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Reply #540 posted 06/16/09 8:55pm

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Swa said:



Ok well that was lost on me, lol.

Swa

Swa, looks like Michael and Stevie DIDN'T perform Just Good Friends in Sydney

they performed Bad at the last show in Brisbane


I know it wasn't part of the Sydney shows, but was it just Bad they performed in Brisbane or was it also Just Good Friends?

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Reply #541 posted 06/16/09 9:30pm

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Swa said:

bboy87 said:


Swa, looks like Michael and Stevie DIDN'T perform Just Good Friends in Sydney

they performed Bad at the last show in Brisbane


I know it wasn't part of the Sydney shows, but was it just Bad they performed in Brisbane or was it also Just Good Friends?

Swa

nah just Bad

that Brisbane concert that leaked is that show

some fans are now trying to get the second part now
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Reply #542 posted 06/16/09 10:25pm

suga10

New photo I found lol

Leopard pants LMAO


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Reply #543 posted 06/16/09 10:32pm

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bboy87 said:

Swa said:



I know it wasn't part of the Sydney shows, but was it just Bad they performed in Brisbane or was it also Just Good Friends?

Swa

nah just Bad

that Brisbane concert that leaked is that show

some fans are now trying to get the second part now


Wow. I hope they can. So all these years when people assumed they perfomed Just Good Friends it was Bad?
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Reply #544 posted 06/16/09 10:34pm

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NMuzakNSoul said:

bboy87 said:


nah just Bad

that Brisbane concert that leaked is that show

some fans are now trying to get the second part now


Wow. I hope they can. So all these years when people assumed they perfomed Just Good Friends it was Bad?

Everybody thought it was the November 20th show in Sydney when it was the November 28th show in Brisbane
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Reply #545 posted 06/16/09 10:36pm

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^^ Weird.
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Reply #546 posted 06/16/09 10:38pm

NMuzakNSoul

bboy87 said:

NMuzakNSoul said:



Wow. I hope they can. So all these years when people assumed they perfomed Just Good Friends it was Bad?

Everybody thought it was the November 20th show in Sydney when it was the November 28th show in Brisbane


Right that's why I said Sydney at first.

I can't recall any footage where just Stevie and Mike sing together. Would love to see man.
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Reply #547 posted 06/17/09 12:34am

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NMuzakNSoul said:

bboy87 said:


Everybody thought it was the November 20th show in Sydney when it was the November 28th show in Brisbane


Right that's why I said Sydney at first.

I can't recall any footage where just Stevie and Mike sing together. Would love to see man.



I've only seen the still shot, not moving footage. Oh where was youtube when we needed it.

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Reply #548 posted 06/17/09 12:44am

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Swa said:

NMuzakNSoul said:



Right that's why I said Sydney at first.

I can't recall any footage where just Stevie and Mike sing together. Would love to see man.



I've only seen the still shot, not moving footage. Oh where was youtube when we needed it.

Swa

someone on MJJC said they may be able to get it so we just gotta wait for an update...
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Reply #549 posted 06/17/09 2:39am

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eek
lol
MICHAEL JACKSON
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Reply #550 posted 06/17/09 3:51am

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unique said:

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First off you can stop with the telling me what I can and cant post--this is NOT a MJ forum it is a PRINCE forum. If you dont like the kinds of articles that are posted in this thread than maybe you should hang out more at the MJ messageboards--thats what they're for to cater to the fans. Perhaps I should remind you that this thread was not made to cater to MJ fans but to cut down on all the MJ topics flooding this forum, so anybody and everybody is free to post whatever they like regardless of if people agree with it or like it or not.

Also if you'd read my posts in this thread you would see that I dont just post tabloid articles, I post ARTICLES--a few have been tabloid, the rest were general news articles, as well as my own opinions on MJ events.
As for the Maximum Jackson forum I've never been there, I might check it out someday but I've been a longtime member of 2 major MJ messageboards so I know what I'm talking about when I say that MJ fanatics dont like other fans who even slightly criticize Michael. I've seen fans bashed or threatened to be banned for raising even the slightest issue many times. It happens alot so dont try to deny that it doesnt. Not all MJ fans but a lot of the newer fans of them are a highly sensitive bunch who dont take criticism of their idol very well.


hear hear. people shouldn't be told what they should or shouldn't post, particuarly when it's clear that some don't even bother reading what's posted. i'm not suggesting anyone moves to MJ sites to post, only to bear in mind that this isn't an MJ site and not everyone thinks the sun shines out of his arse, and not everyone who posts something that some might consider negative is a hater. i enjoy contributing, and i've added some interesting articles, and not all of them could be considered negative, such as the glove dude and the waxworks, and if the article comes with a crap stock photo i'll use something more interesting instead. if the article is tabloid crap, then it's only fitting to use an appropriately crap photo to highlight the stupidity of it all. if tabloid articles bother you, then i think it's an issue you need to address within yourself


Yes!
And at least he has a sense of humour, This thread is just about the only entertaining thread on the Org right now.
Keep posting them Unique!
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Reply #551 posted 06/17/09 6:05am

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seeingvoices12 said:


eek
lol


Hot. Mess.
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Reply #552 posted 06/17/09 6:09am

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seeingvoices12 said:


eek
lol

eek lol That is like one of the worst outfits ever. While the hair and shades are OK, the rest is terrible.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #553 posted 06/17/09 6:12am

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http://www.imeem.com/american-psycho/music/O__vDSeM/michael-jackson-xscape/

Xscape

Wow you can hear raw frustration in this song by Michael. I have never heard it before until now but I like it!

Michael said he gotta get away from the madness.
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I love this song. It should have been released as a single, Can you imagine the video he could make for it?
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #554 posted 06/17/09 6:22am

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seeingvoices12 said:


eek
lol


He looks like a villian from the 1970's PBS tv show.. Dr. Who eek lol
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Reply #555 posted 06/17/09 6:36am

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dag said:


eek lol That is like one of the worst outfits ever. While the hair and shades are OK, the rest is terrible.


How can you see the hair? lol I thin I see a few strands on the right.
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Reply #556 posted 06/17/09 6:38am

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dag said:

seeingvoices12 said:


eek
lol

eek lol That is like one of the worst outfits ever. While the hair and shades are OK, the rest is terrible.


LOL, I know, but remember this is a private visit to the doctor,the media isn't supposed to know about it,I think its funny .
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Reply #557 posted 06/17/09 7:01am

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LOL @ that outfit! Lets see, leopard print pants and a white shirt with some bazaar looking designs underneath the blinged-out jacket--I imagine a person could get dizzy just looking at his outfit! lol

I would love to see him and Lady Gaga make an appearance in public together...since they both have an "interesting" sense of style, they'd make quite an entertaining fashion couple lol







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Reply #558 posted 06/17/09 7:17am

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seeingvoices12 said:

dag said:


eek lol That is like one of the worst outfits ever. While the hair and shades are OK, the rest is terrible.


LOL, I know, but remember this is a private visit to the doctor,the media isn't supposed to know about it,I think its funny .


if you want to go about without being noticed, stick on some jeans and a hooded top and baseball cap with shades, not aerosmiths stage outfit from 1979 and a scarf over your face like you were about to rob a liquor store

it looks like stevie wonder dressed him in the dark after drinking absinthe
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Reply #559 posted 06/17/09 8:35am

Imago

So is he actually going to be doing any shows now?

I keep hearing that he's not making practice performances.
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Reply #560 posted 06/17/09 9:36am

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seeingvoices12 said:

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Not really. Which makes it even more embarrassing that she is now a more credible performer than MJ.



The fact that you admit that Madonna can't sing throw your ridiculous debate out of window, your continuous attempts to convince people that Mj mimes because he lost his voice will always end up in failure, people still want to see MJ no matter what you say, i know this is a bitter pill you have to swallow, but you know why people still want to see him? because everyone on this freaking planet knows that Mj is a capable singer, a child prodigy, he doesn't need to sing live for you to prove to you that he is a capable singer, he did that already when he was at his peak, we already know he can sing, as of now , while you are at it still convincing people he lost his voice, go get of cyndi lauper flop albums from the garbage can and take a listen, or go to create another Cyndi lauper flop thread, obviously you dig her so much, waste your time on her.

This post basically says it all. The sad thing is you will never know how laughable posts like this are.
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Reply #561 posted 06/17/09 9:42am

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seeingvoices12 said:


eek
lol


Poor thing can't even button his jacket correctly and wtf are those white things hanging off the side? lol
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Reply #562 posted 06/17/09 9:44am

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You don't realize it, but you've just proved how right I am yet again. You have COMPLETELY avoided the subject under discussion. You asked me to prove how MJ fans are devious. I gave specific examples of them dodging points, and how did you respond? You responded by COMPLETELY CHANGING THE SUBJECT. lol lol Now you and your fellow loon are talking about vitiligo which was not what we were discussing. You don't even realize that you're proving my point. That's how out of touch you are. If you could see yourself clearly you would be embarrassed right now.


which is exactly what you haters do. So i proved my point

Wow! What a barefaced liar you are! You don't even have any shame about it. I have never changed the subject in a middle of a debate. You are the one who did that. Quite blatantly. And you are now trying to change the subject YET AGAIN by falsely accusing me of YOUR crimes. Once again, you are proving just how devious MJ fans really are.
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Reply #563 posted 06/17/09 9:54am

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i just noticed the red ribbon on his wrist. he must be a victim of mcnultys serial killer
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Reply #564 posted 06/17/09 10:23am

midnightmover

Swa said:

I trimmed your original post down for clarity purposes (similar to what you have done to mine in your edit)


Actually, I didn't trim your post. My computer couldn't handle all the information, which is why you may have noticed my response was divided into two separate posts.

My take on it, is that yes initially MJ used backing tapes to assist in the vocals during dance numbers, but as time and tours went on he became more reliant on them, including as you mention some ballads. Personally I don't agree with the whole lipsynching thing. And would rather have Michael sing and stand still than bother about elaborate dance routines.

Now does the fact he lipsynchs ballads therefore prove his voice is shot? Not necessarily. In my opinion it is due more to the unfortunate perfectionist streak in Michael where he feels he has to be 100% on point and pitch in order to entertain. Rightly or wrongly the greater scrutiny he feels he is under in terms of world press etc, the more reliant he is on backing tracks. Now note I'm not making excuses, but offering an alternative point of view.

This is illogical. If he's trying to be a perfectionist, then why why would he sing anything live at all? Why on the Bad Tour did he only mime two songs? If perfectionism was the goal, then why only make two songs "perfect"?

And you are still clinging to the discredited idea that he only mimes because he's dancing. You said... "Personally I don't agree with the whole lipsynching thing. And would rather have Michael sing and stand still than bother about elaborate dance routines." But there are no dance routines in "Heal The World" and "You Are Not Alone" yet he mimes them. By contrast, there's a lot of dancing in "Wanna Be Starting Something", yet he sings that live. Surely you can see that these facts DEMOLISH your theory about him miming because of heavy dancing.

You're also ignoring the fact that MIchael's live vocals have declined over the years. Each tour he sounded worse and each tour had more miming. Is it just a coincidence that the increase in miming coincided with a decrease in the quality of his live vocals? Please think.
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Reply #565 posted 06/17/09 10:47am

suga10

The pants are so not Michael

He has big ass feet.
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Reply #566 posted 06/17/09 11:30am

BoOTyLiCioUs

midnightmover said:

Swa said:

I trimmed your original post down for clarity purposes (similar to what you have done to mine in your edit)


Actually, I didn't trim your post. My computer couldn't handle all the information, which is why you may have noticed my response was divided into two separate posts.

My take on it, is that yes initially MJ used backing tapes to assist in the vocals during dance numbers, but as time and tours went on he became more reliant on them, including as you mention some ballads. Personally I don't agree with the whole lipsynching thing. And would rather have Michael sing and stand still than bother about elaborate dance routines.

Now does the fact he lipsynchs ballads therefore prove his voice is shot? Not necessarily. In my opinion it is due more to the unfortunate perfectionist streak in Michael where he feels he has to be 100% on point and pitch in order to entertain. Rightly or wrongly the greater scrutiny he feels he is under in terms of world press etc, the more reliant he is on backing tracks. Now note I'm not making excuses, but offering an alternative point of view.

This is illogical. If he's trying to be a perfectionist, then why why would he sing anything live at all? Why on the Bad Tour did he only mime two songs? If perfectionism was the goal, then why only make two songs "perfect"?

And you are still clinging to the discredited idea that he only mimes because he's dancing. You said... "Personally I don't agree with the whole lipsynching thing. And would rather have Michael sing and stand still than bother about elaborate dance routines." But there are no dance routines in "Heal The World" and "You Are Not Alone" yet he mimes them. By contrast, there's a lot of dancing in "Wanna Be Starting Something", yet he sings that live. Surely you can see that these facts DEMOLISH your theory about him miming because of heavy dancing.

You're also ignoring the fact that MIchael's live vocals have declined over the years. Each tour he sounded worse and each tour had more miming. Is it just a coincidence that the increase in miming coincided with a decrease in the quality of his live vocals? Please think.
[Edited 6/17/09 10:31am]


and please stop talking down to people. If you're gonna have a debate with someone on a certain subject, please learn how to respect others.
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Reply #567 posted 06/17/09 11:37am

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what messageboards are you going to? I go to Maximum jackson all the time and people criticize him on there to a good amount and no one is mad or gets banned. Actually a lot of them agree with what the person is criticizing on or gives different viewpoints. Again, please stop generalizing and stop posting tabloids please biggrin .

First off you can stop with the telling me what I can and cant post--this is NOT a MJ forum it is a PRINCE forum. If you dont like the kinds of articles that are posted in this thread than maybe you should hang out more at the MJ messageboards--thats what they're for to cater to the fans. Perhaps I should remind you that this thread was not made to cater to MJ fans but to cut down on all the MJ topics flooding this forum, so anybody and everybody is free to post whatever they like regardless of if people agree with it or like it or not.

Also if you'd read my posts in this thread you would see that I dont just post tabloid articles, I post ARTICLES--a few have been tabloid, the rest were general news articles, as well as my own opinions on MJ events.
As for the Maximum Jackson forum I've never been there, I might check it out someday but I've been a longtime member of 2 major MJ messageboards so I know what I'm talking about when I say that MJ fanatics dont like other fans who even slightly criticize Michael. I've seen fans bashed or threatened to be banned for raising even the slightest issue many times. It happens alot so dont try to deny that it doesnt. Not all MJ fans but a lot of the newer fans of them are a highly sensitive bunch who dont take criticism of their idol very well.


There's no need to be condesending. And no need to get so defensive. I never said that it didn't happen..and I acknowledge that it does happen...READ WHAT I WROTE.
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Reply #568 posted 06/17/09 11:39am

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First off you can stop with the telling me what I can and cant post--this is NOT a MJ forum it is a PRINCE forum. If you dont like the kinds of articles that are posted in this thread than maybe you should hang out more at the MJ messageboards--thats what they're for to cater to the fans. Perhaps I should remind you that this thread was not made to cater to MJ fans but to cut down on all the MJ topics flooding this forum, so anybody and everybody is free to post whatever they like regardless of if people agree with it or like it or not.

Also if you'd read my posts in this thread you would see that I dont just post tabloid articles, I post ARTICLES--a few have been tabloid, the rest were general news articles, as well as my own opinions on MJ events.
As for the Maximum Jackson forum I've never been there, I might check it out someday but I've been a longtime member of 2 major MJ messageboards so I know what I'm talking about when I say that MJ fanatics dont like other fans who even slightly criticize Michael. I've seen fans bashed or threatened to be banned for raising even the slightest issue many times. It happens alot so dont try to deny that it doesnt. Not all MJ fans but a lot of the newer fans of them are a highly sensitive bunch who dont take criticism of their idol very well.


hear hear. people shouldn't be told what they should or shouldn't post, particuarly when it's clear that some don't even bother reading what's posted. i'm not suggesting anyone moves to MJ sites to post, only to bear in mind that this isn't an MJ site and not everyone thinks the sun shines out of his arse, and not everyone who posts something that some might consider negative is a hater. i enjoy contributing, and i've added some interesting articles, and not all of them could be considered negative, such as the glove dude and the waxworks, and if the article comes with a crap stock photo i'll use something more interesting instead. if the article is tabloid crap, then it's only fitting to use an appropriately crap photo to highlight the stupidity of it all. if tabloid articles bother you, then i think it's an issue you need to address within yourself


it's not really the tabloids...it's the fact that people act like it is the gospel truth. You won't believe how many people believed that rumour about Rhianna having a std after the whole Chris Brown incident.
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Reply #569 posted 06/17/09 11:57am

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BoOTyLiCioUs said:

unique said:



hear hear. people shouldn't be told what they should or shouldn't post, particuarly when it's clear that some don't even bother reading what's posted. i'm not suggesting anyone moves to MJ sites to post, only to bear in mind that this isn't an MJ site and not everyone thinks the sun shines out of his arse, and not everyone who posts something that some might consider negative is a hater. i enjoy contributing, and i've added some interesting articles, and not all of them could be considered negative, such as the glove dude and the waxworks, and if the article comes with a crap stock photo i'll use something more interesting instead. if the article is tabloid crap, then it's only fitting to use an appropriately crap photo to highlight the stupidity of it all. if tabloid articles bother you, then i think it's an issue you need to address within yourself


it's not really the tabloids...it's the fact that people act like it is the gospel truth. You won't believe how many people believed that rumour about Rhianna having a std after the whole Chris Brown incident.



nothing i've posted has been taken from tabloids. absolutely nothing at all. i've just cut and pasted from websites and given the direct links to the articles

these days most newspapers are tabloids, at least they are in the UK, the times, the guardian, the most respected newspapers are all tabloids now, they stopped being printed as broadsheets years ago

and who believes these articles are gospel? any idiot can smell the shit, it's just that there is usually no smoke without a fire, and regardless of the truth in a story, it's amusing when the bizarre articles are printed

remember this, michael jackson was a child star, he could sing and dance pretty good for a kid, he got lucky and and got big with thriller, and then fucked up real bad and pissed it all away, starting with captain eo, and moonwalker and neverland, and then all his child abuse cases, his plastic surgery, change of skin colour, and financial fuckups. he was a pop star, but hasn't released nothing in a long time, or performed in a long time. he isn't Gandhi or JFK or even obama. he's not someone who is involved in a serious business or has done something worthy for the planet or humanity, he just sang a few songs and danced a bit, and did a bunch of weird shit that attracted a lot of celebrity gossip. if it wasn't for the weird stories and his child abuse cases he would have faded away like marvin gaye, al green, stevie wonder, etc, people who were great, but the kids these days wouldn't know who they were. these stories are what keeps his memory alive, in an ironic fucked up way. you kill the stories and you kill his memory. he wouldn't have sold so many tickets to the o2 if it wasn't for these stories. as many people have said before, he even spread some of these stories himself, as many other celebretards and publishits keep on doing these days. no news is bad news if someone involved with multiple child abuse cases can keep on selling concert tickets. if hitler was still alive he'd be raking in the benjamins
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