ElBessoNegro said:

It was probably around 84. It looks like they were going to one of those awards shows, where Michael managed to pick up every single award going that night for Thriller. Btw is any of old enough to remember that night at the grammies when he won everything?

whatsgoingon said:

Yup it was Grammy night. Michael called them to the stage during one of his acceptances... you can see LATOYA AND JANET in the 3rd Youtube I posted below.

whatsgoingon said:

I was 3, the memories are a little foggy... got Youtube to help





I love how people always refer to the night that MJ and Quincy won X amount of Grammys implying they were all for Thriller, but at least one of those Grammys was for a fricken E.T. storybook the same year!


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BoOTyLiCioUs said:

Janet sometimes talks like a phone sex operator and Mariah often dresses like a streetwalker. Neither is really better or worse than the other in the over-sexed department IMO. That pic of Janet is still hotter than most of the ones I see nowadays, but that's just my opinion. Honestly, Mariah only has amazing legs, her overall physique isn't on the same level as Janet's, but Janet's also a dancer so that's probably why. Oh, well, Mariah seems happy with herself and Nick seems to enjoy it so I guess that's all that should matter.

Personally, I'd rather see Janet flash that amazing six pack than continue to see Mariah squeeze into outfits that are waay too small for her. Sometimes it looks like she can barely breath due to the extreme tightness. I absolutely adore her, but I'm over her being scantily clad especially since she can actually sing and really has no reason to be half-dressed like that to promote herself. Celine Dion is a great vocalist and she doesn't walk around in hoochie shorts, halter tops, and super short dresses that look like they were painted on like Mariah does. Sometimes I wish that Mariah would just pull a Janet already and stop being such a tease, because teasing is really only cute and amusing for a short period of time no matter who's doing it.


In the end, neither one of them is really conservative, which is their choice. If the music is good, that's all I really care about. Janet is a freaky, exhibitionist, and maybe Mariah is an undercover freak, but Janet has never denied that she's freaky...she did leave Oprah shocked and speechless when the subject arose during that interview.

BoOTyLiCioUs said:

That's because most of the over-sexed ones either have very few or no actual, hardcore talents to begin with, so they have to use their bodies to sell their product. What they do really isn't that much different from actresses or supermodels who use sex appeal and their bodies to market themselves.

First, I don't think any of them were ever really innocent if you actually listen to most of the lyrics in their songs. Take early Britney and Christina for example, neither 'Genie In A Bottle' or 'Hit Me Baby' are wholesome and kid-friendly songs when you actually listen to the words. Sugar-coated sex directed to youngsters is all those songs really were, but they were catchy as hell and still are 10 years later.

Personally, the only things about female artists being over-sexed that really bothers me is when: 1) they market this ideology to young kids and impressionable teenage girls (main reason I've never been able to really like Britney); and, 2) when artists who are great vocalists do it (ie. Mariah, Christina Aguilera, and Beyonce). Why? If you can actually sing your ass off, why lower yourself to being seen as some sex kitten? To an extent, Madonna has to do it, because who wants to go to a Madonna concert and see her sitting on a stool just singing the whole show without 20 back-up dancers, elaborate stage designs and costumes, and loads of choreography...well, besides her diehard fans of course? If you can sell your music using just your voice without the sexed-up image (which Mariah was able to do in the beginning of her career), than why would you be okay with people seeing you more as a hot piece of ass than for the real talent you have? I don't get it...don't get it at all. Let the mediocre and no talent ones sell their bodies to make a buck, because plastic surgery can only fix so much and it damn sure can't give someone real talent if they never had any to begin with.

whatsgoingon said:

Wow I don't remeber LaToya being so TINY back then! She looks like the little sister.

let's get back to the Velvet Rope, I'm tired of hearing about Latoya's skinny butt

I think the production is so different from most of her other albums and lush and melodic. Even though I always liked Special, I forgot just how pretty the music was, I listened to VR after so long the other day and how helpful Janet is through her music. I also think some of the songs on there like Empty, Anything, Velvet Rope as well as others are so underrated.

This is Janets best interview ever:









This one is good too, after her divorce.

Don't know why anyone would question this. Her and Michael both show signs of dealing with depression and food issues....

As far as people's comments about her "crumbing career". Janet had a great run, hopefully she has managed her $$$ well, and can comfortably make an exit. Everyone can't stay on top forever, especially not in the pop world.....
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Janet Jackson is plain depressive,

A girl who cant sing, producers who left her behind, showing how empty and unimportant she is.

Its the same kind of shit you have with the debarge family, far mediocre people trying to whine for attention.

Riverpoet31 said:

That album had a profound affect on me and I consider it a classic. Hince my name.

Riverpoet31 said:

Her producers never left her
As a matter of fact she's working with them right now

My favorite cool down song

I really, really, really love Tonight's the Night




AMAZINGGGG

midiscover said:

exactly, JANET IS A LEGEND. she inspired all those girls from Britney, Beyonce, Mariah, Christian, Ciara. Only a legend can do that.

MJ's stuff sounds 80s as well, but its NOT about it sounding 80s, 90s, 2000s, if its a GOOD SONG ITS A GOOD SONG, Majority of songs WILL AGE. but half this Current garbage out on the radio does not compare to janet's control and rhythem nation album,

alphastreet said:

How can you say "Bad" aged better then janets stuff, when the bad album including the track title, sounds so 80s, from Speed demon, to Another Part of me.

OTW sounds so disco and 70s, it sounds so much like Quincy jones from the 70s.

It does sound like you have a biased. I think songs like Get on the floor, falling in love, Girlfriend HAVE NOT AGED WELL, if anything they are cheesy. But again its everyone's opinions. But i have a feeling you would feel more comfortable playing janet jackson Nasty in your car, versus Michael Jackson's Girlfriend from OTW.

girlfriend and nasty are not even alike in style, come on! If you're going to ask me that, at least have the songs have some form of commonality. Bad vs. Nasty or He Doesn't Even Know I'm Alive vs. Girlfriend would be better

OfftheWall said:

Pretty ironic that the interviews that allowed the most post-editing came out with the best answers. I think with live shows like Ellen, Oprah, (Rosie O'Donnell back in that VR era), a few candid comments squeaked out but generally she was answering with 'real-time editing' and a big filter or wall went up. That's why I like BET's interviews.

What About Lyrics
Janet Jackson


We walked along the beach
What a moon lit night
He held my hands in his
He kissed me he said
I wanna spend my life with you
I want you for my wife
Just then I thought



Chorus:
What about the times you lied to me
What about the times you said no one would want me
What about all the shit you've done to me
What about that
What about that
What about the times you yelled at me
What about the times I cried
You wouldn't even hold me
What about those things
What about that
What about that



I took a pause
And then a deep sigh
He looked right into my eyes
As he said
I know I didn't say somethin' wrong
I didn't have the courage to say
But then I thought



Repeat Chorus

Oh

Chorus 2:

What about the times you hit my face
What about the times you kept on when I said
No more please
What about those things
What about that
What about that oh
What about the times you shamed me
What about the times when you said you didn't fuck
her
She only gave you head
What about that
What about that



Don't wanna live my life in misery
Don't tell me you did it 'cause you love me
I don't believe
I'm sick and tired
Your deceptive games
Wonder where
You have been
I can't live life wondering



My heart was poundin'
But the time had come
To stop lettin' my whisperin' heart control me
And tellin' my screamin' mind what to do
I looked him straight in the eye
And then I said



Repeat Chorus

Repeat Chorus 2

Repeat Chorus

Repeat Chorus 2

Riverpoet31 said:

yeah, it's like who has the worst voice, her or latoya. Funny how all her good albums came out when she was with those producers. I say a famous name and great producers can get you far in the music game. I heard that Rene ghost wrote a lot of her songs and sued her because she didn't mention his name in the cd booklet.

TotalAlisa said:

NO NO NO. YES, she has inspired Britney and Ciara- however,Britney says that her biggest influence is Madonna. Mariah had a voice no one had heard before...such a wide range and such a unique voice. Mariah does not dance, we know this Yes, the whistle register was familar due to Minne Ripertin(can't remember the last name). As with Christina, she has been influenced by Mariah as well as others, not Janet. Remember Christina doesn't dance as well. Beyonce has mentioned Michael as her biggest influence...I've never heard of her talk about Janet.

By the way, totalalisa, don't pm me and call me an ignorant bitch because I don't agree with you on certain issues. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion even though people might not like it.

BoOTyLiCioUs said:

She may say that, but I don't see that. I think Janet has had a lasting inflence on most of the female artists out there.

paper said:

the ones that dance, yeah.

BoOTyLiCioUs said:

And your point?

She's influenced in fashion as well as, unfortunately, singing style as well.

Janet can dance. No one can say she can't. You just can't have as big of a career as she has had off dancing alone, and people know that.

You have to be able to whistle, whine, or hum a few notes....

alphastreet said:

BUT EACH ALBUM have songs that are dated, that is my whole argument. Michaels things have not aged that much better, he does have a few select songs that have, but the whole albums have NOT, and i believe you are giving way to much credit.

Bad Vs Nasty, as far as Im concerned, neither aged that well.
He doesn't even know im alive vs Girlfriend, both have aged terribly. Nor would i play them in the car.


There Majority of OTW has not aged well, and even some of the songs sound like they are off the Wiz soundtrack thanks to quincy.

I believe Funny how time flies, and lady in my life are both amazing.

80s stuff sounds 80s, cause it was made in the 80s and even with over production it sounds better then this Kanye West, Lil Wayne Crap thats out right now. Well thats my opinion anyways

BoOTyLiCioUs said:

BITCH DON'T TALK TO ME. I DON'T GIVE a D*** about your opinions. cause MAJORITY OF THE TIME THEY ARE WRONG,

OOOH and beyonce SAID JANET INFLUENCED HER, SHE DID A TRIBUTE TO RHYTHM NATION and lets wait awhile, BUT YOUR ignorant self would not know that.

its not about opinion, its about you being RACIAL and thinking that you know everything and talking about issues THAT YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.
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paper said:

britney is ALWAYS COPYING JANET. She will claim madonna but i always see janet, and micheal. Madonna was NEVER much of a good dancer.

sunsetdriver1999 said:

HEY let me save you the trouble, IGNORE BOOTYLICK, she comes on every janet thread just to bash. SO IGNORE ANY OF THAT CREATURES bias and NONE substance opinions.
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BoOTyLiCioUs said:

You FAIL again! He sued Janet because he wanted the royalties of the tracks he supposedly help write and he was credited for every track on The Velvet Rope but I think he didn't even participate on every track. Janet was just being nice And you must stupid or some shit a famous name won't get you far if that were the case what happened to the other Jackson's careers? and having good producers don't really mean shit if the chemistry is not there you remember Mooriah's Chamrmbracelent? LMFAOOOOO!