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daPrettyman said: InsatiableCream said: that's her only official so far but she has TONS of songs out there Since you guys are the GaGa experts, can you tell me how she got in the biz? I have done a few searches and have never gotten a good bio. I didn't know about her until I heard a few gay friends talking about her early last year (before "Just Dance" hit it big). I even saw a few clips of her on YouTube performing at various clubs. I thought she was good. My problem with some of the comments you guys are saying is that she's so talented. Well, she is, but do you think she has what it takes to sustain a long-term career? So far, I don't see it. Not dissing her, just stating it as I see it. I downloaded "The Fame" and really like it. It's an excellent pop album. I just wonder if she has what it takes to be in this business for 5 or more years. Especially with the way the music biz is now. From what I've read she started out performing in various clubs. She also was songwriting for other artists and I think one of the producers she was working with, RedOne or Akon realized she had real talent and decided she should record her own album, which ended up being "The Fame". Better yet, here's what her Wikipedia page says: Stefani Joanne Angelina Germanotta (born March 28, 1986),[9] better known by her stage name Lady Gaga, is an American singer, songwriter and musician. At Interscope Records, she worked as a songwriter penning music for established artists, such as Akon. During the same time, she began to play her music in clubs throughout New York City. After Akon recognized that Gaga also had vocal talent, he signed her to a joint deal with his own label, Kon Live Distribution. Gaga then started to work on new material for her debut album...
Gaga was originally signed to Def Jam when she was 19 years old; it happened after the record executive L. A. Reid heard her singing down the hallway from his office.[20] However Gaga states Reid never met with her.[20] "I used to wait outside his office for hours, hoping he'd take meetings with me about my songs, but it never happened."[20] After three months, Reid dropped Gaga from the label.[20] She was spotted a couple of years later by the music executive Vincent Herbert and signed to Interscope in January 2008. Impressed by her ear for melody and knack for spotting a great hook, various acts have hired her as a songwriter, including Akon's Konvict label, as well as Fergie, Pussycat Dolls, Britney Spears and New Kids on the Block.[14] Gaga also sparked the interest of Interscope's Chairman Jimmy Iovine in early 2007.[20] He offered her a label deal via Streamline/Interscope and partnered her with singer-songwriter Akon.[20] It was Akon, who, upon hearing her sing a reference vocal for one of his tracks, recognized that Gaga also had vocal talent.[21] Akon ultimately convinced Jimmy Iovine to sign her to a joint deal with his own label, Kon Live Distribution.[20] Akon would later call Gaga his "franchise player"...[22] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Gaga People should read her whole Wikipedia page, it's pretty interesting. To answer your other question on if I think she can sustain a long-term career, the answer is yes, I do. Here's what I think it takes to sustain a long-term career in the music biz: Creativity, a very good imagination, the ability to create or at least recognize a good melody and good hooks when they hear it, and at least some amount of musical talent. Yes musical talent can carry you a long way but--creativity, a good imagination and an ability to think out of the box goes alot longer. Its also good to be a risk-taker as well. And I think Lady Gaga possesses all of those traits and then some. What I love about her is her creativity and uniqueness and the great pop melodies she puts out. She's doing something that isnt being done in the pop music scene RIGHT NOW, I dont care if what she's doing has already been done before, what I like is she's doing something that no one else is doing right now, she's a breath of fresh air in the stale stagnant music industry of today. She def. has what it takes to last in this biz as long as she keeps her out of the box way of thinking and her great musical sense. Who knows what direction her future cds will take on musically? I can see her doing a different variety of styles because she's got that adventurous spirit about her. And even if she decided she didnt want to continue her career as a singer/performer, she could continue in the biz and a songwriter/producer for other artists  MJ L.O.V.E: https://www.facebook.com/...689&type=2 / YOUTUBE: http://www.youtube.com/us...nderSilent | |
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NaughtyKitty said:[quote] daPrettyman said: From what I've read she started out performing in various clubs. She also was songwriting for other artists and I think one of the producers she was working with, RedOne or Akon realized she had real talent and decided she should record her own album, which ended up being "The Fame". Better yet, here's what her Wikipedia page says: Stefani Joanne Angelina Germanotta (born March 28, 1986),[9] better known by her stage name Lady Gaga, is an American singer, songwriter and musician. At Interscope Records, she worked as a songwriter penning music for established artists, such as Akon. During the same time, she began to play her music in clubs throughout New York City. After Akon recognized that Gaga also had vocal talent, he signed her to a joint deal with his own label, Kon Live Distribution. Gaga then started to work on new material for her debut album...
Gaga was originally signed to Def Jam when she was 19 years old; it happened after the record executive L. A. Reid heard her singing down the hallway from his office.[20] However Gaga states Reid never met with her.[20] "I used to wait outside his office for hours, hoping he'd take meetings with me about my songs, but it never happened."[20] After three months, Reid dropped Gaga from the label.[20] She was spotted a couple of years later by the music executive Vincent Herbert and signed to Interscope in January 2008. Impressed by her ear for melody and knack for spotting a great hook, various acts have hired her as a songwriter, including Akon's Konvict label, as well as Fergie, Pussycat Dolls, Britney Spears and New Kids on the Block.[14] Gaga also sparked the interest of Interscope's Chairman Jimmy Iovine in early 2007.[20] He offered her a label deal via Streamline/Interscope and partnered her with singer-songwriter Akon.[20] It was Akon, who, upon hearing her sing a reference vocal for one of his tracks, recognized that Gaga also had vocal talent.[21] Akon ultimately convinced Jimmy Iovine to sign her to a joint deal with his own label, Kon Live Distribution.[20] Akon would later call Gaga his "franchise player"...[22] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Gaga People should read her whole Wikipedia page, it's pretty interesting. To answer your other question on if I think she can sustain a long-term career, the answer is yes, I do. Here's what I think it takes to sustain a long-term career in the music biz: Creativity, a very good imagination, the ability to create or at least recognize a good melody and good hooks when they hear it, and at least some amount of musical talent. Yes musical talent can carry you a long way but--creativity, a good imagination and an ability to think out of the box goes alot longer. Its also good to be a risk-taker as well. And I think Lady Gaga possesses all of those traits and then some. What I love about her is her creativity and uniqueness and the great pop melodies she puts out. She's doing something that isnt being done in the pop music scene RIGHT NOW, I dont care if what she's doing has already been done before, what I like is she's doing something that no one else is doing right now, she's a breath of fresh air in the stale stagnant music industry of today. She def. has what it takes to last in this biz as long as she keeps her out of the box way of thinking and her great musical sense. Who knows what direction her future cds will take on musically? I can see her doing a different variety of styles because she's got that adventurous spirit about her. And even if she decided she didnt want to continue her career as a singer/performer, she could continue in the biz and a songwriter/producer for other artists Lady GaGa has balls. That's why I think she'll stick around. She's a successful, smart woman in charge of her career and image to an extent that I don't think the industry has seen since Madonna. Yes, I said it. And that's why I like her. | |
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VoicesCarry said: NaughtyKitty said: People should read her whole Wikipedia page, it's pretty interesting. To answer your other question on if I think she can sustain a long-term career, the answer is yes, I do. Here's what I think it takes to sustain a long-term career in the music biz: Creativity, a very good imagination, the ability to create or at least recognize a good melody and good hooks when they hear it, and at least some amount of musical talent. Yes musical talent can carry you a long way but--creativity, a good imagination and an ability to think out of the box goes alot longer. Its also good to be a risk-taker as well. And I think Lady Gaga possesses all of those traits and then some. What I love about her is her creativity and uniqueness and the great pop melodies she puts out. She's doing something that isnt being done in the pop music scene RIGHT NOW, I dont care if what she's doing has already been done before, what I like is she's doing something that no one else is doing right now, she's a breath of fresh air in the stale stagnant music industry of today. She def. has what it takes to last in this biz as long as she keeps her out of the box way of thinking and her great musical sense. Who knows what direction her future cds will take on musically? I can see her doing a different variety of styles because she's got that adventurous spirit about her. And even if she decided she didnt want to continue her career as a singer/performer, she could continue in the biz and a songwriter/producer for other artists Lady GaGa has balls. That's why I think she'll stick around. She's a successful, smart woman in charge of her career and image to an extent that I don't think the industry has seen since Madonna. Yes, I said it. And that's why I like her. PREACH! And the choir said AMEN!!  MJ L.O.V.E: https://www.facebook.com/...689&type=2 / YOUTUBE: http://www.youtube.com/us...nderSilent | |
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NaughtyKitty said: VoicesCarry said: Lady GaGa has balls. That's why I think she'll stick around. She's a successful, smart woman in charge of her career and image to an extent that I don't think the industry has seen since Madonna. Yes, I said it. And that's why I like her. PREACH! And the choir said AMEN!! let's give her another album... though i see the gays are just as fractured over as they are with Madge so it's a sign. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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comegetwild said: "The songs we used 2 sing used 2 mean something now they're just bland, like U're drummer... WHERE'S U'RE REAL DRUMMER?"
What is wrong with U people? This is cheese, and not even good cheese it's pure shite cheese. I am sick 2 death of hearing this talentless bimbo's name. I thought on a site dedicated 2 Prince, people would at least have some musical taste. If this is what U call a good performance then go join a Britney Spears or Christina Aguilera site. I mean really, have our standards fallen that low? As Public Enemy once famously said "Don't believe the hype" I expected more from U people. 
Can't we talk about someone more deserving of our attention like, I don't know... Jack White. He may not be the best guitarist the world has ever seen but at least he's trying 2 make real music and he's a thousand times more talented than this shite. . [Edited 6/22/09 5:51am] http://prince.org/msg/8/311103 “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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midnightmover said: comegetwild said: "The songs we used 2 sing used 2 mean something now they're just bland, like U're drummer... WHERE'S U'RE REAL DRUMMER?"
What is wrong with U people? This is cheese, and not even good cheese it's pure shite cheese. I am sick 2 death of hearing this talentless bimbo's name. I thought on a site dedicated 2 Prince, people would at least have some musical taste. If this is what U call a good performance then go join a Britney Spears or Christina Aguilera site. I mean really, have our standards fallen that low? As Public Enemy once famously said "Don't believe the hype" I expected more from U people.
Can't we talk about someone more deserving of our attention like, I don't know... Jack White. He may not be the best guitarist the world has ever seen but at least he's trying 2 make real music and he's a thousand times more talented than this shite. . [Edited 6/22/09 5:51am] http://prince.org/msg/8/311103 U're point being what exactly? That I should find another forum? 21 years a prince fan and because I won't buy in2 the media hype surrounding the latest fashion I should leave? Well, I hope U like birds cuz I'm flipping one atcha. 
If that wasn't U're point then my apologies, please make U'eself clearer.  [Edited 6/23/09 14:15pm] | |
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Was she classically trained ala Alicia Keys or from the streets ala Joss Stone.
I love the way they write these bio's ..... piano from age 4, hits for other stars.... all of who I think are complete rubbish. media hype bs.... Music is the best... | |
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aalloca said: Was she classically trained ala Alicia Keys or from the streets ala Joss Stone.
I love the way they write these bio's ..... piano from age 4, hits for other stars.... all of who I think are complete rubbish. media hype bs.... she was playing gay clubs with another another girl doing all kinds of wild performance in the NY Club scene. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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That was fun. I still find her completely ridiculous, but it was entertaining. She's good at her job. Listen to me on The House of Pop Culture podcast on itunes http://itunes.apple.com/u...d438631917 | |
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I found the comment about Prince fans being held to a higher musical appreciation interesting . . . being that Prince himself has "lessened" his musical tastes for the likes of the PCD, Beyonce, etc.
Now flip the script: I bet if Prince jumped on the Lady GaGa bandwagon and swore up and down that she is talented, etc. . . .Ms. GaGa's approval rating would go up 75% on the org  | |
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Lawd, this chile has sparkles shooting out her titties  | |
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christ her cd has been on the charts for 33 weeks now
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4everYoung said: I found the comment about Prince fans being held to a higher musical appreciation interesting . . . being that Prince himself has "lessened" his musical tastes for the likes of the PCD, Beyonce, etc.
Now flip the script: I bet if Prince jumped on the Lady GaGa bandwagon and swore up and down that she is talented, etc. . . .Ms. GaGa's approval rating would go up 75% on the org Maybe that's why Bria gets so much love on here then huh?  | |
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VoicesCarry said: comegetwild said: If U can seriously call what she does "Talent" without laughing then fine.
I suppose U go 2 McDonalds 2 get U're gourmet meals 2 dontcha? "Ooh the chef is sooo talented." Behave, how old are U, 12? I'm not responding further to your trollish insults. If you're passionate about other artists, I suggest you bother making threads for them. Have a great day. dont be bothered.....he thinks he is behaving well by calling others 12...probably a Prince fan that is somewhat stuck in the past... | |
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101 said: VoicesCarry said: I'm not responding further to your trollish insults. If you're passionate about other artists, I suggest you bother making threads for them. Have a great day. dont be bothered.....he thinks he is behaving well by calling others 12...probably a Prince fan that is somewhat stuck in the past... U don't know me, don't presume U do but even so U may have a point... 2 this I say, if Lady Gaga represents the future of music then I'm happy 2 stay in the past cuz that's where the real music lives. Tell me I'm wrong.  | |
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Krytonite said:  This was the cheesiest thing I've seen all year. Why did she have to ruin a fairly decent performance by ending it with cheese like this. Terrible. Her Poker Face song is catchy, but I can guarantee it that I won't be buying her cd. | |
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4everYoung said: I found the comment about Prince fans being held to a higher musical appreciation interesting . . . being that Prince himself has "lessened" his musical tastes for the likes of the PCD, Beyonce, etc.
Now flip the script: I bet if Prince jumped on the Lady GaGa bandwagon and swore up and down that she is talented, etc. . . .Ms. GaGa's approval rating would go up 75% on the org That may be true of some, but I have been highly critical on calling out Prince on projects that were less than stellar. I just truly think that the current pop radio stars are just not that good, and the production lacks the instrumentation/production skills that can be found on good 70's and 80's pop. I just had to chime in cause there have been several threads on this chick. Music is the best... | |
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In my opinion she's just an updated version of Madonna ... only with a better voice but crappier music. I just don't see what the hype is about. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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goodlookingmofo said: she's a great artist but more importantly she has a great ass; very fuckable.
• Did you first think Prince was gay? •
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I downloaded "The Fame" today after months and months of Ga Ga Resistance.
It fuckin ROCKS! It's Pop Heaven. Not brilliant in a deep life-changing way, just fun. The songs already out are definitely standouts, as are "Money Honey", "The Fame" and "Summerboy" (Fame and Summerboy are very Gwen Stefani-ish!). My fave right now is "Beautiful, Dirty, Rich". There really are no real fails on the album. "Eh-Eh" does feel a bit like filler and too "sweet" for La GaGa, but it's not a bad song. Ironically, I'd pick "Boys Boys Boys" as my least favorite. She's earned this Gay's respect. [Edited 6/24/09 20:41pm] | |
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johnart said: I downloaded "The Fame" today after months and months of Ga Ga Resistance.
It fuckin ROCKS! It's Pop Heaven. Not brilliant in a deep life-changing way, just fun. The songs already out are definitely standouts, as are "Money Honey", "The Fame" and "Summerboy" (Fame and Summerboy are very Gwen Stefani-ish!). My fave right now is "Beautiful, Dirty, Rich". There really are no real fails on the album. "Eh-Eh" does feel a bit like filler and too "sweet" for La GaGa, but it's not a bad song. Ironically, I'd pick "Boys Boys Boys" as my least favorite. 
She's earned this Gay's respect.
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johnart said: I downloaded "The Fame" today after months and months of Ga Ga Resistance.
It fuckin ROCKS! It's Pop Heaven. Not brilliant in a deep life-changing way, just fun. The songs already out are definitely standouts, as are "Money Honey", "The Fame" and "Summerboy" (Fame and Summerboy are very Gwen Stefani-ish!). My fave right now is "Beautiful, Dirty, Rich". There really are no real fails on the album. "Eh-Eh" does feel a bit like filler and too "sweet" for La GaGa, but it's not a bad song. Ironically, I'd pick "Boys Boys Boys" as my least favorite. She's earned this Gay's respect.
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johnart said: I downloaded "The Fame" today after months and months of Ga Ga Resistance.
It fuckin ROCKS! It's Pop Heaven. Not brilliant in a deep life-changing way, just fun. The songs already out are definitely standouts, as are "Money Honey", "The Fame" and "Summerboy" (Fame and Summerboy are very Gwen Stefani-ish!). My fave right now is "Beautiful, Dirty, Rich". There really are no real fails on the album. "Eh-Eh" does feel a bit like filler and too "sweet" for La GaGa, but it's not a bad song. Ironically, I'd pick "Boys Boys Boys" as my least favorite. She's earned this Gay's respect.
[Edited 6/24/09 20:41pm] >>>It's Pop Heaven. Not brilliant in a deep life-changing way, just fun.<<< wow. someone who gets it! welcome! If you just downloaded today , you have just begun to get sucked in .
Boys Boys Boys is chessey fun at its best.
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newpower99 said: johnart said: I downloaded "The Fame" today after months and months of Ga Ga Resistance.
It fuckin ROCKS! It's Pop Heaven. Not brilliant in a deep life-changing way, just fun. The songs already out are definitely standouts, as are "Money Honey", "The Fame" and "Summerboy" (Fame and Summerboy are very Gwen Stefani-ish!). My fave right now is "Beautiful, Dirty, Rich". There really are no real fails on the album. "Eh-Eh" does feel a bit like filler and too "sweet" for La GaGa, but it's not a bad song. Ironically, I'd pick "Boys Boys Boys" as my least favorite. She's earned this Gay's respect.
[Edited 6/24/09 20:41pm] I've always said: Long after Top 40 drops you, The Gays will keep you in your big house and shiny car.
I can't handle the chorus of Boys Boys Boys (especially the "We love them!" part) because all I hear is Randy Newman's "I Love LA" >>>It's Pop Heaven. Not brilliant in a deep life-changing way, just fun.<<< wow. someone who gets it! welcome! If you just downloaded today , you have just begun to get sucked in .
Boys Boys Boys is chessey fun at its best.
If the gays are on board , she will be around for decades. [Edited 6/25/09 6:39am] I've always said: The Gays will keep you in your big house and shiny car long after Top 40 drops you.
I can't get past "Boys Boys Boys" chorus (the "We love them!" in particular. All I hear is Randy Newman's "I Love LA". 
This might not be an issue for younger fans.
I remember hearing about her before she was on Logo or mainstream (also through the gays). Did she have any club songs out? Cuz when they started showing her I was like, wait, she's not new. You don't forget a name like Lady GaGa.
And I was really hard on her. Very unsure if she was worthy of the praise, or if it was just queens fallin head over heels because of her drag-queenish ways (nothing wrong with that, hello...Cher ).
Three things won me over and convinced me to get the album: 1)The "big dick" Interview.pretty much sealed the deal. I miss this type of media hype. Not since the 80's (Prince/Madonna..) Singers/Performers wanna be "real" now. They don't create the bigger than life personas about them like they once did. Well, few do anyway. 2)Music video for "Paparazzi". Anyone who works Crippled Glamour gets my vote! 3)The performance posted on this thread. I remember when the finale's for MTV(who?) Awards used to be exciting. Again..Prince...Madge... [Edited 6/25/09 7:21am] | |
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comegetwild said: midnightmover said: U're point being what exactly? That I should find another forum? 21 years a prince fan and because I won't buy in2 the media hype surrounding the latest fashion I should leave? Well, I hope U like birds cuz I'm flipping one atcha.
If that wasn't U're point then my apologies, please make U'eself clearer.
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Don't worry. I accept your apologies. If you read through that thread you'll see me express the same dismay you have about the lack of taste around here. It's the main reason I don't come here much nowadays (that and the abundance of MJ loons). Lady GaGa is of course shit.... very shit. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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I watched her Glastonbury performance the other day, and while it's true to say that she danced, and gave a performance that the crowd semed to enjoy, I wasn't particularly impressed.
Yes, it was a bit of a spectacle, but it was far more cabaret than musical performance. She may well be capable of it, but she certainly didn't show that she could either sing or play instruments. At one point she was idly bashing a very fake looking cardboard synthesiser (while spinning around in circles, and missing the 'keys' painted on it most of the time). Which doesn't equate to playing an instrument. She was also miming the vocal for every song performed, the only real vocals she did was the odd bit of shouting to engage with the crowd, and she occasionally joined her recorded self for a few words of chorus here and there. That doesn't equate to singing. And now I really have my doubts as to whether she can actually play an instrument or sing. I can understand her wanting to put on a good show, but if she believes wearing a metal dress or having sparks fly out of her tits to be more important than demonstrating musical ability, then fine, let those that enjoy that sort of thing support her. For my money though, if you want people to believe that you can play instruments or sing, then there's only one way of doing that. One wonders why she didn't, particularly at a gig like Glastonbury, at least for one song. The answer seems fairly obvious to me. She was after all - out of all the hundreds of singers that took to the various stages over the 3 days - the only one who didn't sing live. That's the only performance of hers I've seen (and I think you'd agree that it was a pretty important one with which to display all your skills), so I'm not saying she doesn't have talent, just that I haven't seen any evidence of it yet. I won't be going out of my way to look for it either. Lemmy, Bowie, Prince, Leonard. RIP. |
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