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Thread started 06/23/09 6:55am

RipHer2Shreds

Huey Lewis & The News - "Do You Believe in Love"


Picture This (1982)

Peaked at #7 on the Hot 100 in 1982.



http://www.youtube.com/wa...vGsChOQtFg
PS - I really, really, really dislike "Embedding disabled by request." lol
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Reply #1 posted 06/23/09 7:29am

ernestsewell

I love Huey Lewis & the News.
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Reply #2 posted 06/23/09 7:51am

RipHer2Shreds

From this album...


Sports (1983)

...I also love Heart and Soul (along with the other hits from the album).


http://www.youtube.com/wa...TdaXhpjHws
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Reply #3 posted 06/23/09 8:06am

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Power of Love is my shit, love the lyrics. Huey was sooo cute to me. mushy



Heart of Rock n Roll was my other fave cuz he said shouted out Austin. woot!

music Tulsa, Austin, Oklahoma City . . .

http://www.youtube.com/wa...EKUmzJO54Y

They really had some fun videos. I Want a New Drug was another jam. I need to get their greatest hits cool
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Reply #4 posted 06/23/09 8:09am

ernestsewell

SCNDLS said:

music Tulsa, Austin, Oklahoma City . . .

They really had some fun videos. I Want a New Drug was another jam. I need to get their greatest hits cool


He shouted out two of my home towns growing up. Tulsa. Oklahoma City.

When he came through OKC on tour in 1985 or so, he played FOUR encores. I think they played one song twice (perhaps "Jacob's Ladder" or "The Power of Love"). He was also good to the Oklahoma crowd.
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Reply #5 posted 06/23/09 8:15am

RipHer2Shreds

SCNDLS said:

Power of Love is my shit, love the lyrics. Huey was sooo cute to me. mushy

Uhhh...me too boxed
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Reply #6 posted 06/23/09 8:15am

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SCNDLS said:

Power of Love is my shit, love the lyrics. Huey was sooo cute to me. mushy



Heart of Rock n Roll was my other fave cuz he said shouted out Austin. woot!

music Tulsa, Austin, Oklahoma City . . .

http://www.youtube.com/wa...EKUmzJO54Y

They really had some fun videos. I Want a New Drug was another jam. I need to get their greatest hits cool
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Yeah this was my favorite too. The whole Sports album was good.
Apparently the composers for the Ghostbusters soundtrack thought
I want a New Drug was a jam too if you know the story behind that. wink
Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint
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Reply #7 posted 06/23/09 8:17am

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ernestsewell said:

SCNDLS said:

music Tulsa, Austin, Oklahoma City . . .

They really had some fun videos. I Want a New Drug was another jam. I need to get their greatest hits cool


He shouted out two of my home towns growing up. Tulsa. Oklahoma City.

When he came through OKC on tour in 1985 or so, he played FOUR encores. I think they played one song twice (perhaps "Jacob's Ladder" or "The Power of Love"). He was also good to the Oklahoma crowd.

cool I really liked Huey an' nem a LOT growing up. They were straight up rock n' roll with enough soulfulness in the vocals to keep me interested. mushy They performed at my neighborhood Fourth of July "picnic" a few years ago and were great. I need to see who we have this year.
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Reply #8 posted 06/23/09 8:17am

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ernestsewell said:

SCNDLS said:

music Tulsa, Austin, Oklahoma City . . .

They really had some fun videos. I Want a New Drug was another jam. I need to get their greatest hits cool


He shouted out two of my home towns growing up. Tulsa. Oklahoma City.

I think they had different versions for different radio markets. I always heard (growing up in North Carolina), "Charlotte! And Raleigh, too!" lol
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Reply #9 posted 06/23/09 8:19am

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RipHer2Shreds said:

ernestsewell said:



He shouted out two of my home towns growing up. Tulsa. Oklahoma City.

I think they had different versions for different radio markets. I always heard (growing up in North Carolina), "Charlotte! And Raleigh, too!" lol

Maybe for radio, but they wouldn't have different videos tho. Did they say it in the video?
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Reply #10 posted 06/23/09 8:20am

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RipHer2Shreds said:

ernestsewell said:



He shouted out two of my home towns growing up. Tulsa. Oklahoma City.

I think they had different versions for different radio markets. I always heard (growing up in North Carolina), "Charlotte! And Raleigh, too!" lol


No they didn't. In the song on the album, he said "Tulsa, Austin, Oklahoma City", among other city titles. They were not changed for whatever market they were in. He might have changed it on TOUR, but on RECORD, it never changed.
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Reply #11 posted 06/23/09 8:20am

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Oh, snap this year we have Smash Mouth, too bad I'll be in LA.
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Reply #12 posted 06/23/09 8:21am

ernestsewell

SCNDLS said:

RipHer2Shreds said:


I think they had different versions for different radio markets. I always heard (growing up in North Carolina), "Charlotte! And Raleigh, too!" lol

Maybe for radio, but they wouldn't have different videos tho. Did they say it in the video?


No. He's talking about on tour they probably used other city names. On record and in video, it's the same as we've known it.
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Reply #13 posted 06/23/09 8:21am

RipHer2Shreds

SCNDLS said:

RipHer2Shreds said:


I think they had different versions for different radio markets. I always heard (growing up in North Carolina), "Charlotte! And Raleigh, too!" lol

Maybe for radio, but they wouldn't have different videos tho. Did they say it in the video?

No, but it always annoyed me hearing "him" shout that for no reason. lol
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Reply #14 posted 06/23/09 8:26am

ernestsewell

phunkdaddy said:

Yeah this was my favorite too. The whole Sports album was good. Apparently the composers for the Ghostbusters soundtrack thought
I want a New Drug was a jam too if you know the story behind that. wink


It was Ray Parker, Jr., no one else, that got sued by Huey Lewis and the News for copying "I Want A New Drug" and making it into "Ghostbusters". Huey won the law suit and Ray had to pay up.

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From Ray Parker's wikipedia:
Parker was accused of plagiarizing the melody from Huey Lewis and the News song "I Want a New Drug" for his 1984 #1 hit theme to Ghostbusters, released only six months after Lewis' hit reached #6 in the Billboard Hot 100. This ended with Lewis suing Parker, and the pair settled out of court in 1985. Nonetheless, Parker's success continued as the song secured him a 1984 Grammy Award for Best Pop Instrumental Performance.

They returned to court once again in 2001, as Parker sued Lewis for breaching a confidentiality agreement forming part of their original out of court settlement which prohibited either side from speaking about it publicly. Lewis had implied in a VH1 Behind The Music special that Parker had paid a financial settlement as part of the original agreement.

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Interesting extra notes on Huey Lewis' wikipedia:
In 1984, Huey Lewis and the News were contacted by the producers of Ghostbusters in regards to developing the theme song for the film. The band opted against it, and Ray Parker Jr. was instead signed to develop the theme. Later that year, the band sued Parker, citing the similarities between the Ghostbusters theme song and their earlier hit "I Want a New Drug". According to Huey Lewis and the News, this was especially damaging to them since the Ghostbusters theme song was so popular, rising to number one on the charts for three weeks. Parker and Lewis later settled out of court. Huey Lewis has stated that his experiences with the producers of Ghostbusters may have been indirectly responsible for getting his band involved with the movie Back to the Future.

In the 2001 Behind the Music special, Huey Lewis stated: "The offensive part was not so much that Ray Parker Jr. had ripped this song off, it was kind of symbolic of an industry that wants something -- they wanted our wave, and they wanted to buy it. ... [I]t's not for sale. ... In the end, I suppose they were right. I suppose it was for sale, because, basically, they bought it." As a result of this statement, Ray Parker Jr. has filed a suit against Huey Lewis, claiming he violated the settlement's confidentiality agreement and seeking an unspecified amount of compensatory and punitive damages as well as attorney fees. The lawsuit is ongoing.
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Reply #15 posted 06/23/09 8:28am

SCNDLS

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ernestsewell said:

SCNDLS said:


Maybe for radio, but they wouldn't have different videos tho. Did they say it in the video?


No. He's talking about on tour they probably used other city names. On record and in video, it's the same as we've known it.

Yeah, but I know that some artists will record different versions of songs for different markets. For instance, the song Deja Vu was about Harlem but they released different versions for different markets. They even had a Dallas version. lol

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Reply #16 posted 06/23/09 8:32am

RipHer2Shreds

ernestsewell said:

SCNDLS said:


Maybe for radio, but they wouldn't have different videos tho. Did they say it in the video?


No. He's talking about on tour they probably used other city names. On record and in video, it's the same as we've known it.

No, not on tour. On the radio.
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Reply #17 posted 06/23/09 12:06pm

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From an album that doesn't get as much attention as their more popular albums..



...Small World (1988)





...Small World, Pt.1




...Small World, Pt.2




...Perfect World



This album featured outside musicians like Tower of Power, Stan Getz & Bruce Hornsby.
A cut even included a few San Francisco 49ers on bg vocals (Joe Montana & Ronnie Lott)


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Reply #18 posted 06/23/09 12:32pm

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Four from Fore!...



...Jacob's Ladder (written by Bruce Hornsby)




...Hip To Be Square




...Doing It All For My Baby




...Stuck With You


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Reply #19 posted 06/23/09 8:55pm

TonyVanDam

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How the hell can anyone have a Huey Lewis thread without THIS classic hit:



cool
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Reply #20 posted 06/23/09 9:01pm

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ernestsewell said:

phunkdaddy said:

Yeah this was my favorite too. The whole Sports album was good. Apparently the composers for the Ghostbusters soundtrack thought
I want a New Drug was a jam too if you know the story behind that. wink


It was Ray Parker, Jr., no one else, that got sued by Huey Lewis and the News for copying "I Want A New Drug" and making it into "Ghostbusters". Huey won the law suit and Ray had to pay up.

-----
From Ray Parker's wikipedia:
Parker was accused of plagiarizing the melody from Huey Lewis and the News song "I Want a New Drug" for his 1984 #1 hit theme to Ghostbusters, released only six months after Lewis' hit reached #6 in the Billboard Hot 100. This ended with Lewis suing Parker, and the pair settled out of court in 1985. Nonetheless, Parker's success continued as the song secured him a 1984 Grammy Award for Best Pop Instrumental Performance.

They returned to court once again in 2001, as Parker sued Lewis for breaching a confidentiality agreement forming part of their original out of court settlement which prohibited either side from speaking about it publicly. Lewis had implied in a VH1 Behind The Music special that Parker had paid a financial settlement as part of the original agreement.

-----
Interesting extra notes on Huey Lewis' wikipedia:
In 1984, Huey Lewis and the News were contacted by the producers of Ghostbusters in regards to developing the theme song for the film. The band opted against it, and Ray Parker Jr. was instead signed to develop the theme. Later that year, the band sued Parker, citing the similarities between the Ghostbusters theme song and their earlier hit "I Want a New Drug". According to Huey Lewis and the News, this was especially damaging to them since the Ghostbusters theme song was so popular, rising to number one on the charts for three weeks. Parker and Lewis later settled out of court. Huey Lewis has stated that his experiences with the producers of Ghostbusters may have been indirectly responsible for getting his band involved with the movie Back to the Future.

In the 2001 Behind the Music special, Huey Lewis stated: "The offensive part was not so much that Ray Parker Jr. had ripped this song off, it was kind of symbolic of an industry that wants something -- they wanted our wave, and they wanted to buy it. ... [I]t's not for sale. ... In the end, I suppose they were right. I suppose it was for sale, because, basically, they bought it." As a result of this statement, Ray Parker Jr. has filed a suit against Huey Lewis, claiming he violated the settlement's confidentiality agreement and seeking an unspecified amount of compensatory and punitive damages as well as attorney fees. The lawsuit is ongoing.


In fairness, both Huey & Ray were more guilty for beat-biting M:

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Reply #21 posted 06/24/09 5:19am

RipHer2Shreds

TonyVanDam said:

How the hell can anyone have a Huey Lewis thread without THIS classic hit:



cool

You haven't read any of the responses have you? lol It's been mentioned.
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Reply #22 posted 06/24/09 6:37am

SCNDLS

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TonyVanDam said:

ernestsewell said:



It was Ray Parker, Jr., no one else, that got sued by Huey Lewis and the News for copying "I Want A New Drug" and making it into "Ghostbusters". Huey won the law suit and Ray had to pay up.

-----
From Ray Parker's wikipedia:
Parker was accused of plagiarizing the melody from Huey Lewis and the News song "I Want a New Drug" for his 1984 #1 hit theme to Ghostbusters, released only six months after Lewis' hit reached #6 in the Billboard Hot 100. This ended with Lewis suing Parker, and the pair settled out of court in 1985. Nonetheless, Parker's success continued as the song secured him a 1984 Grammy Award for Best Pop Instrumental Performance.

They returned to court once again in 2001, as Parker sued Lewis for breaching a confidentiality agreement forming part of their original out of court settlement which prohibited either side from speaking about it publicly. Lewis had implied in a VH1 Behind The Music special that Parker had paid a financial settlement as part of the original agreement.

-----
Interesting extra notes on Huey Lewis' wikipedia:
In 1984, Huey Lewis and the News were contacted by the producers of Ghostbusters in regards to developing the theme song for the film. The band opted against it, and Ray Parker Jr. was instead signed to develop the theme. Later that year, the band sued Parker, citing the similarities between the Ghostbusters theme song and their earlier hit "I Want a New Drug". According to Huey Lewis and the News, this was especially damaging to them since the Ghostbusters theme song was so popular, rising to number one on the charts for three weeks. Parker and Lewis later settled out of court. Huey Lewis has stated that his experiences with the producers of Ghostbusters may have been indirectly responsible for getting his band involved with the movie Back to the Future.

In the 2001 Behind the Music special, Huey Lewis stated: "The offensive part was not so much that Ray Parker Jr. had ripped this song off, it was kind of symbolic of an industry that wants something -- they wanted our wave, and they wanted to buy it. ... [I]t's not for sale. ... In the end, I suppose they were right. I suppose it was for sale, because, basically, they bought it." As a result of this statement, Ray Parker Jr. has filed a suit against Huey Lewis, claiming he violated the settlement's confidentiality agreement and seeking an unspecified amount of compensatory and punitive damages as well as attorney fees. The lawsuit is ongoing.


In fairness, both Huey & Ray were more guilty for beat-biting M:


eek Oh, damn.
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Reply #23 posted 06/24/09 8:19am

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SCNDLS said:

TonyVanDam said:



In fairness, both Huey & Ray were more guilty for beat-biting M:


eek Oh, damn.


Exactly! nod Only the very knowledgeable fans of 1980's music were fully aware of this. M composes those bass riffs and was never name-check for it by Huey or Ray.
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Reply #24 posted 06/24/09 8:23am

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TonyVanDam said:

SCNDLS said:


eek Oh, damn.


Exactly! nod Only the very knowledgeable fans of 1980's music were fully aware of this. M composes those bass riffs and was never name-check for it by Huey or Ray.

As similar as the songs obviously are, is this enough to make a legal claim against Huey an' nem? hmmm
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Reply #25 posted 06/24/09 8:46am

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TonyVanDam said:

In fairness, both Huey & Ray were more guilty for beat-biting M


Very similar. But let's remember the closer relation between Huey and Ray. They wanted a song for the movie and Huey declined. Six months after "Drug" hit the airwaves, Parker oddly had a very similar song in melody and other ways. Now, why Ray copied Huey's song is unknown. But Huey's statement was clear, "The offensive part was not so much that Ray Parker Jr. had ripped this song off, it was kind of symbolic of an industry that wants something -- they wanted our wave, and they wanted to buy it. ... [I]t's not for sale. ... In the end, I suppose they were right. I suppose it was for sale, because, basically, they bought it".

It's less likely that Huey ripped off M. A song or idea can be in your head and you not know where it comes from. A perfect example of Robert Palmer and Rod Stewart with "Some Guys Have All The Luck." Robert's came out in 1982, and was not that well known. Rod was working on a song in the studio and someone from his camp heard the song on the radio. (The song was played a bit more as Palmer's pop success was becoming more known.) Rod's people called and said "Some guy has our song!" The point was made that it wasn't a copy, but rather just something that you MIGHT have heard in the background or something, and it gets embedded in your subconscious. Either person was trying to copy the other. The songs are exactly the same, but have similarities beyond the title. To my knowledge, there was never a lawsuit against either by either.

Having said all that, I don't think Huey purposely bit into M's song. But was it in his subconscious somewhere? Perhaps. Did Ray purposely bite into Huey's song? Oh hell yes!
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Reply #26 posted 06/24/09 9:04am

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SCNDLS said:

TonyVanDam said:



Exactly! nod Only the very knowledgeable fans of 1980's music were fully aware of this. M composes those bass riffs and was never name-check for it by Huey or Ray.

As similar as the songs obviously are, is this enough to make a legal claim against Huey an' nem? hmmm


Even today, I'm very surprise that M never made his case during the 80's. He could've convince Huey to settle with him out of court (like Huey giving M co-writing credit for I Want A New Drug for example).
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Reply #27 posted 06/24/09 9:08am

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ernestsewell said:

TonyVanDam said:

In fairness, both Huey & Ray were more guilty for beat-biting M


Very similar. But let's remember the closer relation between Huey and Ray. They wanted a song for the movie and Huey declined. Six months after "Drug" hit the airwaves, Parker oddly had a very similar song in melody and other ways. Now, why Ray copied Huey's song is unknown. But Huey's statement was clear, "The offensive part was not so much that Ray Parker Jr. had ripped this song off, it was kind of symbolic of an industry that wants something -- they wanted our wave, and they wanted to buy it. ... [I]t's not for sale. ... In the end, I suppose they were right. I suppose it was for sale, because, basically, they bought it".

It's less likely that Huey ripped off M. A song or idea can be in your head and you not know where it comes from. A perfect example of Robert Palmer and Rod Stewart with "Some Guys Have All The Luck." Robert's came out in 1982, and was not that well known. Rod was working on a song in the studio and someone from his camp heard the song on the radio. (The song was played a bit more as Palmer's pop success was becoming more known.) Rod's people called and said "Some guy has our song!" The point was made that it wasn't a copy, but rather just something that you MIGHT have heard in the background or something, and it gets embedded in your subconscious. Either person was trying to copy the other. The songs are exactly the same, but have similarities beyond the title. To my knowledge, there was never a lawsuit against either by either.

Having said all that, I don't think Huey purposely bit into M's song. But was it in his subconscious somewhere? Perhaps. Did Ray purposely bite into Huey's song? Oh hell yes!


OFF-TOPIC: We used to have a thread about this issue concerning songs/tracks that sound too much alike by different recording artists. One of these days, this subject will definitely come up again.
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Reply #28 posted 06/25/09 2:41pm

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I just mentioned a little while back how much I loved "Heart and Soul" and "Do You Believe in Love." music

Gotta love Huey Lewis & The News! nod
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Reply #29 posted 06/25/09 3:48pm

profratigan

Saw him last week here in VA. He looks and sounds great and they always put on a good show.
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