Really interesting interview with Terence here, but at one point he says "I don't think Prince is bi-sexual, but I think that's essentially what he is". Don't know exactly what he means there, but it's an interesting interview anyway. Enjoy.

Interesting interview indeed. Thanks.

Prince: "One time, I poured chocolate sauce all over Sheila E ... or was that Morris (oheee)"

LittleBLUECorvette said:

I remembered that! I think it was either on MadTV or In Living Color.

Timmy84 said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Thanks!

I have no idea what he's trying to say.


All kinds of folk think Prince has at the very least fooled around with other men, if he isn't straight up bisexual -which plenty of people believe to be possible also -so whatever came out of TTD's mouth isn't exactly a lone idea.

excellent points

prince goes around to this day describing himself as a symbol of both mmale and female.

Vendetta1 said:

Right, lol.

midnightmover said:

Tisha Campbell from Martin is such a pretty girl! The dreads are on point...

Vendetta1 said:

That he does. And he did say on Oprah he believed there was a female presence or something in him.

IMO all evidence points to our Princey maybe having some trans tendencies, but only he knows for sure, so

I used to think Terence was so handsome and wanted to be like him. What was i thinking?

I love Terence aka Sanada if one wouldn't know him well the very same thing could be a theory regarding his sexuality.... as talented as he is... something in me thought there was always a underlining arrogance/silent competition toward Prince.
this interview he's still putting a stamp on Prince stating what he thinks is factual.


I imagine in the end there's more of a equal respect for maintaining their own paths in this brutal industry.
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I don't think he is, he mentions that Prince has guts, and maybe its a veiled reference, but he was (Arsenio mostly) was that in the mid 80s, a lot of black males had to portray this flamboyant, feminine, non threatening male pose (Eg makeup and crazy outfits) to be a success or the non threatening Bill Cosby type pose (Eg Lionel Ritchie), where as rebellious and hypermasculine males like Teddy Pendergrass did not have the same level of success in white circles as they did in black (Rick James is another example, even if he was more glam). And TTD or Sananda Maitreya(!!!!!) says he thought it was refreshing that Seal was the first black masculine guy to have a big success (And British too mind you). I think the interview is about 1993 as it was when the song Delicate came out and was a bit of a hit. Part of the reason too is that Prince and Michael are rather slight and non masculine figures, neither have much muscle development or really ooze the Pendergrass, Gaye masculinity.
I actually think TTD looks more gay than Michael and Prince ever did, that jewel thing he is wearing and the feminine looking dreadlocks, and hes been using skin lightener there too by the looks of things.

I used to find him very sexy back in the day, but if he's bi-sexual then it shouldn't be a surprise to many.

Huggiebear said:

That's what I took from Sananda's/TTD's comments as well that Prince had guts to be who he was. And yes the '80s was the popular decade for the androgynous and non-threatening black men in the music business. And yes the interview was '93 because TTD was promoting Symphony or Damn. I do think TTD is more flamboyant than Prince and Michael tho, lol.

Timmy84 said:

I think it was popular for androgynous men period...

coolcat said:

True too. I forget that George Michael, Boy George, Pete Burns and Marilyn (among others) were out too.

coolcat said:

Timmy84 said:

I love 80s music...

I do think that the sexual openness greatly contributed to making cool music...

coolcat said:

It sure did.

meow85 said:

TTD was talking about the apparent need for black male artists to adopt images that appear as non-threatening as possible for mass (white) acceptance.

It's funny that this period preceded the hyper-macho gangsta rap period. I saw the interview when it originally aired, and have thought about Terence's point often since.

ThreadBare said:

I found it hard to understand the point he was trying to make. Thanks for the translation.

It is an interesting point, for sure. But, like has been said above, it wasn't just black artists using androgyny. But when compared to the macho gangsta image that was popularized after, it's quite the huge shift.

Can you imagine if Prince had been 10 years younger and tried starting up in 88? Sooner or later, he'd have been sporting baggy-ass jeans.

meow85 said:

I doubt it, he probably would've been more cult-ish then he is now.

meow85 said:

I think the difference between Prince doing androgyny and Boy George and Marilyn doing it was that Prince was overtly dressing like a woman but just as overtly pursuing women as the objects of his sexual lyrics and image. Boy George and Marilyn were gay.

Minus his manic objectification of women, Prince likely would have been relegated to the margins where Sylvester and Jermaine Stewart seemed stuck then (and where Rahsaan Patterson seems presently mired). Prince's machismo, and the Time shtick helped identify Prince as heterosexual (despite the "sissy" teasing Morris & Jerome gave him in Purple Rain. But understand that that teasing was representative of the prevailing attitude among black Americans concerning androgyny).

If anything, the rap scene's hyper-macho glorification and misogyny could be seen as a misguided effort to compensate for the likes of MJ and Prince -- only instead of it still being representative of a mainstream, black heterosexual image, it is an animalistic caricature or stereotype that is dismissed just as sweepingly by the white mainstream as bizarre, foreign or subhuman. It's a far cry from the image of, say, Garth Brooks or Vince Gill (whom I'd posit as being Prince's contemporaries).

It's very similar to the phenomenon of black actors having roles that put them in drag.


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ThreadBare said:

I don't know anything about country music. Are these guys considered sex symbols?

meow85 said:

Oh really.