yesterday morning before his death.

lmp posts this long blog about him, about her being 'gutted' over his death. yet she and her mother trashed this man when she was out promoting her album(s). acted like she had no relationship with him after their divorce in spite of the fact that there are all sorts of pictures out there of them after the divorce. i don't watch her show, but as i understand it, oprah even got in on the act when the presleys appeared. oprah may have been a popular talk show host, but that interview with mj enabled her to be seen in the same realm as barbara walters when it came to celebrity interviews. the celebs started flocking to her after mj. (well, to be fair she hasn't made a statement!)

i remember being on an mj board at the time of the trial and someone posted quincy's blog from the huffington post. it wasn't very complimentary coming from someone who now talks about mj being 'his brother'.

cher, too, not so charitable in her comments a few years ago. mccartney mocking mj's speaking voice so contemputuously that the bbc(?) edited his comments b/c of fears would be considered political incorrect. but now he feels privleged to have worked with the 'manboy'.

whatever, peeps.

i still have a vague memory of the diana ross special with the j5 and that crazy cartoon show and the record on the back of the alphabet cereal box. i was there for the robot *and* the moonwalk.

i feel so numb. i haven't been able to cry yet, but i will. i will.